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Hawaii certifies the birth certificate. Does that settle things?

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In one of the earliest reports, The Arizona Republic said
that the Hawaii Department of Health had given “information” to the
Arizona Secretary of State’s office that “proves Obama’s American
birth.” The Republic did not say what information the
Hawaiian officials gave to the Arizona SOS. They did quote Hawaii
Special Assistant Attorney General Joshua Wisch as saying that Ken
Bennett, the Arizona SOS, had satisfied him that he, Bennett, needed the information for “normal State business.”


The Associated Press published its report an hour or so later. But the AP stopped short of saying that the information would satisfy Bennett.


This morning, the Arizona Daily Sun said that Bennett canceled a press conference he earlier planned to hold today. But the Sun article has this key fact: Bennett declined to demand a certified copy of the birth certificate. All that Bennett seems to have is a certification that such a document exists.


Nick Purpura, a New Jersey Tea Party activist, is pressing his own
Obama eligibility challenge in a State appellate court. He told CNAV that:


If they don’t get a certified copy, then anything that Hawaii gives them is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine!


In response to the Sun article, Purpura reiterated that the “certification of a document” does not satisfy him. He accused Bennett of cowardice, for not asking for the certified copy, and pointed out:


  1. All that anyone has, is a PDF file that purports to be an image of a paper document. Not one person has shown that the PDF file truly is such an image.
  2. That file has many mistakes in spelling, anachronistic terms, and other features that suggest that it is not a valid image.

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/23 17:23:47
    No. Hawaii did not furnish a certified copy. Without that, they could say any...
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +59
    Why Arizona SOS Ken Bennett did not ask for a certified copy of the Obama birth certificate, I don't know. But without that certified copy, the Hawaiian officials can say anything they d__n well please, and nobody is any the wiser. They've already stalled on this thing for weeks. I can tell you exactly why they mumbled a reply this time: because Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County sent one of his deputies to Hawaii, and they had to say something to try to make the deputy go home.

    And even so, that does not change Obama's father being a British colonial subject.

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  • ronbo51 2012/06/22 12:40:45
    No. Hawaii did not furnish a certified copy. Without that, they could say any...
    ronbo51
  • Beccy 2012/06/21 18:03:59
    No. Hawaii did not furnish a certified copy. Without that, they could say any...
    Beccy
    +1
    This reminds me of a game show were people just to guess who the real person was. Will the real Obama please stand up?
  • Temlako... Beccy 2012/06/22 00:11:36
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +1
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    To you right now....
    To Tell The Truth, Truth, Truth, Truth!

    You said you went home early last night.
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    And that's why you took the phone off the hook.
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    It's a lie, lie!
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    To teach you how....
    To Tell The Truth, Truth, Truth, Truth!
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  • Beccy Temlako... 2012/06/22 02:38:10
    Beccy
    +1
    it was a good show
  • No-to-neocons 2012/05/27 19:19:14 (edited)
  • shadow76 2012/05/27 10:13:21
    No. Hawaii did not furnish a certified copy. Without that, they could say any...
    shadow76
    +1
    Hawaii has been bought and paid for by Owebummer since before he was elected.
  • firelooker 2012/05/26 18:26:05
    It doesn't matter. Obama's father was a British colonial subject. He wouldn'b...
    firelooker
    +1
    Obama has proven he is unqualified to be president. Reagan inherited a far worse economy when he came in and turned it around in short order. Obama has failed because he doesn't believe in this country and wants to see it fail.
  • my2cents firelooker 2012/05/27 01:40:45
    my2cents
    +2
    The U.S. was on the verge of a financial meltdown and second Great Depression when Reagan came into office?

    Did Reagan have to pass TARP too?
  • firelooker my2cents 2012/05/27 01:50:50
    firelooker
    +1
    Read your history, Jimmy Carter had done almost everything Obama has done and we were in a depression, gas was rationed and people were losing their jobs right and left. I was self employed as a remodeling contractor and lost all my pending accounts because my customers had lost their jobs or the bank wouldn't lend the money because the economy was so lousy.
  • my2cents firelooker 2012/05/29 03:06:47
    my2cents
    +1
    I suggest you read your history, not reinvent it.

    The short-lived recession of the late 1970s was nowhere near the 2008 meltdown of the entire U.S. financial sector and the resulting near world-wide depression.

    But of course, you're probably on Social Security now so it didn't impact you like it did millions of other workers and home owners. Thank your lucky stars for your big government socialist retirement benefits!
  • Old Sol... my2cents 2012/06/26 14:48:49
    Old Soldier
    +1
    big government socialist retirement benefits?

    I am receiving my social security and it is a big 886 dollars a month. I would be better working at minimum wage. By the time you get there, if you ever do with the government pushing retirement age higher and highter, you will receive even less. But the jokes on you!

    The social security is not really a tax, unless you count it as a tax on your life. The social security is taken out after your income taxes, so it certianily is not an income tax. The only thing left to attach it to is your life. In other words, the government is taxing you for the very air you breath.
  • my2cents Old Sol... 2012/06/27 07:01:05
    my2cents
    +1
    Yep, that's what social security is. It is government run old age insurance, you pay your premiums all your working life, and when you retire, you start drawing out. Like all insurance programs, some people will draw on their insurance more than others. SS isn't a tax, it's an insurance premium.
  • Old Sol... my2cents 2012/06/27 13:36:09
    Old Soldier
    +1
    "it's an insurance premium."
    ON YOUR LIFE.

    However, they are wanting you to die before you reach retirement age. That is why they keep raising the retirement age, that way, the government pays your family 218 dollars burial benefits, and they keep the rest. BTY, I guess you know that businesses also pay the same amount as you do on your social security. Talk about schemes, it don't get any better than this.
  • No-to-n... firelooker 2012/05/29 01:14:11
  • DJL 2012/05/26 01:46:26
    It doesn't matter. Obama's father was a British colonial subject. He wouldn'b...
    DJL
    +2
    If there is a certified copy why hasn't Hawaii just released it. Their law says they can.
  • my2cents DJL 2012/05/27 01:41:57
    my2cents
    What would a certification stamp prove that the Registrar of the State of Hawaii hasn't already?

    Just wondering.
  • DJL my2cents 2012/05/27 03:02:01
    DJL
    +2
    A certified copy would come from the microfiche that would be in the archives if Obama was born in Hawaii. When Obama went on tv and showed what was supposed to be his certificate of live birth he let a reporter take a photo of the document. If you compare the picture she took to the document on the web-site there are markings on the web-site document that are not on the photo. The only way this could happen is if the web-ste document is a computer generated forgery. This is what Obama neds to have Hawaii provide. It is from the same week Obama was born and would be next to Obama's on the microfiche.


    Hawaii birth certificate
  • my2cents DJL 2012/05/27 03:17:28 (edited)
    my2cents
    What is your source that discusses these "markings" that you're speaking of?

    In other words, who claims there are markings on one document that don't appear on another?

    I don't remember Obama going on TV to "show" his certificate of live birth. He released that in June of 2008 and the first time I saw it was on the internet. So you're saying Obama showed the Cert of Live Birth to a reporter, who took a picture of it and printed it, and that picture is different from the one posted on the internet?
  • DJL my2cents 2012/05/27 04:09:50
  • my2cents DJL 2012/05/27 09:39:02
    my2cents
    Are you freaking kidding me?

    Those two tiny dark spots on the edge of the paper?

    I thought you were going to show me something on the birth certificate information itself that was changed or altered, not a paper flaw!

    You have absolutely no way of proving that the "unmasked" image is authentic, that those smudges weren't put there intentionally by people wanting to discredit the birth certificate.

    I think the unmasked image was intentionally manipulated and is a fraud.

    P.S. Birtherreport.com? The Tea Party Power Hour? Biased much?
  • Temlako... DJL 2012/05/27 18:29:15
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    Know what else? The BHO certificate has a serial number ahead of this one. And yet the Nordyke Twins are supposed to have been born earlier.
  • No-to-n... DJL 2012/05/30 01:04:20
    No-to-neocons
    The Republican party of Hawaii seen the original birth certificate and CONFIRMED he was born in Hawaii. Are you saying the Republican Party of Hawaii are LIARS and are covering up for Obama? REALLY?
  • Temlako... No-to-n... 2012/05/30 01:20:36
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    Yes.
  • No-to-n... Temlako... 2012/05/30 01:26:04
    No-to-neocons
    You are a dumbass.
  • ScottyG - Faqueue 2012/05/25 01:28:23
    It doesn't matter. Obama's father was a British colonial subject. He wouldn'b...
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +3
    It really doesn't matter, but to find that there was never an original would be great. I keep sayin', you can't produce what never existed.
  • Kaleoku... ScottyG... 2012/05/25 21:04:27
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    Sorry, Grasshoppa, but the State of Hawaii already confirmed Obama is a Natural Born Citizen (see http://www.usatoday.com/news/... ), and confirmed that both the short and long form certificates are authentic (see http://hawaii.gov/health/vita... ) . The State has also posted answers to FAQs regarding his certificate at http://hawaii.gov/health/vita... .

    Even Fox News reports expert opinion that the BC is authentic. See: http://www.foxnews.com/politi... ).

    NOTE: Fox's expert subsequently took issue with Fox's "authentic" claim, and posted “In my humble opinion, what I see about how the PDF is built does not prove any falsification. If there was tampering, we must look elsewhere and not how the PDF was created.” (http://www.wnd.com/2011/06/3... ) Tremblay's double negative ("does not prove any falsification") may be reasonably interpreted as an endorsement. Coupled with a similar opinion from The National Review (http://www.nationalreview.co... which also found no evidence of falsification, the consensus from leading conservative media is irrefutable.


    Birther inability to recognize this authenticity suggests they are schizophrenic. Their belief in a grand conspiracy to foist an ineligible Obama upon the nation suggests they are paranoid. Such paranoid schizophrenia is ty...

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    Sorry, Grasshoppa, but the State of Hawaii already confirmed Obama is a Natural Born Citizen (see http://www.usatoday.com/news/... ), and confirmed that both the short and long form certificates are authentic (see http://hawaii.gov/health/vita... ) . The State has also posted answers to FAQs regarding his certificate at http://hawaii.gov/health/vita... .

    Even Fox News reports expert opinion that the BC is authentic. See: http://www.foxnews.com/politi... ).

    NOTE: Fox's expert subsequently took issue with Fox's "authentic" claim, and posted “In my humble opinion, what I see about how the PDF is built does not prove any falsification. If there was tampering, we must look elsewhere and not how the PDF was created.” (http://www.wnd.com/2011/06/3... ) Tremblay's double negative ("does not prove any falsification") may be reasonably interpreted as an endorsement. Coupled with a similar opinion from The National Review (http://www.nationalreview.co... which also found no evidence of falsification, the consensus from leading conservative media is irrefutable.


    Birther inability to recognize this authenticity suggests they are schizophrenic. Their belief in a grand conspiracy to foist an ineligible Obama upon the nation suggests they are paranoid. Such paranoid schizophrenia is typical among the deluded denizens of Right-Wing Fantasyland (see http://kaleokualoha2878577.ne... ).

    Birthers are on the lunatic fringe, along with Truthers, Holocaust & AGW Deniers, and the Flat Earth Society.

    "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei (1564 - 1642)
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  • ScottyG... Kaleoku... 2012/05/25 22:27:03
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +3
    Blah, blah, blah. I can't bother to read your crap. It's all been said before and STILL we have no hard copy of the BC.
  • Kaleoku... ScottyG... 2012/05/26 02:39:45
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    And you won't, because it is none of your business. The short form is legally sufficient.

    Capische?
  • ScottyG... Kaleoku... 2012/05/26 14:00:35
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    I can get my full BC complete with the footprint in 1 day. Why can't the so called leader of the free world?
  • Kaleoku... ScottyG... 2012/05/26 17:27:42 (edited)
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    Hawaii doesn't issue them. See FAQs at http://hawaii.gov/health/vita...

    The President is under no obligation to satisfy idle curiosity, because the certificate supplied years ago was legally sufficient. The "short form" certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records" (see http://www.state.gov/document... )
  • ScottyG... Kaleoku... 2012/05/27 22:01:47
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    Even his own book admits he's a Kenyan

    book admits kenyan
  • Kaleoku... ScottyG... 2012/05/27 22:29:37
    Kaleokualoha
    Gosh! You probably didn't know this:

    [QUOTE]
    Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

    Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:

    "You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
    [END QUOTE http://politicalwire.com/arch... ]
  • ScottyG... Kaleoku... 2012/05/28 15:14:21
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    Yep. Just say it's an error. That's an easy way to dismiss it. We have more proof he is Kenyan than born in Hawaii. Even if he was born in Hawaii, him father was not an American citizen.
  • Kaleoku... ScottyG... 2012/05/28 18:36:12
    Kaleokualoha
    Sorry, Grasshoppa, but parentage and purported "dual citizenship" are irrelevant: "Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government" (i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad).” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Ninth Edition ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... )

    This is perfectly reflected in a 2011 Congressional Research Service report:

    "The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen."
    - http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mi...

    Those who try to redefine "natural born citizen" for their own agenda are no better than those who try to redefine "torture" (e.g., waterboarding) for their own agenda.

    Such rhetorical decepti...




    &

    Sorry, Grasshoppa, but parentage and purported "dual citizenship" are irrelevant: "Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government" (i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad).” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Ninth Edition ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... )

    This is perfectly reflected in a 2011 Congressional Research Service report:

    "The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen."
    - http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mi...

    Those who try to redefine "natural born citizen" for their own agenda are no better than those who try to redefine "torture" (e.g., waterboarding) for their own agenda.

    Such rhetorical deception was highlighted in the story of Alice's adventures in "Through The Looking-Glass,"

    "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone. "It means just what I choose it to mean - neither more or less."
    "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
    "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."
    - Lewis Carroll, English author & recreational mathematician (1832 - 1898)

    Fortunately, the Rule of Law supersedes the Rule of Man in civilized societies.
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  • ScottyG... Kaleoku... 2012/05/28 20:16:03
  • Kaleoku... ScottyG... 2012/05/29 02:02:42
    Kaleokualoha
    You have been misled. FYI:

    THE INDONESIA CITIZENSHIP MYTH

    "Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship." (http://travel.state.gov/law/...

    President Obama spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia when his mother married an Indonesian student who had come to Hawaii to study. There's no evidence President Obama was ever formally adopted by his stepfather. Indonesia didn't allow children of his age to be adopted. Indonesia also didn't allow adoption if it would create a dual-citizenship. Children can't relinquish their US citizenship without proving to a US consulate/embassy that they understand the consequences of their decision, something no 6-year-old can do. Since there was no legal way for Obama to be adopted in Indonesia, he was and still is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

    There is no evidence that Obama was legally adopted by his stepfat...









    You have been misled. FYI:

    THE INDONESIA CITIZENSHIP MYTH

    "Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship." (http://travel.state.gov/law/...

    President Obama spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia when his mother married an Indonesian student who had come to Hawaii to study. There's no evidence President Obama was ever formally adopted by his stepfather. Indonesia didn't allow children of his age to be adopted. Indonesia also didn't allow adoption if it would create a dual-citizenship. Children can't relinquish their US citizenship without proving to a US consulate/embassy that they understand the consequences of their decision, something no 6-year-old can do. Since there was no legal way for Obama to be adopted in Indonesia, he was and still is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

    There is no evidence that Obama was legally adopted by his stepfather in Indonesia. Law No. 62 of 1958, Law on the Citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia describes the laws for adopting children but none of them applied to Obama. To be eligible for adoption, children had to be under the age of five years old. Obama was 6 when he moved to Indonesia and thus ineligible.

    Claim: Foreign students couldn’t attend schools in Indonesia in the 1960s.
    Sure they could, and it happened quite often. No one has been able to find any laws banning non-citizens from Indonesian public schools in that era. There have, however, been stories from other Americans and Europeans who attended Indonesian public schools at that time.
    In 1965-1971, when Obama was living in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather, Chinese schools were banned by the New Order regime and Chinese living in Indonesia (citizens and non-citizens) had to attend Indonesian schools. That's strong evidence that foreigners could attend Indonesia schools.
    For an indepth discussion of the legal aspects of Indonesian adoption, see The Indonesian Citizenship Myth Part I and Part II on Badfiction, and Did Obama Become an Indonesian Citizen when His Mother, Ann Durham, Married Lolo Soetoro, and Moved to Indonesia? on What's Your Evidence?

    FROM: http://www.thefogbow.com/birt...

    "The way to combat noxious ideas is with other ideas. The way to combat falsehoods is with truth."
    - William O. Douglas
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  • ScottyG... Kaleoku... 2012/05/29 02:20:57
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    Any lie you want to believe is OK to believe? He's a liar!

    The Mystery Of Barack Obama Continues

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    By Steve Baldwin for the Western Center for Journalism
    Most Americans don’t realize we have elected a president whom we know very little about.

    Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans.
    A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?
    The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental Colle...










































    Any lie you want to believe is OK to believe? He's a liar!

    The Mystery Of Barack Obama Continues

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    By Steve Baldwin for the Western Center for Journalism
    Most Americans don’t realize we have elected a president whom we know very little about.

    Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans.
    A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?
    The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.
    What is he hiding? Well, for starters, some of these records will shed light on his citizenship and birth.
    For example, Obama’s application to Punahou School – now mysteriously missing – would likely contain a birth certificate. And, according to attorney Gary Kreep, “his Occidental College records are important as they may show he attended there as a foreign exchange student.” Indeed, Obama used his Indonesian name “Barry Soetoro” while attending Occidental. Kreep has filed lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility to be president and as part of his lawsuit he requested Obama’s records from Occidental. However, Obama’s lawyers quickly moved to stop Occidental from honoring this request.
    Furthermore, now that at least three document authentication experts have declared the scanned “Certificate of Live Birth” Obama’s campaign team gave to a pro-Obama website to be an obvious phony; we know that he is hiding something here as well.
    Over 49 separate law suits have been filed on the eligibility/birth certificate issue alone, with several of the suits making it all the way the United States Supreme Court, only to be denied a full hearing.

    Pictured: Saudi Prince Al-Walid bin Talah
    What’s more, there are questions about how he paid for his Harvard Law School education since, despite a claim by Michele Obama, no one has produced any evidence that he received student loans. The Obamas will not release any student loan details despite repeated requests from the Chicago Tribune. However, it appears that his Harvard education may have been paid for by a foreign source. Khalid Al-Mansour, an advisor to Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talah, told Manhattan Borough president, Percy Sutton, that he was raising money for Obama’s Harvard tuition. Incidentally, Prince Tala is the largest donor to CAIR, a Muslim group declared by the U.S. Government in 2007 as an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist financing trial. At least three of CAIR’s leaders have been indicted for terrorist activities. Al-Mansour’s admission opens up speculation as to whether Muslim interests have assisted Obama’s career in the hope he would eventually be in a position someday to promote their interests.
    More recently, it was discovered that Obama’s Selective Service card may have been doctored. Federal law requires all American males to register for the Selective Service (the draft) in case a major war broke out. Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older. Indeed, the forgers forgot to alter the “Document Location Number” which shows that it is clearly a 2008 form. This is fraud and it’s a felony and Schlussel’s allegations are backed up by Stephen Coffman, a former high-ranking Federal agent. Moreover, the document shows a September 4th, 1980 date and the location of the transaction as Hawaii, but at that time Obama was thousands of miles away attending Occidental College in Los Angeles.
    The real reason why Obama probably did not submit this form as a teenager is that he assumed his Kenyan or Indonesian citizenship exempted him from this requirement. But clearly, as he grew older and entered politics, he saw that any documents revealing a foreign birth – Selective Service registration, birth certificate, school applications, etc – would be problematic if he ran for the presidency. Thus, it is not a coincidence that every document which contains information about his birth or citizenship is either missing, sealed, or has been altered.
    Indeed, everywhere one looks into Obama’s background, we find sealed records, scrubbed websites, altered documents, deception and unanswered questions. Can anyone imagine for a second if John McCain or George Bush had blocked access to his school, medical, and birth records? It would have been headlines in their case, but as with everything else concerning Obama, the media has given him a pass on this.
    Of all these marvels, the latest mystery and probably most perplexing is that of Obama’s social security number. It appears that Obama has multiple identities in term of possessing numerous social security numbers. Orly Taitz, an attorney who has filed numerous suits against Obama regarding his eligibility to serve as president, appears to have been the first to discover this. In her suit, representing a number of military officers who are refusing to serve under an ineligible commander in chief, she hired private investigator Neil Sankey to conduct research on Obama’s prior addresses and Social Society numbers. Using Intelius, Lexis Nexis, Choice Point and other public records, Sankey found around 25 Social Security numbers connected with Obama’s name.
    However, it may not be as many as 25, since Sankey also searched using closely related names such as: “Barak Obama,” “Batock Obama,” “Barok Obama,” and “Barrack Obama.” There may very well be some Kenyans living in America with the same last name and a similar first name. In any case, I will exclude these records for the purpose of this research and focus only on names spelled exactly like his name. Moreover, we can verify many of the Social Security numbers as valid since they’re connected to addresses at which we know Obama resided. Needless to say, there are also a slew of address and social security numbers connected to addresses in states that Obama has no known connection to.
    In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042 and one starting 364.
    In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999.
    There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.

    713 Hart Senate Office Building
    In Massachusetts – where Obama attended Harvard Law School – we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008.
    This mystery grows even stranger as other addresses and Social Security numbers for Barack Obama appear in a dozen other states not known to be connected to him. Again, I am excluding those records names not spelled exactly like his name.
    Tennessee, one address with a Social Security number beginning with 427
    Colorado, one address, with a Social Security number beginning with 456.
    Utah, two addresses, with two Social Security numbers beginning with 901 and 799.
    Missouri has one address and one Social Security number beginning with 999.
    Florida has two addresses listed for his him, three if you count one listed as “Barry Obama.” One is connected to a Social Security number beginning with 762.
    In Georgia there are three addresses listed for him, all with different Social Security numbers: 579, 420, and 423.
    In Texas there are four different addresses listed for him, one is connected to Social Security number 675.
    There are two addresses listed for Barack Obama in Oregon and one address listed for him in the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
    All told, there are 49 addresses and 16 different Social Security numbers listed for a person whose name is spelled “Barack Obama.” In some cases, the middle initial “H” is listed. If you were to expand the search to include closely related names such as: “Barac,” “Barak,” and “Barrack” Obama, you would find more than a dozen additional addresses and Social Security numbers.
    Finally, the one Social Security number Obama most frequently used, the one beginning with 042, is a number issued in Connecticut sometime during 1976-1977, yet there is no record of Obama ever living or working in Connecticut. Indeed, during this time period Obama would have been 15-16 years old and living in Hawaii at the time.

    Ann, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham
    Nevertheless, all this mystery surrounding Obama appears to be a generational thing. Researchers have discovered nearly a dozen aliases, at least two different Social Security numbers, and upwards of over 99 separate addresses for Ann Dunham, his mother. We do know she worked for the ultra liberal Ford Foundation but we also know she may have earned some income from pornographic poses, as evidenced by photos recently discovered by some researchers—how embarrassing. The only thing researchers are able to find out about Obama’s mother is the fact she made porn. I’m sure that’s a first for presidential mothers.
    But we also know that Obama’s mother and grandparents associated with Communist Party leaders such as Frank Marshall Davis, a man who, according to Obama’s book, Dreams from my Father, was his main mentor during much of his Hawaiian boyhood (although Obama tried to disguise his identity in his book). During the Cold War, Davis was named by congressional investigators as a key member of a secretive pro-Soviet networked that existed in Hawaii at that time.

    Communist Party leader, Frank Marshall Davis
    The lack of documents regarding Obama also extends to his mother and to his grandparents. Indeed, researchers have been unable to find marriage licenses for his mother’s two marriages, assuming she was ever legally married. Ditto goes for the marriage license for Ann’s parents. They cannot find birth certificates for her, her parents, or for even for her grandparents. Even more so, despite Obama’s boast of his grandfather’s military service, there’s no record of that either. For reasons no one knows, much of Obama’s life, his mother’s life and his grandparent’s life has been erased from the records as if they never existed.
    But why would someone obtain so many Social Security numbers? According to investigators, those who create additional Social Society numbers are typically engaged in criminal activities such as Social Security fraud, tax fraud, real estate fraud, campaign

    Barrack Obama and his Grandmother, Madelyn Dunham.
    “Madeline Dunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.
    contributions fraud, voter fraud and so on. While the private investigator who compiled this list says multiple social security numbers does not automatically prove there’s criminal activity involved, he states that “having said that, I have personally experienced many, many cases where such information has led to subsequent exposure of fraud, deception, money laundering and other crimes.“What is interesting to note is that Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.
    It is clear that more research needs to be done on this issue. The Western Center for Journalism
    ( http://www.westernjournalism.... is inviting readers to join the search for the truth. If you have any information about any of the addresses listed, they would love to hear from you. To find a complete list of all the addresses and Social Security numbers listed in the public record for Obama and family, please go to the Western Center for Journalism.
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  • Kaleoku... ScottyG... 2012/05/29 03:03:18
    Kaleokualoha
    "A gentleman allows a lady to maintain her fantasies" - Jack Sparrow
  • ScottyG... Kaleoku... 2012/05/29 15:12:39
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    So you're a lady with fantasies of Obie? That's messed up. Even the Obama girl don't want him now.
  • DJL Kaleoku... 2012/05/27 04:14:44
    DJL
    +2
    You are clueless if you think Hawaii can confirm Obama is a natural born citizen. Only a person born on US soil to two US citizens is a natural born citizen. Hawaii hasn't even confirmed Obama was born there but that doesn't matter. Obama cannot be eligible no matter where he was born.
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