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GUNS NOW KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN CARS IN TEN STATES.

luvguins 2012/05/31 20:57:21
Not that the president has ever said he wanted to take hand guns away since becoming president, the NRA, only a lobby for the firearms industry, loves to continue the demagoguery of him, and create laws making it easier for gun yahoos to use their prized possessions. Not working out so well now, but small varmit hunter, Romney, tells them the insanity can continue.

By Richard Schiffman:



The recent killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman in a gated community in Florida has reignited the controversy over gun violence in America.


Whether the shooting was an act of self-defense, as Zimmerman’s lawyer claims, or murder plain and simple has been left to a jury to decide. But clearly it never would have happened if the possession of handguns were illegal, or severely restricted, as it is in Europe, where per-capita gun deaths are only one seventh of what they are in the U.S.


Gun fatalities have been on the rise– slowly but steadily every year since 2002, according to a National Institute of Justice survey. In 1975, 60 percent of the homicides in the U.S. were committed using a handgun. By 2005 that number had shot up to nearly 80 percent, with the rise in gang related gun killings even steeper.


This trend gives the lie to the NRA claim that easy access to guns does not pose a danger to Americans. It does. The more handguns there are out there, the more likely they will be used to commit a violent crime. Last year 31,593 Americans were killed by handguns. In addition, over 40 thousand were injured in nonlethal gun attacks, leaving some victims crippled for life.


Compare these appalling casualty figures to the slightly over 1000 U.S. Armed Service personnel and private contractors who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan during the same period. Clearly we gun-toting Americans are our own worst enemies. The violence that we perpetrate on one another with handguns is more than 30 times as deadly than the attacks of Al Qaeda and the Taliban combined!


Not only that, but in ten states (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Michigan, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Virginia and Washington) you are more likely to be killed by a gun than in a car accident, according to an analysis just released by the advocacy group, the Violence Policy Center (VPC).


This is surprising given that 90 percent of U.S households have cars, whereas fewer than a third own guns, VPC’s Legislative Director Kristen Rand points out.


“Motor vehicles–unlike guns–are essential to the functioning of the entire U.S. economy,” Rand says, adding, “It is time to end firearms’ status as the last unregulated consumer product.”


The reason that cars have been getting safer is precisely because they are regulated. And those regulations are getting stiffer every year.



The National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act passed in 1966 authorized the federal government to set standards for car safety which have resulted in a whole slew of new mandatory life-saving features like head rests, energy absorbing steering wheels and shatter-resistant windshields. Highways themselves are being designed better with clearer delineation of curves, use of breakaway sign and utility poles, enhanced illumination, more barriers separating oncoming traffic lanes, and more guardrails than in the past. And stricter enforcement of laws against drunk driving and mandating seat belt use have also gone a long way toward making our highways safer.


When it comes to guns, by contrast, it is still the wild west out there. In many states, there is no age or background check (at gun shows) for those who want to purchase a handgun. In some places, you can pack a concealed weapon anywhere you wish, including bars where alcohol is served. And there are few restrictions on the types or numbers of guns that one can buy. Sniper rifles, as well as military style assault and automatic weapons — some powerful enough to shoot down a helicopter — are sold openly on the internet.


Steve Barborini, a former supervisor for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told MSNBC that the online sales loophole permits what he called “a weapons bazaar for criminals.”


There’s no background check, Anybody that has a murder conviction can simply log on, email someone, meet ’em in a parking lot, and buy a freaking AK-47.


A bill introduced in the Senate by New York’s Chuck Schumer to stop this illicit internet traffic in guns has been tied up in committee for over a year now, thanks in part to the machinations of the NRA. The powerful gun lobby is also active in virtually every state of the union making sure that effective legislation never sees the light of day. Even law enforcement agencies have their hands tied in many states by legislation which prevents them from taking effective action to monitor and restrict handguns.


Florida, for example, where the Trayvon Martin shooting occurred, bans its cities and counties from regulating firearms without the state’s permission, prevents police from collecting data on firearm sales at pawnshops and forbids adoption agencies from considering gun ownership when looking at placing children, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.


The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence says that Florida has some terrible gun laws– but not the worst in the nation, by their reckoning. That dubious distinction goes jointly to Arizona, Alaska and Utah where restrictions on gun purchases are virtually nonexistent.


What impact do gun laws have? Gun control opponents claim that limiting the availability of handguns does not make us safer, but more vulnerable to criminal gun violence. Their solution: arm ordinary citizens and the bad guys will be outgunned. But this is a prescription for escalating gun violence. The five states with the highest per-capita gun death rates– Louisiana, Wyoming, Alabama, Montana and Mississippi– all have extremely high rates of private handgun ownership, according to the Violence Policy Center. They also have conspicuously weak gun laws. By contrast, the five states with the lowest rates of gun-related deaths– Massachusetts, Hawaii, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut– have fewer handguns and the toughest gun control laws in the nation.


The evidence is clear– the more guns are out there, the more likely they will be used to take a life. To cut these escalating death rates, we need to strictly restrict access to handguns, as they do in virtually every other advanced nation on earth.


The highways of America are a whole lot safer today because of the aggressive and highly effective government regulation of automobiles. Let’s regulate handguns and make our streets safe too!



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  • Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of ... 2012/05/31 22:29:22
    Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of PHAET
    +9
    For the people who bring race into this and lie about minorities.

    Let's look at the stats.

    Overall whites commit 70% of all crime in the USA. The media does not talk about this.

    According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

    The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, more than 2-1.

    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/cont...

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/c...

    The term "black on black" crime is a destructive, racialized colloquialism that perpetuates an idea that blacks are somehow more prone to violence. This is untrue and fully verifiable by FBI, DOJ and census (pdf) data. Yet the fallacy is so fixed that even African Americans have come to believe it.

    http://www.census.gov/compend...

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  • getu 2012/07/13 19:20:19
    getu
    Sounds impressive until you look at their chart. That "slight rise" is a count of actual killings, not percentages of the population. Since population in increasing at an alarming rate (factoring in illegals) we almost have to be experiencing a decrease.

    Also, the European figures - they still have considerable numbers of deaths involving guns... which means that only criminals have guns. It hasn't stoppped them, has it?
  • Ryan 2012/06/20 22:19:30
    Ryan
    +1
    Biased article with a biased premise. Using data from biased studies produced by biased organizations.

    Gun deaths and injuries have been dropping for a decade, and yet gun ownership and sales has been increasing during that same timeframe.

    This is backed up by studies from unbiased sources. FBI, DOJ, etc.

    The article states that last year 31,593 people died from guns, and another 40k + were injured.

    Lets make a safe estimate of 35,000 deaths and 45,000 injuries per year, or 80,000 victims of guns per year.

    The vast majority of studies show 800,000 to 2,000,000 defensive gun uses each year.

    Even the largely flawed NCVS report shows over 100,000 uses, and it's been shown to have underestimated the number by a large margin.
  • Ryan 2012/06/05 15:49:15
    Ryan
    +2
    So the FBI and CDC data that gun deaths have dropped every year are wrong?

    And VPC? You're referencing studies by VPC and Brady Campaign?

    These are the groups that did things like use the ages 1-25 to get their "Children" killed by guns statistics.
  • Dave 2012/06/04 07:07:03
    Dave
    +2
    Bit it ain't guns thet kills people - is people thet kills people. Sometimes accidents happen jus likes with a car.
  • Commander Pyle 2012/06/02 20:44:19
    Commander Pyle
    +3
    Why haven't we banned cars yet?
  • Richard Hungwell AKA Relent... 2012/06/02 13:37:32 (edited)
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +4
    Plain and simple, FALSE!

    The numbers and statistics in this are twisted in a manner as to cause one to beleive things are much worse that they really are.

    For example:
    "This trend gives the lie to the NRA claim that easy access to guns does not pose a danger to Americans. It does. The more handguns there are out there, the more likely they will be used to commit a violent crime. Last year 31,593 Americans were killed by handguns. In addition, over 40 thousand were injured in nonlethal gun attacks, leaving some victims crippled for life.
    Compare these appalling casualty figures to the slightly over 1000 U.S. Armed Service personnel and private contractors who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan during the same period. Clearly we gun-toting Americans are our own worst enemies. The violence that we perpetrate on one another with handguns is more than 30 times as deadly than the attacks of Al Qaeda and the Taliban combined!"

    lets focus on the most obvious portion of the lie.

    "Clearly we gun-toting Americans are our own worst enemies."
    Clearly you cant do simple math. Less than 1% of the population of the US are represented by the armed service personnel and private contractors that have served in Iraq and Afghanistan during that time, yet over 1000 of them were killed.

    If you had hal...<
























    Plain and simple, FALSE!

    The numbers and statistics in this are twisted in a manner as to cause one to beleive things are much worse that they really are.

    For example:
    "This trend gives the lie to the NRA claim that easy access to guns does not pose a danger to Americans. It does. The more handguns there are out there, the more likely they will be used to commit a violent crime. Last year 31,593 Americans were killed by handguns. In addition, over 40 thousand were injured in nonlethal gun attacks, leaving some victims crippled for life.
    Compare these appalling casualty figures to the slightly over 1000 U.S. Armed Service personnel and private contractors who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan during the same period. Clearly we gun-toting Americans are our own worst enemies. The violence that we perpetrate on one another with handguns is more than 30 times as deadly than the attacks of Al Qaeda and the Taliban combined!"

    lets focus on the most obvious portion of the lie.

    "Clearly we gun-toting Americans are our own worst enemies."
    Clearly you cant do simple math. Less than 1% of the population of the US are represented by the armed service personnel and private contractors that have served in Iraq and Afghanistan during that time, yet over 1000 of them were killed.

    If you had half a working brain cell you would easily be able to tell that if that same threat were applied to 100% rather than <1% we could easily see over 100,000 killed by terrorist attacks.

    Statistics show that doctors are more dangerous

    (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
    (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
    (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

    (Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept. of Health Human Services)

    Guns
    (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
    Yes, that is 80 million.

    (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
    (C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188.

    Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
    Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

    FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

    Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!


    Shootings in the US have actually been going down since the 90's not up as this rant would suggest.
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  • luvguins Richard... 2012/06/02 14:06:24
    luvguins
    What is false?
  • Richard... luvguins 2012/06/02 14:17:29
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +3
    the entire premise Behind the statement.
  • luvguins Richard... 2012/06/02 14:52:57
    luvguins
    Well the stats prove it in 10 states.
  • Command... luvguins 2012/06/03 01:25:33
    Commander Pyle
    +1
    look in the cities with large amount of gang violence.
  • luvguins Command... 2012/06/03 01:33:23
    luvguins
    Utah, Oregon, Washington, and Virginia? Not states with cities known for gang violence.
  • Command... luvguins 2012/06/03 01:56:11
    Commander Pyle
    +2
    I wouldn't know. I do have to wonder how many of these are suicides, self defense, or anything else that isn't outright murder. The link mentions they're deaths. That is pretty ambiguous.

    I love this quote: "There’s no background check, Anybody that has a murder conviction can simply log on, email someone, meet ’em in a parking lot, and buy a freaking AK-47."

    These idiots act as if you can mow down a group of kids after buying said ak. Its a semi auto. It's not mowing anyone down. In fact, hunting rifles are even more powerful than the ak. This is just anti gun bs. I'm not falling for it. Not to mention it is highly ridiculous. A person with a murder conviction is likely to have a felony record, right? This is a straw purchase and it is illegal. If the ATF wants to make this argument, why not argue against arming the Mexican cartel with these same "FREAKING AK-47s!"?? You can get a handgun quite easily in some areas, who would want to carry a big ass rifle in its place?

    I don't live in a safe city. I don't plan to move. I just arm myself and go on about my business.
  • luvguins Command... 2012/06/03 04:30:24
    luvguins
    +1
    Undercover operations have shown the parking lot buys. It happens and yeah, it's illegal, but prevalent.
  • Command... luvguins 2012/06/03 16:01:17
    Commander Pyle
    +2
    I don't need undercover operations to tell me that straw/illegal purchases happen. I also don't need a government agency to fearmonger. The ak/ar rifle looks dangerous, but they are near the bottom of homicide weapons.
  • luvguins Command... 2012/06/03 16:21:17
    luvguins
    Any gun in the hands of a kook can kill.
  • Command... luvguins 2012/06/03 17:02:58
    Commander Pyle
    +1
    As will a car.
  • luvguins Command... 2012/06/03 17:34:31
    luvguins
    Most gun violence is premeditated.
  • Command... luvguins 2012/06/03 17:47:51
    Commander Pyle
    That's why it is violent.
  • Stacy F luvguins 2012/06/24 01:59:29 (edited)
    Stacy F
    +1
    So are some vehicular homicides. Take, for instance, this case...

    Glendale man gets 34 and 1/2 years prison in 'honor killing' case
    by Lisa Halverstadt - Apr. 16, 2011 12:00 AM
    The Arizona Republic

    A Glendale man who fatally RAN DOWN his daughter and seriously injured a former family friend wept with regret on Friday, then was sentenced to more than three decades in prison.

    Faleh Hassan Al-Maleki, found guilty in the killing of his 20-year-old daughter Noor, will serve 34 1/2 years. "This does not have to do with honor," Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Roland Steinle said. "This has to do with a man, his narcissism, his mean-spiritedness, his inability to forgive. He was driven to kill his daughter because it suited his purpose."

    The case drew international attention after authorities said Al-Maleki, an Iraqi immigrant, DELIBERATELY RAN DOWN his daughter in October 2009 because he believed she did not adhere to traditional cultural values and brought shame to her family.

    Al-Maleki, 50, broke down crying and apologized in court Friday afternoon to his family and to Amal Khalaf, whose hip and thigh were broken when he drove his Jeep into her and his daughter as they walked in a Peoria parking lot. Noor was dating Khalaf's son.

    He fled to Mexico and London before being arrested late...































    So are some vehicular homicides. Take, for instance, this case...

    Glendale man gets 34 and 1/2 years prison in 'honor killing' case
    by Lisa Halverstadt - Apr. 16, 2011 12:00 AM
    The Arizona Republic

    A Glendale man who fatally RAN DOWN his daughter and seriously injured a former family friend wept with regret on Friday, then was sentenced to more than three decades in prison.

    Faleh Hassan Al-Maleki, found guilty in the killing of his 20-year-old daughter Noor, will serve 34 1/2 years. "This does not have to do with honor," Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Roland Steinle said. "This has to do with a man, his narcissism, his mean-spiritedness, his inability to forgive. He was driven to kill his daughter because it suited his purpose."

    The case drew international attention after authorities said Al-Maleki, an Iraqi immigrant, DELIBERATELY RAN DOWN his daughter in October 2009 because he believed she did not adhere to traditional cultural values and brought shame to her family.

    Al-Maleki, 50, broke down crying and apologized in court Friday afternoon to his family and to Amal Khalaf, whose hip and thigh were broken when he drove his Jeep into her and his daughter as they walked in a Peoria parking lot. Noor was dating Khalaf's son.

    He fled to Mexico and London before being arrested later and returned to Arizona. His apology on Friday was the first time he publicly spoke about his daughter's death.

    "I wish I was dead, and not her," he said in Arabic. "I'm sorry. I'm very sorry."

    Steinle responded by sentencing Al-Maleki to 16 years in prison for second-degree murder, 15 years for the assault of Khalaf, and 3 1/2 years for leaving the scene of an accident.

    Khalaf, who was the first to speak at Friday's sentencing hearing, said in Arabic that she still doesn't understand why Al-Maleki chose to hurt her, especially when the families had been so close.

    "I just want to ask him what I did to him to put me in this situation," said Khalaf, looking in front of her as a court interpreter translated her words.

    Public defender Jeffrey Kirchler argued that mitigating factors should be considered. Among them, Kirchler said, were Al-Maleki's apparent health problems, torture he faced in Iraq under Saddam Hussein's regime and a lack of a criminal history.

    "That shouldn't matter", said Deputy County Attorney Laura Reckart. Instead, she showed what she believed should matter in a PowerPoint presentation.

    There were photos of Noor, smiling and serene. There were the frantic sounds of 911 calls, seeking help for the two women. There were photos of the aftermath of the crash, including knocked-down trees and debris in the state Department of Economic Security parking lot in Peoria.

    As they watched and listened, Khalaf's and Al-Maleki's family members drew tissues to their eyes. One of Khalaf's relatives rose and cursed in anger. Khalaf quickly hugged him, and security officials took him out of the courtroom.

    Later, when Steinle spoke, he said the sentencing was one of the most difficult in his six years as a judge.

    Noor Al-Maleki's murder was without honor, Steinle said. She was like any other 20-year-old woman whose desire for independence caused tension with her parents. Her father reacted with hatred rather than understanding, Steinle said.

    He recounted lessons from Buddhism, Islam and Christianity, which preach forgiveness and compassion.
    "For someone to say this crime was committed to restore someone's honor, they really do not understand what religion is all about," Steinle said.

    Noor would have pleaded for compassion for her father, Steinle said, which is why he sentenced Al-Maleki to 16 years for her murder rather than the maximum 22 years.

    The judge said he hoped Al-Maleki's time in state prison will lead him to reflect.
    "As you sit in a jail cell, I hope you come to grips with what you did, because so far it's been all about you," Steinle said.
    Al-Maleki's prison placement will be determined by the Arizona Department of Corrections.

    Firearm violence isn't the only violent crime that is premeditated. So are murders involving knives, baseball bats, broken beer bottles, ropes, electrical cords, or anything else that the perpetrator can get their hands on.
    Now, you were saying?
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  • luvguins Stacy F 2012/06/30 00:12:28
    luvguins
    Guns are too handy. Thanks for playing,
  • Stacy F luvguins 2012/06/30 15:31:03
    Stacy F
    "...too handy". Nice play on words, lol!
  • Stacy F luvguins 2012/06/24 01:49:55
    Stacy F
    +1
    The .22LR (Long Rifle) cartridge is responsible for most firearms fatalities... and THAT number is nowhere near the number of deaths caused by vehicles.
  • luvguins Stacy F 2012/06/30 00:13:16
    luvguins
    +1
    Any gun is capable of killing in the wrong hands.
  • Stacy F luvguins 2012/06/30 15:12:51
    Stacy F
    That is very true.
  • Richard... luvguins 2012/06/03 08:05:52 (edited)
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +2
    stats prove the headline but not the bulk of the statement.

    Another example of the twisted facts given.

    "Gun fatalities have been on the rise– slowly but steadily every year since 2002, according to a National Institute of Justice survey."

    Data stops in 2005! it is now 7.5 years later that data is irrelevant to the claim.

    I think you may have missed my edit to my first statement, it gives another example of the twisted facts in the statement.
  • luvguins Richard... 2012/06/03 14:02:27
    luvguins
    So you compare apples to oranges to justify gun deaths? Sure more people die of cancer, and heart disease too.
  • Richard... luvguins 2012/06/03 15:55:43
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +2
    You totally missed the point, I'm not surprised.

    Let me highlight the more important part of the text so you don't get distracted.

    "Clearly we gun-toting Americans are our own worst enemies."
    Clearly you cant do simple math. Less than 1% of the population of the US are represented by the armed service personnel and private contractors that have served in Iraq and Afghanistan during that time, yet over 1000 of them were killed.

    If you had half a working brain cell you would easily be able to tell that if that same threat were applied to 100% rather than <1% we could easily see over 100,000 killed by terrorist attacks.
  • luvguins Richard... 2012/06/03 15:59:23
    luvguins
    Oh, I understand your math. It just does not mitigate the gun problems we have in this country.
  • Richard... luvguins 2012/06/03 17:11:59
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +3
    The only problem we have with guns in our country, is they cost too damn much.
    The problem is not with the guns, it's with the irresponsible people. People that like to blame there problems on inanimate objects.

    Every one of those gun deaths was at the fault of a person, not the gun. We need to stop trying to get rid of guns and start getting rid of the actual problem, irresponsibility.

    Of those deaths, probably half of them were criminal acts. Roughly 5000 would be the result of law enforcement. A few, probably in the 700-800 range (depending on whether Dick Cheney went hunting) would be accidents, and the rest suicide. While these numbers are not exact, they do reflect recent patterns.

    trying to relate all those to violent crime is not only twisting the facts, but an outright lie.
  • Patric Richard... 2012/06/03 17:56:53
    Patric
    +1
    the majority of firearm death ????
    suicide ... yes, we are our greatest threat to our selves,,
  • Patric Richard... 2012/06/03 17:57:31
    Patric
    +1
    law enforcement is less than 5% of firearm deaths...
  • luvguins Richard... 2012/06/03 21:40:05 (edited)
    luvguins
    Probably doesn't get it. The reason they cost so much because you silly fools went out when the president was elected scared by the NRA and bought all the guns and ammo making the prices go up..lol. The president has not said a darn thing about gun control in 3 1/2 years.
  • Richard... luvguins 2012/06/04 17:10:30
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +1
    Probably does get it when it is based off previous patterns and current data is unavailable. I've yet to find any reliable sources that can confirm that number to be accurate for last year anyway. Everything kept coming back to the nut cases at the bradey campaign, which has a history of twisting the truth and cherry picking statistics.

    Guns were too expensive before he got elected too. His election made it worse, but prices were outrageous well before he even got involved. I wont blame him for that one.
  • luvguins Richard... 2012/06/04 17:22:50
    luvguins
    More nut cases as members of the NRA than the Brady campaign.
    Good card carrying members shooting their wives, bosses, co-workers, and others in fast food places. Almost all white men too.
  • Patric luvguins 2012/06/04 20:00:04
    Patric
    +1
    wow, I hope you sit down , take a deep breath, and slowly read your post,, wow,
    all this hate inside , does it consume you >>
  • luvguins Patric 2012/06/04 20:16:24
    luvguins
    Nice try at a deflection of the truth. I couldn't be more calm and collected, but thanks for your concern. I dislike organizations who mislead the people with demagoguery and sell them snake oil for their own purpose.
  • Patric luvguins 2012/06/04 20:21:55
    Patric
    +1
    I will agree with your feelings toward the organizations that make it their lively hood to deceive us.
    but all that hate, all the venom , do not find it healthy , physicaly nor emotionaly, atleast for me personaly. it may be good for you, but I doubt it, it seems to me, the hate will consume the person untill that person is a hatefull , lonely person with no one to blame but them selves..
  • Richard... luvguins 2012/06/05 15:36:59
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +1
    Wrong again, but I expect that from you.
  • luvguins Richard... 2012/06/05 15:44:42
    luvguins
    Oh, so it's Mr. Infallible now? You are a joke. Hungwell?
    cat ROTFLMAO
  • Richard... luvguins 2012/06/05 15:51:37
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +1
    Not, infallible. Just right this time. The sad thing is, that cat is smarter than you.
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