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"Global Warming" gets a re-branding

RJ~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/21 18:34:06
After years of swearing it's about "Earth in the balance", the Global Warming Profiteers have realized that their old sales pitch is dead. Kaput. FAILED!

So now they've adopted a new one to promote their elitist profit-making scheme. It relies on so-called "kitchen-table issues" such as gas prices and kids choking on pollutants.

Can you spell S - C - A - M???


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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74263.html

Shhhh! Don’t talk about global warming!

There’s been a change in climate for Washington’s greenhouse gang, and they’ve come to this conclusion: To win, they have to talk about other topics, like gas prices and kids choking on pollutants.

More than two years since Democrats’ cap-and-trade plan died in Congress, the strategic shift represents a reluctant acknowledgment from environmentalists that they’ve lost ground by tackling global warming head-on. Their best bet now lies in a bit of a bait and switch: Help elect global warming fighters by basing campaigns on kitchen-table issues.

“You don’t have to be James Carville to figure out that talking about people’s health and the health of their children … is going to make a difference to the average voter,” Daniel Weiss, director of climate strategy at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, said.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74263.html
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(NOTE: The George Soros-funded Center for American Progress, that is.)



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  • TheTruth1313 2012/03/21 18:40:38
    TheTruth1313
    +10
    And the stupidity continues........
    What makes me laugh is that a number of those that were studying this have already come forward and admitted that they skewed their info purposely to achieve false-positives.
    Global Warming is a hoax and yet another way to keep the voters away from paying attention to the truly important issues.
    Remember folks, anything associated with Al Gore is usually a very stupid idea.
    Man-bear-pig

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  • Kirino Turings... 2012/03/22 02:14:46
    Kirino
    Its a preservative and its not mercury. Its C9H9HgNaO2S. Mercury may be harmful to you as plain mercury but not in that chemical form. Much like how Chlorine is toxic until you combine it with sodium to make salt (NaCl).

    No study (a real scientific study mind you) has shown its use to be harmful.
  • Turings... Kirino 2012/03/22 02:22:41
  • Kirino Turings... 2012/03/22 02:26:29
    Kirino
    To bad you looked up mercury and not Thiomersal. Please learn to tell the difference.
  • Turings... Kirino 2012/03/22 02:29:05
    TuringsChild
    +1
    The point is, science is always making stupid mistakes like that, then they say, oh, it's all right now. NOW we know what we're talking about!"

    Yeah, right.
  • Kirino Turings... 2012/03/22 02:51:56
    Kirino
    What stupid mistake? Your links were about mercury, not Thiomersal.

    Science always changes in the face of new information. You laymen seem to perceive this as a flaw, it is in fact its greatest strength.
  • Turings... Kirino 2012/03/22 03:13:31
    TuringsChild
    Small comfort to the victims of 'old' science...
    http://scholar.google.com/sch...
  • Kirino Turings... 2012/03/22 03:19:12
    Kirino
    Science isn't here to help or harm anyone, its a tool. Blame people not science.

    "It is only a tool. But it is by far the best tool we have, self-correcting, ongoing, applicable to everything."
  • Flaming... Kirino 2012/03/22 03:36:06
    Flamingolady
    +1
    THIMEROSAL. For one so well versed in the use of the chemical used to deliver a vaccine quicker, please use the correct spelling. No offense, just an observation from one who has done probably 140 hours of research on the subject.
  • Kirino Flaming... 2012/03/22 05:42:21
    Kirino
    Perhaps you should do better research then. Thiomersal is only spelled thimerosal in the states.

    Thiomersal isn't used to "deliver a vaccine quicker" (you can't get much quicker than an injection), its used as an antiseptic and antifungal agent.

    Just as a side note 140 hours studying something is not at all a long period of time.
  • Flaming... Kirino 2012/03/22 13:19:55
    Flamingolady
    +1
    Thank you for the info, if it was intended as info and not just a snide put down. When my grand daughter was diagnosed at 13 with having Asperger's Syndrome, I delved into the subject and have spent a lot of time looking into the causes of autism.
  • RJ~PWCM... Flaming... 2012/03/22 14:23:00
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    Ooooh, sorry, Joan, looks like you just don't measure up to her VERY rigorous intellectual standards.

    (With nose in the air) "I hereby pronounce that 140 hours is not at all a long time"

    lol!
  • Kirino RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/22 16:04:40
    Kirino
    Considering I have years of research under my belt 140 hours is a very small amount of time. Most people will have more than 140 hours before they graduate from university.
  • RJ~PWCM... Kirino 2012/03/22 16:26:43
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    Yes, we all BOW DOWN to your INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORITY!!!

    cat bowing
  • Flaming... RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/23 03:42:08
    Flamingolady
    +1
    I know. The sad point of this is that children, 1 in 110 are now suffering with the disease. And on top of that their families suffer, too. The outrage is that when anyone questions the 35 vaccines that the babies now have to take, forced by the government, they are treated like this person feels they can.
  • Kirino Flaming... 2012/03/22 16:01:20
  • RJ~PWCM... Kirino 2012/03/22 16:27:09
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    This isn't personal, but you're a moron.
  • Kirino RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/22 16:44:59
    Kirino
    I don't think you understand the word personal.

    Typical conservative, when confronted by facts resort to insults.

    adfa
  • RJ~PWCM... Kirino 2012/03/22 16:47:18
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    Should have known the joke would be over the head of a self-centered self-absorbed narcissistic lib.
  • Kirino RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/22 16:54:34
    Kirino
    Thank you for further proving my point.

    asdfa
  • Flaming... Kirino 2012/03/23 03:40:00
    Flamingolady
    +1
    Right, and there has never been ONE independent or legitimate study done on the link between autism and vaccinations. Every single "study" has a member of a drug company on the panel. Follow the money. If there is no reason for there to be a link, why then does the US have a Vaccine Court and why have so many cases been awarded settlements? Why are 1 in 110 children suddenly being diagnosed? These are definitely rehtorical questions, since answers are usually the ones that the governments have issued.
  • Kirino Flaming... 2012/03/23 07:53:55
    Kirino
    Oh yes, its just one big conspiracy. /sarcasm
  • Flaming... Turings... 2012/03/22 03:41:54
    Flamingolady
    +2
    The only reason that the US forces vaccines, and there are now 35 that children are forced to have, is because of the drug company lobbyists. Period. Follow the money. Besides thimerosal in the vaccines, there are bovine fetal cells, human embryo cells, aspertame (yeah why the hell should a vaccine be sweet?), mice brain cells, and the list goes on and on. Do some research, google vaccine ingredients. And don't give me any crap unless you have a grand daughter with autism. Period.
  • Turings... Flaming... 2012/03/22 03:45:35
    TuringsChild
    +1
    Well said! Thank you!
  • Turings... Kirino 2012/03/25 01:31:59
    TuringsChild
    +1
    I must admit, you have a great deal of FAITH in science. So much that you refuse to look at all the falsified data that has been found. Who KNOWS how much falsified data hasn't been uncovered?
  • Kirino Turings... 2012/03/25 02:57:22
    Kirino
    I put no faith in science, it is a tool nothing more.

    "it is by far the best tool we have, self-correcting, ongoing, applicable to everything. It has two rules. First: there are no sacred truths; all assumptions must be critically examined; arguments from authority are worthless. Second: whatever is inconsistent with the facts must be discarded or revised. We must understand the Cosmos as it is and not confuse how it is with how we wish it to be."
  • RJ~PWCM... Kirino 2012/03/25 17:14:21
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    "First: there are no sacred truths; all assumptions must be critically examined; arguments from authority are worthless."

    This is exactly right.

    And the complete antithesis of "the science is settled" and "the debate is over".
  • Kirino RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/25 17:40:51
    Kirino
    We don't say the the science is over, we say all current evidence points to one conclusion, but if new evidence is brought to light we will reavaluate our conclusions.

    Science is never over.
  • RJ~PWCM... Kirino 2012/03/25 18:31:36
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    "If you look at the peer reviewed scientific literature, the debate is over." (Al Gore)
    http://www.hark.com/clips/tks...

    The science is settled, Gore told the lawmakers.
    http://www.npr.org/templates/...


    I know. You're gonna tell me that when Gore is right he's right, but when he's wrong he's wrong, and *you'll* be the judge of when he's right and wrong.
  • Kirino RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/25 18:41:55
    Kirino
    Al Gore isn't a scientist so I don't care what he says. You conservative must get over your Al Gore fetish.

    The debate can be over. If undeniable evidence for gravitons came out there would be no more debate between graviton and gravity waves, until such time further evidence came along and unsettles that concussion.
  • RJ~PWCM... Kirino 2012/03/25 18:48:48
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    Right. "Get over Al Gore".

    When I hear the "global warming scientists" denounce him in public, I'll stop giving him any credence.

    Up above you said "Science is never over."

    But now you're saying it "can be over."

    IOW, it's over when YOU decide it's over? Wrong.
  • Kirino RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/25 19:10:09
    Kirino
    "But now you're saying it "can be over."

    Let look at what I really said. "The debate can be over", I didn't not say the science can be over. The debate and the science are not the same. The science of evolution is on going, the debate whether it happened or not has long be over. The debate would being again in the light of new evidence to the contrary.
  • RJ~PWCM... Kirino 2012/03/25 21:41:28
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    There's lots of evidence to the contrary. Don't tell me Algore is the only one who believes the "debate is over". Climategate revealed that there is a concerted ongoing effort to prevent dissenting voices from being published in the journals.
  • Kirino RJ~PWCM... 2012/03/25 21:49:15
    Kirino
    No, there isn't there is a lot of misinformation that make peopel think that.

    Climategate revealed no such thing. I only further proved that most people are to stupid to understanding what was written there. Various investigations found no wrong doing on the scientists part. I'm sure you'll just brush that off as further evidence for the conspiracy.
  • mich52 2012/03/21 23:12:23
    mich52
    +2
    http://www.skepticalscience.c...


    So a consensus in science is different from a political one. There is no vote. Scientists just give up arguing because the sheer weight of consistent evidence is too compelling, the tide too strong to swim against any longer. Scientists change their minds on the basis of the evidence, and a consensus emerges over time. Not only do scientists stop arguing, they also start relying on each other's work. All science depends on that which precedes it, and when one scientist builds on the work of another, he acknowledges the work of others through citations. The work that forms the foundation of climate change science is cited with great frequency by many other scientists, demonstrating that the theory is widely accepted - and relied upon.
    In the scientific field of climate studies – which is informed by many different disciplines – the consensus is demonstrated by the number of scientists who have stopped arguing about what is causing climate change – and that’s nearly all of them. A survey of all peer-reviewed abstracts on the subject 'global climate change' published between 1993 and 2003 shows that not a single paper rejected the consensus position that global warming is man caused. 75% of the papers agreed with the consensus position while 25%...
    http://www.skepticalscience.c...


    So a consensus in science is different from a political one. There is no vote. Scientists just give up arguing because the sheer weight of consistent evidence is too compelling, the tide too strong to swim against any longer. Scientists change their minds on the basis of the evidence, and a consensus emerges over time. Not only do scientists stop arguing, they also start relying on each other's work. All science depends on that which precedes it, and when one scientist builds on the work of another, he acknowledges the work of others through citations. The work that forms the foundation of climate change science is cited with great frequency by many other scientists, demonstrating that the theory is widely accepted - and relied upon.
    In the scientific field of climate studies – which is informed by many different disciplines – the consensus is demonstrated by the number of scientists who have stopped arguing about what is causing climate change – and that’s nearly all of them. A survey of all peer-reviewed abstracts on the subject 'global climate change' published between 1993 and 2003 shows that not a single paper rejected the consensus position that global warming is man caused. 75% of the papers agreed with the consensus position while 25% made no comment either way, focusing on methods or paleoclimate analysis (Oreskes 2004).
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  • freespire 2012/03/21 22:56:48
    freespire
    +1
    Don't matter how they want to label it were all stilled dead thanks to these people who say greed is good. money what a crook it has no life to live and sure will not save a person from death.
  • Midnite12 2012/03/21 19:49:53
    Midnite12
    +2
    For the children? Of course! Everything has to have "For the children" in it for people to even notice, let alone care.
    Bitter lol cat
  • RJ~PWCM... Midnite12 2012/03/21 19:51:04
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Right! What humans exhale causes asthma in children , lol!
  • Pat 2012/03/21 19:33:25
    Pat
    +1
    The earth IS warming. The ice caps ARE melting. We ARE polluting the atmosphere with more and more carbon emissions thereby destroying the ozone layer and allowing dangerous radiation to reach the earth. Whatever you call it. It's happening and if we don't do something NOW, there will be no stopping it. I don't know how people don't see this. I see it every season when summer comes earlier, winter doesn't have as much snow, spring flowers pop up in March instead of April and then there's the loss of many species that depend on the polar ice caps and an oxygenated ocean.
  • Justin.... Pat 2012/03/21 20:10:04
    Justin.Long
    +2
    quick tell me the average snowfall of the northwest America in 1697?
  • Pat Justin.... 2012/03/22 00:51:39
    Pat
    No clue...but I'm sure you'll tell me.

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