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Have you heard Ft Worth was made Just a little bit *BETTER*, thanks to a gun?

Marvelous Wildfire 2012/06/14 16:09:44
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A Fort Worth man who authorities say forced his way into a Haltom
City home and assaulted a couple was fatally shot by the homeowner,
Haltom City police said Tuesday.

The Tarrant County medical
examiner's office identified the man as Jerome Mitchell, 23, who was
pronounced dead Sunday evening at the home.

"Right now, it looks like it was a home invasion," police Cpl. Joe Hackfeld said Tuesday. "It was a robbery attempt."

The 28-year-old homeowner and his 23-year-old girlfriend suffered minor injuries.

No one has been arrested in the case, which will be presented to a Tarrant County grand jury.

Police responded to a call about 6:15 p.m. Sunday in the 5300 block of Mallory Drive.

The
homeowner and his girlfriend told authorities that they were in the
house when a man broke down the door, walked inside, picked up an object
and began assaulting them.

The homeowner got a handgun and fired
multiple times, police said. When officers arrived, Mitchell had died
from multiple gunshot wounds.

Authorities did not say whether Mitchell had known the couple.

Mitchell
had a criminal history in Tarrant County and Travis County, according
to court records. He was arrested in 2006 in connection with robberies
in Fort Worth and Watauga and was later arrested in Travis County that
same year and served time in prison. He was charged with fleeing from
Fort Worth police in February and was sentenced to 60 days in jail,
records show.

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Brings tears of joy to one's eyes don't it?

"I have a dream!
A dream where instead of reading
about a cute college coed left dead and naked out in a vacant lot or
bloated and floating in a river, the story reads, “dead jackass found
double-tapped and dead on the curb as his soul wings its way to hell,
all because he messed with the wrong mama.”
-Doug Giles


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  • Evil 1 2012/06/14 16:14:04
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    support the second amendment

    "I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six"

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  • DJPanicDC 2012/06/15 00:32:22
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    DJPanicDC
    Kinda ironic you think the Ft Hood SHOOTING was made better by a gun, it only happened because of a gun
  • Marvelo... DJPanicDC 2012/06/15 03:54:13
    Marvelous Wildfire
    No, *GUN CONTROL* made the Fort Hood Massacre possible.
    Had the soldiers been trusted enough by their own Government, to be armed, the POS would have been "Late to Breakfast in HELL" shortly after the first shot.
  • santa6642 2012/06/14 22:24:24 (edited)
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    santa6642
    +1
    Amen , brothers and sisters. Pass the ammo please.
  • Don Leuty 2012/06/14 22:09:08 (edited)
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    Hat's off to my neighbors. Saved the tax payers a ton of money and helped relieve overcrowding in our prisons, not to mention, their own well being.
  • Texas Johnny 2012/06/14 21:16:06
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    We love the Castle Law!!!
    Tombstone wyatt earp
  • prosperhappily 2012/06/14 20:34:02
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    prosperhappily
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    He got what he deserved.
  • BigFig#9 2012/06/14 19:33:13
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    BigFig#9
    So, for every anecdotal example of a gun possibly being used to defend someone in mortal danger I'll 'guesstimate' there are 4-6 other examples of guns leading to a tragedy - accidental shooting by and of children, drunk dudes blasting their 'cheating wives' (whether they were really cheating or not), mothers shooting 'burglars' who were actually family members trying to sneak in without waking anyone, etc.... If we are going to decide that somehow guns are so central to what we are as Americans then we better get a whole lot smarter about how we sue them, where we store them, and what we do with them while we drink.... Because STATISTICALLY there's a whole bunch more bad stories than good stories and statistics beats anecdotal any day of the week.
  • Marvelo... BigFig#9 2012/06/14 20:58:05
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Actually, you're totally wrong in each category you addressed.

    You state: "So, for every anecdotal example of a gun possibly being used to defend someone in mortal danger I'll 'guesstimate' there are 4-6 other examples of guns leading to a tragedy "

    That "'guesstimate'" of course is based on what you've been *TOLD* to believe, by the media, politicians and groups that get millions of dollars every time an *UNARMED VICTIM* is slaughtered by a *CRIMINAL* with a gun, rather than actual facts.

    So here's something that is NOT just baseless "'guesstimate'": For every accidental death (802), suicide (16,869) or homicide (11,348) (Unintentional Firearm Deaths, 2001, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control) with a firearm (29,019), 13 lives (390,000) (Targeting Guns, Gary Kleck, Aldine de Gruyter, 1997) are preserved through defensive use.

    Let's put the ridiculousness of your "'guesstimate'" into a better context compared to *ACTUAL FACTS*: If each of the 85 MILLION gun owners in the USA had to give you a penny each year, and each time there was a gun murder you had to give the next of kin a penny. In 2001, you would have taken in $850,000, and you would have paid out . . . $113.48.

    Firearms in private hands are used an estimated 2....







    Actually, you're totally wrong in each category you addressed.

    You state: "So, for every anecdotal example of a gun possibly being used to defend someone in mortal danger I'll 'guesstimate' there are 4-6 other examples of guns leading to a tragedy "

    That "'guesstimate'" of course is based on what you've been *TOLD* to believe, by the media, politicians and groups that get millions of dollars every time an *UNARMED VICTIM* is slaughtered by a *CRIMINAL* with a gun, rather than actual facts.

    So here's something that is NOT just baseless "'guesstimate'": For every accidental death (802), suicide (16,869) or homicide (11,348) (Unintentional Firearm Deaths, 2001, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control) with a firearm (29,019), 13 lives (390,000) (Targeting Guns, Gary Kleck, Aldine de Gruyter, 1997) are preserved through defensive use.

    Let's put the ridiculousness of your "'guesstimate'" into a better context compared to *ACTUAL FACTS*: If each of the 85 MILLION gun owners in the USA had to give you a penny each year, and each time there was a gun murder you had to give the next of kin a penny. In 2001, you would have taken in $850,000, and you would have paid out . . . $113.48.

    Firearms in private hands are used an estimated 2.5 million times (or 6,849 times each day) each year to prevent crime. (Gary Kleck, Criminologist, Florida State University, 1997)

    As for children dying from gun deaths, how many do you feel there are every year?
    In 2007, there were only 54 accidental gun deaths for children under age 13. About 12
    times as many children died from drowning during the same period. (WISQARS Injury Mortality Report, Center for Disease Control, 2007)

    You state: "Because STATISTICALLY there's a whole bunch more bad stories than good stories and statistics beats anecdotal any day of the week."

    No using verifiable statistics there isn't.
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  • BigFig#9 Marvelo... 2012/06/14 21:30:25
    BigFig#9
    So you really believe that guns 'prevent' 390,000 murders and 2.5 million crimes a year and that it's just coincidence that the most gun happy nation on earth is also the one with the most gun violence and the highest crime rates. Pure coincidence. You are mixing statistical sources and overstating the value of guns in self defense. But lets get back to my real point - not to eliminate guns, but to make robust training (at least what a driver receives) and robust controls of who owns a gun and where that gun ends up a national priority. States where you can buy 100s of guns and sell them on street corners in adjoining states for cash and NOT have to explain how or why that happened are ridiculous. Gun Club and Gun show exclusions are ridiculous. Control guns at least as well as you control motor vehicles and driver licenses and I'm OK with that. And, as we do with cars, we'll have accidents caused by stupid people who drink and carry a gun (the usual combination) or other accidents but at least we'll have taken some reasonable precautions. That's all I'm saying.
  • Taken' ... BigFig#9 2012/06/14 22:12:31
    Taken' Fire for Truth
    +2
    Guns are a constitutional right. A drivers license is not. Kill with a gun or a vehicle outside of law and go to jail. Drive bad dangerous or drunk, lose your license. Be reckless or dangerous with a gun, go to jail and lose your individual right to keep and bear arms. Make a unconstitutionl law and lose everyones righe to kee and bear arms. Lose the second amendment, lose the first amendment. domino affect
    They diidnt think it would go that far. There is a endless supply of evil men.
     concentration camp
  • Marvelo... BigFig#9 2012/06/15 23:04:46
    Marvelous Wildfire
    I'm sorry, but you're answering out of profound ignorance on this subject.

    You state: "So you really believe that guns 'prevent' 390,000 murders and 2.5 million crimes a year and that it's just coincidence that the most gun happy nation on earth is also the one with the most gun violence and the highest crime rates."

    First off, you're wrong about "the most gun happy nation on earth is also the one with the most gun violence and the highest crime rates."
    According to the 2001 Dutch Ministry of Justice, Criminal Victimization in Seventeen Industrialized Countries, the USA is #13, behind #1 Australia, #2 England and Wales, #3 Scotland, #4 Canada, #5 Finland, #6 Poland, #7 Northern Ireland, #8 Denmark, #9 France, #10 Sweden, #11 Switzerland, and #12 Netherlands.
    But why let actual facts affect you opinion, right?
    Now try to use logic: How many of those acts of "gun violence and the highest crime rates" were the *ILLEGAL ACTS* of *CRIMINALS* violating existing laws?
    Exactly how, do you believe, that *DISARMING* the criminals' intended victims will make the victims safer?
    Now, exactly what *NEW* gun control laws, do *YOU* feel, those willing to commit rape, robbery and murder would obey? And exactly why would the *CRIMINALS*, that presently *IGNORE* the current gun control laws, would *OB...











































    I'm sorry, but you're answering out of profound ignorance on this subject.

    You state: "So you really believe that guns 'prevent' 390,000 murders and 2.5 million crimes a year and that it's just coincidence that the most gun happy nation on earth is also the one with the most gun violence and the highest crime rates."

    First off, you're wrong about "the most gun happy nation on earth is also the one with the most gun violence and the highest crime rates."
    According to the 2001 Dutch Ministry of Justice, Criminal Victimization in Seventeen Industrialized Countries, the USA is #13, behind #1 Australia, #2 England and Wales, #3 Scotland, #4 Canada, #5 Finland, #6 Poland, #7 Northern Ireland, #8 Denmark, #9 France, #10 Sweden, #11 Switzerland, and #12 Netherlands.
    But why let actual facts affect you opinion, right?
    Now try to use logic: How many of those acts of "gun violence and the highest crime rates" were the *ILLEGAL ACTS* of *CRIMINALS* violating existing laws?
    Exactly how, do you believe, that *DISARMING* the criminals' intended victims will make the victims safer?
    Now, exactly what *NEW* gun control laws, do *YOU* feel, those willing to commit rape, robbery and murder would obey? And exactly why would the *CRIMINALS*, that presently *IGNORE* the current gun control laws, would *OBEY* the *NEW* gun control laws?

    You state: "Pure coincidence. You are mixing statistical sources and overstating the value of guns in self defense."

    The FBI crime statistics dispute your claim.
    I KNOW! Give us some verifiable statistics that support *YOUR* claims!

    You state: "But lets get back to my real point - not to eliminate guns, but to make robust training (at least what a driver receives) and robust controls of who owns a gun and where that gun ends up a national priority."

    It is only your abject ignorance on this subject that allows you to make such a terribly foolish statement.
    As driving is *NOT* a specifically enumerated Constitutionally guaranteed Civil Right; The keeping and bearing of arms *IS* a specifically enumerated Constitutionally guaranteed Civil Right, I would be for the training you mentioned starting in middle school, and gun safety taught in elementary school.
    The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that felons are *LEGALLY IMMUNE* from *ALL FORMS* of gun registration. (Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85, 1968)

    You state: "States where you can buy 100s of guns and sell them on street corners in adjoining states for cash and NOT have to explain how or why that happened are ridiculous."

    Actually, let's look at that ridiculous claim with logic and reason, instead of only abject stupidity and ignorance.
    Surely, you are not so stupid, as to believe the recipient side of a wrongful use equation will have *MORE* of the actual problem items than the *SUPPLY SIDE*. (Meaning: Areas where guns are supplied by black market have more guns, than where guns are easily acquire legally.)

    Washington D.C. has had virtually a total ban on functional gun ownership since 1976 and yet *during the heart* of its gun ban, had a murder rate of 56.9 per 100,000. While at the same time, just *3 MILES* away, just across the river is Arlington, Virginia, where according to the Brady Center, laws concerning gun ownership are "extremely lax". In Arlington, Virginia, with it's lax gun control law, the murder rate was just 1.6 per 100,000, less than 3% of the Washington, D.C. rate. (Crime in the United States, FBI, 1998)

    You state: "Gun Club and Gun show exclusions are ridiculous."

    That would be TRUE! . . . if it weren't just a blatant *LIE*.
    Proof: Name what is *LEGAL* inside a Gun Club and Gun show, that is *ILLEGAL* outside the doors of the same Gun Club and Gun show.
    Hint: NOTHING! "Gun show loophole" was just a term invented in an effort to strip more Rights and Freedom from the stupid and gullible.

    You state: "Control guns at least as well as you control motor vehicles and driver licenses and I'm OK with that. And, as we do with cars, we'll have accidents caused by stupid people who drink and carry a gun (the usual combination) or other accidents but at least we'll have taken some reasonable precautions. That's all I'm saying."

    Driving is *NOT* a *SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED* and *CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED* Civil Right.
    But I would *LOVE* for guns to be treated like the much more lethal motor vehicles!
    You only made your statement, because you have been *told* to believe that, without an ounce of intelligent thought on your own part.
    I will attempt to illustrate the stupid of your statement.

    If my brother gave her the money, my 4-year-old daughter could *LEGALLY* buy, *ANY KIND* of motor vehicle she wished, from *ANY DEALER* she wished. Wouldn't that be *GREAT* if guns were treated like that . . . again?!

    My daughter could *LEGALLY* drive her car all that she liked *WITHOUT A LICENSE* and *WITHOUT INSURANCE*! Just not on public roadways.
    Wouldn't that be *GREAT* if guns were treated like that . . . again?!

    When my daughter turns 16.5-years-old, she can *LEGALLY* drive her car where she likes *ON PUBLIC ROADWAYS*! Wouldn't it be *GREAT*, and "reasonable", if she could also carry her gun wherever she could drive! . . . again?

    And, God forbid it should happen, if my daughter drove drunk and killed someone: She would lose her license and could go to PRISON! . . .for a while.
    After her time was served, in most States, she would be allowed to get her license back!
    Wouldn't it be great if felons could get their 2nd Amendment Right back, after their time was served?! . . . again!

    Boy! If that kind of *FREEDOM* and *LIBERTY* was restored to the American people, we'd see a real reduction in the violent crime we see today.
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  • Taken' ... Marvelo... 2012/06/14 21:47:20
    Taken' Fire for Truth
    +1
    Brrravvvvvo
  • Marvelo... Taken' ... 2012/06/15 03:55:03
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Thank You.
  • Taken' ... Marvelo... 2012/06/15 03:58:33
    Taken' Fire for Truth
    +1
    I dont just give out raves but you get one....good job
  • Marvelo... Taken' ... 2012/06/15 14:49:52 (edited)
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Thank You very much, that means a lot to me.

    It's sad when people have beliefs formed by the media rather than facts.
    What makes the book "More Guns, Less Crime" particularly important to me, is that it was originally written by an *ANTI-GUN* person, to disprove the value of guns. First MMM
  • Don Leuty BigFig#9 2012/06/14 22:15:48
    Don Leuty
    +3
    A gun is a tool, a machine. It neither thinks nor emotes. Automobiles are far more prolific killers. Both guns and cars have tragic outcomes when mishandled.
  • Cuppajo 2012/06/14 19:26:12
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    You'll notice that no where in the report does it mention anyone's race.
    THAT'S why you won't hear about this on the news.
  • john Kills 2012/06/14 19:25:46
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    This is how criminals need to be dealt with. Perfect justice.
  • Dagon 2012/06/14 18:03:06
  • Patric 2012/06/14 16:48:14
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    +3
    when seconds matter, law enforcement is only minutes away..
    the police carry a firearm to protect them selves, not you and I
    the responsibility for self protection , is ...... your self..

    sorry to hear that this young man had to lose his life, sorry to hear that this young couple had to go thru this ,,,, glad to hear that the young fellow and his woman friend are safe..
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/06/14 16:38:09
  • Charles E whitewu... 2012/06/14 17:58:48
    Charles E
    +3
    Since Chigg-aago is run by thugs and criminals it only makes sense that they would have laws requiring the innocent to die like good victims.
  • whitewu... Charles E 2012/06/14 18:08:37
  • Charles E whitewu... 2012/06/14 23:32:30
    Charles E
    +2
    And the Rahm and Richie law that pays for their armed bodyguards with taxes from the disarmed masses.
  • beachbum 2012/06/14 16:29:38
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    +4
    Texas has what is called the Castle law - the right to defend yourself and your property.......
  • whitewu... beachbum 2012/06/14 18:10:04 (edited)
  • beachbum whitewu... 2012/06/14 19:25:28
    beachbum
    +1
    Wellllll, that's not exactly how it works here...........
  • prosper... whitewu... 2012/06/14 20:37:04
    prosperhappily
    +1
    Self-defense is a inalienable right, assuming you use a reasonable amount of force. If politicians interfere with that right, THEY are criminals.
  • rightside 2012/06/14 16:28:40
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    rightside
    +5
    That just happened here in Newman Lake, Wa. A man was at his girlfriends house when another guy broke in. The guy called 911 and it was all caught on tape as he was forced to fire upon the intruder and kill him.
    Thank God I had a gun
  • Sheila 2012/06/14 16:24:06 (edited)
  • Evil 1 2012/06/14 16:14:04
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    +6
    support the second amendment

    "I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six"

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