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Free College for Everyone?

Foxhound BN0 2011/07/26 16:57:21
I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
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Working and going to school full time is exhausting, and stretching two full time years into 5 part time ones is putting young working adults way back behind their peers in the job market.

Free online automated college courses could replace spending billions on buildings.

It's not Harvard, but it would work, and students could work on their studies any time, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Students win, America wins, taxpayers save a ton of money, technology takes another giant leap forward as a new multitude of well educated youngsters take on the technological challenges of tomorrow.

I think the government should spend less on buildings, and more on schools. (online) If we do this, maybe we'll get those flying cars we've waited so long for!

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Off topic:
I had to post this pic. Note that he has a wireless remote, but there's a cable from the flying robotic camera to the flying TV. lol
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  • connie (in name only) BN-0 2011/07/26 20:59:40
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    connie (in name only) BN-0
    +6
    My 26 YO son spent 6 years earning two degrees, worked as much as possible, drove 45 miles one way for over 2 years and 12 miles the other way, lived at home, and still has $15,000 in student loans (which I guess, isn't bad). Of course, he can't find a job in his field(s); but is still trying. My 23 YO son went to school for over one year, quit, and has been paying on his student loans. Now he thinks he knows what he wants to study, wants to go back, and thinks he can work fulltime to try to pay for his education and all the other bills he has accumulated. And who knows if he will be able to find a job in his field after he has even more educational loans to pay. There is No Way that we can afford to pay for their college educations; so yes, I wish more was available online and at free or reduced rates. And yes also, I would like it if the public schools would spend less money on buildings too. They could afford to do more to educate with a few less dollars spent on athletic facilities and extravagant buildings.

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  • Dolly 2011/11/04 21:07:05
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    Dolly
    I think free education is a great way to get people out of their houses and meeting folks in person instead of depending solely on computers for education and meeting people.
  • tom C 2011/09/06 16:21:16 (edited)
    I disagree.
    tom  C
    +1
    where does the money come from to run these online schools?? who pays for the "free college"....nothing is free.....taxpayers would pay...
    can we afford it right now?
  • Foxhoun... tom C 2011/10/14 04:22:33
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    From not spending it on brick schools, we do as always, yes.
  • Darnel 2011/08/22 22:15:19
    I disagree.
    Darnel
    Only because you have to take the reins out of the hands who have made education a business. When BOOKS cost more than teachers salaries per year SOMETHING IS WRONG with the system.
  • Devonly 2011/08/22 21:02:25
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    Devonly
    +1
    I would support higher taxes if it meant reasonable, lower, or free higher education for our youth.
  • Morgan Orlins 2011/08/20 19:40:07
    I disagree.
    Morgan Orlins
    There's NO such thing as "free" anything. When you say that you want something for "free", all you're saying is that you want someone else to pay for it.

    That's immoral.
  • Foxhoun... Morgan ... 2011/08/21 19:57:15
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    Yes, mr webster we get it. How do you feel about taxpayer funded public schools providing college level education as an investment in our country, using computers to reduce costs to current levels or less?
  • Morgan ... Foxhoun... 2011/08/28 19:03:14
    Morgan Orlins
    It's working BEAUTIFULLY for America, isn't it? (intense sarcasm)

    Throwing MORE money after an ever-worsening problem doesn't seem to work too well, does it?
  • Foxhoun... Morgan ... 2011/08/29 15:52:35
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    If it were not for public education, half of our people would be illiterate. When I was a kid a lot of adults still could not read and write. Nagging about the system is not helping. Things are better than they used to be, not worse.
  • Morgan ... Foxhoun... 2011/08/29 19:09:51
    Morgan Orlins
    The undeniable truth is that the GOVERNMENT education system is far worse than it was just 40 years ago. The teachers' unions are the biggest single culprit with their crazy leftists politics and their protection of bad treachers, but it's also the fault of the parents.

    Pouring money on inefficient government bureaucracies is a proven failure--EVERY time, no exceptions. Eliminate the teachers unions, eliminate the leftist politically correct indoctrination CRAP, fire bad teachers, pay good teachers more, and start by handing parents vouchers.

    The quality of education will go up immediately.
  • Foxhoun... Morgan ... 2011/08/30 02:32:45
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    But what do you have against giving people a good education cheaply using the internet? I have used computer courses and they work really well. One program can teach millions of people for the price of one teacher. We can boost our national IQ and put America further ahead in the world. And if we choose to share these courses with the whole world, we can bring the far corners of the Earth out of their dark ages. Intelligent and connected people are more peaceful and productive than ignorant segregated people. Right now wikipedia brings a world of information to anyone with internet. I am betting that alone will cause an explosion of new technology within 30 years, as billions of people all over the world have been given access to information they could not get before.
  • Jamacc 2011/08/20 06:53:02
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    Jamacc
    +1
    any advancement in technology that can be implemented will enable more students to gain an education with financial independence and increase the knowledge and productivity of our workforce. it is an investment in our future as a nation and guarantees a place in the increasingly more global marketplace.
  • Foxhoun... Jamacc 2011/08/20 16:09:27
  • Ritz 2011/08/17 18:14:09
    I disagree.
    Ritz
    +1
    Basic education should always be free. But you need to build certain infrastructure in order to impart quality education at higher levels. Of course i say no to higher fees. I believe some steps should be taken in order to lower and not completely strike out higher education costs, without compromising on good quality education.
  • Aes Sedai 2011/08/05 00:56:09
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    Aes Sedai
    +2
    In Canada, college is no where near as expensive as it is here in the U.S.
  • Sir Bud 2011/07/28 19:54:00
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    Sir Bud
    +5
    The same quality of education should be available to everyone regardless of the quality of their parents purse.
  • coolrayfruge 2011/07/28 05:59:03
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    coolrayfruge
    +3
    There is no reason education couldn't be free for everyone.
    With Internet,satellite and Cable TV ,Library's.
    I still like workshop class rooms though , cause you get to interact with other people in person.
  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ 2011/07/28 04:00:56
    I disagree.
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    +3
    My college years were greatly enriched by campus life, even as a commuter student. Time talking with other students, with teachers, grad students; participating in cultural events; attending lectures by visiting professors.

    Sorry - no online course can compare.
  • Conpsiracy 2011/07/28 03:21:20
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    Conpsiracy
    +1
    its actually a VERY good idea (besides our growing independence on the internet), one that should have been implemented a while ago. the average American is far behind the other industrial countries in terms of education and we really need to get up there....

    And about those flying cars.... im only a few tests and materials away from making a breakthrough, though you might have to call them gliding cars. 8D
  • Foxhoun... Conpsiracy 2011/07/28 03:54:22
    Foxhound BN0
    +3
    Me too. Here is my latest test. Still working on the landings.
    latest test working landings car going over cliff
  • ElisaGalvan 2011/07/27 19:38:03
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    ElisaGalvan
    +4
    education is more important and without it this whole country would be plain dumb and stupid...
  • tea for you 2011/07/27 12:36:02
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    tea for you
    +4
    a educated community is a free community a uneducated community is a slave community. Since Liberals are the educaters the Facist attack the educated community
  • Ego Death 2011/07/27 04:44:35
    I disagree.
    Ego Death
    +1
    I think heavily subsided courses with deferred student debt works well.

    In Australia we used to have free tertiary education but it just cost way too much money.

    Now an undergraduate degree costs around $15k and it payed of incrementally depending on your income.
  • aneed2know Ego Death 2011/07/27 08:33:36
    aneed2know
    +5
    no offense but i would love to have come out of college with a undergraduate degree only owing 15k, as it stands now i owe about 35k for an Ass.
  • Ego Death aneed2know 2011/07/27 11:06:12
    Ego Death
    +1
    It is a pity isn't it! Do cost of degrees in the US vary upon which college you attend or are the prices regulated by the government?
  • aneed2know Ego Death 2011/07/27 11:15:26
    aneed2know
    +3
    no colleges are allowed to set their own prices, the government does not regulate prices . Some colleges can run the price of a small cottage on the beach and thats per year.
  • Dana Ego Death 2011/08/05 06:13:41
    Dana
    +2
    My Aunts son was accepted to a very prestigious college, but all it offered was a 4 year degree... it was not even a graduate school!! Tuition was $50,000 a year!!! For a Bachelors degree? That is $200,000 before he even goes to graduate school. They had saved since before their son was even born so he could go to the best and be the best. But they lost nearly everything in the stock market and simply could not afford for him to go. And yes, they still vote GOP, faithfully and blindly.
  • twocrows 2011/07/27 02:31:37
    I agree. The government should spend less on buildings, and more on education.
    twocrows
    +2
    I wish there had been a third option.
    if this approach were adopted then, yes, costs to students could drop dramatically and teachers might even be paid more because building construction and maintenance costs would become much less. that would be a Good Thing. but there are lots of caveats that would have to be overcome before it would be workable.

    At the moment, there are hundreds or thousands of online "universities" which are scams. they take the money of kids who hope to make their lives better -- and give them nothing in return. they're not accredited and any degree earned through them is worthless.

    this proposal sounds like a good idea IF the government will see to it that the scams are stopped. will that happen? I'm not holding my breath.
    if the scams aren't eradicated first, how does a prospective student know s/he is signing up to an accredited school?
  • Foxhoun... twocrows 2011/07/27 12:24:43
    Foxhound BN0
    +2
    By looking up a list of accredited schools?
  • twocrows Foxhoun... 2011/07/28 03:35:00
    twocrows
    +1
    these days, with teens who grew up in the computer age, yeah - they probably could.
    in my day, we weren't so savvy -- even if we'd had computers. which we didn't.

    I guess I was thinking of the time when I went to school rather than today's kids. my bad.
  • Foxhoun... twocrows 2011/07/28 03:59:06
    Foxhound BN0
    +3
    It must be awesome being a kid growing up wearing Google goggles. When we were kids we had to go to a library, choose from only published material, if it wasn't checked out, etc. It was tedious and time consuming not to mention hard on your back. I can find things now in seconds, that used to take weeks.
  • DJL 2011/07/27 00:26:45
    I disagree.
    DJL
    +1
    There is no such thing as free college. Anyone that is not paying for their classes is forcing someone else to pay.
  • Dawn DJL 2011/07/27 13:34:35
    Dawn
    +2
    like k-12?
  • DJL Dawn 2011/07/28 03:29:14
    DJL
    K-12 is subsidized by people without children but that doesn't mean that the same should be done for college.
  • Dawn DJL 2011/07/28 12:00:00
    Dawn
    +2
    maybe but that's a different argument then the one you've phrased above.
  • DJL Dawn 2011/07/28 20:20:28
    DJL
    No it isn't. People want free college but there is no such thing. Tax money would have to pay for peoples free college.
  • Cliff 2011/07/26 23:09:57
    I disagree.
    Cliff
    +2
    I think it would be better to have free beer and pizza for everyone.
  • Foxhoun... Cliff 2011/07/27 00:15:35
    Foxhound BN0
    +3
    right after they graduate.
  • Cliff Foxhoun... 2011/07/27 01:24:51
    Cliff
    +2
    The way things are going they'll need it with no jobs.
  • Foxhoun... Cliff 2011/07/27 12:25:32
    Foxhound BN0
    +2
    Oh well, they will be smarter and broke. Beats being dumb and broke. lol

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