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Four Pinocchios for Harry Reid’s claim about Mitt Romney’s taxes

doofiegirl POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/07 17:04:53
Reid has generated a lot of controversy with his claim that presumptive GOP nominee did not pay any taxes for 10 years. He originally told the Huffington Post that a person who had invested with Bain Capital had called his office and told him this. Then, he told reporters in Nevada that “I have had a number of people tell me that.”

Reid has refused to identify his source (or sources). Romney and his campaign aides have emphatically denied the charge but Reid has stood firm. “I don’t think the burden should be on me,” he said. “The burden should be on him. He’s the one I’ve alleged has not paid any taxes.”

This whole exchange poses a fact-checking conundrum. Generally, we maintain that the person or the campaign making the charge must back it up. Reid has refused to provide any evidence, except for the (unproven) fact that someone called him up and told him something that may be true — or simply a rumor.

The Pinocchio Test

We use a reasonable person standard here. Without seeing Romney’s taxes, we cannot definitively prove Reid incorrect. But tax experts say his claim is highly improbable. Reid also has made no effort to explain why his unnamed source would be credible. So, in the absence of more information, it appears he has no basis to make his incendiary claim.

Moreover, Reid holds a position of great authority in the U.S. Congress. He should hold himself to a high standard of accuracy when making claims about political opponents.

Four Pinocchios Continue Reading on www.washingtonpost.com ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/four-pi... But Romney’s 2010 return and his estimated 2011 return do show that he paid substantial taxes in those years. In 2010, he earned nearly $22 million, including $3 million in taxable interest, nearly $5 million in dividends and more than $12 million in capital gains. He reduced his taxes by giving $3 million in charitable contributions (much of it in appreciated stock, which shielded him from paying additional capital gains.)
In other words, this tax return shows a portfolio that is not structured to yield zero taxes. We spoke to a number of tax experts, all of whom said that, given Romney’s current portfolio, it was highly improbable for Romney to have had 10 years with tax-free returns — though there could have been one or two years with little or no taxes. Again, Four Pinocchios for a feckless unsubstantiated lie from a man who Should know better!

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  • Seonag 2012/08/13 19:57:28
    Seonag
    +1
    Good grief! Didn't Harry's mother teach him not to carry tales unless you can substantiate it! Harry is old enough to have actually been taught that! He should know better!
  • davyd god loving patriot 2012/08/13 18:55:36
    davyd god loving patriot
    +1
    typical lying liberals, one lies and they all swear to it, can't trust any of them
  • Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/08/13 18:53:18
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +1
    This all brings to my mind Reids attempt a few years back to discredit Rush Limbaugh over the famed "Phoney Soldiers" comment Rush made on the air. reid tried a media blits against the talk show host, and delivered a letter, written on Senate stationary and signed by every Democrat Senator, to the president of the Company then handleing most of the radio station network the Limbaugh owned EIB net work was broadcast on.

    Not believing for a moment that either Reid or any staff member listens to Rush Limbaughs broadcast, I must conclude that Reid was acting on advice from an unknown source which was never revealed, and that Harry Reid, D NV, Senate Majority Leader, has a bad habbit of picking fights and making public statements based on unrevealable sources.
  • Aurora 2012/08/13 18:43:13
    Aurora
    +1
    We almost forgot that story thanks for the reminder.
  • John Walker II 2012/08/08 09:57:20
    John Walker II
    The problem is, you can still file and owe, but for a grand majority of the time, unless you go to a tax preparer who may force you to, you DON'T have to pay what you owe at the time you file.
  • doofieg... John Wa... 2012/08/13 19:04:47
    doofiegirl  POTL~PWCM~JLA
    For ten years? Please! My sides hurt from laughing already today!
  • John Wa... doofieg... 2012/08/13 19:05:15
    John Walker II
    Wouldn't be a first.
  • RJeffreySavlov 2012/08/08 01:18:08
    RJeffreySavlov
    +2
    Harry Reid's comments do not surprise me in the least. He has made the same claims when running for senate in the 1970's. He is a compulsive liar and one of the dirtiest politicians that Nevada has ever produced. He should be censured by the senate and removed from his seat and position. He is an obstructionist and has prevented anything from getting don during the past two years and should be held personally responsible for the failures in this past session and the disgusting condition of our economy.
  • The Gipper~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/07 18:52:43
    The Gipper~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    Reid really needs to be put somewhere that he is not a danger to himself or others!
  • Matt 2012/08/07 18:30:28
  • doc moto 2012/08/07 18:21:28
    doc moto
    +3
    This guys is a hooligan that never grew out of that mode!
  • Greg 2012/08/07 18:08:53 (edited)
    Greg
    +4
    The slime from the democrats is overflowing into the gutter...This is the only chance Obama has of getting re-elected...Make up false crap about Romney, really, why doesn't Obama run on his record, oh yea, his accomplishments are only a mirage...



    Do our country a favor and quit running for President...loooser!!!
  • BrianD3 2012/08/07 18:08:16
    BrianD3
    +3
    I also hear that Harry's residence while in Washington is at the Ritz Carlton. My unnamed sources tell me the mob is bankrolling that bill.
  • BrianD3 2012/08/07 18:07:15
    BrianD3
    +6
    I heard from an unnamed source that Harry beats his boyfreind when he gets drunk
  • Dale 2012/08/07 17:42:29
    Dale
    +3
    Until there are leaks from IRS, I am going with Mitt Romney on this one. Ol' Harry has not shown much cred here, not much at all.
  • none 2012/08/07 17:39:36
    none
    +5
    I heard from an unnamed source that Reid was a pedophile. Prove to me that you're not one Harry.
  • Ol'Dave 2012/08/07 17:30:27
    Ol'Dave
    +5
    We need ANOTHER SCALE!!!!! Since the tin man, in Wizard of Oz, had NO BRAIN. How does 4 Tin Men sound?
  • BrianD3 2012/08/07 17:24:19
    BrianD3
    +4
    I have heard from several unamed (but reliable) sources that Harry Reid likes to hang out at rest stops and troll for lonely truckers.......
  • BrianD3 2012/08/07 17:23:02
    BrianD3
    +5
    “I don’t think the burden should be on me,” he said well, if he is making the accusation........YES it should be on him.

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