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Hawaii birth certificate: reliable? Or not?

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/04/30 22:13:14
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Last week, Steven Carter, of Philadelphia, PA, solved
a mystery that had troubled him since he was a boy. In fact, he is not
Steve Carter, but Marx Panama Barns. In 1977, his mother ran away from her husband and took him with her.
Eventually she traveled to Hawaii. The details are still sketchy, but
somehow someone in authority committed Barnes/Carter’s mother for
psychiatric treatment and sent the infant Barnes/Carter to an orphanage.
The mother later left the hospital, and no one has seen her since.


What has this to do with Obama eligibility? Just this: no one issued a
birth certificate for him until a year after his supposed birthday.
That birth certificate came from Hawaii. It listed Barnes/Carter as
“half native Hawaiian.” But the adult now calling himself Steve Carter has no discernible “native Hawaiian” features.


More to the point: Marx Panama Barnes was not born in Hawaii. He was born in California.


CBS-TV ran a human-interest special on Barnes/Carter. They focused
only on his solving his own child-snatching. But they missed a vital
point: how did he get a Hawaii birth certificate if he was not born in Hawaii?


Nor is this the first time that Hawaii has given a birth certificate
to someone not born on those islands. Mike Zullo is the head of the Cold
Case Posse of Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona. He and
his team have looked into the Obama eligibility question almost since
the White House released what they said was Obama’s birth certificate.
Zullo did not concentrate only on the flaws in the Obama birth
certificate document. He asked himself whether the Hawaii Department of
Health might give someone a birth certificate even if that someone was
not born in Hawaii.


Zullo told interviewer Carl Gallups
that the Hawaii Department of Health has done just that several times.
He also gave the lie to another anti-Obama eligibility canard. Birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers at the time relied only on family telephone calls. And no one ever checked those.


Hawaii is notorious for having satellite birth registry
offices. [There, people] can literally go in and register another
[person] born in a foreign country—a foreign birth—and register that
birth in Hawaii and get a Certificate of Live Birth.


That last is the official title of the Obama birth certificate
document. Zullo further told Gallups that his team knew of persons born
in California, and adopted in Hawaii, who had Hawaii Certificates of Live Birth. Furthermore, these certificates were in the same registry as persons truly born in Hawaii.


Recall that Marx Panama Barnes/Steve Carter was also born in California and adopted in Hawaii.

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/04/30 22:15:57
    Unreliable. Anyone can get a Hawaii birth certificate whether born in Hawaii ...
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +16
    Look at this case of Steve Carter, or should I say Marx Panama Barnes. Snatched from his home in California, he winds up in a Hawaiian orphanage, with a new name, and even a new racial heritage: "half native Hawaiian." What's up with *that*?

    CBS This Morning profiled his case, and totally missed the Obama eligibility angle.

    And his is not an isolated incident. This is going on right now. This goes beyond Sun Yat-sen getting a Hawaiian territorial birth certificate. This is the State of Hawaii and its totally unreliable Vital Stats service.

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  • Herb 2012/05/02 21:44:16
    Undecided
    Herb
    +1
    Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration?

    As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration:

    Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth, except that an application will not be accepted for a deceased person.
    Registration of a late certificate of death, marriage, or divorce may be requested by the person in charge of the disposition of the body, marriage officiant or performer, or court clerk, respectively.
    How to Apply for Late Registration

    For information and assistance on applying for late registration of birth, death, marriage, or divorce:

    Send a written letter of inquiry to:


    State Department of Health
    Office of Health Status Monitoring
    Registration/Vital Statistics Section
    P.O. Box 3378
    Honolulu, HI 96801
    - or -

    For information regarding late registrations, please call (808) 586-4540 during regular business hours (7:45 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. HST). This number should be called only to obtain information concerning the late registrations of births, deaths or ...

    Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration?

    As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration:

    Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth, except that an application will not be accepted for a deceased person.
    Registration of a late certificate of death, marriage, or divorce may be requested by the person in charge of the disposition of the body, marriage officiant or performer, or court clerk, respectively.
    How to Apply for Late Registration

    For information and assistance on applying for late registration of birth, death, marriage, or divorce:

    Send a written letter of inquiry to:


    State Department of Health
    Office of Health Status Monitoring
    Registration/Vital Statistics Section
    P.O. Box 3378
    Honolulu, HI 96801
    - or -

    For information regarding late registrations, please call (808) 586-4540 during regular business hours (7:45 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. HST). This number should be called only to obtain information concerning the late registrations of births, deaths or marriages.

    Counter service is available Monday - Friday (excluding holidays), from 7:45 a.m. - 2:30 p.m. Appointments are preferred.
    (more)
  • marylou5 Herb 2012/05/04 21:19:29
    marylou5
    Suggests that anybody, including family or non family, can apply for and get "late" non documented BCs, documented ...... by someone saying, just saying... it is so:-)
  • Barbara Hasler 2012/05/02 21:29:18
    Unreliable. Anyone can get a Hawaii birth certificate whether born in Hawaii ...
    Barbara Hasler
    +5
    I will stand by what Trump found. The Hawaiian birth certificate was a fraud. The name of the hospital at the time of his birth is incorrect.
  • Annette 2012/05/02 21:18:38
    Unreliable. Anyone can get a Hawaii birth certificate whether born in Hawaii ...
    Annette
    +5
    That piece of forgery is about as reliable as a $3 bill.
  • johnnyg 2012/05/02 17:17:19
    Undecided
    johnnyg
    +4
    Bammy is government. Government produces birth documents. Bammy has birth certificate from any state he wishes. (I clicked Unreliable)
  • ally 2012/05/02 16:32:42
    Reliable. If Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate, that's all you need to know.
    ally
    +3
    If you birthers had used all this energy to find a viable candidate to run against Obama, instead of the nut cases you did scrounge up, you may have had a chance in November. Thank you, for re-electing Obama.
  • Guru Ca... ally 2012/05/02 18:22:02
  • ally Guru Ca... 2012/05/02 19:12:17
    ally
    +3
    Great one, Cas!
  • johnnyg ally 2012/05/04 17:15:15
    johnnyg
    Ron Paul is a viable candidate.
  • ally johnnyg 2012/05/04 19:32:41
    ally
    LOL!
  • johnnyg ally 2012/05/04 19:38:54
    johnnyg
    Obama lovers think that is funny. You control freaks think its funny.
  • ally johnnyg 2012/05/04 19:59:12
    ally
    LOL Deux!
  • aneed2know 2012/05/02 06:07:36
    Reliable. If Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate, that's all you need to know.
    aneed2know
    +7
    damn will these people ever get tired of that BS lie?
  • johnnyg aneed2know 2012/05/02 17:19:27
    johnnyg
    +5
    I'm tired of ALL of Obamas lies.
  • Guru Ca... aneed2know 2012/05/02 18:20:07
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    +4
    it's beats thinking!
  • Israel Guru Ca... 2012/05/02 21:59:10
  • Guru Ca... Israel 2012/05/03 16:03:32
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    +1
    I think all the time,why I'm not an extremist,especially,not a Conservative kind like birthers,truthers,etc
  • Israel Guru Ca... 2012/05/03 17:27:23
  • Guru Ca... Israel 2012/05/03 17:31:26
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    +1
    NO
    I can't comply
    and WON'T
  • Israel Guru Ca... 2012/05/03 18:26:25
  • "Shoote... Israel 2012/05/03 19:06:44
    "Shooter" ™
    +4
    BRAVO !!!!!
  • Israel "Shoote... 2012/05/03 21:43:53
  • "Shoote... Israel 2012/05/04 15:47:04
    "Shooter" ™
    +1
    A well deserved BRAVO!!!! :-))
  • Israel "Shoote... 2012/05/04 18:45:20
  • "Shoote... Israel 2012/05/05 00:29:07
    "Shooter" ™
    +1
    You are most welcome amigo!! :-))
  • Centuri... Israel 2012/05/04 03:43:03
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    From what I notice, many liberals are unable to offer same courtesy that they demand from others.

    You are right, people have the right to think as they please. I agree with you that the b.c. he put out there is forged.

    That goes contrary to their agenda so they try to silence us with their remarks such as those you mentioned.
  • aneed2know Guru Ca... 2012/05/03 04:54:58 (edited)
    aneed2know
    +2
    Do me a favor ask that Little bird who commented with the line "Yes, and you stopped that a while back, right."

    What in the hell does she know about USA laws and birth certificates, please?

    Since she has blocked me.
  • Eddie_D... aneed2know 2012/05/03 14:09:02
  • Dave 2012/05/02 06:01:52
    Undecided
    Dave
    +3
    What is it with you people?! This is ridiculous. Sodahead brings this subject up like every week? How many polls do you have to have on this subject? What are you going to post next --- Is Obama a Muslim?

    This is embarrassing.
  • marylou5 Dave 2012/05/04 05:13:22
    marylou5
    +1
    Obama is a Muslim, isn't he?
  • Dave marylou5 2012/05/05 18:08:11
    Dave
    Aaaaah,........, no.
  • Temlako... marylou5 2012/05/06 00:41:35
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    Obama is an "Obamist," building a personality cult based on himself.

    But he is trying to persuade Muslims the world over that he is their Mahdi.
  • beach bum 2012/05/02 05:36:59
    Reliable. If Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate, that's all you need to know.
    beach bum
  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2012/05/02 00:41:08
    Undecided
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    +4
    Lets make a change in Nov with our votes.
  • Jakedog lady_c5... 2012/05/04 02:32:06
    Jakedog
    I agree let's through all the liars and bums out. Lets get this country back to the wholesome' strong and right thinking that made America great.
    It is time to send the Neo-cons and the GOP packing lets take back the Congress and get a Filibuster proof Senate and put America back on top.
  • lady_c5... Jakedog 2012/05/04 17:48:51
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    +1
    Looks like my vote will cancel your vote because I plan on throwing out the socialist democrats.
  • Jakedog lady_c5... 2012/05/05 02:10:10
    Jakedog
    Tell you what if you don't vote I will not either this will save us bothe the hassle of having to put up with e indignity of having to leave the house!
  • lady_c5... Jakedog 2012/05/05 07:04:29
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    I have not missed voting since 1971 (1st year I was eligible) and I don't plan on stopping now.
  • "Shooter" ™ 2012/05/01 22:37:08
    Unreliable. Anyone can get a Hawaii birth certificate whether born in Hawaii ...
    "Shooter" ™
  • Temlako... "Shoote... 2012/05/02 00:38:36
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +5
    I'm not so sure that image you've got is authentic. I have too many questions about it.

    But I have a lot of questions about the PDF image that Obama served up.

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