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Germany's return to racism

Chaya2010 2012/07/25 02:43:05

In a poll published this past May, almost two out of three Germans claimed that, in their view, Israelis are -- on a whole -- "aggressive." It's an interesting claim coming from Germany, and not just because it was German aggression which nearly wiped out the Jewish people in Europe a mere three generations ago.

As is often the case when understanding the world's relationship to the Jewish people, a clear understanding of the significance of the poll requires that it be translated into more general and, frankly, less Jewish terms. Think for a moment if the two out of three Germans were found to consider Chinese people "aggressive." That is, in our thought experiment a supermajority of Germans would find a Chinese man or woman, whether living in Beijing or in Boston, to be aggressive.

Applied to any other example, the recent German poll is a clear-cut, glaring and definitive case of racism. It's racism unblurred. Why? Because it's logically impossible that any significant sample size of the German population has met a significant sample of Israelis. Their opinion about the racial characteristics of Israelis -- Jews, in other words -- is based on not experience, but on some kind of genetic prejudice.

As if to underline the point, the German people's expression of racial distaste for citizens of the Jewish state was followed up, almost immediately, by acourt-directed ban on the one practice that for thousands of years has made a Jew a Jew -- that of circumcision.

True, the German parliament and its major parties have criticized the ban, and are trying to have it overturned. Nonetheless, the court in Cologne -- a bastion of German liberalism and "tolerance" -- criminalized Judaism's core religio-national ritual as a violation of Germany's constitution.

If it were only Germany's legal institutions making absurd rulings motivated by a liberalism run amok, then maybe we could rest easier. But it's not the case, as the May poll revealed. But beyond the poll (which should by now be notorious but somehow isn't), in 2009 we learned from a German study that more young German men are involved in neo-Nazi parties than mainstream political parties. That's right: German youth are more apt to actively take up the banner of Hitler than Angela Merkel.

Individually, any of these examples could be dismissed as fluke, anomaly, or fringe. But together a very scary, very real, and very historically familiar pattern seems to be emerging. Only two key ingredients seem to be absent: the first is a German "will to power," a manifestation of a German ability and desire to dominate politically and ethically. But as we see Germany's economic -- i.e. political -- ascendancy over a crisis-wracked Europe, it's seems that those eggs may already be in the batter.

That leaves the most conspicuous element, which is (thankfully) still missing -- the German demagogue who can crystallize all of the above, all the sentiment driving racist polls, ethnically biased legal rulings, and a pending economic meltdown into a virulent ideology. Let's hope that no such leader emerges any time soon.

But more importantly, we have to go beyond hope and demand that Germany wakes up and begins to see that it's teetering on the brink of something dark. Far from the reaction of some of the elite in Israel, who took the spring poll as actual proof of Israel's "aggression," we need to understand that Germany's problem with Israel is a German problem.

This time, knowing what we know, having pledged to "never forget," it's our duty to stand up and raise our voices to prevent a disturbing trend from deepening. This requires us to have the confidence to issue an accusation, when one is called for. We owe it to ourselves.

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  • ★Calliope★ 2012/07/25 02:55:20
    ★Calliope★
    +4
    They aren't alone. France is becoming more and more anti-Israel.
    It's happening across Europe. Why? I don't know. But it does not bode well for Israel. In light of the terror attack that killed so many Israelli students, it's becoming a real problem.

    But - for what it is worth -
    i stand with israel

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  • David (oYo) 2012/08/10 21:12:36
    David (oYo)
    +2
    I like Israel myself. It's a bastion of civilisation in the uncivilised muslim world. The Germans are a surprise to me.
  • CatyaSho 2012/08/05 11:32:19
    CatyaSho
    Wow, can I just say something here: How comes every time somebody says something negative about Israel, they're called racist or anti-semitic?

    Just because I don't agree with Israels politics, how exactly does that make me a racist?! I don't have anything against Israeli people or Jews, but I do have an opinion about the whole Gaza situation which might not exactly be in Israels favour.

    And I consider you talking about the "German "will to power," a manifestation of a German ability and desire to dominate politically and ethically" racist.
    So much for YOUR political correctness.
  • Chaya2010 CatyaSho 2012/08/10 17:27:46
    Chaya2010
    +1
    Invert that honey and a little morality and you've got your own answer!
  • CatyaSho Chaya2010 2012/08/11 08:47:39
    CatyaSho
    Oh, so if I say something about Israel's politics, that makes me racist, but you can say anything you want about German people without having to be called racist?

    I'm not denying there are still racist people out there. In Germany, too, but also in lots of other countries. But those are people who hate others based on their ethnicity or their religion. Criticism doesn't equal plain hatred.

    I haven't done anything to deserve to be called a racist. I've demonstrated and spoken against the Nazi regime and all that belongs to it since I was 14. I've seen streetworkers and teachers talk to little children about WW2 so they would grow up knowing what happend back then must never happen again, as have I.
    To prevent racism, people have to be educated about everything it entitles and I can see that it does.

    But in the article, I believe the Germans where referring to Israel's politics right now. People are only making a big deal out of it because the ones asked were German and we don't have a "right" so say anything negative about Israel because our grandparents have committed genocide.
    Yes, I call it GENOCIDE and it was very wrong! I can assure you that everyone in their right minds will acknowledge that and help to prevent it from ever happening again. We don't want history to repeat its...







    Oh, so if I say something about Israel's politics, that makes me racist, but you can say anything you want about German people without having to be called racist?

    I'm not denying there are still racist people out there. In Germany, too, but also in lots of other countries. But those are people who hate others based on their ethnicity or their religion. Criticism doesn't equal plain hatred.

    I haven't done anything to deserve to be called a racist. I've demonstrated and spoken against the Nazi regime and all that belongs to it since I was 14. I've seen streetworkers and teachers talk to little children about WW2 so they would grow up knowing what happend back then must never happen again, as have I.
    To prevent racism, people have to be educated about everything it entitles and I can see that it does.

    But in the article, I believe the Germans where referring to Israel's politics right now. People are only making a big deal out of it because the ones asked were German and we don't have a "right" so say anything negative about Israel because our grandparents have committed genocide.
    Yes, I call it GENOCIDE and it was very wrong! I can assure you that everyone in their right minds will acknowledge that and help to prevent it from ever happening again. We don't want history to repeat itself.
    But what happend is in the past. What we can only do is to educate the following generations about it.

    Any criticism on Israel's politics shouldn't be linked to the Nazi-era, even if it comes from German people. We have the right to criticise something if we think it's aggressive, too. That doesn't mean we don't value the people themselves or their religion, or that we want to kill them!

    I'm best friends with people from Russia, the UK, Romania, Venezuela and the US, for crying out loud. One of my friends LIVES in Israel atm (and she's Israeli).

    I simply won't have you come along throwing an article at me where they talk about a "German will to power" ( which I still find really offensive), then call me immoral because I think we should separate the past Nazi-rascism from criticism on Israeal's politics.
    You don't even know me and you probably don't even know any Germans and I won't let you judge me on behalf of some prejudice you seem to have against German people.
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  • Chaya2010 CatyaSho 2012/08/18 13:08:31
    Chaya2010
    +1
    False dichotomy. Israel is multi-racial, multi-ethnic and......even multicultural (to an extent) country. Get your head around it is a JEWISH STATE!
  • CatyaSho Chaya2010 2012/08/24 11:24:52
    CatyaSho
    their politics has NOTHING whatsoever to do with them being JEWISH, gosh. I can oppose their politics without bashing their religion! It's called secularism.
    Get YOUR head around that.
  • flaca BN-0 2012/07/25 07:02:23 (edited)
    flaca BN-0
    +2
    The people of Germany today had nothing to do with the Nazi era. And those who don't see that are silly. It's not just Germany who sees Israel's policies as aggressive: many others do too. Israel has wantonly flouted the UN dictats by encroaching and building on land that was not part of the original territory. I don't deny that some elements on the other side are equally aggressive, but Israel is definitely arrogant. Most of Europe feels that way, but then their journalism is less one-sided than the US's which thinks the sun shines out of Israel's arse.
  • Brandon 2012/07/25 04:55:24
  • Don Leuty 2012/07/25 04:01:43
    Don Leuty
    +1
    Germans are in the minority in their own country. Those that have remained over the last couple of decades are not reproducing enough to sustain the gene pool.
  • Chaya2010 Don Leuty 2012/07/25 15:49:56
    Chaya2010
    +2
    I'm not sure about them being the minority although its true that indigenous Europeans aren't breeding at sustainable rate, some nations are in decline and the Muslim population in particular in some countries are out breeding their host nations.
  • Don Leuty Chaya2010 2012/07/25 15:55:58 (edited)
    Don Leuty
    +1
    Thew were approaching the half-way mark following reunification. Eastern Europeans in the east and Turks in the west. That was a generation ago.
  • JCD aka... Don Leuty 2012/07/26 17:04:58
    JCD aka "biz"
    "Germans are in the minority in their own country"???


    LOL
  • Don Leuty JCD aka... 2012/07/26 18:04:23
    Don Leuty
    +1
    Just like France in another 50 years.
  • Chaya2010 Don Leuty 2012/07/26 22:03:10
    Chaya2010
    France is in trouble already and things will get worse.
  • Don Leuty Chaya2010 2012/07/26 23:40:54
    Don Leuty
    +1
    I have heard rumors to that effect, but only recently did I see numerical evidence pointing to Frenchmen becoming a minority in their own country in the not so distant future. East Germans were already in the minority at reunification. Expatriation and a low birth rate among native Germans are putting them in the minority.

    It seems that a number of developed countries are facing the same thing. Immigrants are out-breeding the natives. Many cultural shifts are in the making all over the world.
  • JCD aka... Chaya2010 2012/07/27 11:27:09
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Is France in trouble already? I must be short-sighted, I hadn't noticed.
  • Chaya2010 JCD aka... 2012/07/27 13:34:52
    Chaya2010
    Its not in a good way. They have either the largest or second largest population of Muslims in Europe.

    I don't know where to start:
    Elan Halimi
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    Jewish girls have to hide their "Jewishness" or risk assault
    The Toulouse Massacre of Jews
    http://www.worldjewishcongres...
    http://www.chabad.org/library...
    Suburbs no-go areas which are populated mostly by Black-Africans and Muslim-Arabs
    http://francestanford.stanfor...
    http://www.israelnationalnews...
    Prayer on streets
    Refusal of veiled women to comply with French law.
    http://www.siasat.com/english...
    Riots
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    http://www.france24.com/en/20...
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/wor...
    http://www.slate.com/articles...

    Here's the statistics:
    http://www.insee.fr/en/defaul...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...


    Its not in a good way. They have either the largest or second largest population of Muslims in Europe.

    I don't know where to start:
    Elan Halimi
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    Jewish girls have to hide their "Jewishness" or risk assault
    The Toulouse Massacre of Jews
    http://www.worldjewishcongres...
    http://www.chabad.org/library...
    Suburbs no-go areas which are populated mostly by Black-Africans and Muslim-Arabs
    http://francestanford.stanfor...
    http://www.israelnationalnews...
    Prayer on streets
    Refusal of veiled women to comply with French law.
    http://www.siasat.com/english...
    Riots
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    http://www.france24.com/en/20...
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/wor...
    http://www.slate.com/articles...

    Here's the statistics:
    http://www.insee.fr/en/defaul...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...


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  • CatyaSho Don Leuty 2012/08/11 08:53:38
    CatyaSho
    There are about 20% foreigners in Germany, so I wouldn't say Germans are the minority.
  • ★Calliope★ 2012/07/25 02:55:20
    ★Calliope★
    +4
    They aren't alone. France is becoming more and more anti-Israel.
    It's happening across Europe. Why? I don't know. But it does not bode well for Israel. In light of the terror attack that killed so many Israelli students, it's becoming a real problem.

    But - for what it is worth -
    i stand with israel
  • Chaya2010 ★Calliope★ 2012/07/25 02:57:27
    Chaya2010
    +1
    Thanks you're a star:))
    star
  • ★Calliope★ Chaya2010 2012/07/25 03:06:54
    ★Calliope★
    +1
    I don't understand how short collective memory can be.

    And it's my pleasure, my dear. Truly.

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