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GOP Senator Calls The Cops on 9/11 Responders

StarrGazerr 2010/12/17 14:12:43
Apparently Senator Collins is not familiar with the First Amendment's protection of the "right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Not surprising. In the past ten years it's hard to find a single piece of evidence that any Republican has ever read the Constitution (aside from half of the second Amendment, of course).


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Republican senator calls cops on 9/11 responders

By Daniel Tencer
Thursday, December 16th, 2010 -- 5:58 pm

A group of nine 9/11 first responders who arrived in Washington, DC, to pressure Congress into passing a health care bill were met with an unwelcome surprise: A police escort, courtesy of Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine.

Collins called Capitol Police when she heard the activists were planning to arrive on the Hill and stay in senators' offices until they had the 60 votes needed to overcome a GOP filibuster of the health care bill for 9/11 responders, the New York Daily News reports.

But Collins's office apparently sensed the bad publicity a move like that would no doubt cause, because her staffers soon offered tepid support for the bill, telling the responders it will pass if it comes onto the Senate floor.

WNBC reports:

The potentially tense situation began when a staff member for Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) "informed Capitol Police yesterday that we expected a large group of people to visit the office today," said Kevin Kelley, a spokesman for the Senator.

"The intent was never to discourage the visit, nor were Capitol police ever asked to intervene," said Kelley. "In fact, the group had a very insightful discussion with Senator Collins' Staff Director on the Senate Homeland Security Committee about the 9/11 health bill."

"I'm deeply disappointed in Sen. Collins for calling the Capitol Police, but they welcomed us with open arms," said John Feal, a demolition supervisor whose foot was crushed by metal in the World Trade Center wreckage.

"I'm more disappointed that Susan Collins is hiding behind ideology, and now the police, to stop from helping us," he added. "And the people she called to stop us, are just like us. It's a little ironic."

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  • Quasineutrality 2010/12/24 09:52:52
    Quasineutrality
    Congress Passes Revised 9/11 Responders Health Bill
    http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
  • Arizona1950 2010/12/18 13:13:29
    Arizona1950
    Hey what's your complaint! Pelosi lead Congress to pass a bill without reading it so they can find out what's in it! Now there is a scholar and Constitutional reader, eh?
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/18 20:45:21
    StarrGazerr
    Yet another untruth. The health care bill was made available on the internet weeks before the vote. That Republicans didn't want to take time out of their hatefest to sit down and READ it is their own responsibility.

    And just out of curiosity, what does that have to do with Senator Collins' censorship of American citizens? She didn't say she did what she did because she hadn't had time to read the bill. She just didn't think that listening to AMERICANS whose lives might be affected by the legislation she's responsible for voting on was important to her.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/18 21:28:31
    Arizona1950
    +2
    It was Pelosi who said it, not a Republican and where the Dems had the majority I don't think its a far stretch to know who didn't read the bill ... the Republicans were against if for the most part remember. I can't agree or disagree in regards to your response that it was ALL on the internet before it was passed, but those who did have a inkling were soon quieted when everything went behind closed doors.

    As far as the censorship, ah well I thought you had all the answers you needed so I got a little side-tracked. Not like Obama hasn't done the same in word and attitude ... oops, something you don't wish to acknowledge about the Obama and his loyal socialists.
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/18 22:28:17
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    The Republican opposition to health care reform had nothing to do with what was in the bill. That's why they never bothered to read it. No matter what it had said they decided to vote NO long before there was even a first draft. But it was available prior to the final vote. I know because I read it - no not every word - I concede I read closely only the sections of particular interest to me, but I did have the opportunity to read it all, which means that so did every Member of Congress.

    I would give John Boehner a pass, though. I can sympathize with a man who would put his golf game ahead of the best interests of the nation LOL

    congress john boehner pass sympathize golf game nation lol boehner golf

    And as for Senator Collins, I'd say that until I hear what you have to say I DON'T have all the answers I need.

    sympathize golf game nation lol senator collins hear answers wink
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/18 22:52:20 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    As I mentioned ... those who did have a inkling were soon quieted when everything went behind closed doors ... and we know they weren't Dems!!!

    Ah jeezz I have to read more of your "stuff" so you will feel satisfied! lol

    Okay here's my take, on Collins, you've blown it out of proportion with your usual lean towards the leftist reporting of events.

    A spokesman for Collins confirmed a staffer alerted police after they got a letter from Feal on Wednesday, warning that responders planned to sit in at Senate offices until they got answers or police hauled them away.

    The spokesman insisted Collins was never worried, and would never prevent responders from visiting. The call was standard procedure, he said.Collins even offered her strongest support yet for the bill after staffers met Feal and the others.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ne...
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/19 02:01:26
    StarrGazerr
    I guess I can understand why a Republican Senator would need police protection at the thought that an American citizen might come to her office, ask a question, and actually expect an answer.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/19 02:23:38
    Arizona1950
    I guess you missed the part that reads, "The call was standard procedure" which I would take to mean the Dems are also law-abiding citizens and would adhere to the same.
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/19 14:19:46
    StarrGazerr
    I guess I did. Here's the entire article, unedited. I've looked and I've looked and I can't find the words "standard procedure" anywhere. Could you please point them out?

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    Republican senator calls cops on 9/11 responders

    By Daniel Tencer
    Thursday, December 16th, 2010 -- 5:58 pm
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    Republican senator calls cops on 9/11 responders

    A group of nine 9/11 first responders who arrived in Washington, DC, to pressure Congress into passing a health care bill were met with an unwelcome surprise: A police escort, courtesy of Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine.

    Collins called Capitol Police when she heard the activists were planning to arrive on the Hill and stay in senators' offices until they had the 60 votes needed to overcome a GOP filibuster of the health care bill for 9/11 responders, the New York Daily News reports.

    But Collins's office apparently sensed the bad publicity a move like that would no doubt cause, because her staffers soon offered tepid support for the bill, telling the responders it will pass if it comes onto the Senate floor.

    WNBC reports:

    The potentially tense situation began when a staff member for Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) "informed Capitol Police yesterday that we expected a large group of people to visi...
























    I guess I did. Here's the entire article, unedited. I've looked and I've looked and I can't find the words "standard procedure" anywhere. Could you please point them out?

    - - - - - -

    Republican senator calls cops on 9/11 responders

    By Daniel Tencer
    Thursday, December 16th, 2010 -- 5:58 pm
    submit to reddit Stumble This!
    463Share
    27diggsdigg

    Republican senator calls cops on 9/11 responders

    A group of nine 9/11 first responders who arrived in Washington, DC, to pressure Congress into passing a health care bill were met with an unwelcome surprise: A police escort, courtesy of Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine.

    Collins called Capitol Police when she heard the activists were planning to arrive on the Hill and stay in senators' offices until they had the 60 votes needed to overcome a GOP filibuster of the health care bill for 9/11 responders, the New York Daily News reports.

    But Collins's office apparently sensed the bad publicity a move like that would no doubt cause, because her staffers soon offered tepid support for the bill, telling the responders it will pass if it comes onto the Senate floor.

    WNBC reports:

    The potentially tense situation began when a staff member for Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) "informed Capitol Police yesterday that we expected a large group of people to visit the office today," said Kevin Kelley, a spokesman for the Senator.

    "The intent was never to discourage the visit, nor were Capitol police ever asked to intervene," said Kelley. "In fact, the group had a very insightful discussion with Senator Collins' Staff Director on the Senate Homeland Security Committee about the 9/11 health bill."

    "I'm deeply disappointed in Sen. Collins for calling the Capitol Police, but they welcomed us with open arms," said John Feal, a demolition supervisor whose foot was crushed by metal in the World Trade Center wreckage.

    "I'm more disappointed that Susan Collins is hiding behind ideology, and now the police, to stop from helping us," he added. "And the people she called to stop us, are just like us. It's a little ironic."

    The $7.4-billion bill, meant to help those who got sick from exposure to toxic dust and other hazards in the World Trade Center collapse, was defeated in the Senate last week when Republicans filibustered it. It went down in a test vote, 57 to 42. Republicans said they would not support any bill until the extension of the Bush tax cuts was completed.

    The move drew outrage from Democrats, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and even Comedy Central's Jon Stewart.

    "The attacks of 9/11 were attacks on America," Bloomberg said, "and we have a collective responsibility to care for the heroes — from all 50 states — who answered the call of duty, saved lives, and helped our nation recover."

    "Since when does the Republican Party make 9/11 first responders stand over in the corner with the gays and Mexicans?" Stewart joked.

    With the Bush tax cuts now a presidential signature away from law, some Republican senators are signaling that they will back the measure.

    According to the Daily News, staffers at both Sen. Collins' office and the office of Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski have said they expect the health care bill to pass.

    The James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act would provide free health care and compensation payments to responders who suffered illness from exposure to toxins at the World Trade Center site.

    CORRECTION: The original version of this story identified Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe as the senator who called police on the 9/11 responders. It was in fact Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME). Raw Story apologizes for the error.
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  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/19 15:08:00
    Arizona1950
    I posted it above with the link to the NY Daily News but now the link has disappeared. Okay, let me see if I can re-find it ...

    Darn it SG, all I can find is the left-wing crap. You will have to take my word that what I posted above was a legitimate post and link. I just went back to Ask.com and I can't pull up any article and Google shows a left-wing bias in each of its links.
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/19 15:56:44
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    You are correct. In the Daily News article one of Collins' spokespeople does say it's "standard procedure". However, I don't think someone whose job it is to protect Collins from bad publicity is entirely objective, and even at that, it's not clear whether he means that it's "standard procedure" for all Senators or just for Senator Collins.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ne...
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/19 16:55:39 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Thank you for finding it ... that was really nice of you.

    I don't know, I took the spokesman's word that it is standard procedure which would mean for all. It is in all likelihood a Standard Operating Procedure to make sure the Rep and all elected are protected should there be a problem when a large group is coming to debate an issue. It seem pretty silly not to have such an SOP in place is my take on it.
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/19 17:01:43
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    Admittedly the following is just my personal opinion but -- Given the issue and the people who were coming to Washington because of it, I don't think I would have expected such a group to be violent or destructive, and I also wouldn't consider nine people to be so large a group as to be inherently difficult to manage. If a problem developed once they got there, I have to assume that every Senator's office has some sort of "panic button" to summon the Capitol Police quickly. It seems to me that it was something of an overreaction on the part of Collins' staff. But as I said, that's just my opinion.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/19 17:05:12 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    SG we both know it only takes one nut to turn a peaceful assembly into a tragedy. It took only one nut to walk into a church and kill a Dr. One nut to shoot Pres. Reagan. One nut to kill JFK, RFK, and MLK. I don't hold your view on this one at all.
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/20 02:25:32
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    Well, by that reasoning then, every time ANYONE walks into a Senator's office they should call the cops.

    I agree with you regarding Reagan, and probably RFK, but each of the other examples you provide is likely (or proven) to be part of a large conspiracy. It's been almost half a century since JFK's assassination and I have yet to be convinced that Oswald acted alone, or even that he was involved as anything more than a setup. The man arrested for MLK's assassination was innocent, and there is at least some evidence to suggest that he was killed at the orders of J. Edgar Hoover. And as for Dr. George Tiller, with Bill O'Reilly publicly calling for his assassination, and with the usual rabid support of the anti-choice nutjobs, that assassination can hardly be described as a random event.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/20 02:38:21
    Arizona1950
    Tsk Tsk my friend, you took that out of context now didn't you. [giggle] ... C'mon admit it!

    My take is that I would think it reckless if there was not an SOP in place to protect our elected when a group plans to come to an elected's office to discuss the way they are going to vote. Especially when the vote is going to effect them positively or negatively depending on the direction the elected was leaning.

    But, more so because where it may be public knowledge that a group was going to assemble it would not be unheard of for a nut to follow the group in ...
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/20 03:23:36
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    "it only takes one nut to turn a peaceful assembly into a tragedy". What's the context? One of the most basic responsibilities of all elected officials is to meet with their constituents to discuss the issues of the day. The Constitution itself protects the right of citizens " to petition the Government for a redress of grievances". Should all political figures follow Sarah Palin's lead and only meet with people who agree to never ask questions she doesn't like or can't answer (like "what newspaper do you read")?

    By the way, in case you haven't found this one yet, the Wasilla Disaster did it again LOL

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/20 03:33:33
    Arizona1950
    Hmmm .. my mind is so somewhere else but I will try to give a reaonable explanation.

    I said, "it only takes one nut to turn a peaceful assembly into a tragedy". You said, "What's the context?"

    I meant in relationship to a possibly hostile group showing up, although coming in a peaceful manner, that it would only take one nut to turn a peaceful assembly into a tragedy. So I would think that there are certain things in place to avoid a tragedy or have a quick response should one occur. Now, do I know this as fact no I do not.

    Sarah Palin is no different than when we have 3 running for office and only certain questions are to asked on just about any debate forum or on a single interview with say Oprah Winfrey.

    Now, let me go read your link ...
  • Arizona... Arizona... 2010/12/20 03:50:46
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Okay, I read the link ... it was her book signing engagement. Several anti-Palin fans were asked to leave so those who were there legititmately would not be subjected to their views or whatever. Personally, good for her - why should she be subjected to such nonesense at a book signing.

    Anyone who knows me will tell you I am not a Palin fan, but if the mood struck me to attend a book signing I would be respectful and look forward to shaking her hand.
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/20 04:21:03
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    Be careful if you do. You wouldn't want to smudge her next speech LOL.

    careful smudge speech lol palin hand

    [I'm sorry - it's late and I couldn't resist LOL.]
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/20 04:29:19
    Arizona1950
    +1
    LOL ... good one. Really. Even when tired you don't lose your touch ... [giggle]
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/21 03:11:31
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    When we lose our sense of humor all is lost.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/21 03:38:57
    Arizona1950
    Now I know why I keep coming back, you amuse me. [giggle] Or perhaps, I am lost, I wandered over to the dark side and am looking for the light or for the wicked witch's broom or or or ... :-)
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/20 04:26:20
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    I still can't see where a group of 9/11 Responders seeking medical care is a "possibly hostile group" And do you really think that groups planning something dangerous or illegal really send letters about it ahead of time?

    The difference between Palin and a debate is that in a debate the candidates don't get to pick the questions, and the candidates don't get to decide which of the questions they want to answer.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/20 04:32:52
    Arizona1950
    If it there is an SOP then it was out of Collin's hands wouldn't you agree? Also, I thought the 9/11 Responders were there because they wanted to give reason (push) for her to vote a certain way.

    It was watching Palin in debate when running as VP that made me think she was not ready. Personally, I think she's getting better. Jeesh, now I got this feeling I should not have said that. lol
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/21 03:09:43
    StarrGazerr
    No I wouldn't agree. Nowhere in any of the reports (including the one you posted) did anyone even intimate that Collins' office called in the cops because they "had to" or "were supposed to".

    If when a group of nine people send a letter saying they are coming to Washington to talk to a politician about something they "have to" call the cops, then does that mean that the White House calls the DC police when last year's World Series winners visit the White House?

    No, you shouldn't have. It isn't just that Palin is woefully ignorant about every issue the country faces. Lots of people aren't expert on the details. It's not that she doesn't KNOW; it's that she doesn't CARE. I think she honestly believes that ANYTHING in the Constitution can be ignored if it's politically advantageous to do so. She's not just an idiot. There are lots of idiots in all of our political parties. It's that she's a DANGEROUS idiot.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2010/12/21 03:42:26 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    Well, if it is an SOP then the police would be called if the World Series Winners were visting a particular politician because they felt said politician was trying to steal their ball!

    Also ... are you using caps at me!!! I've got just the thing for that young man ... ha!

    politician felt politician steal ball caps ive young ha
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2010/12/21 14:40:50
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    LOL I tend to use caps for emphasis because it's a pain in the you know what to use bold or underlining. (And yes I and many others have asked SH to make formatting comments easier.)
  • seattleman 2010/12/18 09:56:01
    seattleman
    +1
    Why are the GOP Senators still fillibustering this bill? Honestly, I have no idea. I mean, they got their ransom, so why are they still holding hostages?? Well, I guess we had better give them whatever (else) they want now. We wouldn't want people to get hurt, right? (Heavy sarcasm, in case anybody missed my point)
  • Liza Jane 2010/12/18 01:22:58
    Liza Jane
    The GOP never ceases to reveal it's hypocrisy.

    9/11 isn't useful for their politics anymore so they'd rather throw the first responders out with the garbage than help them.
  • Emma 2010/12/17 19:27:34
    Emma
    Extremely shameful.
  • Fannie 2010/12/17 14:25:42
    Fannie
    +1
    She was wrong, end of story.
  • Arty 2010/12/17 14:22:13
    Arty
    +1
    Way to go GOP continually talking out of your ass !! hypocrite reactionary bastards
  • Che Guevara - Hero 2010/12/17 14:18:08
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +5
    Typical GOP response. What a shame more people aren't showing more support for our 9/11 responders.
  • Arty Che Gue... 2010/12/17 14:24:02
    Arty
    And they will probably get reelected .. America is in an anomalous state under Republican control how sad

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