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FROM PRISONER TO PRESIDENT-MORSI WINS EGYPTIAN ELECTION PEOPLE REJECT SCAF

VICTORIA 2012/06/24 17:05:16
The first civilian elected leader of Egypt. Yay
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While SCAF (military) has tried to de-fang any future President by dissolving the Parliament- the people have rejected Shafiq and chosen Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood candidate.
Secular Liberals held their noses and voted Morsi in- while the Muslim Brotherhood threatens to kick Morsi out of their party!

The infant Revolution is taking it's baby steps.

Egypt is exploding with jubilation at this moment.

Read More: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/06/2...

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  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/06/26 15:27:07
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    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    More Obama criminals that threatened christian voters if they dared vote. Potential mid east war moves up several notches. If military allows this religious hate monger to rule, Coptics, women and gays will suffer too. The Arab in the WH is happy though.
  • Jasmine 2012/06/26 01:55:30
    The first civilian elected leader of Egypt. Yay
    Jasmine
    Power to the people!!!
  • \V/ 2012/06/25 03:58:36
  • VICTORIA \V/ 2012/06/25 04:02:13
    VICTORIA
    +4
    Is THAT what you say? I wasn't aware you were from Ecuador.

    So how do you feel about the asylum offered to Mr. Assange?
    As happy as I?
  • \V/ VICTORIA 2012/06/25 14:09:53
  • Giantfan 2012/06/25 03:10:06
    Undecided
    Giantfan
    +3
    Hey it's their country and their elections. After all they've been around alot longer as a country then we have. Let them evolve into whatever they choose.
  • VICTORIA Giantfan 2012/06/25 03:51:25
    VICTORIA
    +2
    They're working on it.
  • Giantfan VICTORIA 2012/06/25 14:11:57
    Giantfan
    I just hope they get a civilized type of government and a peaceful one. I don't trust religious run governments including our own. Religion and government should always be kept seperated.
  • CHUCK 2012/06/24 21:04:31 (edited)
    Undecided
    CHUCK
    YEAH FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD,,THE RELIGION OF PEACE..

    EXCEPT FOR WOMEN,CHRISTIANS AND ISRAEL..
  • VICTORIA CHUCK 2012/06/24 21:36:40
    VICTORIA
    +4
    Israel has already killed their first Gazan today- Mohamad Qishta- Rafah was closed at 2PM.
  • CHUCK VICTORIA 2012/06/24 21:53:53
    CHUCK
    +1
    THE GAZANS FIRED ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL YESTERDAY..
  • Giantfan CHUCK 2012/06/25 03:13:20
    Giantfan
    They sound alot like the present day republicans. The party of fairness except for women's pay and bodies, minorities rights, gay rights and voting rights.
  • VICTORIA Giantfan 2012/06/25 03:59:36
    VICTORIA
    +2
    I'd say in no way comparable to our GOP.
    Actually, Morsi did not address gay rights today- but he did address minority rights and women's rights- and vowed to protect them both. We shall see- it is more likely though- he's actually suffered and been imprisoned for his beliefs- he wouldn't leave the prison even though he was released until the gov investigated ALL of the MB prisoners-

    Egypt has been imprisoning and persecuting, executing and torturing members of the Ikhwan(MB) loooong before Mubarak came into office.
    http://www.ikhwanweb.com/

    I will (as will Morsi/mercy and the rest of the Islamic world) depend upon Ali Gomaa when it comes to homosexual rights.

    And oh- the Gazans did NOT fire rockets into Israel yesterday.
    They were just sitting ducks when the Rafah gate was closed.
  • Giantfan VICTORIA 2012/06/25 15:08:53
    Giantfan
    I didn't read any stories about firing rockets but I saw some headlines. To me it's just old hat. I've come to expect rockets being fired and Israel striking back. There is very little love there and alot of hate. There is nothing good about hate and both sides teach it to their children so we can't expect it to go away anytime soon. Religion wa suppose to be for the personal worship of God but it has turned into an excuse to hate and fight and kill anyone who doesn't agree with a certain way of thinking. All religions are guilty but some take it to extremes. No one is guiltless.
  • Max 2012/06/24 17:59:18
    The first civilian elected leader of Egypt. Yay
    Max
    After 40 years of a dictatorship, it's no wonder the people of Egypt are celebrating their freedom so enthusiastically. Hopefully, the military,SCAF, will relinquish the control they are trying to impose, by dissolving the lower house parliament and decreeing an amendment to the Constitution. I would be surprised to see them give up so easily.

    The new president, Morsi, of the Muslim brotherhood, is backed by the US and one of the geopolitical analyst I follow on Twitter claims he is a CIA plant. He wasn't the original candidate of the Muslim brotherhood as I understand it, but it'll be interesting to see how long he stays.
  • VICTORIA Max 2012/06/24 18:19:49
    VICTORIA
    +4
    SCAF has ALREADY dissolved the Parliament. How do you interpret that as relinquishing control?

    The Constitution has to be written- the new one.
    Not Mubarak's. Why would anyone amend that?

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news...

    Do you have anything more than what a random person on twitter says?
  • Max VICTORIA 2012/06/24 21:11:38
    Max
    The court of Egypt dissolved the democratically elected and Islamists led Parliament. And, as I remember, SCAF, amended the Constitution that was written by the parliament, weakening the position of anybody named as president and leaving them with the power they have always had. I may not be explaining what I remember correctly, but as I see it, the military will not easily relinquish control because of a new president. Overall, I think the military and the new president will do the bidding of the US because of the billions of dollars provided to them.
  • VICTORIA Max 2012/06/24 21:45:36
    VICTORIA
    +2
    Well, can you characterize that without the slurs?
    MB held a majority in Parliament- and SCAF dissolved it last week-

    I'm not sure how you keep interpreting this as relinquishing control.

    Mubarak's Constitution is on it's way out- it's been being debated for some time now-
    so amending it to try to de-fang the authority of a new President- is- pointless- and again- NOT relinquishing control- but trying to hang onto power.

    The military has already been doing the US bidding for decades-
    that was never in question.

    I think you make a grave error in imagining that Morsi and SCAF are equivalent in obedience and influence by the US though.

    He's dealing directly with the IMF now. It's no surprise. Did you not even read his acceptance speech?
  • Max VICTORIA 2012/06/24 22:11:03
    Max
    +1
    Everything you have laid out is what I'm poorly trying to point out as my recollection in reading about Egypt in the last week or so.

    The part about the Constitution amendment(Not the original Constitution): here's an excerpt and a link from June 17th:

    CAIRO — Egypt’s military leaders issued a constitutional decree Sunday that gave the armed forces sweeping powers and degraded the presidency to a subservient role, as the Muslim Brotherhood declared that its candidate had won the country’s presidential runoff election.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com...

    From a June 19 article, that points out the president will be virtually powerless:

    "What did they do? The Supreme Council for the Armed Forces (SCAF), the junta led by Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, decreed that the military should govern its own affairs and effectively gave itself a veto over new legislation and the writing of a new constitution."

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Worl...

    Here's a blogger you may enjoy named Egyptian Chronicles:

    http://egyptianchronicles.blo...

    Here's a CNN article from today talking about the US educated president:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/0...

    I didn't realize I had posted a slur and if I did I am sorry. If you would kindly point it out, I would know in the future that that was a slur and I would never use it a...





    Everything you have laid out is what I'm poorly trying to point out as my recollection in reading about Egypt in the last week or so.

    The part about the Constitution amendment(Not the original Constitution): here's an excerpt and a link from June 17th:

    CAIRO — Egypt’s military leaders issued a constitutional decree Sunday that gave the armed forces sweeping powers and degraded the presidency to a subservient role, as the Muslim Brotherhood declared that its candidate had won the country’s presidential runoff election.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com...

    From a June 19 article, that points out the president will be virtually powerless:

    "What did they do? The Supreme Council for the Armed Forces (SCAF), the junta led by Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, decreed that the military should govern its own affairs and effectively gave itself a veto over new legislation and the writing of a new constitution."

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Worl...

    Here's a blogger you may enjoy named Egyptian Chronicles:

    http://egyptianchronicles.blo...

    Here's a CNN article from today talking about the US educated president:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/0...

    I didn't realize I had posted a slur and if I did I am sorry. If you would kindly point it out, I would know in the future that that was a slur and I would never use it again.

    No, I didn't read his acceptance speech.

    I wanted to follow you on twitter because I could see by your comment, on the post that I couldn't comment, that you were very knowledgeable on this subject of Egypt and I happen to be interested in that.

    Thanks for replying.
    (more)
  • VICTORIA Max 2012/06/24 22:28:43
    VICTORIA
    +1
    I scanned and read most of what you linked. Thank you for all of the trouble you went to. It's appreciated.

    Yes, the term "islamist" is a relatively new and invented journalistic term-

    Here is one of my favorite ME analysts to follow-
    https://twitter.com/#!/monael...

    If you look at the questions I've asked here on my profile- you'll see several interesting posts on this topic. :)
  • Max VICTORIA 2012/06/24 22:40:52
    Max
    +1
    I see the word you're referring to now and it wasn't in my vocabulary until recently, reading about the Middle East.

    Thanks for the link to Mona. I'm now following her and the C-SPAN twitter feed.

    Here's a last link and excerpt that paints a dim picture of Egypt's future:

    The the US-Israel controlled Egyptian military junta chose Mohamed Morsi as the one Muslim Brotherhood official who could run in the election, against an open Mubarakite, so he is undoubtedly owned lock, stock, and barrel. In a non-foreign policy area where he might have some say, Morsi is an economic statist of the worst sort. So the oppressed Egyptians can look forward to Mubarakism minus Mubarak.


    http://www.lewrockwell.com/bl...
  • VICTORIA Max 2012/06/25 00:43:36
    VICTORIA
    +2
    Then maybe you could try reading about the ME from the perspective of people who live there, and know it intimately.
    One sentence from an unknown person doesn't really constitute anything- it honestly sounds like a conspiracy theory someone is making up as they go along to fit in with some wider conspiracy world they've created.

    So, I guess one red flag as to the intent or neutrality as well as knowledge of a source you are reading on the topic would be their use of the word 'islamist'.

    A good example would be the article from CNN. There was so much that is just patently false in it- that I didn't even bother to rebut it.

    Al Jazeera- is a great source.
  • VICTORIA Max 2012/06/24 18:22:07
    VICTORIA
    +2
    You know that the amendment to the Constitution by SCAF was designed to DIMINISH the power of the President- not relinquish their control, but strengthen it.
  • Sir Bud. 2012/06/24 17:37:14
    The first civilian elected leader of Egypt. Yay
    Sir Bud.
    +2
    Thank goodness Ahmed Shafiq didn't win!.
  • VICTORIA Sir Bud. 2012/06/24 18:05:17
    VICTORIA
    +2
    Hi Sir Bud- that seems to be the general consensus.
    Shafiq hysteria supporters after the victory of Mercy

    Egyptian Tea Partyers-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch...
  • VICTORIA 2012/06/24 17:07:13
    The first civilian elected leader of Egypt. Yay
    VICTORIA

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