Fracking: The Gift That Keeps Giving

by doofiegirl POTL~PWCM~JLA Posted 2012/05/03 12:29:00

Related Topics: Gas, Oil, United States, Fracking, natural gas, Crude Oil, Export, US, 2020, Whatever, Government, Independence, Job

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.. I don't really understand the fracking methods , but whatever it is, it seems to be working! A Heck of a lot better than Odimwit's 'Green Jobs' , any how! Not only has fracking revolutionized natural gas production so that we now have enough natural gas to last 100 years, fracking has also allowed production of crude oil from shale, thereby potentially transforming the United States from being an importer of oil to one that’s self sufficient in oil sometime in the 2020s.
In addition, fracking also spins off additional liquids from the production of natural gas.
Natural gas liquids (NGLs) are the icing on the cake from fracking. In addition, we can export refined petroleum products that can create additional jobs. We may even be in a position to export crude oil if the government allows it.
Perhaps, fracking’s greatest gift has been to make us aware that it’s possible to achieve energy independence.

Mr. T 2012/05/03 12:47:20

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The only "Green Job" Obama really wants is for the money printing presses to never stop. And then send it overseas to stash for when we kick his sorry ass out of office.
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Old Salt 2012/05/04 22:10:08

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Prior to the technologies that are available now, Natural Gas was at an all-time high of $14PMBTU's. In SPITE of obama's desire to thwarrt drilling, the INDIVIDUAL ENTRAPANUAL spirit of America started to work as PRIVATE property allowed new wells to be explored and drilled!

THUS... just four years later, the price of Natural Gas closed last at LESS THAN $2 per million units!

Hmmmmmmmm! Mr. President, what did you say about finding new supplies would not lower the cost???

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keeper 2012/05/04 20:01:54

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Good post, Doofie... "Fracking" has been proven to be environmentally safe. As you point out, there are major benefits with doing this.

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Wolfman 2012/05/03 15:45:42

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It is a stupendous technology that allows us to tap into unused energy.

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4570GOVT 2012/05/03 13:40:11 (edited)

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" WE " are the Saudi Arabia of Natural Gas with enough to last for CENTURIES ! Between that and our Vast Oil Reserves ( Not being Used ) , we " COULD BE " Energy Independant !

This " Sadly " is not the case because for the last couple of dacades , we are FORBIDDEN to use our own Oil and told by our leaders that we must buy our Oil from people who want to kill us ............. Go Figure !

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CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/05/03 13:35:03 (edited)

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Watch this video, then you decide

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4570GOVT to CUDDLY ... 2012/05/03 13:41:36

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FANTASTIC ! ~~~~~~~~~~~ I suggest that EVERYONE watch this !

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NOBAMA 2012 ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Bett17 2012/05/03 13:30:58

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NO, fracking is dangerous. You'll be tainting food, water, the animals, the enviroment and put people's heath at risks.

We should carry on with digging for fossil fuels unil we find a much better, efficient, and safer way to get resources. We've done enough damage as it is.

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doofieg... to Bett17 2012/05/03 16:01:11

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Sources, please.

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Bett17 to doofieg... 2012/05/03 20:02:37

What's wrong with researching yourself? Look on both sides and see what you can find, that's what I like doing (when I'm bothered).

*before this goes anyfurther...yes....I am too lazy to actually gather links, call me lazy as much as you want, it's the truth.*

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doofieg... to Bett17 2012/05/03 20:59:01 (edited)

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Then, don't you think you ought not to reply to something you Obvioiusly know Nothing about? I Do research myself, dear. That's why I have links at hand when needed

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Bett17 to doofieg... 2012/05/03 21:31:51

I did, perhaps I've read wrong and unreliable information? When I think about it, most to almost whatever we do is either dangerous and or bad for the enviroment.

Looking around, I've noticed fracking is not exactly safe, before we use this method we need to make sure it wont cause anybody/thing problems! Infact some areas HAVE contaminate drinking water, and made people feel unwell. And no, I don't know "nothing" about this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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Striker to Bett17 2012/05/04 23:37:01

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Interesting video, but useless as a source, sorry

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doofieg... to Striker 2012/05/05 01:35:27

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I was just going to say that! LOL

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Bett17 to doofieg... 2012/05/05 08:19:15

You didn't need to hesitate, Doffiegirl. :P

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doofieg... to Bett17 2012/05/05 09:31:58

I have more to do than keep track of you dear. I just got back to the article. Believe me, if Striker hadn't said it first, I would have made the comment

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Bett17 to doofieg... 2012/05/05 17:26:34

Fair enough, take care then I guess.

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Bett17 to Striker 2012/05/05 08:18:14

Thank you for your honesty. :)

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MadAsHEck to Bett17 2012/05/03 17:14:59

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Fracking has been done for well over 50 years, and is not the problem many think it is. There have of course been some accidents, but not anywhere near enough to stop using it.

Again the sheep being led to the slaughter by the media.

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Bett17 to MadAsHEck 2012/05/03 20:03:34

So are you saying it has no effect on the enviroment?

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MadAsHEck to Bett17 2012/05/04 04:25:08

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Decades of doing it have not been proven to have an effect. There have been isolated accidents, but overall it has a good track record.

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Bett17 to MadAsHEck 2012/05/04 15:39:40 (edited)

People who have been living near Fracking wells have had all sorts of complaints. People have undrinkable and famable water, and are exposed to chemicals making them sickly, their pets/livestock are dropping dead. Everything we do leaves damage, nothing is perfect, this is what Fracking does!

I think the Fracking method needs improvements to make it safer for all. And we can all head towards the future.

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MadAsHEck to Bett17 2012/05/04 16:57:46

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You do have links to those statements do you not.

As I said before in the past ther have been problems, but not to the extent that the media would like you to believe. In addition they are using new methods, that are totally envornmental friendly. You are falling for ther Media Hype. My Son lives in Oklahoma, and says it's a lot of hooey, we need the jobs.

"The Wall Street Journal laid many out clearly and forcefully in a June 2011 editorial, “The facts about fracking: The real risks of the shale gas revolution and how to manage them.” Whether it’s cancer, drinking water contamination, toxic or radioactive chemicals, earthquakes or regulations – the truth is miles from the misrepresentations, hysteria and fear-mongering propagated by Food & Water Watch and similar groups. "

http://online.wsj.com/article...

"Different subsurface rock formations and conditions require different formulations for the 0.5% of the HF fluids that involves special chemicals. In the past, diesel oil and various industrial chemicals were used. Today, to an ever-increasing degree, the chemicals are borrowed from the food and cosmetics industry. The technical names sound daunting or even scary (inorganic acids, polysaccharide polymers and sulfonated alcohol, for instance), but these CleanStream chemic...

You do have links to those statements do you not.

As I said before in the past ther have been problems, but not to the extent that the media would like you to believe. In addition they are using new methods, that are totally envornmental friendly. You are falling for ther Media Hype. My Son lives in Oklahoma, and says it's a lot of hooey, we need the jobs.

"The Wall Street Journal laid many out clearly and forcefully in a June 2011 editorial, “The facts about fracking: The real risks of the shale gas revolution and how to manage them.” Whether it’s cancer, drinking water contamination, toxic or radioactive chemicals, earthquakes or regulations – the truth is miles from the misrepresentations, hysteria and fear-mongering propagated by Food & Water Watch and similar groups. "

http://online.wsj.com/article...

"Different subsurface rock formations and conditions require different formulations for the 0.5% of the HF fluids that involves special chemicals. In the past, diesel oil and various industrial chemicals were used. Today, to an ever-increasing degree, the chemicals are borrowed from the food and cosmetics industry. The technical names sound daunting or even scary (inorganic acids, polysaccharide polymers and sulfonated alcohol, for instance), but these CleanStream chemicals (Halliburton’s terminology) are found in cheese and beer, canned fish and dairy desserts, and marshmallows and shampoo, respectively."

http://townhall.com/columnist...
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doofieg... to Bett17 2012/05/04 08:10:47 (edited)

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Everything man does has some effect on the environment! The very act of breathing does ! Commonsense ( there Is such a thing!) and good planning are needed in Anything does. Too bad it's not usually applied by people with Liberal ideas! Now, don';t come up with 'they thought of this, or they did that' That is probably true-------------but it was at the expense of the taxpayer and for gain (AlBore) rather than for the good of the planet!

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Bett17 to doofieg... 2012/05/04 15:15:39

Unfortunately that's true, no matter what we do something is damaged. Hopefully we'll come to a greater solution in the future.

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Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA 2012/05/03 13:05:28

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It is a great way to get away from the bad people who have the oil now..

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CUDDLY ... to Mel the... 2012/05/03 13:34:09

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Allegedly. I've read wherein the North American continent has enough oil to last another 200 years plus.This information has been squashed to the point that people who don't know that fact, won't courtesy of the liberal progressive communist agenda.

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4570GOVT to CUDDLY ... 2012/05/03 13:42:31

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YOU WOULD BE CORRECT , SIR !

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MadAsHEck to CUDDLY ... 2012/05/04 16:59:44

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We are one of the few countries in the world that have all these natural resources, and will not use them to benefit our own citizens.

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John James 2012/05/03 12:54:27

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Let the business alone, and it will be productive and create jobs. The second you allow the left to regulate it, well kiss the jobs goodbye. The left does not want energy independence, and they do not want jobs

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Mr. T 2012/05/03 12:47:20

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The only "Green Job" Obama really wants is for the money printing presses to never stop. And then send it overseas to stash for when we kick his sorry ass out of office.

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4570GOVT to Mr. T 2012/05/03 13:43:04

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AMEN !

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LadyBGood to Mr. T 2012/05/04 19:55:18

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Isn't that what all dictators do?

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Mr. T to LadyBGood 2012/05/04 20:43:30

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Yes...it is.

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stevmackey 2012/05/03 12:45:09

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Obama did not allow this. Here we go again. A private company finds and does something different on their land, and he takes the credit. He has done more to stop the production of oil in this country than any other president.

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4570GOVT to stevmackey 2012/05/03 13:46:34

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You Are Correct , Sir ! He is like some little bitch that tries to steal Everyone Elses Thunder while doing NOTHING himself ( exept trying to stop success ,,,,, and when he can't stop it and it does well , He Tries To Claim It As his Own ! )

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MadAsHEck to stevmackey 2012/05/03 17:16:24

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Fracking has been used for decades, it is not a new technology. But a very improved and saafer one now.

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Character 2012/05/03 12:44:58

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Until somebody creates an energy source cheaper to use than fossil fuels, we should keep using fossil fuels. I hear hydrogen from water is cheap, but I haven't seen it used much yet.

I will state that we should convert automobiles to use natural gas in the U.S. as it is used in many places worldwide.

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4570GOVT to Character 2012/05/03 13:48:26

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HYDROGEN ( from water ) " should be " the future .............. ZERO POLUTION and it comes from water , H2O .

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MadAsHEck to 4570GOVT 2012/05/03 17:19:46

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http://automobiles.honda.com/...

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MadAsHEck to 4570GOVT 2012/05/03 19:07:40

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Before it can be used in an engine, it is converted into a gas, then compressed. So it's not as simple as just using water in your tank. Requires Electricity to do the Electrolitic conversion.

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