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German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault. Agree or Disagree?

Foxhound BN0 2012/06/27 02:21:41
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Circumcising young boys on religious grounds amounts to grievous bodily harm, a German court ruled Tuesday in a landmark decision.
The regional court in Cologne, western Germany, ruled that the "fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents", a judgement that is expected to set a legal precedent.
German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault. Agree or Disagree?

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  • Phil 2013/12/15 14:09:14 (edited)
    Agree
    Phil
    +1
    It should be a crime to circumcise any male without his approval in writing.

    Just look at what happened when those primitive African tribes & Muslims were circumcising girls!

    Males need equal rights in not being forced into bodily mutilations.
  • Keegan The Fabulous 2013/12/15 00:36:28
    Agree
    Keegan The Fabulous
    +2
    As abominable as the Holocaust was, that doesn't give you the right to mutilate babies without a second thought as those of you who disagree with the verdict say it does.
  • No nonsense NanC...don't BS... 2013/12/14 23:38:31
    Disagree
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    Did they also rule out vaginal mutilation of females?
  • Foxhoun... No nons... 2013/12/15 13:30:41
    Foxhound BN0
    that fact that you disagree is disgusting but yeah it would stand to reason that anyone but an idiot who is against mutilation of one gender would be against it for the other. of course this isn't third grade and so cases like this have to deal with one issue at a time, not all of them at once just so some crybaby won't whine, "did they talk about this other thing too?"
  • No nons... Foxhoun... 2013/12/15 18:28:57
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    Not whining......just a question because there is a sizable Muslim population there.




    We have recently read about increased vaginal mutilation in the British population
    which like Germany has a sizable Muslim population. Why is it that only
    Liberals like you would consider that question as "whining"?

    You said, "of course this isn't third grade and so cases like this have to deal with one issue at a time, not all of them at once just so some crybaby won't whine, "did they talk about this other thing too?"

    That is a typical response from Progressive 0-bots, who never want to answer a simple
    question, but instead turn it around and insult others. Your response says more
    about you than it does about me...............I suspect you do it to feel superior, which
    is the reason you and yours call people racist who express anything which is negative about 0bama's policies and agenda. I think it is done for 0-bots to feel you are superior
    and more tolerant than others.............That is Bullsh*t!

    BTW, I am bracing myself for more and more attacks from 0-bots now that he
    has been named author of the biggest lie in 2013 and his popularity is rapidly falling......

    obama s ratings
  • Foxhoun... No nons... 2013/12/15 18:34:02
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    Your question and arguments are irrelevant. I asked a simple question and you answered it with another. Apparently what you think is right or wrong is based on whether or not someone addressed another problem or what someone else did, or didn't do. It's retarded. Thank you.
  • Robbb Foxhoun... 2013/12/17 11:02:20
    Robbb
    +1
    this other thing is being spoken about all the time.
  • Foxhoun... Robbb 2013/12/17 11:24:31
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    I know. Right wingers always have to drag something else into the argument.

    Did Bush torture babies?
    "Did Obama?"
    Like it fking matters. Idiots.
  • Robbb No nons... 2013/12/17 11:01:21
    Robbb
    +1
    they did that a long time ago.
  • LMA 2013/12/14 23:35:28
    Disagree
    LMA
    +1
    does it shock anyone that Germans would ban a Jewish tradition?
  • Foxhoun... LMA 2013/12/15 13:31:26
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    why should tradition trump the rights of the child. that's just stupid.
  • No nons... Foxhoun... 2013/12/15 18:45:33
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    Another stupid response to a poster............who disagrees with you. Circumcision
    is a religious tradition in the Jewish religion. I bet you are one who would object
    to any negative statement about Islam..........because you have tolerance and are entrenched in the "politically correct".

    There are beliefs that circumcision is related to the health of the penis and the woman's vagina. If you were in the healthcare profession and pulled back the foreskin of patients to do genital care only to find a clump of yellow disgusting stinking collection of matter that looks like cheese under the foreskin. But once again you are making a judgment about a procedure and assume, like many Liberals, that you conclusions are right and
    should be forced upon others............It just adds to my belief that Liberals are
    very intolerant of others but claim that they are very tolerant and accuse
    Conservatives of being very intolerant.............
  • Foxhoun... No nons... 2013/12/15 19:02:48
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    ... and cutting off babies' boobs prevents breast cancer. what's your big point?
  • No nons... Foxhoun... 2013/12/15 19:44:15
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    I made my point and your analogy is absolutely the worse comparison
    possible.

    playing stupid
  • Robbb No nons... 2013/12/17 11:19:38
    Robbb
    +1
    How many infant die from not being circumcised in the US. more then a hundred are killed as a result of this savagery every year. More then SIDS
  • Robbb No nons... 2013/12/17 11:17:39
    Robbb
    +1
    There may be beliefs that there is a health connection but that is all it is circumcision is unhygienic and harmful both physical and psychologically. This liberal is not circumcised and neither were any of his family. what you describe is nonsense and sounds like something that was told to you by snake oil salesmen. i.e you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. if circumcision had anything going for it it would surely be practiced by more then 15% of the worlds population. and would be done as soon as a man was old enough to do it of his own accord. the truth however is that this disgusting practice is forced on infants that cant defend themselves. this is not a matter of being intolerant this is a matter of the rights of a child to be left undamaged.
  • LMA Foxhoun... 2013/12/15 19:44:34
    LMA
    it's got more to due with religious freedom, The practice is almost 5000 years old and causes no health risk.
  • Foxhoun... LMA 2013/12/16 03:10:10 (edited)
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    Slavery is even older and that doesn't make it okay.

    Mutilating babies' genitals is wrong, even if you're an idiot who talks to the sky.
    And that's a lie btw. It DOES have health risks and definite negative consequences for the amputee.
  • LMA Foxhoun... 2013/12/16 03:41:09
    LMA
    i agree it is a little stupid, but it is a legitimate aspect of Jewish which represents the covet between Abraham and god, I'm not a religious person but that does not give me or anyone else to tell them what to believe, it is a completely harmless practice, Unlike slavery or the Muslim practice of female circumcision which is not done for any other reason then to make a women more submissive and to curve sexual desire.

    I would also like to know what these risks are, Circumcision has been a common practice in the USA for over 100 years, It was though to have hygienic benefits, of course that turned out to be some progressivist BS, but still almost all men in the US are circumcised and that's not a bad thing, It makes sex feel better
  • Foxhoun... LMA 2013/12/16 22:12:41
  • LMA Foxhoun... 2013/12/17 01:39:09
  • Foxhoun... LMA 2013/12/17 09:48:03
    Foxhound BN0
    nonsense.
  • Robbb LMA 2013/12/17 11:28:46
    Robbb
    +1
    so do the Christians in north Africa as a mater of fact the practice with women started before Christianity and well before the Muslim religion. The practice of circumcision is not as common as you think less then 20% of the worlds men are circumcised and most that are are Muslims.This has nothing to do with oppression. I suppose your idea of tying down an infant and subjecting him a most painful procedure is not considered oppression. An infant deserves to be protected while they are defenseless. many jews dont do this to their children.
  • Robbb LMA 2013/12/17 11:22:23
    Robbb
    +1
    You have no idea what you are talking about, it is not a harmless practice at all on the contrary .
  • Robbb LMA 2013/12/17 11:20:03 (edited)
    Robbb
    +1
    How many infant die from not being circumcised in the US. more then a hundred are killed as a result of this savagery every year. More then SIDS
    So you think one should be able to do anything to a child because you want to mark him with your religion?
  • Robbb LMA 2013/12/17 11:09:20
    Robbb
    +1
    does it shock anyone that anyone would allow the mutilation of male infants genitals but not those of females. Not all Jews partake in mutilating their children. and why should any country sanction the mutilation of a child's genitals. in this case it has come to the attention of the Authority's because of the fact that Muslims do it. the Jewish representation in Germany is hardly worth talking about and many of them dont circumcise their children in any case.
  • LMA Robbb 2013/12/19 05:14:58
    LMA
    you couldn't put that all in one thread, Don't care what you say, I'm not a Jew or a christian or Muslim, But i respect their right to practice. As far as savagery is concerned I would consider many law enforcement practices to be more savage.
  • Jesse 2013/12/14 22:32:27
    Disagree
    Jesse
    It's more a Parent's choice.
  • Foxhoun... Jesse 2013/12/15 13:32:01
    Foxhound BN0
    it's the child's dick dumas. it's not the parent's choice.
  • Jesse Foxhoun... 2013/12/15 14:34:32
    Jesse
    Oh, you mean like killing your baby is _NOT_ the parent's choice?
  • Foxhoun... Jesse 2013/12/15 14:47:31
    Foxhound BN0
    so you are saying killing your baby IS?
  • Jesse Foxhoun... 2013/12/15 18:59:40
    Jesse
    You shouldn't have one position without the other. I'm saying if you believe Circumcision is NOT the parent's choice, then neither should abortion be the parent's choice.
  • Foxhoun... Jesse 2013/12/15 19:05:16 (edited)
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    so you believe parents should be allowed to kill their babies.
  • Jesse Foxhoun... 2013/12/17 15:42:17
    Jesse
    I see you have nothing further to add. Your admission of defeat is accepted.
  • Foxhoun... Jesse 2013/12/17 21:56:10 (edited)
    Foxhound BN0
    Hey, you think it's up to the parents if they want to kill their baby. You said so yourself. What can I say?
  • Robbb Jesse 2013/12/19 11:30:10
    Robbb
    so you believe that parents that kill their babes should be allowed to mutilate their children's genitals but ones that dont ipsofacso should not
  • Robbb Jesse 2013/12/17 11:30:04
    Robbb
    +1
    Why is it not the choice of the owner of the mutilated penis? is it also the parents choice to sexually interfere with their child?
  • Foxhoun... Robbb 2013/12/17 21:58:55
    Foxhound BN0
    He said the parents can decide to kill the baby so he's not worried about mutilating its penis.
  • Robbb Foxhoun... 2013/12/18 22:25:18
    Robbb
    Whenever there is a discussion about this subject. the roaches that promote child mutilation come out of the woodwork. at no time has anyone suggested that the killing of baby's that are born can be excuse unless they are followers of the bible. which by the way has no problem at all with abortion. going down that path of argument is stupid and the same as the argument that people should not use contraceptives or the morning after pills. Never the less the post is about the point that according to the Germans the mutilation of a child's penis is assault, and so it is. This decision has nothing to do with abortion. this is about assault.the same as if you were dragged of the street and had a piece of your body cut of to satisfy some perverse religious or cultural need.
  • Robbb Jesse 2013/12/19 11:27:31
    Robbb
    so what if the child finds out that his equipment has been mutilated at a later date would it be reasonable for him to feel that he was deliberately damaged without his permission and would he be reasonable to feel aggrieved. The idea that a parent can do anything to a child is utter nonsense. If that was the case there would be no need for child welfare rules.
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