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Guy Shoots Himself While Driving: Should Loaded Guns Be Allowed in Cars?

SodaHead News 2011/08/24 21:39:10
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No, this isn't a highway shootout story. Just a really irresponsible guy with a loaded gun in his car.

A 23-year-old man reportedly shot himself in the leg with a .410 Taurus Judge revolver on Wednesday while driving on a Tennessee highway.

MSNBC writes that he called police "wailing in pain" and asking for medical attention. When police arrived, they found Justin Newberry pulled up to the highway medium with a bullet just above his left ankle.

It went clean through his right thigh.

According to police reports, Newberry's gun slid out from under his seat after he slammed hard on the brakes -- and then he accidentally pulled the trigger when he reached down to pick it up.

Cops also found marijuana and "drug paraphernalia" in his vehicle, and The Daily Mail notes he had "multiple forms of identification," making the man's identity somewhat questionable.

He's said to be in stable condition, but the police do have criminal charges pending against him.

Hopefully next time he'll remember where the trigger is when he picks up his gun.

The incident brings up an interesting side of the gun control debate, which is keeping loaded guns in your vehicle. Freak accidents like this don't happen often, but it's frightening when they do, and it makes many question the circumstances.

Should this guy have been able to keep a loaded gun under his seat like that in the first place?
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  • Adam McMahon 2011/12/19 22:14:25
    Yes
    Adam McMahon
    +2
    Yes. They should design dashboard mounts for loaded guns. That way you won't have to fumble with one while you're driving like cellphones.
  • 4570GOVT Adam Mc... 2011/12/22 16:33:35
    4570GOVT
    +1
    They Do ! ( sort of ) They make " car holsters " that fit on the left side of the driver where the seat belt is . The gun is Out Of Sight when the door is closed yet easy to reach " safely " anytime .
  • 4570GOVT 2011/11/08 19:14:00
    Yes
    4570GOVT
    +1
    If you have a clean record and are otherwise allowed to carry a weapon , you should ABSOLUTELY be allowed to carry in your car !
  • Flowers 2011/10/07 14:30:06
    Yes
    Flowers
    +2
    just because some idiot doesn't know how to handle a gun, doesn't mean the rest of the country should have to suffer. The punishment was appropriate for being irresponsible, now his leg is going to be a friendly reminder.
  • Timetraveler 2011/10/06 12:51:49
    Yes
    Timetraveler
    +1
    gees there pretty useless without the bullets. because some idiot shot himself is never a good reason to disarm the rest of the population. it's like when Thomas Edison invented the light bulb, he believed we should use 12 volts dc to power the world instead of 110 volts ac. simply because 110 can kill. any malcontent can kill another person, with a gun, a fork, a knife, a pillow, etc
  • Link Timetra... 2011/10/06 16:20:06
    Link
    +1
    Yep! Plastic knives and forks for picnics and other events should now be illegal to carry in your car... lol...
  • NA 2011/09/13 17:10:25
    No
    NA
    Loaded guns no, but you can keep ammunition with an unloaded gun. put it in the trunk or glove box (size dependant), with some ammunition and there you go, if you need it, its there but it wont accidentaly shoot you.
  • Justbel... NA 2011/09/14 13:35:51
    Justbelowme
    +2
    So when someone sticks a shotgun in your face and says "i'm going to blow your head off" are you going to say "Hold on a minute while i retrieve and load my gun"??
  • NA Justbel... 2011/09/14 14:56:06
    NA
    good point, fine loaded in a cealed and lockable compartment, like a glovebox
  • Justbel... NA 2011/09/14 21:41:21
    Justbelowme
    +1
    So you have negated half of your previous equation (loading) but you are still going to spend far too much time retrieving. I believe if you are exiting the vehicle, and not carrying the gun then yes, certainly lock the hell out of that gun. But if you are in your car, it should be somewhere safe, but easily accessible in a pinch. They make holsters specifically made to attach to a vehicle's seat, also they can be mounted under the dash, and pretty much anywhere, the key here is to not have a loaded weapon rolling around your car. It should be secure but accessible. I typically have my weapon on my person at all times,. so even driving down the road its accessible on my hip. Is this maximum accessability? no not really, but it beats unlocking a glove box or something.
  • NA Justbel... 2011/09/14 22:31:02
    NA
    true, however i live a country without this problem so ya, but how about just using the safety on the gun so it wont shoot.
  • Justbel... NA 2011/09/15 18:09:47
    Justbelowme
    +1
    Which would be fine. In this particular case, the Taurus Judge in .45LC/.410 does not have a "safety switch" it does have a locking mechanism that you would use a key for built in, but again now you are having to stop and "unlock" your gun. When operating the handgun in a double action configuration, the heavy trigger pull acts as its own "safety". An 8 - 12 lb trigger is not easily discharged accidentally.
  • Algor. ... Justbel... 2011/09/24 07:07:41
    Algor. Mortis. - ҎԊǢɬ Physician
    Does this happen to you often?
  • Justbel... Algor. ... 2011/09/26 15:28:35
    Justbelowme
    Not really. Only about once a week. Much less frequently than in the past!!
  • Lizzy 2011/09/09 19:17:52
    Yes
    Lizzy
    Yes if you live in a country where a gun is needed, i do think people who own a gun should be trained to use one properly before thy`re allowed to possess one.
  • 4570GOVT Lizzy 2011/11/08 18:47:41
    4570GOVT
    +1
    They USUALLY ARE ............ trained by law .
  • Lizzy 4570GOVT 2011/11/08 19:02:43
    Lizzy
    That`s good, we are`nt allowed guns over here in the UK, if people have them they are not usually registered, unless they have a permit for a shooting club etc. Farmers used to have guns at one time, not many do now though.
  • 4570GOVT Lizzy 2011/11/08 19:43:10
    4570GOVT
    +1
    It is a CRIME , what has happened to the U.K. and I am sure Winston Churchill would be rolling in his grave to see what the U.K. has DONE TO ITSELF . He thought that every able bodied , law abiding citizen should be armed . Those Farmers you speak of cannot defend their life now days . The criminals who rob and kill ( with their own illegal guns ) are treated as victims and the Armed Farmer with an old shotgun is locked away in prison and his farm confiscated for defending himself ! I really feel for the subjects ( formerly citizens ) of your country since the Socialist/Liberal Idiots came to power .
  • Lizzy 4570GOVT 2011/11/08 19:58:43
    Lizzy
    +1
    It`s not just socialist liberals, they are more like conservatives these days + have been for a long time, Conservative governments after the war allowed an influx of cheap labour into the country + it`s never been stopped, that`s why we have such a problem now with immigration. It was the Conservatives who were in favor of the EU, but many of the Labour party support our membership of the EU, we are basically being ruled by the EU, we are loosing our own culture + have been for years, Churchill promised much to everyone but men came back from the war to NOTHING, the same thing happened after WW1. We need a completely new set of politicians, to get the country back to some sort of normality, All we have is all this PC crap+ as you say we cant even defend ourselves. So much work has gone to the East " Cheaper Labour over there ", The West has played right into the hands of the East. Madness Reigns.
  • 4570GOVT Lizzy 2011/11/08 23:22:59
    4570GOVT
    +1
    ........................ yes it does . I hope we can avoid your fate .
  • Rachel 2011/09/06 17:07:04
    Yes
    Rachel
    +2
    You think that if I'm getting attacked in my vehicle that I can just ask the attacker to wait one sec while I load my gun so that I can shoot them?

    No.

    How absurd.
  • Link Rachel 2011/09/06 23:58:55
    Link
    +2
    agreed!!!!!!
  • gidianedwards97 2011/09/05 05:32:27
    No
    gidianedwards97
    no no no no no no no no no no.no no.cause now you can't fix stupid.
  • Link gidiane... 2011/09/06 23:59:32
    Link
    +2
    Stupid tried to fix himself, but missed...
  • Rachel Link 2011/09/07 01:18:49
    Rachel
    That would have been a funny Darwin Award. I mean, I'm glad the guy is alright, but geez... Let's hope that next time he pays attention.
  • xifidieyoung 2011/09/03 17:07:46
    Yes
    xifidieyoung
    +3
    The fact that this question even has to be asked is ridiculous.
  • Link xifidie... 2011/09/03 20:48:05
    Link
    +1
    right you are... don't even consider taking away others rights because of one idiot now and then...
  • ♠Jen♠ BN - 0 2011/09/03 05:10:44 (edited)
    Yes
    ♠Jen♠ BN - 0
    +2
    To use a famous quote:



    "Do guns scare you?"



    "No, guns have their uses. Idiots with guns scare me."



    This idiot should've never had a gun to begin with. However, I don't care how strict the requirements are, even if guns are only given to military and law enforcement officers, you can't screen out all the morons.



    Sounds like the guy was lucky and had that Judge loaded with a .45 round though... because he'd've been in a lot more pain if he had a .410 shell or a PDX round in it. Although, I'm not sure how you could manage to pull the trigger of a Judge without realizing it... it takes quite a bit of pressure to fire one of those suckers.
  • Link ♠Jen♠ B... 2011/09/03 13:42:16
    Link
    Wow, I'm impressed... sounds like you know about such things... admittedly, you certainly know a lot more than I.
  • ♠Jen♠ B... Link 2011/09/08 17:12:04
    ♠Jen♠ BN - 0
    +1
    I was raised around guns, and so knowing how to handle them responsibly comes second nature.

    As for knowing about the Judge specifically, my ex owns one, and I was determined to learn everything I could about it. Since the idiot who managed to shoot himself in the leg had only one bullet lodged in him, it could only be a .45 round he had in it, as .410, .410 magnum, and PDX rounds all have several BB's, and in the case of the PDX rounds, they have three slugs to go with it.

    I also fired it a few times, but found it to be a handgun that was too large in both size and caliber for me. As to how that man managed to shoot himself "accidentally" when the gun would've had to be a considerable distance off the floorboard of the car to put a bullet through his thigh and into the opposite ankle, is beyond me.
  • Link ♠Jen♠ B... 2011/09/08 18:58:47
    Link
    I grew up around and with guns too... but such as the Gloc we know today, the Baretta, and such weren't around... I'm more familiar with plain old S & W, Colt, Winchester, Ruger, British Enfield... hanguns, rifles and shotguns...

    I dated, years ago, a girl who's father was a gun dealer [legal, lol]... I've shot muzzle-loader pistols and rifles, old Thompson's ["Tommy guns"], an Uzi or two, a Herrit [sp?] and more...
  • ♠Jen♠ B... Link 2011/09/11 09:18:21
    ♠Jen♠ BN - 0
    +1
    Several of those guns I haven't had the opportunity to fire. Mostly I know about hunting rifles and shotguns since I live in a hunting community, but I do know about a few handguns, mostly the Glock .40, a Beretta .22, and the .410 Judge. I have a little knowledge of a few others, but not enough to go out on the range with them without having someone more experienced with the weapon with me.
  • Preside... ♠Jen♠ B... 2011/09/06 14:28:44
    President Camacho
    +1
    If only military and law enforcement legally possess firearms, we are defenseless against criminals. Every American has the responsibility to defend his / her family. The police can't protect you. They might catch the rapist / murderer after the crime, but the police don't prevent crime.
  • ♠Jen♠ B... Preside... 2011/09/08 16:53:41
    ♠Jen♠ BN - 0
    +1
    Which is along the lines of my comment about only allowing only law enforcement and military to carry weapons. Many people are for such a law because there are idiots in the world like the moron that managed to shoot himself with the Judge... but like I said, no matter how stringent the gun laws are, idiots like him will always be able to get their hands on a firearm.

    And I completely agree with you... the First, Second, Fifteenth and Nineteenth Amendments are my favorites... and I am 110% for the citizen's right to bear arms.
  • Preside... ♠Jen♠ B... 2011/09/09 12:54:18
    President Camacho
    +1
    Your statement is contradictory. If you want only law enforcement and military to carry weapons then you are 100% against the second amendment. The second amendment guarantees all of our other rights.
  • ♠Jen♠ B... Preside... 2011/09/11 09:07:02 (edited)
    ♠Jen♠ BN - 0
    +1
    How am I contradicting myself? I'm saying the argument that only military or law enforcement should have firearms because America is full of idiots is null and void. I'm completely for the Second Amendment, and I own the firearms to prove it. Perhaps my meaning has become scrambled over the internet... it wouldn't be the first time.

    Edit: And to reply to your original comment, I know that everyone has the responsibility to protect themselves and their loved ones from criminals, and it's also why I will never give up my firearms. As you said, we wouldn't be able to protect ourselves from criminals without them.
  • Preside... ♠Jen♠ B... 2011/09/11 13:05:50
    President Camacho
    I re-read your comments, I see you are not against the God given right to protect oneself.
  • 4570GOVT ♠Jen♠ B... 2011/11/08 19:09:22
    4570GOVT
    BRAVO !
  • 4570GOVT Preside... 2011/11/08 19:08:32
    4570GOVT
    TRUE !
  • 4570GOVT ♠Jen♠ B... 2011/11/08 19:06:07
    4570GOVT
    You Are Correct ! His Story Is Full Of Holes ( like his foot ) . The " ONLY WAY " for it to GO OFF would be if it were cocked . You see this is a DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER and you " NEVER " carry a revolver COCKED ! This would mean that the guy is a complete idiot .
    " IF " the gun were NOT cocked ( Double Action Mode ) it would take a noticable effort to pull the trigger through , revolving the cylinder , cocking the hammer and firing the weapon . THIS COULD HAVE " NOT " HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE GUN IN THE HOLSTER . " IF IT WERE COCKED " , it could have went off with a touch of the trigger ( Single Action ) . In this case the guy was a MORON !
    The VAST MAJORITY of people who carry legally are NOT STUPID like this clown . It is Clearly His Own Fault !
    MOST people with a C.C.W. receive training and the card is issued by your local sheriff . ( some states do not ) .
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