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George Zimmerman Charged With Second-Degree Murder: Fair or Foul?

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It took prosecutors a month and a half to charge George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, but Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey announced the charge on Wednesday, just days after dismissing the grand jury. He's being charged with second-degree murder, and could face life in prison. This doesn't mean he's guilty, but it does mean he's in prison for the time being.

Zimmerman arrived at the Polk Correctional Facility in Florida Wednesday night after the 28-year-old surrendered to law enforcement. Lawyers on both sides of the case anticipate a long and arduous trial. Zimmerman's new lawyers says he is "not concerned about [Zimmerman's] mental well-being" and expects "justice in the end." Martin's mother just wants to "ask him if there were another way that he could have settled the confrontation." Do you think the charges against George Zimmerman sound fair -- or foul?

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  • Harriet Tubman 2012/04/12 16:03:16 (edited)
    Foul
    Harriet Tubman
    +66
    Prosecutor will have to get all twelve jurors to vote to convict to get this silly murder charge upheld. She knows that is hopeless. The charge carries some lesser homicide charges as "included lesser charges" (like manslaughter) which they can compromise on. The hope would be that by asking for murder 2, they can get Zimmerman to agree to accept something like negligent homicide. If he does, he is being gullible, for they can never get twelve Floridians to agree he is culpable. Even if they get an all black jury, getting twelve of us to agree he did not have the right to defend himself just because his attacker is black would be very unlikely. Too many of us have had family or friends who have been attacked by young men like Trayvon. Having worked with victims of abuse for many years, my sympathy for the victim of the attack (Zimmerman) far outweighs my identification as a Florida black.

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  • jubil8 ... Jeri 2012/04/19 18:16:16
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    I thought she was very nervous. She knew that whatever she said would be criticized, so she had tried to make her statement as comprehensive as possible so people couldn't say "She should have said this or that" instead. Just imo.

    Tx for explaining.
  • Inquisi... Jeri 2012/04/14 20:34:53
    Inquisitve Kat
    +1
    Well, now those who are qualified to determine his innocence (or guilt) will be able to do so, without people like you or me pretending to be experts on the matter.
  • Joey Jeri 2012/04/14 23:39:46
    Joey
    +3
    Did you see the picture of Zimmerman .. his nose was not broken . but since he said so and Martin is black lets take Zimmermans word on it .
  • teigan Joey 2012/04/15 00:57:53
    teigan
    +1
    No let's wait for the doctors report. I think we're on the right track now to get at the truth. People condemning Tryvon are no better than Sharpton. They're just not bright enough to see it.
  • Jeri Joey 2012/04/15 19:45:50
    Jeri
    There is a medical report of the broken nose, and it was looked at and it is in the evidence, but I highly doubt you will be able to accept that.
  • Joey Jeri 2012/04/15 20:00:54
    Joey
    +1
    As of right now that is not the case. He only said this, and trun down the EMT when they tried to take him to the ER . Tell me if you are hurt that bad why would you say that you did not need to go to the ER ?
  • Mr. Won... Jeri 2012/04/15 02:51:22 (edited)
    Mr. Wonderful
    +3
    Damn you Zimmerman defenders are ignorant of facts. Martin was guned down less than 30 yards from his front door. Kind of looks like he was just trying to get home.

    I don't give a rat's ass of Martin was a cocky as hell, he wasn't doing a damn thing wrong and was guned down by what appears to be a mental case. Zimmerman is not the angel you try to paint. He had at least two serious run ins with the law both for violent assault and he has a shaved head, ergo, a skin-head, on the prowl with a gun looking for a reason to shoot somebody.
  • Jeri Mr. Won... 2012/04/15 19:54:17
    Jeri
    Well it should all come out now and we will see who has been ignorant of the facts.
  • liberal... Jeri 2012/04/15 04:11:35
    liberal_AHole
    +1
    Yeah the Black man should know his place, right! How dare he walk through a white neighborhood
  • Jeri liberal... 2012/04/15 19:39:32
    Jeri
    I do not remember saying anything about a black man not be able to walk thru the neighborhood, they walk thru my neigborhood all the time and I do not get a gun or call 911. So your assumption is way off base, blacks can be racist too I hear a lot of statements on how the white man is the devil so just knock off the Racist Crap.
  • sgp81 2012/04/14 19:43:09
    Fair
    sgp81
    +2
    it is the only way that the truth can come out. one way or another.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/04/14 19:34:41
  • joe ramirez 2012/04/14 19:14:16
    Foul
    joe ramirez
    +1
    What he did was wrong but he did NOT have a fair trial, because of the leftist Media,the leftist Jesse Jackson, the instigator's Jermiah Wright and his cohorts,black panther's, and all kind's of false accusation's!
  • jubil8 ... joe ram... 2012/04/14 20:15:01
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    He hasn't had ANY trial yet.
  • Joey joe ram... 2012/04/14 23:44:44
    Joey
    +1
    Jermiah Wright you just pulled that one out of know where
  • teigan joe ram... 2012/04/15 00:58:54
    teigan
    What trial?
  • aazeen 2012/04/14 19:09:44
    Fair
    aazeen
    +1
    he deserve more, like a first-degree murder
  • P. Sturm 2012/04/14 18:59:02
    Fair
    P. Sturm
    +2
    I don't know for sure. I don't have all the evidence to view. Experienced prosecutors are usually good judges about what can be proven.
  • Mr. Won... P. Sturm 2012/04/15 14:00:45
    Mr. Wonderful
    +2
    The conviction rate across the United States on criminal charges averages about 75% but varies by state. Numbers from about a decade ago. California 82%, Texas 84%, 72% in New York and Florida 59%.
  • Mike56 2012/04/14 18:57:11
    Foul
    Mike56
    +1
    The worst thing to do is to give in to the mob rule, especially if the fascist instigators like Black Panthers, Sharpton, Jackson, etc. are behind the "new approach".
  • Howard L. Chapman 2012/04/14 18:56:24
    Fair
    Howard L. Chapman
    +1
    More than fair, he should have been charged with First Degree Murder, and the death penalty asked for!
  • Mike56 Howard ... 2012/04/14 18:59:13
    Mike56
    +2
    really, simply because the bloodthirsty mob wants it?
    Would you that certain if Martin was white and the watch captain black? I doubt it, Mr/Ms racist.
  • dianne615 Mike56 2012/04/15 00:56:29
    dianne615
    +1
    Everyone deserves their day in court but lets clarify one thing, if this was in reverse they would have built a jail on top of Trayvn Martin, I can see it now "Black teen kills unarm white male." GUILTY!
  • Mike56 dianne615 2012/04/15 14:44:41 (edited)
    Mike56
    You "can see" what has nothing to do with reality, because you are blinded with your hatred and ignorance. The fascist mob like Panthers should not guide the judicial system
  • dianne615 Mike56 2012/04/15 15:42:13 (edited)
    dianne615
    Sir and I use the word with respect because we are both adults; our judicial system has worked for hundredth of years and without guild or aid from the Panthers or the Ku Klux Klan. Although there is a big difference between the two groups, but I’m sure you’re not to ignorance or blinded to figure out what that difference is.
  • Mike56 dianne615 2012/04/15 18:32:05 (edited)
    Mike56
    Sure. KKK has no influence in the modern USA whatsoever, while the Panthers could force any made up investigation, or even commit any crime and the "AG" would cover up.

    With the "president" dedicated to surgically changing the "living organism" aka constitution, your rewference to “hundreds years” makes no sense. Or maybe you know about Mr. Holder’s public reaction to the open theats the Panthers keep making?
  • dianne615 Mike56 2012/04/15 23:36:12
    dianne615
    +1
    Please stop you should have written the KKK has no influence now in the modern USA, let say and I'm not for this because I don't believe any prejudice group should have any say, But let just say we give the Panthers as long as the KKK had to murder, terrorize, hang, hurt and maim which started in 1850’s till 1970, wouldn’t that mean that the Panthers had some catching up to do. And not to argue the point I don’t think the Panthers have ever dragged someone out of their homes and hung them to the family tree. Sir ever year they remind us of the Holocaust which lasted for about 10years, but you known slavery lasted for a little over three hundred years do you know how many blacks died in the long of a time. When the Jews were freed blacks had to give up there sit to them and yet we help build the country. You know why they don’t show Roots every year like they show the Diary of Anne Frank’s because it’s better to push what your kind did under a rug. Look up what your people did to my people one day and see who was worse Hitler or the United States.
  • Mike56 dianne615 2012/04/16 14:53:53 (edited)
    Mike56
    Sorry, but your post shows you have little understanding what you are talking about.
    1. The blacks in the US were treated badly, but contrary to what some might imply, they didn't leave freedom in Africa - they were merely sold by African slave owners to American slave owners. Are you going to deny that?
    2. How the facts of the bad past would justify the "AG"'s cover up?
    3. Don't you realize that by allowing the Panthers to terrorize, because once it was allowed KKK, is going to spark the conflict when you, the blacks, are going to pay higher price than the "whities"?
    4. Holocaust was not just about the largest number of murdered innocent people per a short period of time - it is about purposeful, institutionalized elimination. It was one of national priorities, kind of ritual murder. Was it the national priority to reduce or even nulify the slaves' population in the US? If you did not get it, how can you call for sensitivity when it comes to your pains? I am not saying you should feel more sorrow about Jewish suffering than grievances "your people" had, just think a little, before making your statements. Not to mention, blacks were as "inferior race" for Hitler as Jews - he claimed Jews were masked Negroes. He just didn't have enough blacks under his power at the time to initiate the other Holocaust against them.
  • dianne615 Mike56 2012/04/16 23:13:31 (edited)
    dianne615
    +1
    Sorry, but your post shows you have little understanding of what you're talking about.

    What I find funny is that you’re trying to justify slavery to An Africa American, now that’s laughable. What the Jaws went though was terrible they lost their homes, the lives and their family, wait we lost our home, our lives (Millions) our history. I’m not comparing the two because neither should have happen and you’re right warring tribes sold their captured rival tribe however more were stolen from their homeland then sold. Africa sold their enemy but a civil war had to be proclaim because it was more profitable to keep slaves than to set them free, take a real good look at our complexion and you’ll understand the added benefits of keeping slaves for over 300yrs. As I understand history other counties freely gave up the business of slavery before the United States. You’re the one that should think about statements because the United State and other countries went out of their way to help the Jewish people find their relative. Did you know in some circle an African American is called a mutt? Did you know most Black people can’t go pass the 1900, hundreds when it comes to ancestry? In my own family I can’t go pass 1933, there are no records of our families; we were property, just like a ...
    Sorry, but your post shows you have little understanding of what you're talking about.

    What I find funny is that you’re trying to justify slavery to An Africa American, now that’s laughable. What the Jaws went though was terrible they lost their homes, the lives and their family, wait we lost our home, our lives (Millions) our history. I’m not comparing the two because neither should have happen and you’re right warring tribes sold their captured rival tribe however more were stolen from their homeland then sold. Africa sold their enemy but a civil war had to be proclaim because it was more profitable to keep slaves than to set them free, take a real good look at our complexion and you’ll understand the added benefits of keeping slaves for over 300yrs. As I understand history other counties freely gave up the business of slavery before the United States. You’re the one that should think about statements because the United State and other countries went out of their way to help the Jewish people find their relative. Did you know in some circle an African American is called a mutt? Did you know most Black people can’t go pass the 1900, hundreds when it comes to ancestry? In my own family I can’t go pass 1933, there are no records of our families; we were property, just like a mule or a house only there was record on the ladder two. I can’t tell my daughter about her great, great anyone. And you want to give me a reason not to remember that I don’t know my real last name. I know about your history but do you know of mine. You’re the one that needs sensitivity training.
    Bye
    (more)
  • Mike56 dianne615 2012/04/17 02:08:40 (edited)
    Mike56
    Sorry, I overestimated your cognitive abilities. You are not going to hear anything but the "they owe us" narrative. You ignorance seems very convenient to you, otherwise you'd know the difference between the premeditated genocide and unfair treatment. If you were willing to educate yourself, you'd have known that "Jaws" in Soviet Union were more deprived than blacks in the US after the 60s. And "people can't go past 1900" is reality for millions, including Europeans - I "cannot pass" myslef. Also, you would have acknowledged that slavery is still a fact of life in some countries, including African.

    To me, covering up for the Panthers is racism. Obviously, you have excuses for the "AG".
  • dianne615 Mike56 2012/04/17 10:37:37
    dianne615
    Please don’t misunderstand I don’t wish any harsh treatment on any race of people and I don’t care what color their skin is. As I said why don't they air what happen to Black people each year? I believe it because some of you people can't handle the truth. You’re talking about everything that didn't happen in this country. Slavery was a part of this countries evil history an atrocity that this country did to a whole race of people, which I notice you didn’t mention. Could it be that you think slavery wasn’t as bad as the others because the skin tone was different.

    Sir they were still hanging blacks in the 60's, Remember Mr. Bell who had a chain put around his neck a drag behind a truck, I think that was in the 80's.
  • Mike56 dianne615 2012/04/17 16:56:41
    Mike56
    Simply because if the Panthers and Farrakhan/Sharpton/Jackson do not instigate conflicts, that would have been nothing but bad memories, while the Holocaust-creating ideology is well alive and kicking and now supported by the scum I've meentioned above.
    How about the Islamo-Nazis cutting the head of Richard Perl, merelly because he was a Jew? What was the reaction of the phony "civil rights" talkers?

    and you are dodging my questions about the "AG"'s consistent cover up.
  • dianne615 Mike56 2012/04/17 21:07:36 (edited)
    dianne615
    +1
    http://www.youtube.com/v/Dy1F...

    This is bye sir because I can tell you feel whatever is done or has been done to black people is alright with you. This is my last post to you because once a bigot always a bigot. You reconize every nationality that has been wronge but the one that was done in this country.
  • Mike56 dianne615 2012/04/18 04:42:21
    Mike56
    dianne, each of your posts shows you feel you are wrong, but the deep seeded prejudice and probaly pride wouldn't let you admit it. As a result, your baseless labeling, instead of attemting to address your opponents' arguments. Well, if anybody who reminds you that not only "your people" suffered and that making others pay for what their predecessors did (in most cases did not) 200 years ago is a bogot your world - I have to leave you. Enjoy your eternal victimhood business model.

    Any time you need my help as a friend, not as a guity debitor, though, I am ready.
  • Howard ... Mike56 2012/05/06 02:45:06 (edited)
    Howard L. Chapman
    I don't give a rats ass what color he is, as far as I'm concerned he wasn't licensed to carry a weapon and then killed a teenager, color not withstanding. No neighborhood watch in the country is authorized to carry a 'piece' while patrolling, cops are the only ones to carry, even off duty. I can't help but wonder what penalty you'd call for if it was your kid, brother, sister or other family member that was murdered. Sounds to me like some of the one's calling for the 2nd Degree Homicide charge are the ones that have never lost a brother to violent crime. I have in 78 (in New Jersey). I am done with this conversation, I choose not to address this issue/comment pertaining to the boys murder, and that sure as hell is what it was, anymore.
  • Mike56 Howard ... 2012/05/06 10:48:58
    Mike56
    I guess you are quoting a "liberal" piece of propaganda with regard to the Florida "authirization". You seem to froget that the laws in the "country" differ, depending on the state you live in.

    AS for "murder" - you are a very good illustration how you, "liberals", neglect the law and due process, if you are helping your nothing candidates to get re-elected.
  • jubil8 ... Howard ... 2012/04/14 20:17:16
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    He'd never be convicted of first degree murder -- premeditation is tough to prove, and his 911 call pretty well makes it clear that he wasn't thinking of killing Trayvon until a very short time before it happened.

    Second degree contains all the lesser charges, so there's room for both sides to maneuver. Lawyers like to maneuver. :)
  • Mr. Won... jubil8 ... 2012/04/15 05:18:09
  • jubil8 ... Mr. Won... 2012/04/19 05:19:55
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    More than politicians? That's a low blow.
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