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Have you heard; GEORGE Zimmerman is back in jail again? Can we trust Zimmerman? Will Will George Zimmerman get out of jail after $135,000 lie? get out of jail after $135,000 lie?

BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/06/04 13:55:42
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It was on the New's in Miami, he was re-arrested, for lying to the Judge about his Financial condition. He was talking to his wife in code and they discovered the lies.
His wife may also be in trouble for lying. They have over 200,000.00 in a fund set up for his defense from the internet. Now that money is going to be held in trust and set aside so they can't get their hands on it, In his position, Lying to the courts, is the worst thing this young man could have done!

George Zimmerman's attorney says he expects to file a motion Monday seeking a new bond hearing for Trayvon Martin's shooter, who surrendered to authorities in central Florida after a judge revoked his bond.

Wearing a button-down checkered shirt, blue jeans and sneakers, a handcuffed Zimmerman was escorted by two deputy sheriffs from a white minivan into theSeminole County jail Sunday afternoon. He did not answer shouted questions from reporters as he was led inside the jail to be booked, photographed and processed.

The former neighborhood watch volunteer is charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting February of Martin, an unarmed black teenager, in a gated community in Sanford, outside Orlando. Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty, claiming he acted in self-defense.

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  • BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/06/04 14:03:06
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    +5
    Bad move Mr. Zimmerman, trying to hide financial assets, playing fast and loose with the Judge and courts, This will certainly hinder any credibility with the Judge, Courts and potential jurors! What was this guy thinking or was he just like the night he Killed Trayvon Martin.

    George Zimmerman in hand cuffs arrested

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  • bob 2012/06/05 11:42:39 (edited)
    Undecided
    bob
    +1
    There is enough of the appearance of impropriety and/or perjury that leads me to think that Zimmerman should be kept in custody until trial.



    Apparently he was told to surrender his passport. Because he had two of them (his original and the replacement he obtained when it was lost but then found again), but he surrendered only one of them. Question: How do you "forget" that you have an extra passport, especially when the Court orders you to surrender it/them? You can say that, in the stress of the situation, you forgot about the duplicate. But I would have a hard time buying that. I know where my passport is and I would certainly remember that I had a duplicate if I had one and was questioned about it by the Court.



    It's been said that he had over three months to flee if that was his intent. Once the story hit the media, Mr. Zimmerman became probably the most recognizable face in the Country. If he had tried to run he almost certainly would have been recognized and apprehended. And I think it's safe to say he knew that. The fact that he didn't try to run is not necessarily evidence of his reliability and credibility. Especially if he was wearing an ankle bracelet. (I presume that he didn't start wearing that until after his first arraignment. There would have been no l...















    There is enough of the appearance of impropriety and/or perjury that leads me to think that Zimmerman should be kept in custody until trial.



    Apparently he was told to surrender his passport. Because he had two of them (his original and the replacement he obtained when it was lost but then found again), but he surrendered only one of them. Question: How do you "forget" that you have an extra passport, especially when the Court orders you to surrender it/them? You can say that, in the stress of the situation, you forgot about the duplicate. But I would have a hard time buying that. I know where my passport is and I would certainly remember that I had a duplicate if I had one and was questioned about it by the Court.



    It's been said that he had over three months to flee if that was his intent. Once the story hit the media, Mr. Zimmerman became probably the most recognizable face in the Country. If he had tried to run he almost certainly would have been recognized and apprehended. And I think it's safe to say he knew that. The fact that he didn't try to run is not necessarily evidence of his reliability and credibility. Especially if he was wearing an ankle bracelet. (I presume that he didn't start wearing that until after his first arraignment. There would have been no legal reason for him to wear one before being indicted, and, until he was finally charged and arrested, he had no reason to flee since he didn't think he was going to be charged.)



    This is the first I've heard of a FB PayPal Acct being set up for Mr. Zimmerman's defense. The proceeds of which are being held to be used only for his defense. I'm sure that's the case now, but was it like that at the time of his first arraignment when Mrs. Zimmerman said they had no money? And the big question is/was who is the Administrator of that Acct? Who decides and controls how those funds are to be distributed and when. Do the Zimmerman's, in fact, have access to the funds or not.



    Common sense tells me that if the Zimmerman's absolutely could not access that money, his lawyer would have made that point at the bail hearing and it should have swayed the Judge's ruling. Of course, for all I know, he did but it wasn't included in the video clip I saw on yesterday's news. (And we all know how much we can and can't rely on network news for the whole story. They're pretty much as reliable as the internet when it comes to getting the whole picture.)



    Common sense also tells me that, of the thousands of dollars that have been and are being donated for his defense, not ALL of it is going into that Acct. Some of it is, or was, anyway, undoubtedly going directly to the Zimmerman's as cash and checks. Again, shaking their credibility when they say they have no money.



    So, I'm not ready to say that that Mr. Zimmerman absolutely can or cannot be trusted, but I also believe that he shouldn't be released until the trial.
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  • BIG BAD... bob 2012/06/15 17:58:36
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    Excellent viewsTks
  • Prime Time Lime 2012/06/04 16:04:58
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    Prime Time Lime
    +2
    With the new passport he received it appears he could be a flight risk to leave the country.He should be denied a second bail,for he cannot be trusted.
  • Schläue~© Prime T... 2012/06/04 16:30:17
    Schläue~©
    +1
    The second Passport was to replace the one he thought he lost well before any of this happened. It was due to expire in May.
    Do you know when he physically obtained the second one?
  • Prime T... Schläue~© 2012/06/04 16:35:47
    Prime Time Lime
    +2
    Then he replaced it.The issue is that he has a valid passport and from what I have seen in the news the trial could be a year away.If he was free on bond,he would have plenty of time to flee the country.
  • Schläue~© Prime T... 2012/06/04 16:51:55
    Schläue~©
    +2
    He's already had over 3 months to flee and over half of that time was before he was formally charged.
    He would have been gone, long ago and has shown no indications of doing so.
    He's been on a 'ankle bracelet' monitor and calls the Seminole County Sheriff's office on a daily basis as well.
    The Sheriff said this morning that he has kept in constant contact and the Sanford Police have said the same thing.

    Besides, Detective Gilbreath has already admitted under oath that the prosecution doesn't have a scrap of evidence that shoes Zimmerman initiated the altercation, or have any proof to dispute his claim that he was walking back to his vehicle when attacked.

    They have the burden of proof and in reality, don't have a manslaughter or even a stalking case.

    This will never go to trial.
  • Prime T... Schläue~© 2012/06/04 17:42:55
    Prime Time Lime
    +2
    I did not know about the ankle bracelet. The judge will decide if he should get another bail hearing,though the fact Zimmerman lied about his financial resources does not do well for his stance.I think it will go to trial with a guilty verdict.We shall see what the jurors decide and it will be in their hands.
  • Schläue~© Prime T... 2012/06/04 17:52:45
    Schläue~©
    +2
    The fb Pay-pal account specifically said the collected funds were to be used ONLY for legal defense fees and living expenses.
    Those funds were not legally at his disposal to use for posting bail.

    It will never get to a full trial. Mark O'Mara is going to absolutely shred DeeDee's story about the phone call and this will get tossed out of court during the preliminary hearings.

    People are going to be pissed, but that's the way it will shake down. They simply have no case.
  • Pat 2012/06/04 15:32:28
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    Pat
    +2
    No, he and his wife were hiding information from the court. If he will lie about this guess what else he will lie about?
  • lm1b2 2012/06/04 15:21:27
    Yes, we can trust him.
    lm1b2
    +1
    I see you have lumped on the Vigilante wagon just like the Media,and the Black community!
  • Schläue~© 2012/06/04 14:24:09
    Yes, we can trust him.
    Schläue~©
    +3
    That's funny.... the first sentence is a lie. Zimmerman wasn't re-arrested for lying to the Judge.
    His bond was revoked and he returned himself into jail, pending another bond hearing to DETERMINE if anyone lied, committed perjury, misrepresented.... etc.

    His fb Pay-pal account specifically stated that the funds collected on that site would be used ONLY for legal fees and living expenses.
    The family was asked about their financial ability to post bond. The Pay-pal account was even brought up at the first bond hearing and Zimmerman's wife indicated she didn't know what the total amount collected was.

    Ability to pay isn't supposed be a factor anyway, when determining the amount of bond. Past criminal history, repeat offenses, risk of flight and the nature of the charge, are.

    Another chapter in the dog & pony show, where the prosecution doesn't have a case for Manslaughter, much less Murder 2. They don't even have a case for stalking or any other crime they could charge Zimmerman with. Fact is.... he didn't violate any laws.
  • Reichstolz 2012/06/04 14:21:14
    Undecided
    Reichstolz
    +2
    He should have never been arrested in the first place.
  • bob 2012/06/04 14:17:42
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    bob
    +2
    Liar liar pants on fire
  • Bella 2012/06/04 14:15:31
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    Bella
    +2
    He stashed cash and hid a passport, he needs to stay in jail until the trial.
  • Jiorgia 2012/06/04 14:12:47
    Undecided
    Jiorgia
    +3
    it doesn't matter what i think, it matters what the judge thinks.

    But i think after lying about the amount of money in his bank account and about his possession of a second passport that he shouldn't be trusted.
  • Hank 2012/06/04 14:12:25
    Undecided
    Hank
    +2
    I love the way today's news is reported. Does anyone really care that Zimmerman was "wearing a button-down checkered shirt, blue jeans and sneakers"? Really? Are we to believe George has bad taste in clothing or just the opposite that he is a trend setter in fashion? What is acceptable and appropriate apparel to wear when arrested? On another note from the news article, "He did not answer shouted questions from reporters as he was led inside the jail to be booked", was Zimmerman supposed to hold an impromptu news conference? I'm sure his attorney told him to keep his mouth shut. I have grown weary of the news coverage regarding George Zimmerman. I know one thing, at the very least this guy uses extremely poor judgment or he would not be in the news, hell he would not be in jail if he had just followed the direction of the dispatcher...stay in your car !!! What a moron. Let the trial begin...but don't look forward to that happening within the next 12 to 18 months. I will be surprised if the trial takes place in the next year.
  • Gloria Hank 2012/06/04 14:16:19
    Gloria
    +2
    I love it! Don't we all, when arrested, ask the officers if they will drop by the house for a few minutes for us to put on appropriate attire?
  • Seonag 2012/06/04 14:12:10
    Undecided
    Seonag
    +3
    My question is why it took over a month for the judge to revoke the bail (originally granted on April 20th) since the existence of the Pay-Pal trust account was made known on Friday, April 27th? It was all over the news and even Zimmerman's lawyer commented on it. Revocation appears to be politically motivated to me.
  • Gloria Seonag 2012/06/04 14:18:40
    Gloria
    +1
    My questions are;
    Why wasn't Zimmerman arrested immediately after the murder?
    Why was Martin's body left in the morgue for three days?
    Why didn't the police check Martin's cell phone for recent calls & Contact List to find his next of kin?
  • Seonag Gloria 2012/06/04 14:23:57
    Seonag
    +3
    All good questions --- the whole matter is a mess and being played out in the media for political purposes which, in my opinion, is WRONG. Here are a few questions I have: Why was the picture used my MSM of Martin over 3 years old? Why was Zimmerman referred to as 'white' and when it came out he was of Hispanic origin, amended to white Hispanic? Why has the MSM ignored the black on white crime, but jumps all over white on black? Something is very wrong in the country!
  • Gloria Seonag 2012/06/04 14:26:54
    Gloria
    Going wrong is nothing new!
  • BIG BAD... Gloria 2012/06/15 18:03:20
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    +1
    A lot of important information is held back for the trial. I'm sure there are a ton of information we have not heard yet.
  • Gloria BIG BAD... 2012/06/17 11:45:56
    Gloria
    I agree. Happy Father's Day.
  • AmericanVirus 2012/06/04 14:12:08
    Undecided
    AmericanVirus
    +2
    Why does anyone still care?
  • Gloria America... 2012/06/06 00:38:41
    Gloria
    +1
    Because a teenager was murdered.
  • America... Gloria 2012/06/06 00:44:08
  • Gloria America... 2012/06/06 01:07:58
    Gloria
    +1
    No matter what I think it's up to the judge to let him bail out. If Zimmerman is found guilty or innocent there is nothing I can do. At the very least he was finally arrested & will stand trial.
  • America... Gloria 2012/06/06 01:19:04
    AmericanVirus
    +1
    The media is too involved in my opinion.
    The man was arrested and is standing trial, leave the rest to the judge and jury.
  • Gloria America... 2012/06/06 01:21:45
    Gloria
    +1
    As for the judge & jury I already said that but you didn't read that well.
  • America... Gloria 2012/06/06 02:42:26
    AmericanVirus
    +1
    I did read, and I was making my point that it's not for us to debate anymore. The issue is being handled, there is nothing left for us to argue about on the situation.
  • Gloria 2012/06/04 14:11:16
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    Gloria
    +2
    No matter what I think it's up to the judge to let him bail out. If Zimmerman is found guilty or innocent there is nothing I can do. At the very least he was finally arrested & will stand trial.
  • Z 2012/06/04 14:10:49
    Undecided
    Z
    +2
    First and for most, his bail lie is irrelevant to the court issue, and it won't be a part of the trial. Second, I don't have to trust his word to know that the 5 other witnesses, medical evidence and ballistics evidence of the incident proves his story is true.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/06/04 14:06:37
    Undecided
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    The judge has revoked his current bail but may allow him bail again - it will be up to the judge.
    He has never run from the beginning, reported to the police when this bail was revoked, and there is no reason to think he will now -
  • BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/06/04 14:03:06
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    +5
    Bad move Mr. Zimmerman, trying to hide financial assets, playing fast and loose with the Judge and courts, This will certainly hinder any credibility with the Judge, Courts and potential jurors! What was this guy thinking or was he just like the night he Killed Trayvon Martin.

    George Zimmerman in hand cuffs arrested
  • Schläue~© BIG BAD... 2012/06/04 14:25:20 (edited)
    Schläue~©
    +2
    The Pay pal account was brought up at his last bond hearing. Who lied?

    What was he thinking?

    Let's bounce your head off a concrete slab for 45 seconds and perhaps that will help you formulate an answer.
  • Schläue~© BIG BAD... 2012/06/04 16:31:22
    Schläue~©
    +2
    crickets .......chirp ..... chirp .... chirp
  • Maci 2012/06/04 14:02:43
  • stevmackey 2012/06/04 13:56:49
    No, He is a liar and can not be trusted.
    stevmackey
    +3
    He cooked his own goose.

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