Forest Service Violated Civil Rights for Calling Border Patrol: Agree?

by Fef Posted 2012/06/05 18:46:33

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	Yes, Calling Border Patrol is Racist	7 votes	11%
	No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal	57 votes	89%

America has gone a bit crazy... no longer can one federal agency call another federal agency for help in translating during a traffic stop.
The U.S. Forest Service's use of Border Patrol agents as language interpreters and for law enforcement in stops involving Latinos on Washington state's Olympic Peninsula is discriminatory, the U.S. Department of Agriculture says.
The ACLU and Northwest Immigrant Rights Project sued to prevent the Border Patrol from making traffic stops.KTUL-TV is the ABC affiliate in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We provide the best coverage of breaking news, severe weather and sports in northeastern Oklahoma.

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Cuppajo 2012/06/05 18:51:33

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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P. Sturm 2012/07/01 12:07:04

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

So who are! they suppossed to call for tranlations, the RCMP.

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Charles E 2012/06/13 01:50:26

Yes, Calling Border Patrol is Racist

Clicked NO!

If you stop people who don't speak English you get help.
If they are speaking Spanish a logical source for that help would be the border patrol.

If they are criminals turn them over to the appropriate authorities immediatel.
And illegal aliens are criminals.

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Iamfree 2012/06/10 05:40:36

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Hey Latinos, don't want to be in contact with the Border Patrol during a Forest Service stop? Here's a tip...LEARN ENGLISH! Yeeeesh.

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gidianedwards97 2012/06/07 05:25:27

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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what is next Oh I get it lets change america to mexica thats is what we fought for in the first place remember the alamo

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sherdon2 2012/06/06 16:22:58

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Aren't they a unit of the govt. and under the same laws? Right choice..

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Swampdog 2012/06/06 14:26:41

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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No habla ingles? Que lastima! No tiene una verde carta? Please leave America until you can legally enter and stay, learning English may be optional but it will only hurt your employment prospects. Adios.

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Eddie 2012/06/06 11:17:12

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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This is just plain stupid. Why do we even have these agencies if they aren't gonna use them?

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cddjmikey 2012/06/06 08:35:30

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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If the person that is stopped does not speak english and the closest certified interpreters are from Border Patrol then what should they do ? Would you want the police to hold them for possibly several hours until some other certified interpreter can get there ? I am quite sure you wouldn't here any complaining about people being held for hours waiting for an interpreter. YEAH RIGHT !

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redhorse29 2012/06/06 06:31:53

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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It has been a long time since the ACLU has done anything for this nation. They are an avowed wealthy liberal progressive socialist organization that open works to subvert the nation that enabled it to exist.

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Jim 2012/06/06 05:07:48

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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It is time for legal residents of the U.S.A. to take back our country. Start with the White House and then with congress.

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Marcus Clark 2012/06/06 02:45:22

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Of course it was proper to call the border patrol in this situation.
1)The forest Service agent did not speak Spanish.
2)The person stopped spoke Spanish but not English.
3)Border Patrol agents (who were nearby) speak both English and Spanish.
This was the obvious solution.

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Claybern 2012/06/06 01:45:46

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Another no brainer.

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overseanancy 2012/06/06 01:11:13

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Um... seriously? We are starting to see racists everywhere

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tff~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/06 00:45:51

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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If there not citizens they don't have civil rights.

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☆Warthog - PWCM - JLA☆ 2012/06/06 00:37:49

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Can the Police Department call the Fire Department if they see a fire?

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WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/06 00:16:31

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Eh, they needed help.

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Lily 2012/06/05 23:20:11

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Agencies need to work together regardless of the the agencys' title. If the USFS needs translators, there should be a pool from which they can draw from. Less likely people would feel profiled and targeted. However, last I checked...people living in the U.S. should know english. Would be rude to move to another country and not learn the native language.

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charles_1 2012/06/05 23:04:20

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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The border patrol has the translators. The forest service doesn't have a full time need for them. There's no problem sharing resources between government agencies to save money. The fact that illegal aliens run from the border patrol is just too bad. If you aren't a criminal you shouldn't have a need to run from someone who just came to translate your language. There's nothing racist about it.

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The Pro 2012/06/05 22:42:55

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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Unless there is an issue with your immigration status which just the sight of a US Customs and Border Protection officer would cause you to run like hell. It is then and only then, if they were called to that location, discrimination.

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dlsofsetx 2012/06/05 22:33:09

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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What is racist about this?

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jjl to dlsofsetx 2012/06/05 22:38:22

It's racist because if the person being interogated speaks another language for example japanese or chinese how would calling the Border patrol help the forest service translate, I'm pretty sure they don't have chinese or japanese translators. They only have spanish speaking translators so they are singling out hispanic and latino which is called racism.

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dlsofsetx to jjl 2012/06/05 22:39:31

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The Border Patrol is more likely to have people who speak foreign languages.

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cddjmikey to jjl 2012/06/06 08:43:46

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I am guessing that if somebody is detained by the authorities but nobody speaks the same language then the closest translator who works in another branch is called. Obviously they call the closest one first. Wouldn't want to detain somebody longer then needed. If the person is speaking Spanish and you are near the border then the Border Patrol will definately have you covered. They may even have a few other languages up their sleeve.

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cddjmikey to cddjmikey 2012/06/06 08:48:09

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I would also guess that if they had somebody that was Chinese or Japanese that they would STILL call the Border Patrol first for two reasons. First, they would know, if they didn't have one, where the closest translator was. Second, Hispanics are NOT the only ones sneaking in to our country ! They may make up the largest percentage of but they are not the only ones.

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Charles E to cddjmikey 2012/06/13 01:57:16

Excellen points.

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jjl to cddjmikey 2012/06/18 18:36:24

It's not the forest services's job to check the immigration status of a person, that's why we have separate departments. When do you see a dentist doing other things that are out of his area of expertise such as performing a heart transplant or something else.

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jjl to cddjmikey 2012/06/18 18:33:03

Why because the Border Control is getting paid to protect the borders not translate for the forest service department. The Border Patrol has translators there but they are not only translators they have other duties so they get paid more then just a person that translates. It all comes down to racial profiling, these forest rangers see a hispanic person and they call Border Control but if the Border Control was doing their job in the first place there would not be an illegal immigrants in the forest or anywhere else But maybe they are getting through because they are getting pulled to translate for the forest service and slacking off doing whatever they do over there at the border. Just sit on their asses all day and ride in their trucks and quads and have fun.

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Charles E to jjl 2012/06/13 01:56:21

If the person stoped spoke Japanese I doubt that ICE would have sent a Spanish translator. Your assumption is racist.

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jjl to Charles E 2012/06/18 18:24:22

why is my assumption racist. explain. I'm just saying if it was some other race besides hispanic or latino they wouldn't call Border Patrol. I think you are the racist.

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Solomonster 2012/06/05 22:15:10

Yes, Calling Border Patrol is Racist

So lets all get together & occupy the forest!

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jjl to Solomon... 2012/06/05 22:39:09

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I totally agree with you. we shouldn't have to be a certain color or race to enjoy being in the forest.

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Solomon... to jjl 2012/06/05 22:54:25

Right?!

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DuncanONeil 2012/06/05 21:42:07

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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I am beginning to think the country is being run by Europe or the UN.

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john Kills 2012/06/05 21:24:41

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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The ACLU isn't right very often and they're wrong here too.

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IronOx 2012/06/05 21:21:12

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

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the answer is No, if the agent was contacted purely to translate.

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jjl to IronOx 2012/06/05 22:41:31

What if they need to translate German how would the Border Patrol be of any use?

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Jim to jjl 2012/06/06 05:12:45

They weren't German, they were Latinos. Illegal immigration is one of the things ruining this country. It's time to put a stop to it.

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IronOx to jjl 2012/06/06 13:47:07

Last I checked German wasn't the common language spoken by people on our northern or southern borders.

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jjl to IronOx 2012/06/12 17:03:17

I know, i was just trying to make a point that if the forest service needs a translator for spanish they should hire one for their department instead of calling the border patrol which deviates them from their job which is guarding the border not the forest. Now if the people that are in the forest are illegal than ok I understand them calling the border control but just don't assume that every latino in the forest is illegal because they don't speak perfect english or just because they look hispanic, that is just racist.

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Michaelene 2012/06/05 21:04:18

No, Calling Border Patrol is Normal

I believe providing an interpreter is upholding a person's civil rights.

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