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GM's Ongoing Tax Break From Uncle Barack

snipe 2012/08/04 21:40:39

General Motors didn't have a very good second quarter, as the Associated Press's Tom Krisher duly noted on Thursday.

What Krisher didn't note, and what almost no one in the establishment press ever notes, is the fact that the company doesn't have to pay any income taxes on its U.S. profits until it uses up losses carried forward from before its 2009 bankruptcy filing accompanied by at least $50 billion in government capitalization -- something other companies emerging from bankruptcy are almost never allowed to do. Based on the company's reported North American income for the quarter of $2 billion, most of which would have been realized on U.S. business, taxpayers subsidized the company to the tune of several hundred million dollars in just three months.

Another item the press routinely ignores is how high its dealers' inventories are, as seen in the company-published graphic which follows:

This is significant for two reasons. First, since the company, in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, recognizes a vehicle sale when it leaves the plant, it's booking revenues far in advance of when a consumer actually ends up buying it. Second, if the vehicle market heads south in the coming months, and there is some reason to believe this is already happening (GM was down 6% year over year in June, and Ford was down 4%; most other makers did well, but GM and Ford may be bellwethers), dealers will be forced to slash prices to move their merchandise, and will push back hard if the company tries to force too many vehicles onto their already crowded lots.

Don't ever expect the press to spend a lot of time on this -- at least while President Obama continues to tout the GM bailout as one of his administration's signature achievements.



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  • Don 2012/09/10 14:26:40
    Don
    +1
    http://www.reuters.com/articl...
    More democrap fraud on their GM boasts.
  • HOMBRE 2012/08/31 18:50:11
    HOMBRE
    +1
    A little cronyism going on here. Let me guess they excused from Obamacare to?
  • redhorse29 2012/08/05 07:18:04
    redhorse29
    +2
    Government Motor Company would not exist and will not exist without continued government funding. The unions and government will never allow it to be truly self sustaining and free of government tax money. Another failed Obama financial solution.
  • Matt 2012/08/05 04:01:04 (edited)
    Matt
    +2
    GM has moved all of its profits overseas and domesticated all of their losses. It is their intention to bankrupt their government insured pension plan. No president wants this to happen on his watch, hence the bailouts.
  • JT For Political Reform 2012/08/05 02:42:52
    JT For Political Reform
    +2
    I heard from a very good source and a friend of mine who works in the automotive world for a supplier to all the auto companies that GM is going down for the count, they are in very deep trouble. This person claims this is coming insiders that work for GM who are very worried about their jobs.
  • snipe JT For ... 2012/08/05 03:23:25
    snipe
    +1
    I believe it.
  • T. Bejma JT For ... 2012/08/30 18:41:17
    T. Bejma
    I work at GM (and my opinions are my own) and can tell you that things internally have never looked better. The products coming out are industry and quality leading and there is plenty of money in the bank. The recent loss of market share is simply the swinging of the pendulum back from the higher than normal share last year during the natural disasters in the AP region. The key is that even at the reduced market share, the streamlined operations and increased transaction prices at GM are still keeping us well above the break even point.

    Preach your sky is falling rhetoric somewhere else...
  • JT For ... T. Bejma 2012/08/30 19:18:25
    JT For Political Reform
    +1
    I got news for ya...79% of GM sales are by the government or through it and that's a fact. They are still using your tax dollars and mine to promote a loser. I don't give a damn if you work for them because the only thing I see with most of the people that work there is the fact they think Obama saved GM. Well they did in China but not here bud. Our money went to build plants in China to employ Chinese. You got to put the crack pipe down.
  • snipe JT For ... 2012/08/31 00:24:13
    snipe
    +1
    70% of GM's product is built in foreign countries and 70% of their employees are based in those foreign countries. Shanghai GM is the official Gm Corporate Headquarters regardless of what they say. When GM touts sales figures those are worldwide sales figures not just US sales.
  • JT For ... snipe 2012/08/31 10:57:43
    JT For Political Reform
    +1
    I used to buy GM products until the government took over. I will never buy another GM brand. I've switched to Ford who build their cars without our tax dollars.
  • snipe JT For ... 2012/08/31 18:25:33
    snipe
    +1
    Lol. I just bought the first Ford product I ever owned in my entire life.
  • T. Bejma JT For ... 2012/09/06 18:53:12
    T. Bejma
    Read "American Icon" and you will see that the only reason Ford did not need the bailout is because they were 3 months from going bankrupt in 2007 when they could still get loans. So they mortgaged the entire company (even the blue oval trademark) and filled up their bank account to survive. It wasn't any great strategy - it was dumb luck. Now Ford is one of the only companies that still owes the government money:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/j...
  • JT For ... T. Bejma 2012/09/06 19:44:57
    JT For Political Reform
    I know all about Ford, they even sold the blue oval until recently when they bought it back. Ford borrowed from banks just like common folk do to run a business.

    GM should have went through the Chapter 11 process because that is what chapter 11 was set up for. Instead, you had a group of people that never ran a damn thing taking our money and throwing it at something they had no clue about. Wasting billions in the process, if it would have gone under Chapter 11, the end game would have been putting less money towards GM to help it's survival and all would have been better off. Instead they liquidated old GM and the money disappeared into thin air on that and the money thrown at GM went to building GM plants in China to employ Chinese.

    The other screw up by our government was throwing money at Chrysler when Fiat had planed to buy them but stopped in their tracks when Fiat found out that the government was going to buy it for them.
  • T. Bejma JT For ... 2012/09/06 20:04:35
    T. Bejma
    Normal Chapter 11 was impossible due to the mess that the banks were in at the time. Without available credit to keep operations going, most of the supply base (that was living paycheck to paycheck themselves) would have went under as well. That would have taken down Ford (who was mortgaged to the hilt) and then left the auto industry to the Chinese who would have loved to have come in and picked up the entire industry. American needs manufacturing and without it, will not survive, that is a fact...
  • T. Bejma snipe 2012/09/06 18:50:16
    T. Bejma
    100% of GM's product that is sold in the US is manufactured in North America. Guess what? The US is not the biggest market anymore, China is, and in the global market, the US is only 30%. Imagine that...
  • JT For ... T. Bejma 2012/09/06 19:46:37
    JT For Political Reform
    No product in the car world is 100% made in America.
  • T. Bejma JT For ... 2012/09/06 19:59:42
    T. Bejma
    Correct, assembled in a North American Automotive Assembly Plant is what I should have said.
  • T. Bejma JT For ... 2012/09/06 18:48:24
    T. Bejma
    That's not news, it's misunderstanding of the information provided. The 79% number was the amount of the government portion of the fleet sales (overall fleet sales are about 25% of all sales) ROSE in July. The fact is the government portion of all of the overall sales is about 5% and the increase this summer was attributed to an increase in state and local government, not the federal.

    Read the update at the bottom of the story...
    http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/...
  • Rabbit 2012/08/05 02:22:30
    Rabbit
    +3
    Obi is not about saving an industry (GM), he's about saving the UAW.

    UAW
  • JT For ... Rabbit 2012/08/05 12:01:24
    JT For Political Reform
    +2
    Yeah, at lower wages with no bennies for doing the same job the other guys were doing with better wages and bennies. Lower wages = less taxes, less paid into Social Security etc., Yep, throwing our tax dollars at GM really saved the world....LOL.
  • Rabbit JT For ... 2012/08/06 04:35:46
    Rabbit
    +2
    If the UAW flounders, so does Obama's purse. It's why he always touts union job creation...teachers, police, construction, etc. All union jobs. It's called "greasing the palm". I'm guessing he learned that move from his friend Adolf.

    Adolf obama
  • JT For ... Rabbit 2012/08/31 18:47:38
    JT For Political Reform
    +1
    Most likely he learned it from his communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis. I think Frankie was greasing little Obies butt cheeks while teaching how vile America is.
  • Rabbit JT For ... 2012/09/01 00:46:10
    Rabbit
    +1
    Sounds plausible.
  • OneOfTheAmericanPeople 2012/08/05 01:30:48
    OneOfTheAmericanPeople
    +3
    I could vommit right now from the crap this idiot does
  • Red Branch 2012/08/05 01:24:04
    Red Branch
    +2
    GM as in Government Motors.
  • ed 2012/08/04 22:43:28
    ed
    +2
    that's awful sweet of obama to to that for GM,I just wonder how many more companies get the same free pass?
  • Schläue~© 2012/08/04 22:12:53
    Schläue~©
    +2
    0bozo's special Olympics.
    Guess we never knew unril now that GMC actually meant General Motors China

    GMC
  • ☆astac☆ 2012/08/04 22:10:21
    ☆astac☆
    +2
    More lies from the obama admin
  • texasred 2012/08/04 22:00:44
    texasred
    +4
    And then add these to the mix:

    Government Motors: Feds keep expanding fleet of cars
    http://www.washingtontimes.co...

    Government Motors Spends $600M on UK Soccer Promo
    http://freebeacon.com/governm...

    The American taxpayer is getting reamed, big time!
  • snipe texasred 2012/08/04 22:17:18
    snipe
    +3
    Not to mention, that GM invests heavily in other Countries (Shanghai GM) and 70% of their product is made in those same Countries.

    GM has about 73,000 employees in the United States and about 266,000 people around the world. Now, there's some outsourcing for ya!
  • texasred snipe 2012/08/04 23:42:07
    texasred
    +3
    And we're paying for that outsourcing. Aaarrrrggghhhh!
  • snipe texasred 2012/08/05 00:00:16 (edited)
    snipe
    +3
    If GM is obama's "greatest accomplishment," I wonder what his worst is?
  • texasred snipe 2012/08/05 00:09:47
    texasred
    +3
    There's not enough room to list all his anti-American accomplishments.
  • Red_Horse 2012/08/04 21:50:14
  • Stoner 2012/08/04 21:49:59
    Stoner
    +2
    why not these cars?Hemp illegal .Why did we bail out the junk car makers?
    truth
  • Stoner Stoner 2012/08/04 21:52:12 (edited)
    Stoner
    +2
    Ford And Deisel Never
    Intended Cars
    To Use Gasoline
    http://rense.com/general67/FO...
  • flaca BN-0 2012/08/04 21:47:00
    flaca BN-0
    what about Romney's big $1.3bn tax break from the taxpayer to fix the Salt Lake City (winter) olympics?
  • Schläue~© flaca BN-0 2012/08/04 22:09:54
    Schläue~©
    +4
    Romney's tax break?

    I thought the Olympics were for the whole country and all those countries we invited to join us.

    I suppose we could have let some other country host the games and cut our losses ... eh?
  • flaca BN-0 Schläue~© 2012/08/04 22:13:45
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    hardly the whole country. Many Americans aren't even interested in the Olympics.
    The fact is Romney uses his supposed rescue of the winter (not the olympics, just the winter olympics) as a badge of honor. But he had govt. money to do it with. Isn't govt. money an anathema to republicans who hate government funding?
  • Schläue~© flaca BN-0 2012/08/04 22:49:48
    Schläue~©
    +3
    Newsflash, the Olympics alternate between Winter & Summer every two years and 2002 happened to be the Winter's turn. What does that have to do with anything?
    Actually, Salt Lake City would be very capable of hosting the Summer games as well. Romney not only saved the games (which were $350 Million in the hole already) but refused to take a salary and kicked in $1.4 million out of pocket.

    Yes, hosting the Olympics is a ''whole country effort". That began with the 1984 Los Angeles games when the Feds kicked in $100 Million. That figure multiplied by 6 and became $609 Million for the Atlanta 1996 games and doubled for the Salt Lake City games.

    Who knows what the cost would have been to make Chitcago presentable had 0bozo, the Wookie and her entourage of celebrities, (and multiple aircraft) put in a realistic argument for the 2016 games? However, the Olympic committee made a wise choice, knocked out the USA's murder capitol in the first round and Chitcago wasn't even considered.

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