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Guns Stop Crime 6-30-12: Lancaster store clerk shoots at bandits during hold-up

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Lancaster store clerk shoots at
bandits during hold-up



By BRETT HAMBRIGHT, Lancaster

6/30/2012






A Lancaster city store clerk pulled a
gun of his own and fired at a pair of armed robbers early Saturday
morning, police reported.



One robber, 30-year-old Rodney Green, was shot in the chest and is
receiving treatment at area hospitals, according to officials.


He underwent life-saving surgeries and is scheduled for further
procedures, officials said.


The other man fled on foot and is being sought this morning.
Police didn't immediately release a description of the man.


Two armed men in masks entered Andromeda Grocery Store at 158 S.
Queen St. at 12:30 a.m. and demanded money, police reported.


During the course of the robbery, the store clerk, a man in his
30s, pulled a gun and fired, police said. Officials said that the
clerk was in legal possession of the gun.


The clerk's name wasn't released.


Green, of Steelton, was hit in the chest, police said.


Investigators wouldn't say whether either robber fired or how many
shots the clerk fired.


Green was to be transported to another hospital, but police asked
that location not be disclosed for safety reasons.


Detectives recovered Green's gun at the store, Det. Sgt. Nathan
Nickel reported.


The other robber ran off when his accomplice was hit,
investigators reported.


Green is charged with felony robbery, conspiracy, and a felony gun
charge for illegally possessing the weapon.


He will be arraigned on the charges following his release from the
hospital.


No one else was hurt.


The small, corner store was closed following the incident Saturday
morning as detectives gathered evidence and spoke to potential
witnesses.


There was no immediate word on if and when it will re-open.


The busy corner store often stays one late at night, especially on
weekends, officials said.

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A dream where instead of reading
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bloated and floating in a river, the story reads, “dead jackass found
double-tapped and dead on the curb as his soul wings its way to hell,
all because he messed with the wrong mama.”
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  • DeborahLakeHelen 2012/07/05 21:25:44
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    DeborahLakeHelen
    +5
    BOTH of the above. The clerk never should have stopped after landing the first shot. Now the thug will have the opportunity to come back on him, or maybe victimize someone else.

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  • ThinkAboutIt! 2012/07/09 05:40:01
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    ThinkAboutIt!
    +1
    Guns save lives!
  • Outta' Here. 2012/07/06 17:59:28
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    Outta' Here.
    +1
    This is why you have a cup of coffee and a cigarette and THEN call the ambulance.
  • Marvelo... Outta' ... 2012/07/06 18:40:13
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    I LIKE IT!
  • Outta' ... Marvelo... 2012/07/06 18:42:48
    Outta' Here.
    +1
    I have no problem watching someone I just had to shoot, to save myself, bleed out.
  • none 2012/07/06 16:21:01
    Why couldn't he simply have died like victims are supposed to do?
    none
    +1
    He should have shot him again that way the robber will NEVER come back and can't sue him either.
  • Marvelo... none 2012/07/06 17:35:05
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    And Society would have been made a better place!
  • none Marvelo... 2012/07/06 17:39:36
    none
    +1
    Better and safer as well.
  • Charles E 2012/07/06 15:53:37
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    Charles E
    +2
    Plus how sad that the hospital and taxpayers will be paying the entire bill to keep this POS alive. Health insurance is not a fringe benefit for criminals.
  • Ken 2012/07/06 15:40:14
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    Ken
  • Nimitz 2012/07/06 15:27:10
    Undecided
    Nimitz
    +1
    I'm not 'happy' when anyone gets shot, but I'm happy as hell that we still live in a land which respects the human right to self defense.
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/07/06 15:27:02
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    cmdrbnd007
    +1
    And yet you can almost be certain that there is some group that will use this to try and get more gun control laws on the books.
  • Marvelo... cmdrbnd007 2012/07/06 18:24:52
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Of course.
    But I fear many people would do the same thing, if it were them.

    Take the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
    This group was named after President Reagan's Press Secretary James Brady.
    James Brady made *MILLIONS* of dollars after he was shot in a “Gun-Free Zone”.
    Then every time someone was killed in a “Gun-Free Zone”, the Bradys made *MILLIONS* of dollars more by dancing in the blood of the victims to drum up even more money.
    They are so dedicated to making money of the deaths of unarmed victims in “Gun-Free Zones”; When Vice-Principal Joel Myrick, ran off campus and retrieved his gun, that he used to *STOP* the Pearl High School massacre, the Bradys demanded that he be prosecuted for *VIOLATING THE “GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONE” LAW*!
    Lately, they have been parading around a Virginia Tech “Gun-Free Zones” survivor, having him tell how terrible it was when Cho came in shooting. Yet they neglect to point out that the shooting was only made possible because the victims were *UNARMED*.
  • Kat ♪ ~BTO-t-BCRA-F~ ♪ 2012/07/06 15:24:03
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    Kat ♪ ~BTO-t-BCRA-F~ ♪
    +1
    More of them need to get shot, it would make some think twice before committing a crime.
    Anybody see the stupid on the news with the fake gun his mommy took from him and got him out of there?
    http://www.nydailynews.com/ne...
  • PoliticallyIncorrect 2012/07/06 15:02:26
    Undecided
    PoliticallyIncorrect
    +3
    Immediate justice saves the courts and taxpayers money. I'm all for saving money.
  • Marvelo... Politic... 2012/07/06 18:25:54
    Marvelous Wildfire
    JUSTICE! Served Hot-N-Fresh!
  • Politic... Marvelo... 2012/07/06 19:45:13
  • ☆ElenaDiamond☆ 2012/07/06 15:00:53
    Undecided
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +2
    I will never wish for a persons death. . However I think it is necessary and right that law abiding citizens have guns. While I don't lament the fact the robber lived, I applaud the store owner for doing what he had to do, and I am sorry that the robber couldn't stop his life of crime before he got shot, and perhaps he will think better next time. I am also glad the store owner didn't have to face the vilification that would surely come if the man had died.
  • Maddog 2012/07/06 14:55:37
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    Maddog
    +3
    I'm shocked that the wounded robber was carrying an unregistered firearm! LOL!
  • april 2012/07/06 11:49:37
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    april
    +3
    I'm sorry, but I am not going to ever believe my safety can rely on the "slim to none chance" of any type of so-called rehabilitation tactics working. I mean, come on, the majority of convicted armed robbers that make parole are back in prison a few days after they are released...and usually for the same offense, or murder on top of armed robbery that time around....unless a clerk is finally lucky enough to get rid of the re offender for good!
  • Marvelo... april 2012/07/06 14:24:27
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

    But it doesn't stop there, here is just a few examples of what the courts have ruled:
    Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 616 (7th Cir. 1982) (no federal constitutional requirement that police provide protection)

    Calogrides v. Mobile, 475 So. 2d 560 (Ala. 1985); Cal Govt. Code 845 (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Calogrides v. Mobile, 846 (no liability for failure to arrest or to retain arrested person in custody)

    Davidson v. Westminster, 32 Cal.3d 197, 185, Cal. Rep. 252; 649 P.2d 894 (1982) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Stone v. State 106 Cal.App.3d 924, 165 Cal Rep. 339 (1980) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Morgan v. District of Columbia, 468 A.2d 1306 (D.C.App. 1983) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C.App 1981) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Sapp v. Tallahassee, 348 So.2d 363 (Fla. App. 1st Dist.), cert. denied 354 So.2d 985 (Fla. 1977); Ill. Rec. Stat. 4-102 (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Keane v. Chicago, 98 Ill. App.2d 460, 240 N.E.2d 321 (1st Dist. 1968) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Jamison v. Chicago, 48 Ill. App. 3d 567 (1st Dist. 1977) (no l...







    BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

    But it doesn't stop there, here is just a few examples of what the courts have ruled:
    Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 616 (7th Cir. 1982) (no federal constitutional requirement that police provide protection)

    Calogrides v. Mobile, 475 So. 2d 560 (Ala. 1985); Cal Govt. Code 845 (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Calogrides v. Mobile, 846 (no liability for failure to arrest or to retain arrested person in custody)

    Davidson v. Westminster, 32 Cal.3d 197, 185, Cal. Rep. 252; 649 P.2d 894 (1982) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Stone v. State 106 Cal.App.3d 924, 165 Cal Rep. 339 (1980) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Morgan v. District of Columbia, 468 A.2d 1306 (D.C.App. 1983) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C.App 1981) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Sapp v. Tallahassee, 348 So.2d 363 (Fla. App. 1st Dist.), cert. denied 354 So.2d 985 (Fla. 1977); Ill. Rec. Stat. 4-102 (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Keane v. Chicago, 98 Ill. App.2d 460, 240 N.E.2d 321 (1st Dist. 1968) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Jamison v. Chicago, 48 Ill. App. 3d 567 (1st Dist. 1977) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Simpson's Food Fair v. Evansville, 272 N.E.2d 871 (Ind. App.) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Silver v. Minneapolis, 170 N.W.2d 206 (Minn. 1969) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Wuetrich V. Delia, 155 N.J. Super. 324, 326, 382, A.2d 929, 930 cert. denied 77 N.J. 486, 391 A.2d 500 (1978) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)

    Chapman v. Philadelphia, 290 Pa. Super. 281, 434 A.2d 753 (Penn. 1981) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)Morris v. Musser, 84 Pa. Cmwth. 170, 478 A.2d 937 (1984) (no liability for failure to provide police protection)
    (more)
  • april Marvelo... 2012/07/06 14:48:32 (edited)
    april
    +2
    THANK YOU!!! Also, thanks again for the examples of court rulings...I love having those to reference for more details about these kinds of topics!
  • Marvelo... april 2012/07/06 14:53:09
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    You are most welcome!
  • ScoutLdr 2012/07/06 08:34:20
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    ScoutLdr
    +4
    A dead thief is an less litigious one as well. "States with the largest increases in gun ownership also have the largest drops in violent crimes. Thirty-one states now have such laws—called "shall-issue" laws. These laws allow adults the right to carry concealed handguns if they do not have a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness."~John R. Lott, Jr. More Guns  Less Crime  Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws

  • Marvelo... ScoutLdr 2012/07/06 14:29:13
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    You left out, what to me, is a VERY improtant point: The fine book "More Guns, Less Crime" started out as a book using statistics and factual evidence to *PROVE* the *HARM* guns *CAUSE*.
  • Charles E Marvelo... 2012/07/06 16:21:53
    Charles E
    +1
    Kind of takes the teeth out of gun banners trying to call it a biased source.
  • Schläue~© 2012/07/05 21:59:00
    How very sad that the Emergency Medical Response team was so quick. A DEAD ro...
    Schläue~©
    +3
    Using a firearm during the commission of a crime in CA. should get him life w/o parole.
    I'm hoping that bystanders prevented the store clerck from firing at the second noob.

    Also, if the guy had tuned and ran the clerk may have been facing charges himself.
    All in all.... good job.
  • ScoutLdr Schläue~© 2012/07/06 08:29:16
    ScoutLdr
    +2
    This happened in Lancaster City, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, not California.
  • DeborahLakeHelen 2012/07/05 21:25:44
    Undecided
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +5
    BOTH of the above. The clerk never should have stopped after landing the first shot. Now the thug will have the opportunity to come back on him, or maybe victimize someone else.
  • Marvelo... Deborah... 2012/07/05 21:30:43
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +3
    ABSOLUTELY!
    Many feel that the shooting should stop when the assailant attempts to leave.
    But what *NEXT TIME* and about my elderly neighbor, who might not be as skilled or prepared?
    If the criminal dies during our encounter, my neighbor will be safe from him.
  • Deborah... Marvelo... 2012/07/05 22:47:49
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +5
    I support that 200%. I was raised to empty my weapon into the criminal(s), reload, survey the situation, make sure that the injuries are fatal, and then and only then dial 911. The MAJORITY of those in law enforcement agree with that. I'm not having some loser-thug take me away from the family I adore.
  • Marvelo... Deborah... 2012/07/06 05:15:57
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +4
    You said it well!
    Gunner s Prayer
  • Deborah... Marvelo... 2012/07/06 12:23:35
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +2
    Oh that is just awesome! I had to c&p that for future use! Here's one of my hunting permits, and a target I tore up. lol

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  • Marvelo... Deborah... 2012/07/06 14:35:52 (edited)
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    Very nice!
    I like them!
    THANK YOU for sharing!
    (I wouldn't let me rave your post)
  • Deborah... Marvelo... 2012/07/07 00:43:24
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +1
    Thank YOU, and you're welcome!
  • Kat ♪ ~... Deborah... 2012/07/06 15:27:59
  • Deborah... Kat ♪ ~... 2012/07/07 00:45:19
  • Kat ♪ ~... Marvelo... 2012/07/06 15:27:21
  • Deborah... Kat ♪ ~... 2012/07/07 00:45:51
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +2
    NICE! I'll take one of each, please.
  • ScoutLdr Marvelo... 2012/07/06 08:38:33
    ScoutLdr
    +3
    No, really depends on your local laws. In some jurisdictions shooting felons in back as they flee will get you arrested, convicted and imprisoned.
  • Deborah... ScoutLdr 2012/07/06 12:25:07
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +3
    Others will shake your hand, hug you and give you a pat on the back.

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