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GOP prepares to file lawsuit against Holder. Isn't it time for them to focus on something else like creating jobs?

tblackb 2012/08/03 19:42:46
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  • Pat 2012/08/03 20:05:02
    Yes
    Pat
    +5
    The GOP will do anything to avoid helping people with jobs or with lowering middleclass taxes. This is a clear as the nose on Romney's face. Romney liar

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  • Haightbear 2012/08/07 18:35:26
    Yes
    Haightbear
    Rachel calls it, "Jobortion"
  • Q 2012/08/06 21:41:16
    Yes
    Q
    Just in time to make the president look bad by association right before the upcoming election, who ever would have thunk it? Typical sleazy campaign tactics by the republicans who put their priority of getting back in power over doing whats in the nations best interest during the worst economic crisis since the great depression. Darrel Issa is a political hack, no doubt about it.
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  • jackolantyrn356 2012/08/04 04:19:48
    Undecided
    jackolantyrn356
    tHE sHERIFF;S EXAMINATION OF oBAMA NEEDS TO BE STEPPED UP ALSO.
  • aherbert 2012/08/03 22:10:01
    Yes
    aherbert
    +2
    The GOP only agenda is to obstruct President Obama to the detriment of America ... that is what that pathetic party is all about.

    gop bastards

    gop evil bastards
  • Evil 1 2012/08/03 20:59:17
    No
    Evil 1
    +1
    Holder needs to be held accountable. As for jobs. Obama and the Democrats are just as gulity as the Republicans for stalling and impeding growth with their political BS. But regardless of the job situation to give Holder a pass is unacceptable.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/03 21:14:47
    tblackb
    +1
    accountable for what exactly? that battle has been fought, move on already!
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/04 05:12:49
    Evil 1
    The battle has not been fought. The battle is his involvment in fast and furious which led to the death of at least two border agents and countless Mexican citizens. His contempt of Congress has also yet to be addressed. So the only ones that want this to 'move on' are those that are afraid of where the trail may lead and who else was involved. I bet if it was one of your relatives that was killed you would singing a different song or if it were a Republican president and administration you would be screaming for a full scale investigation.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/04 13:54:28
    tblackb
    +1
    the courts said they will not hear case against Holder; game over!
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/04 18:33:15 (edited)
    Evil 1
    That does not stop Congressional contempt charges. So game is not over. And you should brush up on the law and the powers of Congress as you are absolutely incorrect in your assumption that they cannot hold Holder accountable. Here is a little information that will help educate you:

    "Contempt of Congress is the act of obstructing the work of the United States Congress or one of its committees. Historically the bribery of a senator or representative was considered contempt of Congress. In modern times, contempt of Congress has generally applied to the refusal to comply with a subpoena issued by a Congressional committee or subcommittee — usually seeking to compel either testimony or the production of documents.

    Congressional rules empower all its standing committees with the authority to compel witnesses to produce testimony and documents for subjects under its jurisdiction. Committee rules may provide for the full Committee to issue a subpoena, or permit subcommittees or the Chairman (acting alone or with the ranking member) to issue subpoenas.

    Following the refusal of a witness to produce documents or to testify, the Committee is entitled to report a resolution of contempt to its parent chamber. A Committee may also cite a person for contempt but not immediately report th...







    That does not stop Congressional contempt charges. So game is not over. And you should brush up on the law and the powers of Congress as you are absolutely incorrect in your assumption that they cannot hold Holder accountable. Here is a little information that will help educate you:

    "Contempt of Congress is the act of obstructing the work of the United States Congress or one of its committees. Historically the bribery of a senator or representative was considered contempt of Congress. In modern times, contempt of Congress has generally applied to the refusal to comply with a subpoena issued by a Congressional committee or subcommittee — usually seeking to compel either testimony or the production of documents.

    Congressional rules empower all its standing committees with the authority to compel witnesses to produce testimony and documents for subjects under its jurisdiction. Committee rules may provide for the full Committee to issue a subpoena, or permit subcommittees or the Chairman (acting alone or with the ranking member) to issue subpoenas.

    Following the refusal of a witness to produce documents or to testify, the Committee is entitled to report a resolution of contempt to its parent chamber. A Committee may also cite a person for contempt but not immediately report the resolution to the floor. In the case of subcommittees, they report the resolution of contempt to the full Committee, which then has the option of rejecting it, accepting it but not reporting it to the floor, or accepting it and reporting it to the floor of the chamber for action. On the floor of the House or the Senate, the reported resolution is considered privileged and, if the resolution of contempt is passed, the chamber has several options to enforce its mandate.

    Under this process, the procedure for holding a person in contempt involves only the chamber concerned. Following a contempt citation, the person cited is arrested by the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House or Senate, brought to the floor of the chamber, held to answer charges by the presiding officer, and then subjected to punishment as the chamber may dictate (usually imprisonment for punishment reasons, imprisonment for coercive effect, or release from the contempt citation).

    Following a contempt citation, the presiding officer of the chamber is instructed to refer the matter to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia;[9] according to the law it is the "duty" of the U.S. Attorney to refer the matter to a grand jury for action.

    The criminal offense of "contempt of Congress" sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $1,000.[10]"

    Hence it is far from game over.
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  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/04 19:29:20 (edited)
    tblackb
    +1
    i think you need to take a look at that because its up to federal courts to put him on trial for contempt and they've said no...

    along with executive order...game over; move on
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/04 23:22:01
    Evil 1
    Again you are totally wrong. And the Executive order in no way trumps Congressional conyempt charges. All the order did was stop the evidence from being released. Furthermore that order can be overridden. Again, do some research as you are completely wrong in your assessment.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/05 13:46:04
    tblackb
    k, hold your breath and wait for him to be tried. the civil suit, if filed, won't gain any traction.
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/05 13:49:55 (edited)
    Evil 1
    That's your opinion. You have no way of knowing if it will hold water or whether it won't. No one does until it occurs. But to state it cannot happen and their there is no basis is nothing more than a non-factual, incorrect statement. There is merit and it can move forward. So I shouldn't be the one holding my breath as I am looking at the facts. Now you on the other hand.......

    By the way if you understood Congressional contempt you would realize that it doesn't have to proceed with a civil trial. Again you should read up on exaclty what the law states about a charge of Congressional contempt and exactly what proceeding can occur rather than make erroneous statements.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/05 13:51:40
    tblackb
    this is not the first time something like this has happened this country and not the last. how many people have you know to be tried for it? exactly!
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/05 23:50:37
    Evil 1
    Nice try in avoiding the facts. It doesn't matter who has previously been tried. Holder is being held in comtempt and he could very well be tried. Seems you want to avoid the facts with innuendos. Sorry but innuendos, assumptions and wishful thinking in no way make the facts and truth go away.

    Also what happened with your assessment that he couldn't be tried? Again do some research and enlighten yourself.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/06 01:32:13
    tblackb
    wait an see then get back to me in a couple of months
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/06 11:29:27
    Evil 1
    If you think this matter will come to culmination within the next couple of months you prove beyond any doubt whatsoever that you have no idea of what a Congressional contempt charge entails. Again, do some research and educate yourself.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/06 13:31:21
    tblackb
    its dead now. there is no way a sitting US AG is going to be put on trial. i said that from the beginning.
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/06 13:32:55
    Evil 1
    And again you are totally wrong as you are speculating and have no factual basis to back you up.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/06 15:58:08
    tblackb
    k, we shall see...history is my evidence
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/06 16:03:19
    Evil 1
    What history? Provide the facts. There is no history to base your assumption on, only your opinion.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/06 16:45:45
    tblackb
    name ONE US Attorney General that has been out on trial; that history!
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/06 16:49:04
    Evil 1
    That in no way proves that it won't happen. You can't be serious. What ridiculous logic.
  • tblackb Evil 1 2012/08/06 21:21:47
    tblackb
    +1
    k, wait & c
  • Evil 1 tblackb 2012/08/06 23:26:54
    Evil 1
    I plan on doing so, you do the same.
  • Theresa 2012/08/03 20:44:32
    No
    Theresa
    +1
    Holder is a Criminal and needs to be ousted!
  • tblackb Theresa 2012/08/03 20:46:47
    tblackb
    +1
    what law did he break; again?
  • Theresa tblackb 2012/08/03 22:27:06
    Theresa
    +1
    Ever heard of a So called Gov't program of shipping arms to Mexican Drug Cartels to force the USA citizens to believe a lie? This is called Fast and Furious? There were so many laws broken by this cynical act!
  • tblackb Theresa 2012/08/05 13:44:25
    tblackb
    you still didn't name a law. this type of thing has been happening since our government's inception. remember oliver north? he didn't act alone...
  • Theresa tblackb 2012/08/05 19:51:24
    Theresa
    Laws broken? Logan Act. Transporting guns across our Countries border is an act of War. and these things do not concern you?
  • tblackb Theresa 2012/08/05 19:58:16
    tblackb
    first, its a bush program. why no cry for the heads of anyone from his administration? second, it happens all the time; its nothing new!
  • Aurora 2012/08/03 20:07:20
    No
    Aurora
    +1
    Obama and the democrats already focused on jobs and look where that got us. You had 2 freaking years of total control of democrats and you passed Healthcare, their are many bills that passed in the house and Harry Pederast Reid Shelved them.
  • aherbert Aurora 2012/08/03 20:20:34
    aherbert
    +4
    The President had two freaking years with tea bagging obstructionist in congress obstructing all of his initiatives … and you know that… therefore keep it real and tell me once again why he shouldn’t have four more years in office?
  • tblackb aherbert 2012/08/03 20:41:00
    tblackb
    +1
    agreed
  • Aurora aherbert 2012/08/04 12:57:58
    Aurora
    But the democrats owned the whitehouse, senate and house they passed obamacare that is what they focused on and the 787 billion stimulus, dude you can screech all day long but the American people know who did what. In 2010 the House was swept of democrats and went to republican control, the American People had enough. The republicans are a minority in the senate, the house republicans pass bills and they are shelved in the Senate By Harry Reid the guy that just accused Romney on the senate floor by saying he had a source that he did not pay his taxes, you are a desperate liberal name caller and ass hat. Do all Liberals lie, or are liberals just liars. I smell the stink of desperation.
  • aherbert Aurora 2012/08/05 03:32:12
    aherbert
    +2
    You people are just delusional and twist the facts ... I will not waste my time bantering with you ... mark twain arguing with stupid
  • tblackb Aurora 2012/08/03 20:40:06
    tblackb
    +1
    just shut down the government until January 20, 2013; six months from now?
  • Bilingual required sucks 2012/08/03 20:06:53
    Yes
    Bilingual required sucks
    +2
    They would rather spend their time literally bringing the government to a halt.
  • Pat 2012/08/03 20:05:02
    Yes
    Pat
    +5
    The GOP will do anything to avoid helping people with jobs or with lowering middleclass taxes. This is a clear as the nose on Romney's face. Romney liar
  • Scott 2012/08/03 20:04:44
    No
    Scott
    +2
    Unlike liberals, conservatives are capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

    For example, the House has sent dozens of Jobs bill to the Democrat Senate and Reid doesn't even give the courtesy of putting them to a vote! And then has the balls to join in the complaint against the 'Republican Party of No'

    The Republicans can present budgets for approval time after time. (The USA hasn't had a budget since, well since Obama's been in office!)

    We can also bring suit against Holder.

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