Guy Carries Gun Open And Legal, Cites Law & Cops Backdown

by doofiegirl POTL~PWCM~JLA Posted 2012/06/23 10:08:24

Related Topics: Credit, Police, Crime, Firearm, Video, Maine, Gun, Nevada, Suspicion, Cop, Id

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In an incredible video a man is stopped for carrying a firearm openly and legally in Portland Maine. To his credit, Portland PD officer J. McDonald, was polite. However, He was dead wrong to have stopped the man in question. The conversation was straightforward and not heated, which is how it should be, though this conversation should have never happened since it was not illegal for the man to be carrying his weapon. Watch as this gentleman cites specific case law and engages a police officer politely and goes on his way in an area that is perfectly legal for him to carry his weapon openly.

Finally without reasonable suspicion of committing a crime, the officer then asks for the man’s ID which violates Hiibel v Nevada.

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WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/23 18:45:58

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Why didn't the cop know the law?
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none 2012/06/25 18:41:40

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It's very good to see that the police didn't overreact for a change. Good men!

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Selketskiss 2012/06/25 17:35:55 (edited)

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Police feel they do not need to know the law they are they law.. do as I say and obey..

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the jud... to Selkets... 2012/06/27 19:45:57

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Yes there are some that think that they can write them { The Laws} as they see em.

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Selkets... to the jud... 2012/06/27 20:33:14 (edited)

Glad you understood I did not mean all police, some on here are very picky about...wording

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the jud... to Selkets... 2012/06/27 20:35:37 (edited)

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I worked around police before. Some are uptight & to the book or all macho,but some are loose & you talk about anything.

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Selkets... to the jud... 2012/06/27 20:46:34

True, I was married to one for many years..it is a mixed bag of personalities plus if they are in a bad mood the public will suffer..LOL

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the jud... to Selkets... 2012/06/27 20:50:24

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Yep I worked with a few. then was told about afew.

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Old Timer 2012/06/25 14:05:33

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Good man

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Mike 2012/06/24 18:38:01

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More and more control

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Charles E 2012/06/24 13:57:19

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So sad that even the people in charge of enforcing the law think all guns are Illegal.

Except in Illinois where for almost all ordinary citizens they are.

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Charlie 2012/06/24 05:33:05

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Good Lord. You can only call this harrassment. A state where it is legal to carry, the cops should and do know the law.

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Technotrucker_exposingthetruth 2012/06/24 04:12:27

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People are so gullible to believe that cops know the law. I have argued this case with many people. Most cops are given a crash course in Statute law, and most are clueless as to what real law is. The only defense against illegal search or seizure is knowing the local and state laws.

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Selkets... to Technot... 2012/06/25 17:28:38

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Clueless and they do not give a crap, in their minds what they say goes...obey or go to jail, tell me what I want to know or go to jail..

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Technot... to Selkets... 2012/06/27 00:17:36

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A few lawsuits against them for oppression by color can rectify that. It will become very costly for them to not know the law then.

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Selkets... to Technot... 2012/06/27 01:35:39

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True but we always here "our officers acted appropriately" for the situation. Look what they did to the motorcycle dude with the helmet cam on Memorial weekend. Totally out of line and they made up ..we can not read your tag..all because they wanted his camera from his helmet, he was arrested.

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Technot... to Selkets... 2012/06/27 02:30:57 (edited)

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That is typical oppression. Time for the state police to be called in and a lawsuit filed. I was an attempted victim recently myself in GA. Next time they attempt a search, it will be supervised by a Federal Marshall, and they will be asked to leave the scene completely. Knowing your rights is half the battle. The other half is educating them through costly judgements .

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Selkets... to Technot... 2012/06/27 17:58:34

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Watch out for the GOBs (good old boys) in GA if you get the wrong cop you will be in trouble esp at night...no one around. I lived there for several years traveled to many of the towns across that state.. but I know there are towns in that state that look just for tags from out of town..

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Technot... to Selkets... 2012/06/28 06:24:09

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I am aware. I come prepared. ;o)

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Child of light 2012/06/24 00:26:52

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This police officer just got owned.

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Selkets... to Child o... 2012/06/25 17:39:35

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If this guy did not have that cell camera he would have been thrown to the ground and arrested..

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Muriel 2012/06/23 22:04:04

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Glad the police understood and let the man go.

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doofieg... to Muriel 2012/06/24 11:23:11

http://www.sodahead.com/fun/o...

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Charles E to Muriel 2012/06/24 13:58:32

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But he should have never been stopped.

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TheTruth1313 2012/06/23 21:49:22

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If he's following the law than he should be left alone.

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Kurbdog 2012/06/23 21:25:40

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Most cops these days are just gangbangers with badges...............he is lucky the "police officer" didnt just shoot him in the back and claim he felt "threatened"!

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Selkets... to Kurbdog 2012/06/25 17:44:18

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Yes he is lucky they did not club him or zap him...

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Patriot Unit 2012/06/23 21:13:59

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Well, he may have been asleep when Constitutional Carry was being discussed. Whatever his reason, and whatever reason he had for stopping this Honest Gun Carrying Citizen he was wrong on more than one issue.

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KingdomNow 2012/06/23 20:56:46

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We need armed citizens more than we need police.

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Rabbit 2012/06/23 20:56:37

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There's not enough information to make an informed reply to this post. But it goes to show the public parranoia against guns. I can't understand it, a bad guy will not reveal a weapon untill they are ready to use it for no good. The good guys and gals, "open carry" and so detter crime. But I see the cop's possition, though he handled it badly. He was called in by a concerned citizen and so has the right to investigate. Just not enough information...is the gun to be carried in an empty condition? Is the magazine or the shells to be carried in a sepparate pocket? Is there a permit involved? The cop had a right to check on these conditions...only because he was on a specific call about a gun.

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mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/06/23 20:02:49

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These local police departments have to train their officers to know the law and not try to act like some fake cop on TV

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Ken 2012/06/23 19:30:12

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Awesome, but how many people are harrassed like this without cause?

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olylift 2012/06/23 19:12:07

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Giving it back to the pigs. I appreciate.

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doofieg... to olylift 2012/06/23 20:02:28

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The word is police or cops

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Kurbdog to doofieg... 2012/06/23 21:29:42

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They don't deserve respect anymore. How about "swine"?

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doofieg... to Kurbdog 2012/06/23 23:35:06

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The police in our town , at least, are very good men and women! I respect everyone of them I know!

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Kurbdog to doofieg... 2012/06/23 23:58:11

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I also dislike the I.R.S. , A.T.F. ,and process servers.The only ones these people serve is themselves."law enforcement' USED to be an honorable profession.It's not anymore, they are now gang members like in any other gang.I respect firefighters and our military ,cops.................not so much.

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olylift to doofieg... 2012/06/23 22:17:20

Semantics shemantics.

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Patric 2012/06/23 19:06:45

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tough call, for me...
as a CCL in two states, I have concealed carry some times...
while in Az. I open carry ,
I felt more comfortable open carry in Az. than I do conceal carry in Pa. the police ( some , not all ) do not either know the law or blantly disregard the law and stop an open carry ,

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WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/23 18:45:58

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Why didn't the cop know the law?

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Patric to WhereIs... 2012/06/23 19:01:52

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not sure, seems that question needs to be answered by the officer's supervisor...

now, I would like to defend the police officer ( even though it is an undefendable position ) there are so many laws, so many intrepetations of the laws , new laws every year coming out.

not that that is an execuse for his ignorance , but it may be the reason..

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