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Global Collapse: MIT researchers predict the end of the world as we know it from Russia Today

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Global Collapse: MIT researchers predict the end of the world as we know it from Russia Today Television



Published: 05 April, 2012, 22:11




If the Mayans prove to be nothing more than a bunch of liars, don’t be too upset. Researchers at MIT predict that Earth will experience a whole other Armageddon-like scenario by 2030, when they expect a global economic collapse to occur.



Researchers at the world-renowned Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) say that, at this rate, the planet is likely to be plagued by a “global economic collapse” in fewer than two decades if humans continue to gobble up natural resources at the same rate they are today.



The report was led by MIT’s Jay W. Forrester’s Institute and used a computing model to examine the correlation between global developments and their affect on the Earth. Variables involving the amount of available resources, different level of agricultural productivity, birth control and environmental protection were taken into account to examine what the future holds for the human race and, according to the researchers, it isn’t very good.



“Only drastic measures for environmental protection proved to be suitable to change this systems behavior, and only under these circumstances, scenarios could be calculated in which both world population and wealth could remain at a constant level. However, so far the necessary political measures were not taken,” explains The Club of Rome, a global think-tank based out of Italy who commissioned MIT to conduct the research.



The study suggests that as earthlings continue to consume vast amounts of resources that cannot be replaced, a “precipitous population decline” will also be triggered unless adjustment are made to the way mankind manages its intake and stays at its current pace of plaguing the Earth’s ecosystems through mass industrialization. Perhaps most surprising, however, is that the researcher’s results, to some, is nothing new at all.



As it happens, the MIT report largely mirrors the results of a similar study conducted back in 1972 called “The Limits to Growth.” Back then Australian physicist Graham Turner conducted similar investigations while the population of the planet was only slightly more than half of what it is today. And while developments in the realms of industry, medicine and technology have made the world much easier to manage in those three decades, the decline that Turner predicted in the years after he published his paper have come close to the actual trends in the years since. In ’72, Turner also noticed that non-renewable resources would exponentially decrease in the coming years, and as industrial output and global pollution increases, food and, in turn, population would decrease.



“There is a very clear warning bell being rung here,” Turner wrote at the time. “We are not on a sustainable trajectory.” Despite foreshadowing the economic collapse 60 years ahead of time, however, the latest report out of MIT suggests that the Earth is still on its way towards some troubling times.



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  • wtw 2012/04/06 03:08:43
    wtw
    +3
    And Obama is a clear cause pushing the US toward fiscal insolvency!

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  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/06/15 09:59:51
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    +1
    the stars are not there...
    the world ended yesterday
    stars world ended yesterday

    http://webstation19.8k.com/pi...
  • Quazimoto 2012/04/08 22:56:50
    Quazimoto
    +1
    I'm surprised it will take that long. These people in Washington need someone with a 11th grade education to see that you can't keep spending more than you make. It would seem that going to a school of higher education teaches you noting about responsibility and the real world.
  • bob h. 2012/04/07 00:07:29
    bob h.
    +1
    Absolutely; that's where the money is. From the Ark, to the 7th Day Adventists, to the Mayans, right up to the FOX News daily disaster shows. There is no money in "feel good" news.
  • Old Poet 2012/04/06 16:52:49
    Old Poet
    +1
    Thiis only one aspect of the problems we face. We are in a cycle of decline that we may find impossible to escape. The Earth is going through Climate Change and we can modify our energy usages but we cannot modify the natural cycles of Nature's natural Climatic Changes.

    This is not a "tag, your it" problem. Also the cures have severe consequences in another area. We are in an Economic Climate Change.

    As we move into the "New World Order" where we are even more entwined with the less priductive nations around the world, we lose our natural defenses. Unlike most countries, we CAN produce all we need here in the United States or at least in conjunction with our neighbor to the north, Canada.

    Beware the glow and good intentions of Saviors. When things get tough, the tough no longer get going. Pretty words and promises of economic salvation are quite addictive and euphoric.

    Eighty years ago, the largest and most prosperous middle class on Earth, laden with enormous debt in the first part of the Global Great Depression, reached out to someone who offered Hope and Change.

    Been Goosestepping lately?
  • Dramha ... Old Poet 2012/04/07 13:31:06
    Dramha Bum-180
    No, it's just new "media" from somewhere in the middle of 'The Pond' -

  • Zippcodey 2012/04/06 16:21:30
    Zippcodey
    +1
    The Club of Rome is what's dividing the world up into 10 World Unions, this all comes out of Rome so they can get the One World Government they are after. The 10 Unions must come first before a One World Government with the Pope ruling it from Jerusalem.
  • COMALite J Zippcodey 2012/04/06 16:42:13 (edited)
    COMALite J
    +1
    Yep. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Right-wing Christians took over the GOP with Reagan, thanks to Nixon’s Southern Strategy partnering with Falwell’s im Moral non- Majority. The GOP has driven U.S. policy, and indirectly that of the Western world.

    Since the right-wing Christians also overwhelmingly tend to be Pre-Tribulation Rapture (a non-Biblical false doctrine even if Christianity at all is true ) believers (part and parcel of Dispensationalism, a nineteenth-century US-born cult [like Mormonism which they so loathe], which is often mis-called “Non-Denominational” or “Born-Again” Christianity), they believe that they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by quite literally destroying the world. After all, the Rapture is a-gonna come Any Day Now and whisk them all away, leaving the rest of us to suffer through the horrific effects of their mismanagement of the world. So eat, drink, and be merry, think not of tomorrow nor of those who come after you (including your own children and grandchildren), because there aren’t going to be any future generations (at least not the way the world is now) once the Tribulation hits, and by then the Rapture will have taken all the RWNJs away to safety! So why not grab all the “gusto” we can, while the grabbin’s good!?

    Except that that Rap...
    Yep. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Right-wing Christians took over the GOP with Reagan, thanks to Nixon’s Southern Strategy partnering with Falwell’s imMoral non-Majority. The GOP has driven U.S. policy, and indirectly that of the Western world.

    Since the right-wing Christians also overwhelmingly tend to be Pre-Tribulation Rapture (a non-Biblical false doctrine even if Christianity at all is true) believers (part and parcel of Dispensationalism, a nineteenth-century US-born cult [like Mormonism which they so loathe], which is often mis-called “Non-Denominational” or “Born-Again” Christianity), they believe that they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by quite literally destroying the world. After all, the Rapture is a-gonna come Any Day Now and whisk them all away, leaving the rest of us to suffer through the horrific effects of their mismanagement of the world. So eat, drink, and be merry, think not of tomorrow nor of those who come after you (including your own children and grandchildren), because there aren’t going to be any future generations (at least not the way the world is now) once the Tribulation hits, and by then the Rapture will have taken all the RWNJs away to safety! So why not grab all the “gusto” we can, while the grabbin’s good!?

    Except that that Rapture bit isn’t going to happen, even if the Bible and Christianity are true. Many of the effects of pollution and even global climate change (which the RWNJs publicly deny) could be interpreted as fulfilments of End Times Prophecy (e.g. Revelation Chapter 16, first several verses, especially verses 8–9 wrt global warming and/or ozone depletion, and the preceding verses wrt oceanic and inland water pollution. especially including “red tide”).
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  • Zippcodey COMALite J 2012/04/06 16:52:47
    Zippcodey
    Christianity is a lie of Rome, it did not come from Jerusalem. There is not going to be a so called rapture which that word was used only in Jerome's Latin Vulgate but Christians still use that word today.

    All true believers in Yahweh will live through the Tribulation Period, but when Yahweh returns when all the armies of every nation goes against Jerusalem to save Jerusalem which is nearly wiped out. He collects the believers in Him when He first comes before wiping the armies out, because they are saved from His wrath.

    The Momons were started by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young both Illuminiti members.

    Christian people have been deceived, all denominations and pagan religions are going back home to momma, Rome, under the authority once again of the Pontifex Maximus, POPE.

    Reagan signed the Concordant with the Papacy and ever since every President has been pushing for a One World Order and the downfall of the United States.
  • Dramha ... Zippcodey 2012/04/06 19:03:31 (edited)
    Dramha Bum-180
    ...
    [Revision due to incoherence] http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • Zippcodey Dramha ... 2012/04/06 22:07:55
    Zippcodey
    I don't expect people like you to understand, your minds are so far from what is really going on.
  • Old Poet Zippcodey 2012/04/06 17:00:11
    Old Poet
    Oh my God, can we not have a serious discussion of the problems we face?

    A great number mankind's greatest human disasters began with the best of intentions.

    Think for yourselves and quit reacting and believing just anything you here. The move toward a World Goverment is real but it's not near the consiracy you may think. As Public Opinion supports the idea, world leaders grab hold of the straw and chew.
  • Zippcodey Old Poet 2012/04/06 17:07:33
    Zippcodey
    Whether you believe it or not this is the most serious problem this world is facing and why it is in the mess it is in. If you don't want the truth of it, sorry to hear that. You go ahead and discuss your daily problems, there is a much bigger problem coming on the horizon.

    I've been studying this stuff since I was in my early 20's, so it's just not stuff I hear, this has been researched and studied out.
  • Old Poet Zippcodey 2012/04/07 16:42:37
    Old Poet
    Son, they aren't just conspiracies, they are real. It's just that if you blow a conspiracy too full of itself, you lose sight of the target. It's just too big to fix. It's like deliberately punching a hole on a damn and then cry because it's flooding. This is nothing new. It goes back over a century and is based in logic but logic withiut common sense by it's participants. The world cannot survive unless we, America, join them in their failure. We can't even close our own borders with Mexico, how are we going to resist the world? The Pope doesn't have that kind of puwer. The ones with real power sit in a room in Zurick and somke cigars. This group financed WWII and now sit back and name names. You can't hit a ball you can't see. Obama is their love child.
  • Zippcodey Old Poet 2012/04/07 17:02:10
    Zippcodey
    When you know the root, the tree doesn't matter, the tree is the offspring of the root.
    The Papacy is the root, all roads lead to Rome. So you can talk about the Illuminiti, the Masons, and all the other secret sociieties and organizations, they're main objective is putting the Pope in Jerusalem ruling the One World Government.

    The Pope has more power than you think, the Vatican put Obama in power and why he is doing their agenda for this country. I see the ball and I can hit it out of the ball park. You believe what you want, I will keep doing what I'm doing.
  • Old Poet Zippcodey 2012/04/08 17:23:48
    Old Poet
    Oh boy! Wake up son. I spent 25 years attending Catholic Mass. Even Catholics don't listen to the Pope like you believe. American Catholics are far more open than the Vatican. Besides, the Pope wouldn't put a Muslim in the White House.
  • Zippcodey Old Poet 2012/04/08 20:12:08
    Zippcodey
    +1
    Listen here, I am not your son, you have been listening to the priests too long calling you son and you thinking they are your father.

    Obama is a Muslim/Christian everything he is doing is for the Vatican and U.N.


    "They Catholics must penetrate wherever possible in the administration of civil affairs... all Catholics should do all in the power to cause the constitution of states, and legislation to be modeled on the principles of the true Church."

    Encyclical of Leo XIII -----------------------------...

    Rick Santorum is a Roman Catholic and belongs to the Knights of Malta. If you declare war on other Christians. Then it becomes a problem and that’s exactly what Santorum did in a 2008 speech about Protestantism at Ave Maria University. According to Santorum, 45 million Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Episcopalians, Congregationalists, and many Americans who belong to other sects of Protestantism are no longer real Christians because they do not follow strict Catholic teachings and extreme beliefs like he does.

    This article shows you where Santorum gets this from:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1...

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    Listen here, I am not your son, you have been listening to the priests too long calling you son and you thinking they are your father.

    Obama is a Muslim/Christian everything he is doing is for the Vatican and U.N.


    "They Catholics must penetrate wherever possible in the administration of civil affairs... all Catholics should do all in the power to cause the constitution of states, and legislation to be modeled on the principles of the true Church."

    Encyclical of Leo XIII -----------------------------...

    Rick Santorum is a Roman Catholic and belongs to the Knights of Malta. If you declare war on other Christians. Then it becomes a problem and that’s exactly what Santorum did in a 2008 speech about Protestantism at Ave Maria University. According to Santorum, 45 million Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Episcopalians, Congregationalists, and many Americans who belong to other sects of Protestantism are no longer real Christians because they do not follow strict Catholic teachings and extreme beliefs like he does.

    This article shows you where Santorum gets this from:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1...

    Masonry is comprised of a number of sub-groups throughout the world:the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergs, the Club of Rome, the Trilateralist Commission, the Knights of Malta, Skull & Bones, the Alta Vendita, and more.

    The world over has heard of Skull and Bones of Yale University. This elite secret society holds within its membership at least four U.S. Presidents. George W. Bush and Senator John Kerry are both members of Skull and Bones. This made the 2004 presidential election the first known election where two secret society members ran against each other. President George H.W. Bush also belongs to Skull and Bones.

    Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were Illuminati members and they started the Mormon denomination of Christianity. John Smith's headstone is a pyramid.

    This should show you why Harry Reid and Mitt Romney are deep into the destruction of the United States too, since they are both in politics and both are Mormons.
    -----------------------------...
    The Illuminati represent 13 elitist families, which have controlled international finance for centuries.From the shadows, they finance governments, and thus own them.They have sought to replace monarchies with republics, typically with a two-party system.They finance the campaigns of the leading Masonic candidates of both parties in elections ensuring that one of their members is elected.



    Clinton goes to Georgetown University where he finds a mentor in Professor Carroll Quigley. Quigley writes: "That the two political parties should represent opposed ideals and policies. . . is a foolish idea. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical . . .The policies that are vital and necessary for America are no longer subjects of significant disagreement, but are disputable only in detail, procedure, priority, or method."

    Now watch what Pelosi says and you will see that it is coming from Rome, it's what Clinton learned at the Jesuit Georgetown University.

    Pelosi says, “To my Republican friends: take back your party. So that it doesn’t matter so much who wins the election, because we have shared values about the education of our children, the growth of our economy, how we defend our country, our security and civil liberties, how we respect our seniors.” Pelosi also said: "Elections shouldn’t matter as much as they do’ and warned that it would be problematic for the country if both parties do not have shared values."Christian Catholic Biden,

    Holding honorary degrees from Jesuit St. Joseph’s University in Philadelphia and Jesuit University of Scranton

    Bill Clinton,

    Who was a Baptist went to Georgetown, the oldest Jesuit University in the U.S.

    Christian Catholic Pelosi

    Pelosi as Speaker of the House also played a part in Obama's running for President, when she knew he was illegal to do so. They had the right people in the right places to make it work.

    Pelosi is the spokeswoman for Rome and the Catholic Bishops. That's why she did not retire they still need her. They are teaching Socialism to our kids in school. They do not really care about our liberties, our economy or defense of this country, they act like they care till they get their power, then see what happens, another Hitler Germany.



    Pelosi: Catholic Church Secretly Wants Govt Contraception

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says the Catholic Church wants the federal government to enforce contraception because the church, by default, has failed to do so.

    "Ninety-eight percent of women in childbearing age that are Catholic use contraception,” Pelosi, a Catholic, said in a speech at Texas A&M; University in College Station.

    “So, in practice, the church has not enforced this, and now they want the federal government and private insurance to enforce it. It just isn't consistent to me," a CNSNews.comreport quotes the California Democrat as saying.

    Americans should pray for successful implementation of President Barack Obama's mandate that insurance companies provide healthcare plans with contraception, including sterilization and abortion-inducing drugs, Pelosi said.

    "Abortion should be rare and safe," she said, so contraception offers women a logical choice.

    "The same kind of science that can help women with the size and timing of their families is the same type of science that can help with infertility and other health issues that women face. So let's be prayerful of that and how we go forward on that," Pelosi said in response to a question from the audience.

    The Catholic Church opposes Obama's mandate, scheduled to go into effect Aug. 1. All 181 Catholic bishops in the United States have denounced the regulation and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops have called it "an unprecedented attack on religious freedom.” (Yeah right)

    Christian Catholic Al Gore,

    He's pushing the Earth Warming agenda.

    Christian Catholic John Boehner,

    Is the new Speaker of the House, needs to be watched closely on how he votes who he picks to hold certain positions and stuff.

    Muslim/Christian Obama while living in Indonesia under the name of Barry Soetero even though a Muslim went to a Catholic School. Obama worked for the Catholic Churches in Chicago for the Campaign for Human Development in Chicago. He said the experience “led me into public service.” He also has ties to Georgetown. What's crazy about all this is Muslims and Christians are supposed to be enemies, don't believe it. Obama went to a Catholic School in Indonesia to learn Islam.

    Christian Catholic Jon Favreau, OBAMA'S SPEECH WRITER.

    Obama is a good teleprompter reader, but see the difference when he reads a speech off of a paper, he can only say two or three words and must then look to his paper for what is next. If he talks without a teleprompter or paper, then he just stutters around like Duh, Um, Ee.

    Obama seems to depend on his speeches and why he uses a teleprompter. But it got me to thinking, who writes Obama's speeches? The answer to that is Jon Favreau (Catholic), the number one writer for Obama. He first started out with John Kerry (Catholic), when he ran for President. Obama met Favreau through John Kerry. John Kerry is in the same brotherhood as father and son George Bush, they all belong to the Skull and Bones, secret society.Jon Favreau went to Holy Cross College, A top liberal arts college the College of the Holy Cross is exclusively undergraduate, embraces a Catholic, Jesuit identity and was established in 1843. So where does Favreau get most of his information to write in the speeches? I believe it is from the Vatican that pushes their agenda and Obama is their puppet. If you remember when Obama was running for President they kept saying how smart the guy was, this was just for hype's sake. The real brains behind Obama is no other than the Vatican and Catholic Church, who helps to carry out certain agendas.

    Jewish Elena Kagan, She worked for Bill Clinton too.

    Nomination, Played Role In Hiding Obama's Birth Certificate. These people come out of one big circle. Kagan was the Solicitor General in the Department of Justice for the suits against Obama filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship. He owed her big time. All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it? The Kagan's payoff is that she was voted in for the Supreme Court, there are now 6 Catholics and 3 Jews.

    Muslim/Christian Obama,

    Barack Obama or whatever his real name, is not only illegal to be holding the office of President but he is a puppet being told what to do and what to say and how to act. He is like a kid, trying to do a man's job, he is not and never was smart enough and never had any experience to run anything except maybe for his jaws. This country has been deceived

    Muslim/Christian Obama while living in Indonesia under the name of Barry Soetero even though a Muslim went to a Catholic School. Obama worked for the Catholic Churches in Chicago for the Campaign for Human Development in Chicago. He said the experience “led me into public service.” He also has ties to Georgetown. What's crazy about all this is Muslims and Christians are supposed to be enemies, don't believe it. Obama went to a Catholic School in Indonesia to learn Islam.

    Obama says he became a Christian in his late 20s. He now describes himself as Christian. Until recently, he spent two decades as a member of a Chicago United Church of Christ congregation that embraces Black Liberation theology. Somewhat like the Roman Catholic liberation theology of Latin America, the Chicago UCC church preaches elements of neo-Marxist class warfare. It combines these radical socialist elements with black racialism.

    Obama says he became a Christian in his late 20s. He now describes himself as Christian. Until recently, he spent two decades as a member of a Chicago United Church of Christ congregation that embraces Black Liberation theology. Somewhat like the Roman Catholic liberation theology of Latin America, the Chicago UCC church preaches elements of neo-Marxist class warfare. It combines these radical socialist elements with black racialism.

    MISS U.S.A., A MUSLIM/CHRISTIAN, JUST LIKE OBAMA.

    The following is to prove that Obama is a Muslim/Chistian who went to a Catholic School when he was in Indonesia. Miss USA, Rima Fakih says she is a Muslim/Christian and she too went to a Catholic School.

    Miss USA, 2010, Rima Fakih of Dearborn, Mich., a Lebanese immigrant, told pageant organizers her family celebrates both Muslim and Christian faiths. She moved to the United States as a baby and was raised in New York, where she attended a Catholic school. Her family moved to Michigan in 2000.

    WHAT THE JESUITS AND VATICAN ARE UP TO.

    French General Marquis de Lafayette (1757-1834) stated: "It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country - the United States of America - are DESTROYED, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic JESUIT PRIESTS, for they are the most crafty, dangerous ENEMIES to CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. They have instigated most of the wars in Europe.
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  • Old Poet Zippcodey 2012/04/10 03:41:28
    Old Poet
    Whatever, I give up. By the way, I'm not Catholic, was married to one for 25 years.
  • Zippcodey Old Poet 2012/04/10 06:06:25
    Zippcodey
    You said you spent 25 years going to Catholic Mass, but yet your not one? Did it all for the wife hey. lol

    You need to give up because I can teach you a few things about the place you spent 25 years attending.
  • Old Poet Zippcodey 2012/04/11 16:20:32
    Old Poet
    Through your eyes......
  • Zippcodey Old Poet 2012/04/11 18:43:18
    Zippcodey
    Actually through scripture alone.
  • mike 2012/04/06 15:25:13
    mike
    +1
    I've been talking about human over population since the seventies. But what kills me is that enviromental groups, especially the sierra club avoid the subject. Its very simple to understand. Humans are the biggest users and polluters, and the more of us there are, the less resources and more pollution, will be a growing norm.
  • Sean mike 2012/04/06 15:36:17
    Sean
    Can you think of something the MIT study fails to look at pertaining to the issue of population level, and ecological sustainability, and quality of living?
  • AliasOther 2012/04/06 14:13:35
    AliasOther
    +1
    BY THE WAY

    Unemployment is at the exact same place it was when Obama took office as of today. 8.2% Hate it GOP.
  • AliasOther 2012/04/06 14:06:03
  • JanHopkins 2012/04/06 08:22:29
    JanHopkins
    +1
    I've been in the game for 60 years now. I've noticed that the economy works a lot like ocean tides. It seems that the rythem is set for a recession every ten years or so and a depression every 30 years or so.
  • Q 2012/04/06 04:29:02
    Q
    +2
    Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but we humans do not. We move to an area and we multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way we can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.
    matrix agent smith gif
  • Boris D. 2012/04/06 03:42:29 (edited)
    Boris D.
    +1
    I agree that we are headed for economic catstrophe, but not for the reasons they specify - resource consumption.



    They came up with the conclusion they wanted to sell their proposed solution ..."drastic measures for environmental protection" which will severely limit our productivity leading us faster to their outcome.



    Do you know what other democrat policies lead to economic collapse? (Hint..all of them)



    According to the CBO, public debt will be larger than the entire US economy by 2023. The CBO model show the standard of living beginning to decline by 2015 and the economic model completely breaks down by 2027.
  • Morrison Boris D. 2012/04/06 05:38:31
  • Annie~P... Morrison 2012/04/06 06:04:38
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    The old Bush card. So Morrison, whats Obama's excuse?
  • COMALite J Annie~P... 2012/04/06 16:51:53 (edited)
    COMALite J
    +1
    What time of the day (solar time, not clock time) do we get the most solar energy? Straight-up noon, right?

    Now, what time of the day does it tend to be the warmest (barring a cold front passing through or some such)? Noon? No! Mid-afternoon (about 3PM solar time)!

    What day of the year do we get the most solar energy? The Summer Solstice, right?

    Now, when does summer tend to be the hottest? On the Solstice? No! About six weeks (1½ months) later? Yes! This is why the Solstice is considered the beginning of summer, not the middle of it as it would be if the climate responded instantly to solar energy input.

    And what do we learn from this, boys and girls? That effect follows cause. Always. Every. Single. Time. Without exception.

    If you’re driving a van that is going 90mph towards a cliff, and you slam on the brakes just before you reach the cliff edge, will you stop instantly and not go over the cliff?

    So why do we think that Obama or anyone else could slam the brakes on the effects of policies that had been ongoing for decades before, and instantly turn a rising deficit into a falling one, or high unemployment into low, etc.? There is momentum to the economy, just as there is to the atmospheric temperature both on a short-term (per day) and long-term (per season) basis, and just as there is to the van.
  • Jack 2012/04/06 03:28:58
    Jack
    +1
    Like I said previously, so, what's new?
  • mustangluver 2012/04/06 03:09:52
  • DoxieDad 2012/04/06 03:09:04
  • wtw 2012/04/06 03:08:43
    wtw
    +3
    And Obama is a clear cause pushing the US toward fiscal insolvency!
  • AliasOther wtw 2012/04/06 14:08:49
    AliasOther
    i think the lack of taxes is. You guys act as if Obama has more power than any other leader to ever live. Thats amazing.

    Did Obama pee in your cornflakes too?
  • wtw AliasOther 2012/04/08 19:25:21
    wtw
    Obama wants to raise taxes--true! Obama wants to have higher fule prices--true! Obama keeps spending and asking us to spend more than we take in--true! People beleive Obama is correct--yep! proof I am right!
  • AliasOther wtw 2012/04/09 14:06:43
    AliasOther
    +1
    Obama wants to raise taxes--true! >> TRUE

    TRUE for the top 5%. The reason is that someone with 1mil can much easier buy food and pay their bills than someone with 100 dollars. If i got 1mil i don't need to barrow 5k cause i have it. So when the government barrows 1Trillion to give me 5k extra i think its silly borrowing.
    Its like maxing your credit card for breast implants and then skipping all of your preventive doctors visits cause you are broke and in debt.

    Obama wants to have higher fule prices--true! >>> FALSE

    The statement that F-Word News keeps spinning comes from a conversation where the President (then senator) was discussing what triggers would get the USA on a path to renewable energy. He was saying in response to a question, that when gas prices become high people are more apt to look for alternative means of energy. When the gas price is low people do not take urgency towards these renewable energies.



    Obama keeps spending and asking us to spend more than we take in--true! >> FALSE

    Thats another talking point from The F-Word and RICE PREBUTTS. As the GOP talks about debt they have introduced 3 budget type frameworks that all raise the debt by 4trillion or more. The main reason for this raise of debt over 10years is to give tax breaks to people who don't need to barrow 5k. S...



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    Obama wants to raise taxes--true! >> TRUE

    TRUE for the top 5%. The reason is that someone with 1mil can much easier buy food and pay their bills than someone with 100 dollars. If i got 1mil i don't need to barrow 5k cause i have it. So when the government barrows 1Trillion to give me 5k extra i think its silly borrowing.
    Its like maxing your credit card for breast implants and then skipping all of your preventive doctors visits cause you are broke and in debt.

    Obama wants to have higher fule prices--true! >>> FALSE

    The statement that F-Word News keeps spinning comes from a conversation where the President (then senator) was discussing what triggers would get the USA on a path to renewable energy. He was saying in response to a question, that when gas prices become high people are more apt to look for alternative means of energy. When the gas price is low people do not take urgency towards these renewable energies.



    Obama keeps spending and asking us to spend more than we take in--true! >> FALSE

    Thats another talking point from The F-Word and RICE PREBUTTS. As the GOP talks about debt they have introduced 3 budget type frameworks that all raise the debt by 4trillion or more. The main reason for this raise of debt over 10years is to give tax breaks to people who don't need to barrow 5k. So they give a guy like MITT 340k in tax breaks on his 47million per year but ask an old lady with a 18k per year to pay more for heath care. By the way that lady could use 5k extra per year.
    What the Obama plan does is removes the Bush tax breaks for the top tier which is 712 billion and then applies 300 billion to education, research and infrastructure over ten years. The other 412billion is applied to debt over that same 10years. The Money not being spent in Iraq he has proposed several times to use half of it for debt and the other half for investment in building our nation.


    People beleive Obama is correct--yep! proof I am right! >>

    You will only believe what you want to believe. If you want to believe that everything that Obama does is wrong then you will be just like the GOP. They are so intent on trying to make Obama look bad or be wrong that they will make a statement and then when Obama agrees they will back step that statement. Like the individual mandate which is a PURELY GOP concept.


    Lowering taxes on the top 10% has never under any administration cause job growth or debt reduction. Removing the social safety net is what we had before the new deal.
    Raising taxes by its self has never created jobs but it has removed debt in 2 previous occasions. What you do with the money generated from a SLIGHTLY higher tax rate has ALWAYS created jobs.
    Infrastructure - job creator
    Education - Job creator
    Research - Job creator
    These are the places to invest if you want a more affluent society.


    The GOP platform has some nice things in it but when you say its my way or the highway then all you are doing is crushing our economy. NO PRESIDENT IS ALL WRONG but thats what the GOP is pushing about Obama.

    dont you think that is strange?
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  • Dagon 2012/04/06 03:07:56
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/04/06 03:05:51
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    I don't believe one word of this I don't care if they are MIT researchers or not. Just more fear mongers I think.
  • Boris D. ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/04/06 03:43:43
    Boris D.
    +2
    According to the CBO, public debt will be larger than the entire US economy by 2023. The CBO model show the standard of living beginning to decline by 2015 and the economic model completely breaks down by 2027.

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