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Gun laws need to be changed

LesWaggoner BN 1 2012/07/24 03:24:19

I don’t understand why the NRA is going for half measures when it comes to weapons laws in the U.S.


We are allowed to own semi-automatic pistols and rifles that, with simple alterations, can be made to fire fully automatic.


Why stop there? Why can’t we legally purchase fully automatic military issue weapons as well as hand grenades, RPG’s and other hand held weapons?

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  • ehrhornp 2012/07/29 23:20:31
    ehrhornp
    +1
    I won't be happy until I can have my own nuclear bomb. Why should countries be the only ones to have them?
  • LesWagg... ehrhornp 2012/07/29 23:37:07 (edited)
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    Be glad to sell you one but I don't think you could afford it.
  • ehrhornp LesWagg... 2012/08/01 19:08:08
    ehrhornp
    probably true. lol
  • Ambassador II 2012/07/24 07:01:33
    Ambassador II
    +1
    I imagine NRA and manufacturers have some plans for those things. Can't you picture
    the "good old boys" down there in Louisiana and Texas riding around in their rusting pickups waving shoulder rockets and firing into the air, just like their counterparts in Iraq, Syria, and a dozen other third world countries? What could better speak for our "free market economy" than to let these weapons be sold at Walmart and Target? Every "red blood American patriot" would want to stock up on these, looking forward to that day when the call for the "militia" will come from the "Conservative Dictator In Chief" and all will be again like it was in 1775.
  • Franklin Ambassa... 2012/07/24 12:53:00
    Franklin
    +1
    your the one who elected and is still supporting a dictator ! No president before has ever abused the office like this one.
  • Ambassa... Franklin 2012/07/24 16:32:48
    Ambassador II
    +1
    That is the story Rush Limbaugh has been telling airheads for a decade - someone is not doing what the RWNJs want ..... Ohhhh, it is so awful.
  • Franklin Ambassa... 2012/07/24 23:07:47
    Franklin
    I will have to take your word for what Rush has been saying ...never listen to his show myself- but lets be clear on this , you know less than NOTHING about the economy or you would know that President George W Bush took office in a far deeper hole than Obama and faced far GREATER problems ...the only economic problem you liberals have faced is the ones you created and the wasted trillions you stole pretending to work on those said same problems-
  • LesWagg... Franklin 2012/07/25 00:49:05
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    It must be embarassing to be so far out of the mainstream that you have no idea what has happened over the past 13 years or so. It must also be embarrasing to be unable to do basic research to find out that you are so uninformed.

    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record.

    Economic policy of the George W. Bush administration

    The George W. Bush Job Creation Failure


    U.S. Recession History Great Depression onwards
  • Franklin LesWagg... 2012/07/25 12:39:57
    Franklin
    LOL- you don't know the track record so calling it worst just proves your an idiot! Lets use Obama's own campaign shall we - in 08 he said the 300 billion dollar deficit under President Bush was unpatriotic , that would make his 1.3 trillion dollar a year spending treason !
    but lets get back to your push to ban guns and your post proving that the USA has been reading the constitution WRONG for over 200 years....go for it kid ! Its your time to shine , ban guns bring that "change" you have been working for the past 60 years to create ...you have even more supporters now than you did in 08 right ? right ? right ? -
  • Ambassa... Franklin 2012/07/25 13:00:02
    Ambassador II
    +1
    [...] The shooter in Colorado was probably off his meds and living in a world of similar fears and delusions.
  • LesWagg... Franklin 2012/07/26 21:10:01
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    You are showing your typical inability to read and understand. [...]



    The discussion is not about banning "guns" or firearms. It is about banning the purchase of automatic and semi-automatic weapons.
  • Ambassa... LesWagg... 2012/07/27 03:37:41
    Ambassador II
    Mention the word "gun" to them and they immediately begin to jerk off in their state of madness. Like Pavlov's dogs, they have been trained by NRA and manufacturers to salivate and bark when they hear the bell. Sad, as so many die every day as a result of their obstinacy and lack of understanding the problem.
  • LesWagg... Ambassa... 2012/07/28 05:01:25
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    Franklin seems to be among that group.
    We can never eliminate murder with small arms but we can reduce their effect. Particularly in a situation like Aurora.
  • Franklin LesWagg... 2012/07/27 14:53:51
    Franklin
    wow that is so new, its not like anyone has ever tried that one before ...OK yea now every America will roll over and do things your way , I mean how bad can it be its not like we have any history of "reasonable gun bans" growing into total gun bans (other than every country on earth that is)
  • LesWagg... Franklin 2012/07/24 20:47:53
  • Franklin LesWagg... 2012/07/24 23:09:32
    Franklin
    yes so you posted a picture of a president who did far far better than Obama ...what of it libtard ?
  • LesWagg... Franklin 2012/07/25 00:50:41
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    That coming from someone with a sub-par mentality?
  • Ambassa... Franklin 2012/07/25 03:57:07
    Ambassador II
    Tell us what he did that was "better" or even "good". Please.
  • Franklin Ambassa... 2012/07/25 12:47:23
    Franklin
    pull this nation out of a hole 6 times deeper than the one Obama cries about - created 8 million jobs on top of not losing jobs (Obama cuts the size of the work force every month in his jobs reports!) ...faced 5 trillion dollars worth of natural disasters while Obama has face zero dollars in disasters . I could go on but lest just look at a picture you have NEVER seen that sums up GDP start points for both dotcom bubble
    notice how the GDP dropped after the dotcom bubble and 9/11 and unlike Obama it did this funny little thing after that IT GREW! Obama started at a higher point and spend 500% more while adding less than 2% per year + has held a > 4% inflation rate america is bleeding out fool .
  • Ambassa... Franklin 2012/07/25 12:56:57 (edited)
    Ambassador II
    Texas, Arizona, Colorado fires; Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia floods;
    Joplin, MO and other tornados; Disasters? GM, Chrysler, Fannie & Freddy, Iraq & Afghanistan, the Treasury, Disasters?

    The game of trying to make the present Administration responsible for the continuing meltdown caused by thrity years of "Reaganomics" and the carefully planned pillage by the Reagan Banks and Wall Street is wasted on me. I've been there, seen that, know the game, and predicted the results on that day in 1980 when Reagan's Cabinet Secretaries warned me and a few others what was ahead. Save the BS for those who follow the nonsense from the RWNJs and Fox network.
  • Ambassa... LesWagg... 2012/07/25 03:56:19 (edited)
    Ambassador II
    The red nose tell most of the story. My face gets red like that when I have a couple of drinks. Very common reaction to alcohol.

    How did you mamage to think of GWB when the question is about gun laws?
  • rand 2012/07/24 04:31:23
    rand
    +1
    Why not suitcase nuclear weapons?
  • Franklin rand 2012/07/24 13:00:24
    Franklin
    ...LOL so you must have seen the posts by Ishmael , it must make you proud to call yourself a liberal knowing you are among people like him !
  • rand Franklin 2012/07/24 15:19:50
    rand
    +1
    I'm a Goldwater Republican from the era when the GOP was termed "the party of reason". My fellow antiques like Scowcroft and Simpson have confessed that we're now termed RINOs which I assume means "Reason Instead of Nutty Opinions". But let me know where I've EVER referred to myself as a "liberal".
  • Franklin rand 2012/07/24 23:13:02
    Franklin
    RINO's are just EXTRA retarded liberals ...that is your Jimmy carter economy out there kid enjoy what YOU and Obama built ...what did you hate most about the 30 years that republicans had ANY power in Washington , was it the $$$ that this country made ? the jobs created by republicans ? Or are you just one of those HATERS that was sad to see us win the cold war ???
    Clinton never had a "surplus" but you are probably way to far up Obama's gun grabbing ass to see facts or reason - jolly good job the Democrats did when they took over in 06 and crashed the economy ...lets keep them in power and see just how far down we can go shall we .
  • Ambassa... rand 2012/07/24 16:34:45
    Ambassador II
    +2
    If there is a profit to be made, America's arms manufacturers will sell them and the NRA will lobby for them to be legalized and encourage all "partiots" to own one.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/24 04:18:56
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    Eliminate the "Bad Control" LAWS and give fresh new meaning to Freedom and Safety by putting the Citizens of the US in a Holster and firearm set. It has been always a Constitutional Responsibility. Yhe Control Part is not effective. The Police are a minute behind as the Perp is cleaning up the final; 7000 mutders and are out the f=door.
  • rustyshackelford 2012/07/24 03:59:28
  • Franklin rustysh... 2012/07/24 12:50:44
    Franklin
    yes it is but very few people do as the tax stamp and back ground check are very expensive and that is on top of the cost of the gun ....but the average anti- gun liberal does not know what the word SEMI means or why it belongs in front of the word automatic
  • LesWagg... Franklin 2012/07/24 20:43:30 (edited)
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    SEMI means nothing.
    The Drop In Auto Sear (DIAS) is a device that is added to an otherwise semi-automatic AR-15 so that when used with M-16 fire control parts including an M-16 carrier produces full auto fire.
    DIAS
  • rustysh... LesWagg... 2012/07/24 23:11:10
  • Franklin LesWagg... 2012/07/24 23:16:00
    Franklin
    good luck with that kid - I will put money on you being unable to use that part ...shall we say $100 ? in fact if you can make an AR full out (and safe) I will gladly buy it form you for $10K -
  • rustysh... Franklin 2012/07/24 23:04:40
  • Franklin rustysh... 2012/07/24 23:18:14
    Franklin
    $200 ??? who said that ....a TAX stamp for a fully automatic or a "select fire" weapon is $6K ! And the gun will run you from $2,500 to $12,000 (or more for some) ....if you can get a FEDERAL tax stamp for $200 I will but a dozen of them right now LOL
  • rustysh... Franklin 2012/07/24 23:24:59
  • Franklin rustysh... 2012/07/25 13:06:59
    Franklin
    I will have to look into that - I was under the impression that I had to have a type III and that I had to pay for each gun . I only ever asked my dealers about the one GUN and they all told me it would run me $12K or more ....not sure I want to pay that much just for nostalgia LOL and then there is the cost of shooting a big toy ...i run threw some cash just taking the semiautomatic Tech-9 , mac-10 and AK-47 out to the range for the day
    Have you shot the MX8 yet ? It has a good feel once you get past the way it looks ...I am going to get to shoot it next week - its always love or hate with me , there is no middle ground on any gun . Love it or hate it ...LOL MX8 I really want one that looks like this LOL http://files.redux.com/images...
  • rustysh... Franklin 2012/07/25 22:10:02
  • Franklin rustysh... 2012/07/27 14:58:43
    Franklin
    ...it should be more like the CCW where I can just buy whatever I want and only have to pay the scam-tax to my state for each new purchase ...Funny thing is because of the added cost many of us wait and buy more than one gun at a time ....that is why Eric Holder targeted people who make multiple gun purchases ...its all a plan ! LOL
  • lm1b2 2012/07/24 03:59:07
    lm1b2
    +1
    Dau,they take one thing away,and then they come back for more,you are a idiot!
  • Franklin lm1b2 2012/07/24 12:51:33
    Franklin
    +1
    now your expecting liberals to know world history ....they want nothing to do with that , it gets in the way of their agenda!

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