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Have the Past 10 Years Been the Worst in U.S. History?

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Sure, the past decade has brought us two intractable wars that have killed thousands of Americans and tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis, the deadly 9/11 attacks and the worst economic meltdown in modern history.

But don't tell that to Fox News columnist Martin Sieff, the former Managing Editor of International Affairs, who took issue with New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman's recent speech to a "worshipful audience" on that subject at the annual Aspen Festival of Ideas in June.

Yes, the past decade was not, according to Sieff, "no great shakes," what with the wars, 9/11, and a "very bad but least not terminal Wall Street meltdown in September 2008," but the WORST decade in American history.

C'mon, wrote Sieff. Worse than the 1860s, when 650,000 Americans were killed on both sides in the Civil War – "the proportional equivalent of 6.5 million dying in war in five years?"

Worse than the 1950s, when "millions of terrified American children were drilled in hiding under their school desks as a supposed protection against thermonuclear war?"

Keep in mind, as terrible as the death tolls in Iraq and Afghanistan are, they're 10 times under the number of Americans killed in Vietnam. And we haven't had race riots like we did under liberal Democrats Woodrow Wilson in 1919 and Lyndon Johnson in 1968, have we? No one tried to turn back the "admirable" civil rights achievements of the 1960s and there haven't been mass graves dug in New York's Central Park to house the corpses of cholera victims like there were in the 1850s.

Do you think the past 10 years have been the worst in U.S. history?
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  • mark 2011/07/18 15:32:36
    No
    mark
    +16
    Hello. Let's see, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the smallpox epidemic, the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, WW1, Pearl Harbor and WW2, the Vietnam War, etc. etc. I don't think so. We've just become spoiled and used to a very high standard of living.

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  • Gasbagmike 2012/03/01 21:03:01
    No
    Gasbagmike
    +1
    although the last almost 4 years have been horrible.
    4 years horrible
  • ruru 2011/07/31 05:09:30
    No
    ruru
    Certainly not. As others have mentioned, we have had the Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War, Great depression, etc. I think the first ten years might have been the worst. I have been reading a book entitled The Real George Washington. It is almost unimagineable what George Washington and his soldiers went through. Their living conditions were deplorable and Mr. Washington couldn't get congress to provide enough money for his troops.
  • tyler 2011/07/22 03:57:42
    No
    tyler
    It is hard to say since i am not 235 years old
  • Commrade#371 2011/07/20 17:27:21
    No
    Commrade#371
    1920's were definetly the worst weve had to endure.
  • Tom 2011/07/20 03:17:58
    Yes
    Tom
    trillions in debt, 9/11 but Saddam and Osama were killed so that was good lol
  • burning... Tom 2012/06/27 10:47:27 (edited)
    burningsnowman
    +1
    Don't forget the entire global economy gradually being destroyed so thieving bankers can get even richer!
  • Tom burning... 2012/07/12 02:01:33
    Tom
    +1
    how about greedy businessmen as well lol Mitt Romney Bain Capital
  • Bureauc 0Bamao 2011/07/20 02:59:10
    No
    Bureauc 0Bamao
    +1
    But if the the past 3 or 4 are any indication things can get much worse before they are corrected. As time goes by the toilet water swirls faster and faster and we have the worst possible leadership in this nightmare.
  • He'a: ka'ka:' 2011/07/20 02:24:33
    No
    He'a: ka'ka:'
    I think the 1340's beat it with the black plague.
  • ruru He'a: k... 2011/07/31 05:11:52
    ruru
    How old do you think the USA is?
  • He'a: k... ruru 2011/07/31 05:19:54
    He'a: ka'ka:'
    ~235. However, I posted that comment on the incorrect spot. I tried to find it and delete it, but it was lost. Today's lesson: Don't SodaHead under the influence of sleep deprivation.
  • ruru He'a: k... 2011/07/31 13:47:49
    ruru
    +1
    That explains a lot. Been there, done that.
  • Alien Ramone 2011/07/19 17:51:50
    No
    Alien Ramone
    +1
    These are still the good old days for most. The worst is yet to come. I'd say the worst so far in the U.S. would have been during the Civil War.
  • Lolaita 2011/07/19 14:29:35
    No
    Lolaita
    +1
    Dude, this is average.
    Except for reproductive rights being threatened and gay rights kind of recognized...other than that...we're doing ok.
  • ♥PrettyLittleLiarsLover♥ 2011/07/19 13:45:16
    Yes
    ♥PrettyLittleLiarsLover♥
    Yup Obama even broke our president tradition!!!
  • GINGERBREAD 2011/07/19 13:33:47
    Yes
    GINGERBREAD
    +1
    We started the last decade with a bang. We were headed for a crash, but we averted the crash by lowering taxes and relaxing the rules. But the republican majority decided that they needed to spend the money, instead of paying off our debt. Then, the people got tired of the constant spending and threw them out of office, and replaced it with a more spendthrift congress. By the end of the decade, we are in such a deep, deep hole, and the people said that enough was enough, but there are still a lot of spendthrifts in congress, and no one wants to bite the bullet, scared that if they do, they will not get reelected
  • Bureauc... GINGERB... 2011/07/20 03:06:44
    Bureauc 0Bamao
    +2
    Too bad pelosi's promise in jan 2007 ''no more budget deficits, pay as you go'' was a lie. She then proceeded to send for Bush's signature, the largest budget deficit of his Presidency. Only to quadruple that under Øbama.
  • GINGERB... Bureauc... 2011/07/20 12:29:22
    GINGERBREAD
    +1
    There is only ONE TRUTH that we can truly believe in, as far as these liberals are concerned. THEY WILL LIE. EVERY TIME THEY OPEN THEIR MOUTHS, A LIE COMES OUT OF IT.
  • Bureauc... GINGERB... 2012/07/13 01:21:39
    Bureauc 0Bamao
    Not all of them Lie. Some are too stupid to know what they are saying is just not so.
    Congressman Hank Johnson on the island of Guam.

    How did that Navy Officer keep a straight face?
  • GINGERB... Bureauc... 2012/07/13 02:22:52
    GINGERBREAD
    Who was it that said "STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES"?
  • burning... Bureauc... 2012/06/27 10:49:45
    burningsnowman
    +1
    Traitor Pelosi should be water boarded.
  • Aurora 2011/07/19 13:33:20
    No
    Aurora
    +1
    it turned dark the day Oliar was elected, other than that I was happy. 911 was a tragedy that brought America together at one of the saddest times of my life.
  • Word Weaver 2011/07/19 13:24:59
    No
    Word Weaver
    In terms of economic downturn, and the current war on terrorism, I don't think we've suffered as in times past. I will say though that the United States has never faced an enemy like we have in the extremist jihad. We aren't fighting against enemies who have a different political ideology. We are fighting against enemies who want us to convert to their way of religious thinking or die. That is a first in our history.
  • leslie 2011/07/19 13:23:27
    I think the past 10 years have been...
    leslie
    +1
    Painful, deadly and devastating. One of the things that I think makes it worse than other eras is the fact that there is SO MASSIVELY MUCH MORE MEDIA COVERAGE. There are days that you can not get away from it.
  • ptete in left I trust ~ POT... 2011/07/19 13:01:25
    I think the past 10 years have been...
    ptete in left I trust ~ POTC**FUKU2**
    +2
    Devasting! We've had many periods in our history that have been worse - but that doesn't mean that there aren't people suffering now. And we haven't seen ALL the effects that these past tens years will have generated. Could be that the next 10 years will be a whole lot worse.
  • JAKE~PWCM~JLA 2011/07/19 12:46:52
    No
    JAKE~PWCM~JLA
    It's been tough, but America has seen worse. And, no thanks to liberals, has always come out of the tough times stronger.
  • Franklin 2011/07/19 12:38:53
    No
    Franklin
    +3
    This generation has not seen anything (yet!) … this generation will suffer and eventually even die by the millions / not because of mistakes made in the first few years of this century but as a direct result of the disastrous attempts to “fix” those made up problems ! The government will survive and even thrive but at a terrible cost to both the economy and to the people in the economy ...its nice to be able to look down on the little people and laugh at their suffering while you steal their wealth for yourself !!! cost economy people economy people laugh suffering steal wealth Laughing obama cost economy people economy people laugh suffering steal wealth cost economy people economy people laugh suffering steal wealth Laughing pelosi cost economy people economy people laugh suffering steal wealth Laughing pelosi reid obama
  • Tigger Too 2011/07/19 12:03:16
    I think the past 10 years have been...
    Tigger Too
    Sure, the past decade in U.S. history hasn't been a bed of roses, but I think it's all relative. After all, my own perception is my reality. It's easy to sit back and read the history books, or listen to personal accounts that have been handed down through the years. Intellectually, I know things like Valley Forge, the Civil War, the Depression, Pearl Harbor, nuclear threats, natural disasters, and many other times in American history have caused our country to suffer. It's difficult for me to appreciate the hardships of other times, since I personally didn't have to experience them. Since the beginning of time, civilizations have looked back with nostalgia at the "good old days," and I'm pretty sure that if we'd been able to question people from 1620 until the present day if THEIR times were the worst in history, they would have said YES. Again, it's a matter of perception.

    Instead of pissing and moaning, feeling sorry for ourselves and thinking of the negative impact the last decade, or whatever decade, has had on us, why don't we be a little more optimistic? How can we hope to ensure a great, happy future for our children if we can't stop bitching about all the awful things going on around us? Lest we forget, ALL of the terrible times in the past have been endured, and America has prevailed throughout each test. You know, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger, and all that rot. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
  • onebad 2011/07/19 10:58:49
  • Sister Hoover of the Immacu... 2011/07/19 09:40:42
    I think the past 10 years have been...
    Sister Hoover of the Immaculate Conception
    Enlightening....

    self inflicted wounds...

    no transparancy...

    media cover ups....

    people with statements dieing...

    the truth WILL come out....
  • Keith 2011/07/19 09:07:20
  • Sailor Dale 2011/07/19 08:39:17
    Yes
    Sailor Dale
    +1
    More people have died since 1973's Roe v. Wade at the hands of an abortionist than ever died in all wars this country has ever fought, since all the way back to 1776!
    BUT, very few people are willing to "call a spade a spade" and admit the Great American Holocaust since 1973 has claimed way more innocent lives than all the wars, Drunk Drivers, Murders, and everything else put together!!!

    ALL the woes, disasters, crime, homosexuality, sexual immorality and every other bad thing that has happened since 1960 are but symptoms of the REAL problem...This Nation has turned it's back on God, and kicked Him out of practically everything, since the 1962 court case with Madeline Murry O'Hare and the removal of the Bible & Christian Prayer from our schools....
    And the country has been going downhill ever since!!!

    For you atheists that wrongfully think we were not founded as a CHRISTIAN Nation, why did it take from 1750 until 1962 to remove the Bible from public schools??? YES, the BIBLE was the VERY FIRST textbook in ALL the public schools..............Oh, Ye Foolish atheists!!!!!
  • Dark De... Sailor ... 2011/07/19 10:30:59
    Dark Demonic™ ★ The Original SodaHead Guru ★
    +3
    Maybe Christians spent so much time condemning and burning all other books that the bible was all that was left to place in schools.
  • Sailor ... Dark De... 2011/07/19 10:44:49
    Sailor Dale
    LOL.....nice try!
  • Dark De... Sailor ... 2011/07/19 10:52:26
    Dark Demonic™ ★ The Original SodaHead Guru ★
    +1
    Yes, it was a nice try, but luckily many books survived and have been created since.

    "In 1650, a religious pamphlet by William Pynchon was confiscated by Puritan authorities in Massachusetts, condemned by the General Court and burned by the public executioner in the Boston marketplace. The incident is considered to be the first book-burning in America."

    Source: http://www.digitaljournal.com...

    executioner boston marketplace incident book-burning america source httpwww digitaljournal
  • Sailor ... Dark De... 2011/07/19 11:03:37
    Sailor Dale
    that's nice....still does not distract from the truth of what I said!!!
  • Dark De... Sailor ... 2011/07/19 11:09:16
    Dark Demonic™ ★ The Original SodaHead Guru ★
    +2
    Where you see "truth", I see an opinion. Nothing more.
  • Sailor ... Dark De... 2011/07/19 11:13:19
    Sailor Dale
    just because you don't like it, does not make it any less true!!! Goodnight, pal!!!
  • Dark De... Sailor ... 2011/07/19 13:45:13
    Dark Demonic™ ★ The Original SodaHead Guru ★
    +1
    Likewise, just because you believe it doesn't make any less fallacious.
  • Sailor ... Dark De... 2011/07/27 00:20:25
    Sailor Dale
    have a nice life, pal! You will see the truth sooner or later!
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