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Germany bans ultraconservative Islamic organization amid raids across the country. Do you think our government should forget about being PC and start doing the same here?

Selketskiss 2012/06/17 18:42:59
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Is Germany waking up to the threat of these Islamic organizations. I believe our government needs to wake up also and raid the 35 terrorist training camps here on US soil.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/14/germany-bans-salafist...

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  • Andrew 2012/07/02 22:15:06
    Yes
    Andrew
  • Selkets... Andrew 2012/07/03 00:30:15
    Selketskiss
    +1
    Thanks for your reply...
  • David (oYo) 2012/07/01 09:16:16
    Yes
    David (oYo)
    +2
    Ban the bastards. Well done Germans.
  • Selkets... David (... 2012/07/01 14:12:53
    Selketskiss
    +1
    Thanks for your reply David...
  • David (... Selkets... 2012/07/01 14:16:00
    David (oYo)
    +2
    My pleasure darling. I'd hate to see these nutters taking over the states or the UK for that matter.
  • Selkets... David (... 2012/07/01 15:06:18 (edited)
    Selketskiss
    +1
    UK has a major problem on their hands and have already given in to them by allowing total no go zones or dead zones where only muslims can go..not even police will go there...check mate game over..Dearborn MI is next...this video is poor quality but the police are always running away...they will control the UK it will be theirs. There are many videos like this for the UK and other countries...
  • David (... Selkets... 2012/07/01 15:26:05
    David (oYo)
    +2
    I'm not absolutely sure but I think you'll find these are the London riots of last August. These were not instigated or indeed led by muslims. Nor do I think that muslims played a significant part. They mainly involved black and white youths who
    were out to loot and steal as many items as they could. Indeed for fun they torched a number of shops and stores. Two stores in different parts of London were burnt to the ground. The police are running away because they're outnumbered by the rioters. Eventually reinforcements were sent and the rioters fled.

    I am not aware of no go zones, I feel sure this would be illegal.

    However I do see the muslims as a threat but the government is beginning to roll them back. They are going to make arranged marriages illegal. This hits at the heart of muslim traditions.
  • Selkets... David (... 2012/07/01 17:05:59 (edited)
    Selketskiss
    +1
    I was not aware that blacks and whites wanted Palestine free as that is what was being chanted or that blacks and whites would be screaming Allah Akbar dressed in muslim clothes. Muslims ran non muslims right out of Birminghan through intimidation and violence it is considered a a no go area for non muslims also.


    This one is stunning


    This is going on in mosques right here in the US under our noses...America is sleeping while the terrorist grow ....
  • David (... Selkets... 2012/07/01 17:19:29
    David (oYo)
    +2
    Yes I agree that much of this is true. However as I said the tide is turning. These muslim terrorists are being jailed or deported. The last Labour government was far too pc and reluctant to criticise extremists. There is still a lot to do however.
  • art1ej 2012/07/01 04:30:28
    Undecided
    art1ej
    +2
    If any organization is doing something illegal i think they should step in...
  • Selkets... art1ej 2012/07/01 14:14:46
    Selketskiss
    +1
    Thanks Art for your thoughts on this..I wish our own gov would step up and do the right thing.
  • art1ej Selkets... 2012/07/01 23:31:09
    art1ej
    +2
    Same.... :-)
  • Dave**Gay for Girls** 2012/07/01 00:33:03
    Yes
    Dave**Gay for Girls**
    +3
    Absolutely! The muslims deserve nothing more than any othe religion what in hell makes them special or unique! The Germans have it right!
    Islamic terrorists
  • Selkets... Dave**G... 2012/07/01 01:49:16
    Selketskiss
    +2
    Great pic thanks for your reply..
  • Centuri... Dave**G... 2012/07/01 07:29:27
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    SMWBSM
  • Diamond Girl 2012/06/30 23:04:49
    Yes
    Diamond Girl
    +5
    Yes, keeping your citizens safe comes first before bowing down to the PC BS....
  • Selkets... Diamond... 2012/07/01 01:51:17
    Selketskiss
    +2
    Yes being PC will no longer cut it when many American lives will be at risk...thanks for your reply..
  • Centurion~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/30 21:58:02
    Yes
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    Germany should also ease up on its restrictions about gun ownership.

    I really enjoyed being in Germany when I was there about 20+ years ago. I question if I would recognize it now.
  • Diamond... Centuri... 2012/06/30 23:03:51
    Diamond Girl
    +4
    I am going there in 3 days for a month to visit family, and it has changed dramatically in 20 years, some good changes and some not so good changes...
  • Selkets... Diamond... 2012/07/01 01:53:46
    Selketskiss
    +3
    I hope you have a wonderful time visiting with family Diamond Girl..
  • Centuri... Diamond... 2012/07/01 07:26:49
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    I hope that you have a wonderful time there Diamond Girl. Hopefully your family already knows this;

    Take TWO Rhein River Cruises, one by day and the other being the Rhein in Flammen (Rhein Aflame) at night. Usually, Rhein in Flammen is done in the Summer and Autumn.





    Here is a link for booking if you wish;

    http://www.firework.rhine-riv...


    It will take a bit of driving but make a trip deep South to Neuschwanstein. When I went there, I even had to cross into Austria for a few kilometers.




    If possible, schedule for the Medieval Dinner at Cochem Castle. Here is a link but family might be able to get you a better rate at MWR Office.

    http://rtttravel.com/tours/RT...




    It will be sobering but worthwhile to go to Dachau.

    If you have time, there are lots of "abandoned" castles that your family can tour for little or no cost.

    I hope that you have a wonderful time there DiamondGirl. It is possible that your family has been there for a while and already knows the "good" places and there are a lot of them. I make myself at your service if I can help you at all.

    Golly I want to go back so badly that I can feel that German "cool."

    I hope that I've not overloaded you here but if it helps you and your family, then I am happy.
    I hope that you have a wonderful time there Diamond Girl. Hopefully your family already knows this;

    Take TWO Rhein River Cruises, one by day and the other being the Rhein in Flammen (Rhein Aflame) at night. Usually, Rhein in Flammen is done in the Summer and Autumn.





    Here is a link for booking if you wish;

    http://www.firework.rhine-riv...


    It will take a bit of driving but make a trip deep South to Neuschwanstein. When I went there, I even had to cross into Austria for a few kilometers.


    Neuschwanstein

    If possible, schedule for the Medieval Dinner at Cochem Castle. Here is a link but family might be able to get you a better rate at MWR Office.

    http://rtttravel.com/tours/RT...


    Cochem Castle

    It will be sobering but worthwhile to go to Dachau.

    If you have time, there are lots of "abandoned" castles that your family can tour for little or no cost.

    I hope that you have a wonderful time there DiamondGirl. It is possible that your family has been there for a while and already knows the "good" places and there are a lot of them. I make myself at your service if I can help you at all.

    Golly I want to go back so badly that I can feel that German "cool."

    I hope that I've not overloaded you here but if it helps you and your family, then I am happy.
    (more)
  • Selkets... Centuri... 2012/07/01 02:10:38
    Selketskiss
    +2
    Thanks for your reply..
  • Centuri... Selkets... 2012/07/01 07:28:25
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Glad to participate. You are such a fine young lady.
  • Selkets... Centuri... 2012/07/01 14:22:58
  • Frank 2012/06/30 21:01:09
    Undecided
    Frank
    +2
    If any organization is suspected of being involved in terrorist activities- or of violating any of our laws in the name of of religion- they should be monitored- as many racist and other religious hate groups already are. If any group is freely practicing their religion and abide by our secular laws- even those that conflict with their religion- then under the constitution they have the complete right to freely practice their religion.

    But as has been demonstrated many times- when the exercise of one's religion conflicts with state secular law then the state law overrides. This is the great protection provided by the establishment clause in the First Amendment of the Constitution. The only way to protect against what some regard as the "Islamic Threat" is to keep and even strengthen the separation of Church from State.

    But action cannot be taken simply because some view the role of the government is to protect the status of the current majority religion. There has to be proof of terrorist activity. The government still hasn't been able to ban the KKK but they have succeeded in suppressing their illegal activities. That is the price of living in a free society.
  • Selkets... Frank 2012/07/01 02:02:41 (edited)
    Selketskiss
    +3
    I watched the DVD and it is as clear as night and day...I hardly think training to slit throats, how to carjack, and how to make bombs and blowing up stuff has anything to do with a peaceful religion...Thanks for your reply..
  • Frank Selkets... 2012/07/01 11:01:17
    Frank
    +2
    Then you crack down on terrorist organizations. But Christian terrorists (there have been some) don't make a good excuse to crack down on Christianity- just the terrorist organizations that call themselves Christians. The "Reverend" Fred Phelps does not represent all of Christianity- for example.

    The best- and only real defense against what you fear- is separation of church from state- applied evenhandedly to every religion. It is the only thing that will keep the government from being integrated by any religion- and will prevent the government from establishing a religious tyranny of any kind. It was the pure genius of the Founding Fathers
  • MarinerFH 2012/06/30 16:20:01
    Yes
    MarinerFH
    +4
    America needs to do the same re Illegal Aliens as well as Muslims.
  • Selkets... MarinerFH 2012/07/01 02:17:23
    Selketskiss
    +2
    One can only hope that our gov will step up and get the illegal situation under control but it seems like the gov is to busy fighting with each other to get anything done...thanks for your reply Marinerfh
  • MarinerFH Selkets... 2012/07/01 02:26:37
    MarinerFH
    +2
    Both parties have special interests. Obama wants Hispanic votes while Republicans want their backers to have cheap labor.
  • irish -liberty or death! 2012/06/30 15:47:17
    Undecided
    irish -liberty or death!
    1st you have to make the govt go after itself and israel.

    "It appears that not only Israel, but the US in tandem with Mossad have been training, arming, financing, harboring, and directing the US State Department-listed foreign terror organization (#29) Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) since as early as 2005 where MEK terrorists were brought to Las Vegas, Nevada to train".
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/06/30 15:20:50
    Yes
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +5
    But, will NEVER happen. Not so long as the liberal scum is in power. In fact, they are aligning themselves with the worst of the worst here in the USA. This book partially explains it. Only when the liberal homos are being strung up from the nearest tall flag poles and the reporters are being shot and being buried in mass graves will there ever be a change in the mindset. Maybe not even then.

    united in hate
  • Selkets... CUDDLY ... 2012/06/30 15:32:18 (edited)
    Selketskiss
    +3
    Thanks for your reply and the heads up on this book..
  • Frank CUDDLY ... 2012/06/30 21:12:57
    Frank
    +2
    Interesting viewpoint- the best way to protect the nation and democracy here in the US is to execute anyone that does not adhere to the political views of one group- or don't have the sexual orientation that some religiously motivated would like like to establish as law, and those in the press who dare to report on anything that the desired political party does not like.

    It would only be through the establishment of a theocracy, a singular political dictatorship, and genocide that democracy can be preserved. That is the way I read your statement.

    I guess it is only through the establishment of the "desired" tyranny that supposed tyranny on the left can be defeated.
  • CUDDLY ... Frank 2012/07/01 02:10:58
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +2
    The book does not have an EMPTY title.

    It's not approved reading material for you leftists by the DNC, therefore you will feel free to critique at your leisure.

    Dimwits.
  • Frank CUDDLY ... 2012/07/01 11:38:20 (edited)
    Frank
    +1
    My comments were directed at the rhetoric you posted. People throw around harsh language for effect- but what you are calling for is genocide and dictatorship- and use hatred to rationalize it. What can be more hateful than to suggest that people are murdered and buried in mass graves? And the reason for deciding that all people within the defined group should be exterminated?- Their supposed political beliefs or sexual orientation. I see little difference between the hatred expressed in your comments and the hatred expressed by al qaeda.

    I have no doubt that the book you suggest helps you feel comfortable with the sentiments you expressed. Of course because the title of the book supports your desired worldview- then you accept it without question- every hyperbolic view expressed is objective fact to you because it is what you want to hear. If a leftist book was presented with as inflammatory a title as the one in that book- if you did not dismiss it outright- you would rightfully apply critical thinking skills and skepticism to every allegation in that book. I suggest applying the same level of criticism to the book you present. That is called objectivity.
  • CUDDLY ... Frank 2012/07/01 15:42:21
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +2
    Looks like you've done a fine job of critiquing the book even w/o having read it. If you are trying to appear full of wisdom, you have failed miserably.
  • Frank CUDDLY ... 2012/07/01 16:40:28
    Frank
    +1
    No I didn't critique the book- I dismissed it out of hand by the title. Yes I don't expect an ounce of objectivity- it is just for people who want to validate their opinion.

    I challenged you to be objective and critique the book- but I think that is where I have failed- I don't believe you would look to that book with anything but acceptance of what is printed on the pages without verifying the information contained- or the connections asserted. I'm not very interested in any book that is supposed to define a "group" of people. I try to see everyone as individuals.
  • CUDDLY ... Frank 2012/07/01 16:41:52
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +2
    Only the small-minded would dismiss ANY book based on the cover.

    You yourself have validated what you've tried to portray me as.
  • Frank CUDDLY ... 2012/07/01 16:55:03 (edited)
    Frank
    +1
    I am not obligated to read any book. I am very busy and need to be selective. I only like to read factual books- about history and science. The bookstores are full of rhetorical books that are opinion orientated about politics. Quite frankly, I am bored with and nauseated by the tone of political debate in this nation. I would feel the same way about a book comparing Bush to hitler- I have no time for it.

    I have no time to read a hardy boys mystery either- does that make me closed minded?

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