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GM to Recall at Least 38,000 Cars; $25 Billion Loss on Auto Bailout

maggiemay 2012/08/14 18:29:34

On a day in which GM announced it was recalling at least 38,000 of its vehicles due to a crash risk, the Treasury Department said in a new report that it now expects to lose $25 billion on the auto bailout, which is $3.3 billion more than was previously forecast.


According to The Detroit News, the report may actually
underestimate the losses and comes on the day in which GM’s stock price
fell $.07 to $22.20 a share. At this price, the government, which spent
$50 billion of taxpayer monies to bailout GM, would lose another $850
million on its “investment” in GM.


The report notes the government still has 500 million
shares of GM and needs to sell those shares at $53 a share for the
government to break even on the GM bailout. This seems unlikely, and
officials said no sale will take place before the November election.


The government holds another 74 percent state in an auto
finance company, which is part of another bailout portfolio in which the
government invested $17.2 billion. They have only recovered $5.7 to
date.


And the recalls are not going to help GM become more profitable.


According to Reuters, over 38,000 Impalas -- including
36,413 police cars in the U.S. and 1,713 more in Canada -- from model
years 2008 to 2012 will be recalled, and the recalls should begin on
August 21st. Non-police versions will not be impacted.




National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
documents revealed that the cars are being recalled because defects “can
lead to loss of control of the car.”



Meanwhile GM’s CEO Dan Akerson said he would take actions
to boost the company’s stock price, and this could mean a doubling down
on the company’s subprime lending.
The Obama administration has crusaded against subprime lenders except
when those lenders -- like GM Financial -- can benefit the
administration politically


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  • none bman~AVA 2012/08/15 17:57:42
    none
    +2
    It is indeed.
  • bman~AVA none 2012/08/16 00:50:45
    bman~AVA
    +1
    That's what I believe is going on with Obama's voters.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/08/14 21:56:29
    Kane Fernau
    +2
    Obama's Fascist Dream
  • DJL 2012/08/14 21:50:05
    DJL
    +3
    Obama still wants to bail out other businesses like he did the auto industry. He must really need the union votes and campaign donations.
  • jimmy d DJL 2012/08/14 22:29:56
    jimmy d
    +2
    Just remember, “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.” That’s why Obama can take your profits that ought to be going to your family and your children and redistribute them to somebody who will vote for him.
  • luigi1- in god we trust 2012/08/14 21:15:32 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +4
    Cash for Clunkers was a losing operation before it left the drawing board.

    GM is the least of our worries.

    We should be asking why the media ain't covering the $3 Trillion Dollard Stimulus dissapearence & where the Shovel Ready Jobs Probram went.
  • none luigi1-... 2012/08/14 22:04:11
    none
    +3
    When the Fed gets it's hands on something they always seem to screw it up, they couldn't even run a used car lot. They could fu*k up a wet dream.
  • seadog6608PWCM 2012/08/14 20:48:51
  • maggiemay seadog6... 2012/08/14 21:13:46
    maggiemay
    +4
    Just a drop in the bucket for them.
  • luigi1-... maggiemay 2012/08/14 21:18:38
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +4
    Just wait till the bill comed due.
  • Josh Robinson 2012/08/14 20:42:17
    Josh Robinson
    +2
    Guess who still doesn't lose...? The crooks who bankrupted us, then scared up QE-1-2, stole it through bonuses and no-bid govt contracts, then placed (seated president here) in charge to keep them out of Prison. Those guys.... they don't lose. Now they're building up a military with the last bits of free money for when you finally start starving. Obamney 2012.
  • sbtbill 2012/08/14 20:23:45
    sbtbill
    +1
    Just why should the government sell those shares. GM is doing quite well. It is one of the worlds leading auto sellers. Let's keep them. Ford recently restarted paying dividends. If GM were to pay the same 5 cents a share that would mean that the government received $250,000 a quarter. Considering that dividends frequently go up in good times this would be a nice profit stream for the government.

    I suggest we should allow the social security fund to invest 10% of it's assets in private dividend paying equities. GM would be a good start.
  • maggiemay sbtbill 2012/08/14 20:36:12
    maggiemay
    +4
    Ford never borrowed money from the Government. The only car maker who hasn't. GM is still going broke. Invest your own money idiot.
  • MadAsHEck sbtbill 2012/08/14 22:32:37
    MadAsHEck
    +2
    Too bad you don't actually do total research before you put BS in here.

    Or perhaps just read the article first.

    We bought those shares for over $50 per share when the market said that GM would never again reach that point. Latest valuation is $20.21 per share and falling on the latest news of a loss of so much money on the Recalls..

    And Then there is this as of August 02, 2012.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

    My son was a salesman at the Local Chev dealer. He got laid off a few months ago as the dealer had to cut back on Employees due to no sales. After a 15 year career with the dealer. He says that the dealer is so overloaded with inventory that is not moving, the dealer is having trouble covering Payroll and expenses.
  • sbtbill MadAsHEck 2012/08/14 23:39:05
    sbtbill
    Auto's have been cyclical for decades. Today's price is just that. GM profits are down to just over a billion dollars. It has about 18% market share. Most of it's current decline is in the European market. The rule has always been buy on bad news and sell on good.

    Ford admits it was lucky. In 2007 it borrowed a great deal of money for liquidity purposes so it was flush with cash when the recession hit. That forced it to cut it's dividend. The stock eventually went to about $4 a share. It later peaked for the current cycle at 17. I expect it to hold steady for the next 6 months or so. Depending on the election I would then expect it to start back up with an Obama win or drop with a Romney win.

    However, I see no reason for the government to sell stock in a core US business. I have no idea if it will ever hit $50 again, but I do expect it to start paying dividends again.
  • Herb sbtbill 2012/08/15 02:34:01
    Herb
    +2
    pont is we will loose money no matter how much it grows. tax payer money should have never been used it paid the unions. they should have let it go into bankruptcy it would have been much better they could have paid their crediors and employees.
    pentions would have had to wait sorry. tax payer money should have not been used.3
    they are a private company. they built it they should have gone chapter 13 if needed chap 7.
  • sbtbill Herb 2012/08/15 03:21:53
    sbtbill
    It is the job of government to provide jobs. That is it's #1 function. In my opinion it did this with the GM bailout. 1) There was no financing available for a buyer for GM. The Japensese car companies were on life support from their own government as was most of Europe. There would have been no buyer even at firesale prices. 2) The loss of demand would have put under most of the supplier. Ford indicated that it would have put them under, too. It probably would have taken down several of the foreign companies as well. In all probabilities the creditors would have received less then they did and I realize that was almost nothing. Using tax payer money in that situation was the right thing to do and if it happens we should do it again.
  • Tracie ... sbtbill 2012/08/15 11:54:21
    Tracie Richards
    +1
    I'm curious. How did you arrive at the idea that it's the job of the government to provide jobs?.
  • maggiemay Tracie ... 2012/08/15 15:29:34
    maggiemay
    Just shake your head.
  • MadAsHEck Tracie ... 2012/08/15 16:58:15
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    And use taxpayer dollars to do so. And the so called big sales by GM? If you read the article, the sales are to dump their inventory onto the dealers, who are not moving them off the lot.
  • bman~AVA Herb 2012/08/15 07:18:35
    bman~AVA
    +1
    Agreed! And if they would have been left to do that then they would have learned by their mistakes and started making better decisions but now since Obie and company used our money to bail out GM they didn't learn a damn thing! They're still making the same mistakes and losing even more money in the process. Good comment Herb.
  • Space I... sbtbill 2012/08/15 02:48:34
    Space Invader
    +3
    you can sure tell you know nothing about the car business
  • sbtbill Space I... 2012/08/15 03:33:42
    sbtbill
    Maybe it is you who know nothing about the car business.
  • Space I... sbtbill 2012/08/15 03:42:02
    Space Invader
    +2
    I've been in the car business since 1985..put up or shut the Hell up!!
    You act like you know everything..you don't
  • Herb sbtbill 2012/08/15 02:29:17
    Herb
    +2
    GM still owes the tax payer 46m on top of that. Ford did not take dime of the money lol they said they would do it on its own. what ss its an unfunded liability they borrowed the money with an iou. there is no money to invest lol.
  • sbtbill Herb 2012/08/15 03:33:03
    sbtbill
    Social Security is funded with T-bills. Do you have a bank account that you feel is secure. Remember the only reason it is secure is because of FDIC - Federal Deposit Insurance which is backed by the US treasury. I.E, T-bills.

    Banks do not keep money in a bin. They take that money and loan it out or they buy T-bills with it. The banks think the US is safe. That even includes German, Chinese
    and other foreign banks.

    The reason that we had our AAA ratings dropped is because the House Republicans appeared to be unreliable. However, investors didn't agree so we had no increase in the cost of money.

    There is not enough gold in the world to fund the currency needs of modern nations. Nor is gold a stable store of value. Trying to use it would result in deflation that was so bad that most governments would be overthrown.

    We have already seen the French government thrown out by austerity. I expect to see the Greek government fall within a year. The British and Germans will be out within 3 yearrs. China and India's governments will survive because they are keynsian and socialist.
  • MadAsHEck sbtbill 2012/08/15 20:43:22
    MadAsHEck
    +2
    Wrong!! Social Security is backed by nothing but FICA income. It was taken from the so called Trust Fund and moved to the general fund years ago. It is The Disability part that is still covered by T bills, and it as well is now being stressed as more and more unemployed folks claim Disability. Plus China is duping their Long TErm T-Bills and replacing them with short term T-Bills. Which overall devalues the T-Bills. In addition to dumping a lot of their Investments on Wall Street.

    Social Security is just another part of the National deficit now. And for about a year there has beem more going out than comes in by FICA, which is the source of funding for SS.
  • Defend ... sbtbill 2012/08/15 11:41:30
    Defend Western Civlization
    +2
    gm is a joke
    nobody is buying the FUGLY mobile bomb the volt
  • MadAsHEck Defend ... 2012/08/15 17:01:23
    MadAsHEck
    +2
    They have shut down the Volt assembly line, "Temporarily" with no date to restart set. And one article I read sait they are negotiating with a Chinese Firm to buy it lock stock and barrel.
  • snipe 2012/08/14 20:22:18 (edited)
    snipe
    +6
    Bu..bu..but obama, just the other day, said he saved GM and she was roaring back and was the #1 auto maker in the World again, didn't he? But, what he didn't say is that 70% of the autos built by GM are built in other Countries and that most of their employees are based in those other Countries, as well. I guess he forgot to mention, also, that Shanghai GM is the Companys real Headquarters now.
  • maggiemay snipe 2012/08/14 20:38:08
    maggiemay
    +5
    They lap it up like the good little lap dogs they are. Prime example is sbtbill above.
  • snipe maggiemay 2012/08/14 21:00:15
    snipe
    +2
    They surely do.
  • MadAsHEck maggiemay 2012/08/14 22:34:15
    MadAsHEck
    +3
    He never can produce a counter argument based on fact.

    Actually I think he is notheing but a professional Troller.
  • Space I... snipe 2012/08/15 03:43:27
    Space Invader
    +3
    vespa fire volt fire
    Obama; money AND cars to burn!!
  • snipe Space I... 2012/08/15 20:44:37
    snipe
    +2
    I heard a couple days ago that in this Country a car, or truck, is considered sold when it is actually sold to a customer and leaves the Dealers lot. In China it's counted as sold when it is delivered to the Dealer. So, when GM and obama tout their worldwide sales figures it's not really an accurate number. I guess that's what's called countin' in Chinese.
  • bman~AVA snipe 2012/08/16 00:56:27
    bman~AVA
    +2
    Really??? I never knew that about China. Wow, that is really something for sure. Good comment Snipe. Many thanks for the enlightening info there.
  • Deere Guy 2012/08/14 20:07:27
  • MadAsHEck Deere Guy 2012/08/14 22:35:20
    MadAsHEck
    +3
    And they have stopped producing the Volt. But still pay the Union employees that were working at the plane.
  • Deere Guy MadAsHEck 2012/08/15 01:42:32
    Deere Guy
    +2
    I didn't realize they have stopped producing the volt....by stopping production, how are they gonna sell it to the public?
  • maggiemay Deere Guy 2012/08/15 05:51:03
    maggiemay
    +2
    I heard it will be built in China.

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