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Has marijuana legalization resulted in more crime or less?

Daryl 2013/08/02 19:52:18
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DENVER — The amount of illegal marijuana from Colorado and seized elsewhere quadrupled in the past few years, according to a report by a network of law enforcement organizations.

The report found that in 2012, there were 274 seizures where the marijuana was destined for other states. In 2005, the number was 54.

The most common destinations for the marijuana were Kansas, Missouri, Illinois and Texas.

The size of the seizures also increased. From 2005 to 2008, the total average number of pounds seized was 2,220. From 2009 to 2012, it increased to 3,937.

Most of the marijuana came from Denver, Boulder and El Paso counties, the report found.

The report also found an increased number of people trying to mail marijuana through the U.S. Postal Service. In 2010, the Postal Service seized 15 packages with marijuana headed out of state. In 2012, they seized 158.

Read More: http://kdvr.com/2013/08/01/report-colorado-now-a-m...

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  • Daryl 2013/08/02 19:53:14
    More crime
    Daryl
    +5
    Marijuana is the top producer of income to Mexican drug cartels and their income has INCREASED since the legalize movement.

    mexican drug cartels

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  • ..::localeye::.. 2013/08/10 12:58:18
    More crime
    ..::localeye::..
    +1
    More crime in the way of trafficking I can believe. Good weed is actually difficult to find on a regular basis. Places like dispensaries that work with nothing but good strains I can see being used in this aspect. I'm not sure what the purchasing weight maximum is but it's not like someone is buying a pound at dispensaries.

    The marijuana laws in this country are ancient and close-minded. The hemp laws are even more idiotic.
  • Nicholas DeShane 2013/08/08 05:04:49 (edited)
    More crime
    Nicholas DeShane
    +2
    Clicked wrong
    Criminalization creates more crime, it was the same for prohibition, it created a black market
  • Charlie 2013/08/04 04:08:42
    More crime
    Charlie
    Since they are opening new shops based on the state law and the Federal laws have not changed. Then yes, there has been an increase since every shop that has opened is technically an illegal enterprise.
  • Mark DeBarbieri 2013/08/03 20:26:43
    More crime
    Mark DeBarbieri
    +1
    I do not think we can truly judge the situation until legalization is nationalized. I think that both the people in Washington State and Colorado went "nuts" and are huffing and puffing, before the law changes again, like what happened in 1972. There is no doubt that if "nationally" it is legalized, will put the illegal importers out of business, which reduce crime from that standpoint. But what would really make a vast difference and moving the economy, would be to make Hemp and the 25,000 products it can make, added to our marketing prowess. In general such a thing would upset "The Matrix" and empower the general population, for which the "Powers That Be" will not stand for very long. Take a long deep look at the last 50 years and you will notice more and more authority is ruling over us. All of which is repugnate to the spirit of our Constitution.
  • Horace 2013/08/03 04:36:23
    More crime
    Horace
    Crime skyrocketed in Alaska after it was legalized in 1973 and Amsterdam recently had to shut down more than 50% of its "coffeeshops" citing their use in organized crime.
  • ..::loc... Horace 2013/08/10 12:52:28
    ..::localeye::..
    The Amsterdam thing intrigued me but I could not find any info on what you are talking about. Can you please post a link to your source. Thanks.

    The only thing really prevalent is the push to make sales to tourist illegal...that only Dutch citizens can purchase weed in coffees shop.
  • Horace ..::loc... 2013/08/10 16:27:27
    Horace
    There has been that movement but there has also been a move to shut them down altogether. This is one example of them shutting down 26 in one blow, citing that all had been involved in bring organized crime to Amsterdam
    http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/...
    Here is another one from 2011 about the shutting down of another 43, reducing the number by an other 34%.
    http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/...
    This is combined with what you rightly pointed out, the banning of them to tourists which has resulted in the shutting down of a good deal more. According to the Dutch government this was once again to stem organized crime. Think about this, if marijuana really is just another business then why after 11 years of legalization are they still busting these places for their links to organized crime? When was the last time you heard of them having to close 26 or 43 McDonald's locations all in one go because they were funding organized crime? Its not widely publicized because the Dutch government still supports the drug industry because of all the money its making them, despite their increase of organized crime.
  • ..::loc... Horace 2013/08/10 16:33:44
    ..::localeye::..
    I'm not disputing it I just didn't know anything about it.

    With anything if regulations are not put in place criminal activity at the top will creep in. Amsterdam is a good model for future countries that decide to put legalization in play.
  • SlaveWaterNymph 2013/08/03 02:57:11
    More crime
    SlaveWaterNymph
    where im at, there have been more crimes....
  • Red Branch 2013/08/03 02:23:44
    More crime
    Red Branch
    I would say that it is too early to tell. However, I did say that if marijuana becomes a legal substance, the cartels will be delivering it.
    If it is legalized and taxed, odds favor the cartels shipping it in legally to the retail market and illegally to sell at a discount because it won't be taxed. Like bootleg cigarettes.
  • FUBO12 2013/08/03 01:17:10
  • Lester 2013/08/03 00:41:32
    Less crime
    Lester
    Since marijuana growers don't report their crop size to the government, no one knows if more or less marijuana is being produced. The cited statistic could just be the result of better law enforcement.

    The real comparison that needs to be made is between the previous number of drug arrests (which are no longer happening because use is now legal) and the increased number of crimes committed by people who are intoxicated. I have no idea what such a comparison would show, but that would actually tell you if crime is increasing or decreasing because of decriminalization.
  • Kirby 2013/08/03 00:07:46
    Less crime
    Kirby
    There would be far less crime if it was legalized at the federal level. Then all the gangbangers and Cartel members would have to find a new line of work!
  • Horace Kirby 2013/08/03 04:37:42
    Horace
    Just like all the blood diamond guerrilla armies of Africa had to find new employment when they legalized diamonds?
  • johnnyg 2013/08/02 20:29:02
    Less crime
    johnnyg
    Except for that dope smoking bitch Obama, he is still a murderous scumbag.
  • j2 2013/08/02 19:59:10
    More crime
    j2
    +2
    Until it's legal at the federal level, it's still illegal. I favor legalization and taxation. Prohibition probably enlarges organized crime activity. However, once you create a monster, killing it off isn't all that easy.
  • Daryl 2013/08/02 19:53:14
    More crime
    Daryl
    +5
    Marijuana is the top producer of income to Mexican drug cartels and their income has INCREASED since the legalize movement.

    mexican drug cartels
  • johnnyg Daryl 2013/08/02 20:30:06
    johnnyg
    +1
    How is making money a crime??
  • FUBO12 johnnyg 2013/08/03 01:20:05
  • johnnyg FUBO12 2013/08/08 16:13:34
    johnnyg
    How about it?? No crimes committed, unless she was raped.
  • FUBO12 johnnyg 2013/08/08 22:41:02
  • johnnyg FUBO12 2013/08/09 16:15:14 (edited)
    johnnyg
    They should not be crimes. Bring a camera make a porno, no crime. The state says some drugs are a crime. Will you quit SodaHead when the state says it is a crime to post?? Next!
  • FUBO12 johnnyg 2013/08/09 22:23:23 (edited)
  • johnnyg FUBO12 2013/08/12 20:07:57
    johnnyg
    You must care, you keep replying. Prostitution and drugs should not be a crime. I don't care if you use prostitutes and do drugs, it is not my business.
  • FUBO12 johnnyg 2013/08/12 22:19:25
  • Jacksane Daryl 2013/08/02 22:39:11 (edited)
    Jacksane
    +3
    All the more reason to take away their source of income by legalizing, regulating, and taxing it at the federal level. Any increase in profit they've made is due to the social movement away from prohibition. The cartels don't make money off of American-grown marijuana.
  • whipnet Daryl 2013/08/04 06:30:10
    whipnet
    +2
    Wrong, it's cocaine by far, it's easier to transport per pound and your payoff is 10 fold.

    And you can hardly get (and no one wants) crappy mexican dirt weed anymore. Only home grown, far superior American product.

    How does legalizing it help the drug cartels? If that was the case we would have a black market from mexico for cigarettes and alcohol. Why would they put up with the risk to compete with legal product?

    case black market mexico cigarettes alcohol risk compete legal product

    http://www.washingtonpost.com...

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  • ..::loc... Daryl 2013/08/10 12:46:41 (edited)
    ..::localeye::..
    You have nothing to back that claim up unfortunately. Also as someone that smokes weed no way would that Mexican garbage surpass the weed grown for legalization/medical purposes...not even on the same level.

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