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irish June 05, 2009 14:38:52

Torture Is Not a Partisan Issue . . . George Washington - Who Was Neither a Democrat or Republican - Forbid All Torture

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Those trying to make torture into a partisan issue should look to the founding father of our country: George Washington.

Washington was president before political parties even existed.

As Scott Horton wrote in 2007:


“Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.” - George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775…

After the battle [of Trenton, New Jersey on December 26, 1776.], the Continentals were preparing to run some of the British Empire’s German mercenaries through what they called the “gauntlet.” General Washington discovered this and intervened. As … explained in the Huffington Post, Washington then issued an order to his troops regarding prisoners of war:

“‘Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to complain of our copying the brutal example of the British Army in their treatment of our unfortunate brethren who have fallen into their hands,’ he wrote. In all respects the prisoners were to be treated no worse than American soldiers; and in some respects, better. Through this approach, Washington sought to shame his British adversaries, and to demonstrate the moral superiority of the American cause.”

In the worst of times – when foreign troops literally occupied American soil, torturing and murdering American patriots – and few believed that the cause of the revolution could ultimately win against the might of the British Empire, the first Commander in Chief of the U.S.A. set the precedent that this society is to lead even our enemies by “benignant sympathy of [our] example.” To win the war against the occupying army of Redcoats, the American revolutionaries needed right on their side.

And it worked. Many of the German Hessians in fact joined the revolutionaries in their fight against the English and stayed here in America to be free when the war was won.
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    Dave June 05, 2009 14:51:46
    Dave

    Undecided

    The fact that is overlooked here is the huge difference that religion played in establishing the morality of the 18th century in America. Sadly we seem to have lost that early innocence.

    Religion played a major role in the American Revolution by offering a moral sanction for opposition to the British--an assurance to the average American that revolution was justified in the sight of God. As a recent scholar has observed, "by turning colonial resistance into a righteous cause, and by crying the message to all ranks in all parts of the colonies, ministers did the work of secular radicalism and did it better."

    Ministers served the American cause in many capacities during the Revolution: as military chaplains, as penmen for committees of correspondence, and as members of state legislatures, constitutional conventions and the national Congress. Some even took up arms, leading Continental troops in battle.

    The Revolution split some denominations, notably the Church of England, whose ministers were bound by oath to support the King, and the Quakers, who were traditionally pacifists. Religious practice suffered in certain places because of the absence of ministers and the destruction of churches, but in other areas, religion flourished.

    The Revolution strengthened millennialist st...'""'
    The fact that is overlooked here is the huge difference that religion played in establishing the morality of the 18th century in America. Sadly we seem to have lost that early innocence.

    Religion played a major role in the American Revolution by offering a moral sanction for opposition to the British--an assurance to the average American that revolution was justified in the sight of God. As a recent scholar has observed, "by turning colonial resistance into a righteous cause, and by crying the message to all ranks in all parts of the colonies, ministers did the work of secular radicalism and did it better."

    Ministers served the American cause in many capacities during the Revolution: as military chaplains, as penmen for committees of correspondence, and as members of state legislatures, constitutional conventions and the national Congress. Some even took up arms, leading Continental troops in battle.

    The Revolution split some denominations, notably the Church of England, whose ministers were bound by oath to support the King, and the Quakers, who were traditionally pacifists. Religious practice suffered in certain places because of the absence of ministers and the destruction of churches, but in other areas, religion flourished.

    The Revolution strengthened millennialist strains in American theology. At the beginning of the war some ministers were persuaded that, with God's help, America might become "the principal Seat of the glorious Kingdom which Christ shall erect upon Earth in the latter Days." Victory over the British was taken as a sign of God's partiality for America and stimulated an outpouring of millennialist expectations--the conviction that Christ would rule on earth for 1,000 years. This attitude combined with a groundswell of secular optimism about the future of America to create the buoyant mood of the new nation that became so evident after Jefferson assumed the presidency in 1801.
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  • +2
    morning40oz~NeoRadical June 05, 2009 15:51:04
    morning40oz~NeoRadical

    we haven't learned

    We've learned nothing!!! We allow not only ourselves to be herded like sheep, but our moral compasses as well. Plain and simple, folks. TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT. This country is supposed to be the beacon of hope and the land of the free, not the land of the oppressive, torturing hypocrites! We have lived a lie for so long we don't even recognize right from wrong anymore. This government has played on the fear of the public for so long that we have given up our humanity, our sense of right and wrong. We chastise those who have sold their souls for money. It seems there are a whole lot who gave theirs away for nothing.

    Thomas Paine had nailed it: "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right."
  • +1
    irish morning... June 05, 2009 17:41:06
    irish
    too true!! and the last quote is right on!
  • +2
    hook June 05, 2009 15:30:19
    hook

    enlightened people

    george and other folks back then had more morals.
  • Zuggi June 05, 2009 15:04:37
    Zuggi

    All of the above

    George Washington was obviously UnAmerican.
  • +1
    irish Zuggi June 05, 2009 17:41:38
    irish
    you mean modern american.
  • +1
    hook irish June 05, 2009 17:48:25
    hook
    juggi just an ass,
  • +1
    irish hook June 05, 2009 17:52:17
    irish
    yeah i know,contrary larry.
  • +1
    hook irish June 05, 2009 18:23:12
    hook
    yep!!
  • +3
    Dave June 05, 2009 14:51:46
    Dave

    Undecided

    The fact that is overlooked here is the huge difference that religion played in establishing the morality of the 18th century in America. Sadly we seem to have lost that early innocence.

    Religion played a major role in the American Revolution by offering a moral sanction for opposition to the British--an assurance to the average American that revolution was justified in the sight of God. As a recent scholar has observed, "by turning colonial resistance into a righteous cause, and by crying the message to all ranks in all parts of the colonies, ministers did the work of secular radicalism and did it better."

    Ministers served the American cause in many capacities during the Revolution: as military chaplains, as penmen for committees of correspondence, and as members of state legislatures, constitutional conventions and the national Congress. Some even took up arms, leading Continental troops in battle.

    The Revolution split some denominations, notably the Church of England, whose ministers were bound by oath to support the King, and the Quakers, who were traditionally pacifists. Religious practice suffered in certain places because of the absence of ministers and the destruction of churches, but in other areas, religion flourished.

    The Revolution strengthened millennialist st...'""'
    The fact that is overlooked here is the huge difference that religion played in establishing the morality of the 18th century in America. Sadly we seem to have lost that early innocence.

    Religion played a major role in the American Revolution by offering a moral sanction for opposition to the British--an assurance to the average American that revolution was justified in the sight of God. As a recent scholar has observed, "by turning colonial resistance into a righteous cause, and by crying the message to all ranks in all parts of the colonies, ministers did the work of secular radicalism and did it better."

    Ministers served the American cause in many capacities during the Revolution: as military chaplains, as penmen for committees of correspondence, and as members of state legislatures, constitutional conventions and the national Congress. Some even took up arms, leading Continental troops in battle.

    The Revolution split some denominations, notably the Church of England, whose ministers were bound by oath to support the King, and the Quakers, who were traditionally pacifists. Religious practice suffered in certain places because of the absence of ministers and the destruction of churches, but in other areas, religion flourished.

    The Revolution strengthened millennialist strains in American theology. At the beginning of the war some ministers were persuaded that, with God's help, America might become "the principal Seat of the glorious Kingdom which Christ shall erect upon Earth in the latter Days." Victory over the British was taken as a sign of God's partiality for America and stimulated an outpouring of millennialist expectations--the conviction that Christ would rule on earth for 1,000 years. This attitude combined with a groundswell of secular optimism about the future of America to create the buoyant mood of the new nation that became so evident after Jefferson assumed the presidency in 1801.
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    hook Dave June 05, 2009 16:10:20
    hook
    your right dave,we have become slezzoinds
  • Cedar Creek Crony June 05, 2009 14:47:24
    Cedar Creek Crony

    None of the above

    That's because George Washington knew what real torture was wearing those tight pants and wooden teeth.

    george washington real torture wearing tight pants wooden teeth