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Has the War on Drugs FAILED??!!

BlueRepublican 2012/04/14 16:26:56
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It was in 1971 that President Nixon coined the phrase "War on Drugs" to combat America's apetite for consumption. Two years later the DEA was formed to enforce laws passed prohibiting certain drugs.

Alcohol Prohibition was passed in 1919 before and was repealed in 1933 after its overwhelming failure. Prohibition bred organized crime, gangs, civilian criminality, use, and the lives lost trying to keep America "DRY."

Today, supporters of this policy claim that it is a success as proven by the many documented seizures and raids. Over the years many high-level cartel members and drug-traffickers have been arrested. Many also claim that the "War on Drugs" keeps us safer than before the policy took effect.

On the other hand, opponents of the policy claim it to be a failure. They cite our previous experience with prohibition and claim that the "War" itself causes more harm than good. For example, the U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world and a large percentage is due to drug offenses. Second, drug sales actually fund terrorism, street gang violence, drug cartels and corruption.
Finally, legal drugs such as alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs kill more people every year than all other illegal drugs combined.

While policy czars in Washington, big govt departments, prison industry, etc.. lobby to expand funding and increase laws and penalties. Medical professionals, local law enforcement and others advocate for treatment of drug abuse as a medical issue instead of a criminal justice issue.

So with more drugs coming in than ever before, and after BILLIONS of dollars spent combatting a societal ill, and thousands of law enforcement lives lost (DEA, police, border patrol, etc...) many Americans are asking...


Has the War on Drugs FAILED??!!


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  • luvguins 2012/04/14 16:41:44
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    luvguins
    +15
    Yes, an abysmal failure in cost, and the millions imprisoned for the victimless crime of just using. Also enriching criminals who kill to maintain their status quo. Just legalizing marijuana would save billions.

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  • Brosia 2012/05/13 18:52:53
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    Brosia
    It has never been a success. I don't know why they are continuing to pretend that they are doing anything positive.
  • Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/04/28 21:58:33
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    Pretty easy to see it has failed. Of course, it was never actually supposed to succeed in the first place.
  • Jrogers 2012/04/19 06:55:28
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    Jrogers
    Legalize Marijuana and the government will lose a huge money maker - it is all about the money - always has been
  • Uranos7 Jrogers 2012/04/24 19:46:50
    Uranos7
    Lose a money maker?
    Combining the enforcement and incarceration of marijuana related crimes it cost the government about 24 billion a year .
    Trade that for legalizing and taxing it and you would get (an estimated ) 12 billion a year from those taxes. Making it a net gain of 36 billion dollars.
  • Jrogers Uranos7 2012/04/25 00:20:21
    Jrogers
    I'm talking about all the folks that have to pay fines and fees not to mention the people that end up owing a grand or so for sitting in jail - they charge the person sitting in jail for the time they actually spent there. A lot of jails are money making businesses and they make a ton of money off the people who get caught with just enough for personal use.
  • Uranos7 Jrogers 2012/04/25 01:35:52
    Uranos7
    I realize that but we are spending far more keeping them in jail than we could ever make on fines.
    Total federal and state marijuana prisoners in 1997 = 38,806
    Total federal and state marijuana prisoners in 2004 = 44,816
    Total federal and stae marijuana prisoners in 2011= 83,806
    It cost an average of 54,000 dollars to keep a person in prison for one year, [ that is the salary of a teacher] So if you multiply that times the number of people in prison for marijuana you get: $4,525,524,000.
    it is estimated that state and federal governments collected about $3,636,000 in fines last year. We are not collecting enough in fines to even cover the costs of keeping them in jail; much less the cost of law enforcement and court costs.
    By legalizing it you eliminate all those costs, and by regulating and taxing it you raise revenue, far more than fees ever could.
  • Jrogers Uranos7 2012/04/25 02:30:37
    Jrogers
    You do make some sound arguments - but I prefer that they just legalize it - it was a weed and we should not allow them to tax a plant that is supposed to grow wild - next they will want to tax the very air that we breathe - just legalize it
  • Uranos7 Jrogers 2012/04/25 02:32:55
    Uranos7
    Actually the one that grew in America naturally is what most pot smokers call 'Rag weed'.
    Benjiman Franklin brought in the good stuff.
  • Jrogers Uranos7 2012/04/25 02:40:50
    Jrogers
    I did read that he grew it in his garden - and used if for medicinal purposes - we should be doing the same - I read somewhere that it is really a very effective tool to fight cancer with - they should not have been allowed to take that from the people - and to allow us to have cigarettes? They make a ton of money off a product that should be banned - I just quit in March and it makes me mad to think that cigarettes are legal and marijuana is not
  • Uranos7 Jrogers 2012/04/25 05:38:39
    Uranos7
    +1
    Now you are getting to the real reason it is illegal.
    Marijuana has been scientifically proven beneficial for half a dozen ailments, from arthritus to schitzaphrenia and cancer. The only loosers if it became legal would be the BIG PHARMAceutical companies. They would loose billions if you could grow a plant in your back yard that worked better than thier expensive drugs. So politicians from both parties are in thier pockets, and they strive to keep it illegal.
  • Jrogers Uranos7 2012/07/04 12:42:32
    Jrogers
    look up the Dupont and Hearst corporations - they had quite a bit to do with making it illegal from what I understand
  • Uranos7 Jrogers 2012/07/09 15:26:11 (edited)
    Uranos7
    +1
    Dupont is really scared of Hempcrete, a building materiel used to make houses!
    Dozens of hemp homes have been built in Europe in the past two decades, but they're new to the United States, says David Madera, co-founder of Hemp Technologies, a company that supplied the mixture of ground-up hemp stalks, lime and water.
    Its new use reflects an increasing effort to make U.S. homes not only energy-efficient but also healthier. Madera and other proponents say hemp-filled walls are non-toxic, mildew-resistant, pest-free and flame-resistant.
    A building constructed of this would make several of thier products obsolete.
    http://content.usatoday.com/c...
  • Jrogers Uranos7 2012/07/17 18:00:40
    Jrogers
    There you have it and they probably knew this for some time - they would rather fill our lives with their toxic chemicals and pull in billions of dollars doing so - they must have a fairly strong lobby - down with lobbyists! We need to level the playing field and make them illegal!
  • Jrogers Uranos7 2012/07/17 18:08:55
    Jrogers
    Read the article - I hope it takes off - green living is becoming easier to accomplish - I do wonder how long the home will last - will it last for 45 yrs or so - if so that would really be great - think of all the farmers that could be back in business
  • JonDeniro 2012/04/18 15:07:09
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    JonDeniro
    +3
    If you believe that the true intent of "the war on drugs" is to keep people from using them, then yes, it is an abject failure.

    If you understand that "the war on drugs" has nothing to do with drug use, and everything to do with control of the population and money, then it is a huge success.

    The U.S.A. has 5% of the world's population...and 25% of the world's prison population.
  • bettyboop 2012/04/17 12:59:48
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    bettyboop
    +2
    Until they legalize drugs we will continue to deal with all the crime associated with them, just like in prohibition days.
  • William 2012/04/16 18:10:35
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    William
    +2
    Like all federal interventionist programs, it is a failure with dire unintended consequences.
  • TheTruth1313 2012/04/16 06:52:01 (edited)
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    TheTruth1313
    +2
    It is time to legalize and tax.
  • UrbanHillbilly 2012/04/16 05:43:30
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    UrbanHillbilly
    +2
    Unless, of course, you want to believe that it was actually promote illicit drug use, prostitution, creating a large number of disenfranchised citizens, and promoting prison construction.

    How so? It's really Economics 101. By vigorously enforcing contraband laws, the government creates an artificial shortage. As there is pretty much an unlimitted supply of contraband, it only requires a little entrepreneurial spirit to establish a profitable buisness. As with any buisness, promotion is key, hence drug dealers are called "pushers."

    If you could get 10 rocks of crack for a dollar, the addicts would kill themselves. That is, of course, if anyone would bother selling it.
  • God-Hating Atheist Communist 2012/04/16 03:24:15
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    God-Hating Atheist Communist
    +4
    War on Drugs (1971):
    Result - Failure
    War on Terrorism (2003):
    Result - Marginal pass
    War on Zombies (2012):
    Result - Total Failure
  • Rebel 2012/04/16 02:56:34
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    Rebel
    +5
    Completely and utterly failed policy.

    legalize weed
  • James 2012/04/16 02:42:07
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    James
    +3
    We are NEVER going to win this war. It's been fought for too long and the intentions are counterproductive to actual results.
  • sjalan 2012/04/16 02:05:15
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    sjalan
    +3
    The article speaks for itself. FAILURE
  • Azrael-In GOD we trust 2012/04/16 01:53:57
    Other, please leave a comment
    Azrael-In GOD we trust
    It will always fail, just as there will be no world peace. There's always going to be illegal drug users and always will be idiots who want to kill people.
  • thebarbecuemast 2012/04/16 00:52:52
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    thebarbecuemast
    it never worked because we don't protect our borders
  • Matilda Walton 2012/04/15 23:14:43 (edited)
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    Matilda Walton
    +1
    HAS THE "WAR ON DRUGS FAILED"?............WHY OF COURSE, DO YOU THINK FOR

    ONE MINUTE THAT THE "RULER OF THIS WORLD, SATAN THE DEVIL", 1 JOHN 5:19,

    EPHESIANS 6:11-12, 2 CORINTHIANS 4:4-6, REVELATION 12:3-17, EPHESIANS 2:2,

    IS GOING TO ALLOW SINFUL MANKIND INTERFERE TO INTERFERE WITH HIS,

    "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION"?. WHETHER IT IS SATAN'S "WEAPON OF

    DRUGS, SEXUAL PERVERSION, ALCOHOLISM, GLUTTONY, BLOOD-SHED, DECEIT,

    GREED"..............ALL OF "HIS WEAPONS ARE DESIGNED TO CAUSE THE DEATH OF

    HUMANKIND, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER; AND THAT IS HIS PURPOSE, AND THAT IS

    WHAT HE DOES BEST"........."STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY".....2 CORINTHIANS 2:11,

    JOHN 8:44, JOHN 10:10, HEBREWS 2:14-15, 1 PETER 5:8, GENESIS 3:1-24.

    SATAN THE DEVIL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT "SAVING MANKIND, HE IS ALL ABOUT

    THE DEATH OF MANKIND"......HEBREWS 2:14-15.........."MAN'S CAMPAIGNS OR

    SOCIAL WARFARE AGAINST SATAN THE DEVILS MACHINATIONS, STRATAGEMS OR

    DEVICES, WILL FAIL".............THE DEVIL HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, EVEN

    BEFORE MANKIND WAS CREATED AND SET IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN.

    GENESIS 3:1-24...........SATAN THE DEVIL DOES EXIST AND "ALL THE KINGDOM

    GOVERNMENTS OF THIS DARKENED WORLD AND THE TROUBLE THAT THEY

    EXPERIENCE ARE UNDER HIS CONTROL".......MATTHEW 4:8-11, EPHESIANS 6:1...







































    HAS THE "WAR ON DRUGS FAILED"?............WHY OF COURSE, DO YOU THINK FOR

    ONE MINUTE THAT THE "RULER OF THIS WORLD, SATAN THE DEVIL", 1 JOHN 5:19,

    EPHESIANS 6:11-12, 2 CORINTHIANS 4:4-6, REVELATION 12:3-17, EPHESIANS 2:2,

    IS GOING TO ALLOW SINFUL MANKIND INTERFERE TO INTERFERE WITH HIS,

    "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION"?. WHETHER IT IS SATAN'S "WEAPON OF

    DRUGS, SEXUAL PERVERSION, ALCOHOLISM, GLUTTONY, BLOOD-SHED, DECEIT,

    GREED"..............ALL OF "HIS WEAPONS ARE DESIGNED TO CAUSE THE DEATH OF

    HUMANKIND, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER; AND THAT IS HIS PURPOSE, AND THAT IS

    WHAT HE DOES BEST"........."STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY".....2 CORINTHIANS 2:11,

    JOHN 8:44, JOHN 10:10, HEBREWS 2:14-15, 1 PETER 5:8, GENESIS 3:1-24.

    SATAN THE DEVIL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT "SAVING MANKIND, HE IS ALL ABOUT

    THE DEATH OF MANKIND"......HEBREWS 2:14-15.........."MAN'S CAMPAIGNS OR

    SOCIAL WARFARE AGAINST SATAN THE DEVILS MACHINATIONS, STRATAGEMS OR

    DEVICES, WILL FAIL".............THE DEVIL HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, EVEN

    BEFORE MANKIND WAS CREATED AND SET IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN.

    GENESIS 3:1-24...........SATAN THE DEVIL DOES EXIST AND "ALL THE KINGDOM

    GOVERNMENTS OF THIS DARKENED WORLD AND THE TROUBLE THAT THEY

    EXPERIENCE ARE UNDER HIS CONTROL".......MATTHEW 4:8-11, EPHESIANS 6:11-12,

    REVELATION 13:1-18........AND "SATAN WILL NOT DESTROY SATAN, AND ALL THAT

    SATAN REPRESENTS( SEX, DRUGS, CRIME, DEATH, DISEASES, GLUTTONY, LIES,

    ETC)...........MARK 3:23-27............1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-11.

    MANKIND HAS ATTEMPTED MANY TIMES TO ERADICATE THE RAVAGES OF SIN,

    HE HAS FORMED MANY........."SOCIAL PROGRAMS" IN ORDER TO DO IT, BUT

    NONE HAVE REALLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL, IT IS LIKE PUTTING A "BAND-AID ON

    AN INCURABLE DISEASE".

    BUT THANKS BE TO GOD, THERE IS AWAY THAT "THE WAR ON DRUGS AND ANY

    OTHER WAR AGAINST SINFUL PRACTICES CAN BE WON"........HOWEVER, IT WILL

    TAKE THE "STRENGTH OF SOMEONE WHO IS NOT HUMAN, AND HIS NAME IS

    KING JESUS CHRIST, HE CONQUERED SIN AND DEATH( SATAN THE DEVIL),

    HEBREWS 2:14-15, JOHN 8:44-45. 1 JOHN 3:4-15. KING JESUS CHRIST CAN ADVISE

    THOSE WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT RIDDING THE WORLD OF DRUGS, JUST HOW

    THEY SHOULD GO ABOUT DOING IT, BUT IT REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE "FAITH IN HIM

    AND THE WORD THAT HE SPEAKS, AND TO ACT UPON HIS ADVICE".....JOHN 3:16,

    JAMES 2:17-20, PHILLIPIANS 4:13, COLOSSIANS 1:14-18

    WITH GOD......."ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE, IF YOU PRAY TO GOD IN THE NAME OF

    JESUS FOR DIRECTION".........AND ALL VICES OF ANY MAN CAN BE CAST ASIDE, BE

    IT DRUGS, OR WHATEVER, IN THE NAME OF JESUS.....EPHESIANS 4:17-32,

    HEBREWS 4:14-16.
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  • I Am The Beast Sssotlohiefmjn 2012/04/15 22:56:17
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    I Am The Beast Sssotlohiefmjn
    +3
    It was doomed before it began because it is not moral
  • Broken 2012/04/15 22:43:24
    Other, please leave a comment
    Broken
    I'd like to see research done to create a targeted plant virus that would either kill the plants that these illegal drugs are made from, or render their produce unconsumable by people. That could drastically reduce the supply without the violence currently involved.
  • holly g... Broken 2012/04/16 17:22:25
    holly go lightly
    +3
    The remedy you seek is marijuana.By Planting unhybridized plants ,say as in hemp or any industrial marijuana,Through cross polination the THC would be eradicated. At that point Americans can once again manufacture all things HEMP and compete with the rest of the world in the market of hemp.
    Back in the 80s a herbasite called paraquat was tried on the plant but it was very dangerous to the people that smoked it .
  • Broken holly g... 2012/04/16 17:47:47
    Broken
    Im talking about something that could be introduced into the biosphere that would spread worldwide and eradicate or render useless the plants that produce marijuana, cocain and opiates, What you describe would take the cooperation of lots of people who have a lot to lose financially. What I dream of could be done almost surruptitiously. What government is going to rally people over some strange new diease that is wiping out these illicit crops?
  • holly g... Broken 2012/04/16 18:40:13
    holly go lightly
    +3
    Poison in the biosphere......that sounds great.I would obvioulsly be fool proof and easily kept away from food sources
    Why not do what has been proven to work and could be done without any co operation ,let alone that of lots of people ?
  • Broken holly g... 2012/04/17 02:22:52
    Broken
    +1
    Whatever....I was simply expressing a hope that I seriously doubt anyone would ever really do.

    By the way - viruses and fungi are everywhere. Some are highly lethal to very specific populations, most are merely annoying (cold, flu). Since we are currently using modified viruses to deliver targeted medical therapies in humans, I was fantasizing turning that to this application. In reality I am sure it is extremely complex and no one would likely have the political will to pursue it.
  • holly g... Broken 2012/04/17 15:14:18
    holly go lightly
    +2
    I hope not.we have enough what ifs as it is.
  • Lord Claremorris 2012/04/15 22:20:57
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    Lord Claremorris
    +2
    It is indeed. Drug use has been ever increasing despite it.
  • Raiders757 Lord Cl... 2012/04/16 12:40:39
    Raiders757
    +2
    No, it is not needed. Nobody needs the government telling them how to live. This is supposed ot be a free country damn it. The money being flushed down the toilet to fund this failed war can be put to far better use like education, rehabilitation, and repairing our crumbling infastructure.
  • Lord Cl... Raiders757 2012/04/16 22:59:05
    Lord Claremorris
    +1
    Agreed. I think there should be some efforts to control the substances, since they are very damaging. Make them legal but restrict them. Make them easily available initially, so all the black market dealers go out of business. No point purchasing drugs under the table when you can buy them at Walgreens. After about a month, close it down and restrict sales. While all the time working on addiction treatments to ween people off. I think a lot of the appeal for drugs comes from the very fact that they're illegal. Simply by making them legal I would bet a lot of people would find them less exciting and mysterious, and therefore would refrain from using them.
  • CaptnSassy 2012/04/15 21:19:55
    Yes, it is a failed policy
    CaptnSassy
  • sbtbill CaptnSassy 2012/04/16 06:58:26
    sbtbill
    +3
    As I understand it a group of corporations in the 30's didn't want the competition.
  • CaptnSassy sbtbill 2012/04/16 09:06:07
    CaptnSassy
    +1
    I am no expert by any definition, but what I keep hearing is that it was a 'perfect storm' of greed, hate, and control.
  • 2468 sbtbill 2012/04/18 23:28:33
    2468
    The main guy as I understand it was Hearst. He used his newspapers to do propaganda and his goal was to stop the growth of hemp for paper to protect his pulp timber holdings.

    There was a lot of racism used to scare people away from hemp. People knew it as hemp then and so they used the Spanish name, Marijuana, to confuse the issue.
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