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Gun-Store Owner Offers Teachers a Discount: Should Schools Arm Willing Teachers?

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Teachers train as career educators because they want to help kids learn. They anticipate the daily needs of working with youngsters aside from the standard curriculum. Every teacher practices for fire and natural disaster emergencies. Sadly, today's times require defense against violent attacks in our public schools.

Laws promote campuses without guns. Kids can barely play with toy guns or make gestures with their fingers that resemble pretend guns. Criminals prey upon disarmed victims. Would arming teachers -- only those who are willing, of course -- deter crimes against innocent children?

Should schools encourage teachers who want to carry weapons for defense? Should the schools offer training? Should the teachers' unions push to protect their members by allowing them to arm themselves?

DFW.CBSLOCAL.COM reports:An Austin-area gun store owner is joining the gun rights debate with a controversial offer for teachers in light of the tragic shooting in Connecticut.

Read More: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/12/17/austin-gun-stor...

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  • merlinskiss 2012/12/17 22:38:13
    Yes
    merlinskiss
    +14
    I see no reason that teachers should not be armed and know how and when to use those arms just like any other American citizen under the Constitution.

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  • jon 2013/01/13 09:03:09
    Yes
    jon
    best of all plans next in line investigate use and results of psychotropic drugs especially on youth < 25 years.
  • Big Al 2012/12/25 19:04:08
    Yes
    Big Al
    +1
    Well they you have it my friends...
    All the nagging, whining & complaining over the years by secular liberals!
    No disciplining of children in school. No prayer or God allowed in schools. No common sense allowed in schools. No respect of ones bodies or control of sexuality allowed in schools.
    No control of generally teaching kids to be respectful, self reliant & responsible for their owns actions.
    What has it got us??
    Fatherless children dependent upon the big government, rape, low self respect & now armed teachers in schools!
    I applaud you liberals for your fabulous contributions to our future & society as a whole.......bow.
  • Jane in WV 2012/12/24 23:20:39 (edited)
    Yes
    Jane in WV
    The highest crime rates are in strict firearm controlled cities; the lowest rates of violence correlate where home firearms have been mandated by law or in States where there is a high percentage of home firearm ownership. Look at how successful the war on drugs has been. Seen movies about the war on alcohol?

    p.s. I'm not counting all the politicians who want to ban firearms and have their own private security. They shouldn't be allowed to vote ban, unless they get rid of their armed guards.
  • Timetraveler 2012/12/23 13:20:53
    No
    Timetraveler
    +1
    Just as there are some cops who shouldn't carry guns, there are teachers too.
  • toni 2012/12/21 13:35:53
    No
    toni
    +2
    Anyone answering yes obviously doesn't know how annoying some kids can be.
  • andrew.micheals.353 2012/12/20 20:19:39
    No
    andrew.micheals.353
    +1
    What madness is this? You guys should be trying to stop the spread of guns. By this logic we should give nuclear weapons to Iran and everyone in the middle east then no one will start a fight? Madness!
  • John Walker II 2012/12/20 18:50:34
    Yes
    John Walker II
    +2
    YES! A thousand times yes.

    And the key words here are WILLing teachers. I don't know about other folks but if I heard that school shootings happen, and I have a teacher who was quite willing to carry a pistol to help defend me while I was in class? Oh hell yea I would be cool with that.

    That's a teacher I could respect, and it's not respect earned by force, it's respect earned by what they're willing to do for their charges.
  • LTJet 2012/12/20 18:45:51
    No
    LTJet
    +2
    The less guns you have the less death by guns you will have. You can't really expect much by solving violence with more violence. If the teachers had guns most of them would probably not have used them or had the time to think about using it.
  • Jane in WV LTJet 2012/12/24 23:23:58
    Jane in WV
    That was an accident; to like your post. The highest crime rates are in strict firearm controlled cities; the lowest rates of violence correlate where home firearms have been mandated by law or in States where there is a high percentage of home firearm ownership. Look at how success the war on drugs has been.
  • LTJet Jane in WV 2013/08/10 12:51:44
    LTJet
    That's ok but let me put it this way I live in Australia. How many school shooting have you heard of here? It seems every few years some kid having a bad day goes to a gun store or their parents guns and goes and shoots up their school.
    I would hate to see what a town would look like if both drugs and guns were legal...
  • JC 2012/12/20 18:06:33
    Yes
    JC
    +1
    I think this would give a lot of parents a little more peace of heart. There might even be a side bennefit for teachers in Junior High and High School. The students might show more respect.
  • Tarheel JC 2012/12/20 23:24:11
    Tarheel
    I don't know of anyone, personally, who would actually feel safe having teachers carry guns at their children's schools. On this site, yes, real life, no.
  • Herbtheman 2012/12/20 17:35:30
    Yes
    Herbtheman
    +1
    The children would be much safer if the teachers were armed.
  • ALofRI 2012/12/20 16:45:09
    No
    ALofRI
    +2
    I knew some teachers that would have loved to have a gun at times, to use on we students! Teachers many times are under serious pressure....absolutely NOT! The gun store owner should not BE a gun store owner!
  • Leo Dupuis 2012/12/20 15:57:07
    No
    Leo Dupuis
    +1
    Next headline TEACHER LOSSES IT AND KILLS HIS CLASS
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/12/20 15:11:02
  • 81sp 2012/12/20 15:01:02
    No
    81sp
    +4
    if you arm teachers than the next massacre will be double the loss of the life. that is not the answer no matter what a segment of population might think. teachers are trained
    in educating children not becoming profeceint in carrying a gun. that is like asking a trained soldeir to educate kids in three easy lessons, the idea is absurd. this is a very complex problem which requires more than one solution.
    what would help not cure the problem but would help is banning assualt weapons
    extended clips and closing the loop holes in private gun shows. people can still have hand guns and hunting rifles. there right to carry a gun will not taken away. only certain weapons
    that nobody needs.
  • Darr247 2012/12/20 14:27:19
    Yes
    Darr247
    +4
    Well, the teachers should have to buy the guns themselves, but they should be allowed to carry in school if they've had the training and got the CCP.
  • hatter 2012/12/20 14:05:31
  • hatter hatter 2012/12/20 14:28:34 (edited)
    hatter
    +1
    It seams that city folk love to kill people. Rural people have way less problems with guns. Are people in cities messed up. Ask yourself that. In 2011 68 percent of all murders were in California. Also rufly twelve thousand murders and 8000 were gun related murder in the US. Auto accidents are about 40,000 per year. And gun deaths are about number 15 on the death chart. Running out of time check the death chart your self.
  • whitewu... hatter 2012/12/20 15:13:57
  • Sir Bud. whitewu... 2012/12/20 18:57:41
    Sir Bud.
    The Cosa Nostra were not going to let any new laws reduce their"Quality of Life"and have as always a flourishing black market in Guns etc well in hand.
  • twocrows hatter 2012/12/20 16:14:26
    twocrows
    yep. that explains the tiny town of Newtown, CT.
  • whitewu... twocrows 2012/12/20 16:55:16
  • Marek whitewu... 2012/12/20 17:33:06
    Marek
    What an idea, goon control would make so much more sense. Unfortunately that is why politicians will never allow it, they want gun ban for everyone except goons.
  • Mtg303 Marek 2012/12/26 01:50:59
    Mtg303
    Adam Lanza wasn't a typical goon though. Educated, white and from an affluent family, typical mass murderer.
  • Rod 2012/12/20 13:39:37
    Yes
    Rod
    +5
    Arm and train them.
  • Darr247 Rod 2012/12/20 14:28:42
    Darr247
    +2
    Training should probably come first. :-)
  • ken 2012/12/20 11:58:22
    No
    ken
    +1
    Arming teachers isn't the answer. As far as the Austin gun store goes, even with a concealed carry permit it's illegal to bring a weapon on AISD property. Period.
  • Darr247 ken 2012/12/20 14:29:48
    Darr247
    +2
    So, the only people with guns there are the criminals. Makes perfect sense.
  • ken Darr247 2012/12/21 01:10:15
    ken
    +2
    There are armed police officers that work for the district.

    aisd police
  • Darr247 ken 2012/12/23 15:44:20
    Darr247
    +1
    And I bet they haven't had any unconfined schizos that refuse to take their meds trying to massacre kids there... so why are anti-gun nuts against the idea?
  • ken Darr247 2012/12/23 23:40:48
    ken
    I really don't know.
  • Marek ken 2012/12/20 17:34:31
    Marek
    Well, then, make it legal. Period.
  • macbeth 2012/12/20 11:56:10
    No
    macbeth
    +3
    Sick attempt by the store owner to make money on the back of a tragedy.
  • hatter macbeth 2012/12/20 14:06:51
    hatter
    Who dicks sporting goods.
  • Brad macbeth 2012/12/22 01:07:32
    Brad
    Your reply is what is sick! I guess when Red Cross offers assistance to help during a tragedy they are only doing it to profit..... wow, time to evaluate your post.

    A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated...















    Your reply is what is sick! I guess when Red Cross offers assistance to help during a tragedy they are only doing it to profit..... wow, time to evaluate your post.

    A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
    You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
    Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
    With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
    If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
    SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
    SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
    SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
    IT'S A NO BRAINER!
    DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.
    Spread the word everywhere you can that you are a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!

    It's time to speak loud before they try to silence and disarm us.
    You're not imagining it, history shows that governments always manipulate tragedies to attempt to disarm the people~
    (more)
  • Marek 2012/12/20 11:38:55
    Yes
    Marek
    +2
    Absolutely. The teachers, who qualify to have CPL permit should be allowed to carry their weapons in schools for the protection of our children and their own. Those teachers who died attempting to save the children by shielding them with their bodies were denied a fighting chance by the government which as usual failed to protect them and children. The fools in Congress and local governments who created those gun free zones are accessories to murder, not intentionally of course but nevertheless guilty of endangerment of our children.
  • Estick 2012/12/20 08:04:57
    No
    Estick
    +3
    How many times have we heard of kids getting ahold of a gun and accidentally killing themselves, or someone near them. You can't tell me that there aren't going to be any accidents.

    You also can't tell me that all legal gun owners are "stable" individuals. What if a parent doesn't trust their kid's Kindergarten teacher to be around their child with a gun?
  • twocrows Estick 2012/12/20 16:21:39
    twocrows
    +2
    Newtown is a perfect case in point.
    the owner of the gun may have been perfectly stable [though why she felt the need to own a few semi-automatic weapons begs that question, but we can let that go for now.]
    her SON, otoh, was obviously NOT stable. and he had access to those guns. the rest is history.

    and children, ranging in age from 5 to 18, would have access to the guns in their classrooms. yes, indeed. accidents would happen.
    or, if a couple of teenaged boys with a grudge decided to shoot up the school, we provide them the guns to do it.
    what a great idea THAT is.
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