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"Google reports 'alarming' rise in censorship by governments" What are you thoughts on this?

XENON23 2012/06/18 18:14:51
Search engine company has said there has been a troubling increase in requests to remove political content from the internet

Read More: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/18/g...

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  • Zuggi 2012/06/18 18:19:11
    Zuggi
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    I'm going to repost what I posted earlier because I like your thread better.

    http://www.google.com/transpa...

    I'd be careful about calling those all government actions. Here's the fuller breakdown of takedown requests, charted by reason for takedown request and source of request.

    It looks like the majority are from court orders. A court order is a different beast than a government request; it's harder to corrupt the system and is generally based on a legal requirement. For instance, in the defamation category 53 came from court orders (which are probably legitimate) and 5 came from executive/police sources (which I'd be far, far more leery of).

    Some of the requests also may be legitimate. For instance, 10 requests to take down 14 youtube videos for violence could be reasonable. Look at the controversy about the second-rate porn star who videotaped himself murdering the guy in Canada; I think taking that down would be a reasonable request. However, it's impossible to tell from this data whether those requests are reasonable like that or unreasonable (like "oops, we got filmed beating a guy, that's VIOLENCE!").

    Even the smaller number of executive/police takedown requests are still troubling.

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  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/06/18 22:01:17
    Diane Spraggs Yates
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    Socialist, Marxist that how they win, lie, cheat, curb speech------Google reports 'alarming' rise in censorship by governments" Then name calling anyone that disagrees !!!!!
  • Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/06/18 21:01:50
  • Magnus ... Magnus ... 2012/06/18 21:02:12
  • ashdragon88 2012/06/18 18:20:51
    ashdragon88
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    Not surprising, governments love to control what information we can and cannot access because the less knowledge people have the easier they are to control.
  • All American 2012/06/18 18:19:36
    All American
    I'm afraid I'm going to have to block you.
  • XENON23 All Ame... 2012/06/18 18:22:28
    XENON23
    Why?
  • All Ame... XENON23 2012/06/18 18:28:04
    All American
    +1
    It's just a joke, your post is about censorship.
  • XENON23 All Ame... 2012/06/18 18:41:41
    XENON23
    +1
    I thought so but was not sure...Thanks
  • All Ame... XENON23 2012/06/18 18:42:25
    All American
    +1
    I'm just being a goofball.
  • XENON23 All Ame... 2012/06/18 22:11:33
    XENON23
    +1
    I can be that way at times too.
  • Zuggi 2012/06/18 18:19:11
    Zuggi
    +3
    I'm going to repost what I posted earlier because I like your thread better.

    http://www.google.com/transpa...

    I'd be careful about calling those all government actions. Here's the fuller breakdown of takedown requests, charted by reason for takedown request and source of request.

    It looks like the majority are from court orders. A court order is a different beast than a government request; it's harder to corrupt the system and is generally based on a legal requirement. For instance, in the defamation category 53 came from court orders (which are probably legitimate) and 5 came from executive/police sources (which I'd be far, far more leery of).

    Some of the requests also may be legitimate. For instance, 10 requests to take down 14 youtube videos for violence could be reasonable. Look at the controversy about the second-rate porn star who videotaped himself murdering the guy in Canada; I think taking that down would be a reasonable request. However, it's impossible to tell from this data whether those requests are reasonable like that or unreasonable (like "oops, we got filmed beating a guy, that's VIOLENCE!").

    Even the smaller number of executive/police takedown requests are still troubling.
  • XENON23 Zuggi 2012/06/18 18:26:40
    XENON23
    I am not calling any thing any thing...I am just posting the news that I am reading. I try not to put any of my opinions in the post.

    And I do agree with you that many of the requests are called for.

    Please try to remember that I just post the new and I may agree or disagree with the content.
  • Zuggi XENON23 2012/06/18 18:29:20
    Zuggi
    +2
    No, I know. And I'm not shouting you down. But if we really want to know if these are legitimate or whether they're restraining free speech, we need to know more.
  • XENON23 Zuggi 2012/06/18 18:42:48
    XENON23
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    And I always hope people will share more info on a topic I post. Thanks
  • Ken 2012/06/18 18:16:34

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