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FOREFATHERS DEDICATED AMERICA TO SATAN FROM 1791 TO THE LATE 1890'S!

underdawg 2011/12/02 09:27:36

OUR ORIGINAL AMERICAN MASONIC FOREFATHERS
CONTINUALLY DEDICATED AMERICA TO SATAN FROM
1791 TO THE LATE 1890'S!

Part 1



Subtitle: In a book released in 1999, written by a noted Astrologer
and heartily endorsed by the 33 Degree Supreme Commander of The Supreme
Council, Southern Jurisdiction, we read that the entire nation and its key
government buildings were dedicated to the Dog Star Sirius, which in
occult lore is Satan.


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THE CUTTING EDGE


Noted Astrologer David Ovason published a book in 1999
entitled The Secret Architecture of our Nation's Capitol:
The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C.
, in which he
uncovered the historic fact that the Masonic Fraternity dedicated the
young United States of America to the stars generally, and to the Dog Star
Sirius . Listen to the
stated goal of this book:


"Today, there are more than twenty complete
zodiacs in Washington, D.C., each one pointing to an extraordinary
mystery. David Ovason, who has studied these astrological devices
for ten years, now reveals why they have been placed in such abundance in
the center of our nation's capitol and explains their interconnections.
His richly illustrated text tells the story of how Washington, from its
foundation in 1791, was linked with the Zodiac, with the meaning of
certain stars, and with a hidden cosmological symbolism that he uncovers
here for the first time." [Jacket flyleaf]


Immediately, we are told that the capitol city of the
United States of America was founded according to the Biblically
forbidden practice of Astrology from the beginning of its serious
construction. Further, as we get into this material, you will
discover that Washington, D.C. and its key government buildings, were
specifically oriented and dedicated to the Dog Star Sirius,
which we will later study, is the occult designation of Satan
.


This book absolutely proves the Satanic nature of
Freemasonry in its Invisible Fraternity, the vehement protestations to the
contrary from Masons today. Surely, you say, this book was written
by an Anti-Mason. Wrong! The author, David Ovason, is a noted
Astrologer, and his work is highly acclaimed by none other than C. Fred
Kleinknecht, 33 Degree, Sovereign Grand Commander, The Supreme Council, 33
Degree (Mother Council of the World), Southern Jurisdiction, U.S.A.,
Washington, D.C. [Page viii].


Listen to Kleinknecht glowingly praise this book's
findings in the Foreword. "In this fascinating and
well-researched book, David Ovason presents the remarkable thesis that
Washington, D.C., is a city of the stars. He demonstrates that there
are over 30 zodiacs in the city, and that the majority of them are
oriented in a meaningful way. Even more astonishing is it to learn
that these zodiacs were designed to point to the actual heavens -- thus
marrying the Capital City with the stars ... the assignment, position, and
meaning of Washington, D.C.'s zodiacs bespeak a relationship between
heaven and earth."


"What does this mean to us? The star Spica happens
to be the one that David Ovason has shown to be symbolically linked with
both Washington, D.C., and the United States as a whole ... this star may
be the origin of the five-pointed star that adorns the American flag.
He also suggest that Spica may have been the origin of the Blazing
(or Flaming) Star of Freemasonry." [Pages vii-viii]


Later, on pages 4-5, Ovason tells us that this star,
Spica, is really Sirius,
"represented in hieroglyphics that resembled an obelisk and a
five-pointed star"; further, Ovason says that the stars for
our American flag seems to have been taken from this Sirius hieroglyph.
If America and its capitol, were dedicated to the Dog Star Sirius,
this is a very weighty matter, indeed, for as we showed in NEWS1430,
and later here, this Sirius
is Satan .

SPECIFIC EVENTS IN
AMERICAN HISTORY DECIDED BY ASTROLOGY


"Had you stood on this water-edge of Foggy Bottom
on April 3, 1791 ... you would have witnessed remarkable event -- one
which seems to have been involved in the magic of the building of
Washington, D.C. On the morning of that day ... there would be an
eclipse, when the Sun ... would be blacked out by the body of the Moon ..
The eclipse of 1791 was in Aries -- a certain portent that the destiny of
Washington, D.C., would be filled with pioneering endeavor and excessive
(not to say belligerent) enthusiasms ... the augury of that morning ...
was remarkable. The Sun and Moon were not the only pair in Aries at that
time: no fewer than five of the known planets were in that zodiacal
Ram -- the sign which favors brave undertakings. Such cosmic
curiosities are a sign that the city had begun in a kind of dream -- as in
a vision." [Page 6-7]


Indeed, America seems to have been started by occult
Freemasons who were following the dream of Sir Francis Bacon, espoused
from 1590-1626, that North America should be established as a New
Atlantis. Listen to New World Order author, Elizabeth van Buren,
writing in her book, The Secret of the Illuminati
:


"Sir Francis Bacon had formed with the aid of his
secret society ... the plans for the colonization of the Western
Hemisphere ... There is a secret and immutable destiny planned for
mankind, one not recognized by or dreamt of by the mass of humanity.
The northern continent of America had been decreed to be the land of a
democratic commonwealth of states thousands of years before Columbus ever
sailed to its shores. There can be no doubt that the Enlightened
Ones had a hand in the formation of the new nation. Thomas Paine, George
Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and countless
others who were involved in signing the Declaration of Independence were
all Freemasons or members of some other sect. The designs for both
the Great Seal of the United States and earlier, the flag of the colony,
indicate that they were inspired by those with esoteric knowledge."
[Pages 142-144]


Now we know that Satan had plans for the United States
to be founded according to his occult lore, as the New Atlantis.
Atlantis was the mythical city in which all of its inhabitants were expert
practitioners of the occult doctrines, so adept that their Third Eye
actually became physically apparent. The United States was planned
to be the New Atlantis that would lead the rest of the world into the
occult heaven known as the New World Order, in which their Christ
would rule triumphantly for 1,000 years!


Sir Francis Bacon, beginning in the early 1590's, began
the detailed plans by which North America would be colonized. He was
the supreme adept in the Rosicrucian Society, and established the super
secret Knights of the Helmet [Ibid., p. 123-129], a society established
along the lines of Rosicrucianism. And, finally, Bacon was
responsible for the modern birth of Freemasonry, as detailed by Masonic
author, George V. Tudhope, in his book, Bacon Masonry
, ISBN 1-56459-108-5, reprinted by Kessinger's Publishing.


Thus, we can see that the occult activities of our
original occult Forefathers mentioned above was merely the outworking of
an occult plan originally conceived "thousands of years before
Columbus ever sailed"! Our Masonic forefathers were merely
following the details of the occult plan as envisioned specifically by Sir
Francis Bacon in the 1590's, operating according to the vision provided
him by his Guiding Spirit.


Christian author -- and former Black Magick Freemason
-- William Schnoebelen, states that "... others saw America as the
'New Atlantis', a place where occultism could prosper uninhibited by
Christianity. Long before 1776, a colony of Rosicrucians was
established in Ephrata, PA! Colonial America was full of occult
groups, and both Witchcraft and Freemasonry came over on the boats quite
early!" [William Schnoebelen, Masonry: Beyond The
Light
, Page 258]


In the New Atlantis, each citizen was so advanced in
the occult that a Third Eye physically opened up between their forehead.
Shockingly, this Third Eye features prominently in this book by Ovason.
Listen:


"Other historians will tell you that the
beginnings of this second Rome [Washington, D.C.] may be traced back
to a much earlier dream, in the imaginative 'second-sight' faculty of a
man who lived on this land ... in 1663, Francis Pope." [Page 8]

"Second-sight" is an occult term for a person who can
clairvoyantly see through a Third Eye, not physically apparent yet, but
operating nevertheless. [William Schnoebelen, Masonry: Beyond
The Light
, p. 178] Thus, Ovason is saying that our
original American Forefather Masons were so advanced they were seeing
clairvoyantly!


This understanding speaks volumes as to the original
Satanic designs Masonry had for this country. Let us now
examine how Freemasons built key buildings in Washington, D.C. according
to the doctrines of Satanism. You are beginning to get an
understanding of America you never had before, and you can now see why the
street layouts were so designed that they were shaped in the form of
Satanic symbols [Read NEWS1040,
"Masonic Symbols of Power In Their Seat of Power, Washington, D.C.,
and NEWS1399,
"Former Satanist Informs Us That Government Mall In Washington, D.C.
Was Originally Conceived As A Sephirotic Tree of Life".]


Before we actually begin our study, let us allow Ovason
the final word on the significance of Astrology and other occult symbols
in the building of Washington, D.C.: "... the mythology of the
stellar lights plays an essential part in the foundation and history of
the federal city ... Is there some secret behind the efforts of the
builders of this city to ensure that so many stars should fall to Earth?
Why should astronomers and astrologers make so much effort to weave their
magic art in this city? Furthermore, what is it about Washington,
D.C., that, in 200 years of colorful history, has made it the focus of
zodiac builders ... Is the city ... secretly being prepared for some
future time when the stars will be seen as the living mysteries they
really are?" [Pages 10-11]


The time when the "stars will be seen as the
living mysteries they really are" will be when Antichrist rules and
the Satanic Mysteries are brought back "into public expression"
[Master D.K., The Externalisation of the Hierarchy
, p. 570, speaking through Alice Bailey]. In other words, when
Antichrist rules, he will reestablish the Satanic Mysteries as public
worship. Then, the real significance of the Astrology built into
Washington, D.C., will be known to all.


Now, let us examine the extent to which Washington,
D.C., was originally built according to Luciferian Astrology.


THE DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE


Historians recognize that the beginning of the new
independent Republic occurred on July 4, 1776, when the Declaration of
Independence was publicly issued. We already know that the timing of
this declaration was carefully calculated according to Satanic doctrine.
July 4 is exactly the 66th day following the beginning of the Satanic
High Holy period called Beltane, which begins on April 30. In this
calculation, April 30 is counted as 'Day 1'.


The number '66' is the occult number for the Perfect
Government of the Perfect Man, who is represented by the number '666'.
Therefore, by waiting for the 66th day following Beltane to establish the
United States of America, our Masonic forefathers were telling fellow
Adepts throughout the world and through time, that America was going to be
the New Atlantis, the forerunner of the perfect global government of
Antichrist.


Further, July 4 is exactly 13 days after Summer
Solstice on June 21. In this calculation, June 22 is counted as 'Day
1'. The number 13 is the number of Satan's rebellion, and figures
prominently in Luciferian lore.


But, now, David Ovason tells us something new about the
Declaration of Independence. "These [Astrological] computations
clearly show that on the day the Declaration of Independence was agreed in
Philadelphia, the Sun was on Sirius
." [Page 138]


Thus, our occult Masonic Founding Fathers calculated
even the day when they should agree on the wording of the Declaration of
Independence. This day was one in which the Sun was on Sirius, This careful attention to the timing of the events which succeeded
in founding this nation were predetermined according to Astrological
phenomenon!


Ovason then clearly states, "The Mason who first
signed the Declaration of Independence would have been aware of the
particular significance of July 4 as a cosmic event." [Page 139]


As William Schnoebelen so boldly stated, "Colonial
America was full of occult groups, and both Witchcraft and Freemasonry
came over on the boats quite early!" From the very beginning of this
Republic, the battle in the supernatural sphere was raging for the soul of
this nation, just as God revealed is occurring for every major nation in
every era in Daniel 10:20.


WHAT -- WHO -- IS SIRIUS
THE DOG STAR BY WHICH AMERICA WAS ORIENTED?


Since we have already learned that Washington, D.C.,
specifically, and America generally, were originally laid out according to
the Dog Star Sirius, we need to examine the Egyptian Satanic Mythology
about Sirius. Once we have examined Egyptian belief of this star,
you will gain a far better understanding of the deep spiritual trouble
America is in with God. There has always been an America you never
knew existed, but God knows, and that is the key to this discussion, at
this End of the Age.


In Satanic legend, Sirius is one of the most important
stars in the galaxy; but, more to the point, Sirius is Satan! Let us
listen to what Freemason leader and author, Albert Pike, has to say about
Sirius, who came out of the Egyptian Mysteries.


"Isis was aided in her search [for the slain body
of Osiris] by Anubis, in the shape of a dog. He was Sirius, or the
Dog-Star, the friend and counselor of Osiris, and the inventor of
language, grammar, astronomy, surveying, arithmetic, music, and medical
science; the first maker of laws; and who taught the worship of the Gods,
and the building of Temples." [Albert Pike, Morals
and Dogma
, p. 376, Teachings of the 24th Degree, Prince of
the Tabernacle]


Thus, we can see the critically key role that Sirius
plays in the world of the Egyptian Mysteries. He was a counselor of
the Messiah figure, Osiris, who died for the good of mankind, and whose
body was "nailed up in the ark" [Ibid., p. 377]. Sirius
taught the beneficial sciences, made the original laws, taught the worship
of the pantheon of pagan gods, and taught how to build the pagan Temples.


Later, Pike tell us that Sirius was the "largest
and brightest Star in the Heavens ..." [Ibid., p. 454,
Teachings of the 25th Degree, Knight of the Brazen Serpent].
Since Sirius is the most important star during the days of June and July,
he is the star at the precise time the Summer is the hottest; therefore,
we get our saying "Dog Days of Summer" from Sirius.


However, when we dig into Luciferian lore just a little
deeper, we realize that Sirius is just another name for Hell and
for Satan
! Listen to occult writer M. Temple Richmond,
writing in his book, Sirius, p. 29:


"The Euphrateans, Persians, Phoenicians, and the
peoples of Vedic India called Sirius, The Leader, while the Romans knew
Sirius as Janitor Lethacus, or Keeper of Hell, both of which titles are
perhaps reminiscent of Anubis, the Egyptian god who led the deceased
through the underworld. The Egyptians themselves reverenced Sirius
under several other names as well, including Sothis, Sothi, Sept, Sepet,
Sopdet, Sot, and Sed."


Thus, this occult writer, Richmond, boldly states that Sirius
is the Keeper of Hell
! In the Bible, we call this
person, Satan . Richmond further ties together
Sirius with Anubis the dog.


The Egyptians also called him Set, or Seth. New
Age author and founder of the Luciferian secret society called House of
Theosophy, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, writes of the god, Set.
"... Hermes, the god of wisdom, called also Thoth, Tat, Seth, Set,
and Sat-an, and that he was, furthermore, when
viewed under his bad aspect, Typhon, the Egyptian Satan, who was also
Set." [Isis Unveiled, Vol. I, Science, New
York, Trow's Printing and Bookbinding Company, 1877, p. 554, xxxiii.;
Emphasis was in original]


Christian author, Bill Schnoebelen , former practicing
Satanist, says that the Egyptian worship of Set was truly abominable.
He says, "in ancient Egypt, Set was worshipped with obscene,
homosexual rituals". These rituals performed for Set/Sirius were so
horrible and debased that "later rulers of Egypt defaced their
temples and obelisks and tried to drive them from the land." [Schnoebelen,
Twice The Child of Hell , p. 9]


Further, we discover that Sirius married his sister,
Nephthys, according to the New Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology,
Prometheus Press, 1972, p. 21. Thus, Sirius committed the sin of
Incest.


Christian author, Texe Marrs, says "Throughout the
centuries Sirius has been recognized by most occultists and esoteric
teachers as the location were Lucifer and his hierarchy dwell. In
Christian terminology, Sirius is simply a secretive codeword for 'hell'. {Marrs,
Book of New Age Cults and Religions, 1990, p.
299]


Occult author, Veronica Ions, boldly states that Anubis
[Sirius as the Dog] was a god of divination and magic [Egyptian
Mythology
, England: The Hamlyn Publishing Group, Ltd.,
1965, p. 83]; and Albert Pike notes that the "Egyptian Anubis is
the god guarding the gates of death". [Pike, Morals and
Dogma
, p. 430]


Set/Sirius is portrayed by Black Magick Satanists as
the "Devil of Darkness" and the Lord of the Underworld",
according to New Age author, M. Esther Harding, in her book, Woman's
Mysteries: Ancient and Modern
, New York, G.P. Putnam's Sons
for the C.G. Jung Foundation For Analytical Psychology, 1971 Edition, p.
48, and 168 respectively].


Further, Harding reveals that this "Underworld'
over which Set/Sirius is charge is not Hades, but Tartarus, for "Tartarus
is the hell of the damned and it was of this world that Set was the
Lord". Schnoebelen then adds the caveat that Set's symbol is
the Inverted Pentagram! Thus, the filthy Satanic Pentagram
represents Sirius/Set , by
whatever name the occultist uses.


Finally, Masonic author, Albert Pike, reveals in his
book, Morals and Dogma, that the Pentagram
Masons call the Blazing Star of their Lodges represents Sirius, the Dog
Star! Pike even blasphemously refers to Sirius as the
"Guardian and Guide of our Souls ... which to the Ancients was the
Sun." [Page 15-16] This is Sun Worship at its very worst!


Now, you can see why Masonic architects planned the
original street layout in Government Center to include the Goatshead of
Mendes pentagram, the inverted pentagram mentioned above. As we
report in NEWS1040,
this pentagram engulfs the White House!


KEY BUILDINGS BUILT AND
DEDICATED ACCORDING TO SATANIC DOCTRINE


1. House of the Temple, or the Supreme
Council
-- "... architect John Russell Pope ... built the
most esoteric structure in Washington, D.C., once known to Masons as the
House of the Temple, or the Supreme Council, Southern Jurisdiction."
[Page 9] This building is the one located precisely 13 blocks north
of the White House, and is directly lined up with that infamous obelisk,
also known as the Washington Monument. It is here that C. Fred
Kleinknecht, 33 Degree Supreme Commander, The Supreme Council 33 Degree
(Mother Council of the World), Southern Jurisdiction, makes his office.
This Masonic Temple is viewed by occultists as the true spiritual heart of
Washington, D.C.


2. Washington, D.C. street layout is
laid out according to the plans of Babylon !
"... the positions of the Capitol and the White House became the
focal points for the city ... the avenue joining the first two important
sites (later called Pennsylvania Avenue) determined the approximate angle
of the radiants from the Capitol. These radiants were imposed upon a grid
of streets oriented on a north-south line, in a fashion which some
historians trace back to ancient Roman foundations, and others to plans of
Babylon." [Ovason, Page 41]


America is truly the Neo-Babylon of the world. In
Revelation 2:13, Jesus revealed that Satan has a city in which he makes
his seat! "I know thy works and where thou dwellest, even where
Satan's seat is." At the time Jesus revealed the events of
Revelation to John, Satan's seat was in the city of Pergamos. Since
1776, when Luciferian Masons established America as the New Atlantis,
Satan's seat has been Washington, D.C.! You will better understand
the information which is to follow if you keep this thought in mind.


America truly can be the Economic Babylon of Revelation
18! [Read CE1038 for
full details]


Washington DC map

3. Even the location of Government Center
was made according to occult thinking! George Washington
issued a proclamation dated March 30, 1791, which set aside the specific
location -- seen in this map -- on which Government Center was to be
built. This location was chosen because the layout of the land and
the river created what esotericists call the "Pythagorean Y
". As David Ovason explains, "The Pythagorean Y is a
vestigial drawing [a faint tracing] of a path through life, in which one
is perpetually presented with a choice of symbolic directions ... Should
one do good or bad? Should one be selfish, or generous? The
Pythagorean Y represented all the dualities which the growing soul must
bear with each passing moment of time." [Ovason, Page 47]


Thus, this very location for this occult capitol city
dedicated to the Egyptian Star Sirius was
determined by occult thinking. This geographical location was
selected because the Potomac River and its Eastern Branch, naturally
formed a "Pythagorean Y"!


The next event is also very revealing. The
ceremony to dedicate this particular area occurred on April 15, 1791, at
precisely 3:30p.m. "... Ellicott -- now revealed in the ritual
as a Masonic brother of George Washington -- symbolically confirmed the
precise location ... This done, Elisha Cullen Dick, the Master of
Alexandria Lodge No. 22 ... placed the marker. Once the location was
completed, a deposit of corn, wine, and oil was made upon it, according to
Masonic practice."


The mere fact that Freemasonry carries out a Corn, Wine
And Oil ceremony shouts for all to hear that this organization is as pagan
and Satanic as any which has ever existed from the Egyptian and Babylonian
Satanic Mysteries. You see, this ceremony is a part of Sun Worship,
a practice absolutely forbidden by Scripture!


Masonic author George H. Steinmetz, in his book Freemasonry:
Its Hidden Meaning
, states: "The ancients who
worshipped the Sun as a god, or as a symbol of God, considered all things
yellow, golden color, of the sun, as pertaining to it; hence, gold, brass,
and corn or grain, because of their color, were deemed sacred ..."


Likewise, the ancient pagans associate wine with God,
who was considered "at once the Wine of life and the Wine
bearer". [Francis Grant, Oriental Philosophy
, p. 133-134].


Finally, we learn the Astrological reason for beginning
the ceremony at precisely 3:30p.m. "At exactly 3:30p.m.,
Jupiter, the most beneficial planet in the skies, began to rise over the
horizon. It was in 23 degrees of Virgo ... he seized on the moment
when the zodiacal Virgo was exerting an especially strong and beneficial
influence. By this means, the zodiacal power of Virgo, which was
called in later Masonic circles 'the beautiful Virgin' was able to stamp
her benign influence on the building of the federal city. Was this
one of the contributing reasons why many astrologers have insisted that
Washington, D.C. is ruled by zodiacal Virgo ... It is quite clear
that the ceremonial placing of the stone related to more than merely the
founding of the federal district: it was somehow linked to the
future destiny of America itself." [Ovason, Page 49]


4. The occult role of Pennsylvania Avenue
-- "In L'Enfant's faded map, and its later amendments,
Pennsylvania Avenue was accorded the most important role, as mediator
between Capitol and presidential home." [Ovason, P. 60] Pennsylvania
Avenue represents one leg of the Masonic Compass running from the White
House to the Capitol [Read NEWS1040
for full details and a map].


5. The White House (President's
House) -- "... the President's House was the first public building to
be erected in Washington, D.C. A letter submitted 'by a gentleman'
to a Charleston newspaper offers the only surviving eyewitness version of
the Masonic cornerstone laying, which was held on Saturday, October 13,
1792, when the Georgetown Lodge No. 9 of Maryland gathered for the
ceremony." [Ovason, P. 62]


Not only was the White House dedicated by Masons to the
pagan gods, but the architect was a Mason, a person named James Hoban,
whom Ovason calls a "speculative Mason". [Ovason, P. 63]


The cornerstone was laid carefully according to
Astrology. "In the arch of skies on the day the foundation
stone for the White House was laid, there was a most interesting
conjunction. Shortly before noon, the Moon had entered the same degree as
the Dragon's Head (a node of the Moon). Both planet and node were in
23 degrees of Virgo." [Ovason, Page 64-65]


With the White House having been dedicated to the pagan
gods, you can see why the Goatshead of Mendes Pentagram -- the most evil
of all symbols -- engulfs the Executive Mansion. [Read NEWS1040
for full details and a map]. Is it any wonder that so many of our
Presidents have been Masonic or members of other occult groups?


6. Streets laid out according to occult
plan
. "Time and time again, as we study the Masonic
involvement in the building of this city, through almost two centuries, we
shall see emphasis placed on this sign Virgo. Time and time again,
we shall see that a knowledge of the stars played an important part in
every stage of the creative phases in the construction of the city.
Indeed, as the story of Washington, D.C., unfolds, we will be forced to
the conclusion that the 13 approximately straight lines of avenues which
L'Enfant planned for the city were symbolic of the stripes of the national
flag, laid out to receive the impress of the stars." [Ovason, P. 66]


Amazing! Now you know THE reason why
the streets of Government Center in Washington, D.C., are laid out in
obvious Luciferian symbols, like the Goatshead of Mendes [Inverted]
Pentagram, the Masonic Compass, Square, Rule, and generally in such
straight lines, 13 such streets to be exact. These streets were
"laid out to receive the impress of the stars" to satisfy
Astrology, forbidden in Scripture.


Further, we have already learned that the city street
plan originated in Rome and Ancient Babylon!


With this concept in mind, let us review an occult poem
created to commemorate the building of Washington, D.C. Keep in mind
that Washington, D.C., was originally called Rome, that
"second-sight" refers to a Satanist who has achieved the mystic
Third Eye clairvoyant capabilities, and that the obelisk is nothing more
than the penis of Baal whom Satanists worship.
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  • irish -liberty or death! 2011/12/03 12:06:11
    irish -liberty or death!
    +3
    no,the symbols are based on ancient egyptian ones. masons believe in a creator ,a god of their choice. satan is a christian creation. until christianity arrived there was no evil being called the devil.
    symbols are considered to be powerful,all ancients believed this. a good study of symbols would to be to read "carl jung 's man and his symbols."

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  • Party Boy [A7X Bat] 2012/06/24 09:09:32
    Party Boy [A7X Bat]
    It's funny what people will twist history into. It's a known fact that some of our founding fathers were satanists. Funny thing about satanists that blind catholics always falsify. Satanism is supposed to be the opposite of catholisizm in its tenants. It's not devil and demon worship at all. Catholisizm is the worship of otherworldly devinity, in the immortal spirit. Satanism is the opposite of this, which is worship of the materialistic life we have on earth, and "the call of the flesh".
  • underdawg 2011/12/15 20:01:07
    underdawg
    LittleMissPatriot New!
    And this entire blog as written by a fake Christian doing the work of Satan, the father of lies.
    -----------------------------...
    The poor lost soul blocked me. She and others like her think the US was created by God a christian nation. First of all it is not a nation but a corporation of the British Crown run by the Vatican. Second the US was created by the antichrist forces to create their satanic NWO. She has no idea who her enemies are. AWE, she loves her Satanic warmongering Jesuit controlled nation.

    Benjamin Franklin, a so-called pillar of the Christian Church and Founding Father of
    the United States, was a member of the Satanic Hellfire Club and the bodies of six children and four adults have been found under his former home in London dated to the time he lived there. Adolph Hitler and the Nazis were Satanists and so were their ‘opponents’ like Winston Churchill and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

    The USA was founded by the occultic Elite for the very reason of executing the plan to
    control the world. It is this nation which is the hub of its wheel of influence. Christopher
    Columbus and his voyage was backed and financed by the Brotherhood, with his ships' sails bearing a red cross on a white background, the symbol of the Knights Templar (the chiv...
    LittleMissPatriot New!
    And this entire blog as written by a fake Christian doing the work of Satan, the father of lies.
    -----------------------------...
    The poor lost soul blocked me. She and others like her think the US was created by God a christian nation. First of all it is not a nation but a corporation of the British Crown run by the Vatican. Second the US was created by the antichrist forces to create their satanic NWO. She has no idea who her enemies are. AWE, she loves her Satanic warmongering Jesuit controlled nation.

    Benjamin Franklin, a so-called pillar of the Christian Church and Founding Father of
    the United States, was a member of the Satanic Hellfire Club and the bodies of six children and four adults have been found under his former home in London dated to the time he lived there. Adolph Hitler and the Nazis were Satanists and so were their ‘opponents’ like Winston Churchill and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

    The USA was founded by the occultic Elite for the very reason of executing the plan to
    control the world. It is this nation which is the hub of its wheel of influence. Christopher
    Columbus and his voyage was backed and financed by the Brotherhood, with his ships' sails bearing a red cross on a white background, the symbol of the Knights Templar (the chivalric order who went on to become the Freemasons etc., whose symbol is the red rose or cross upon a white background which represents blood and semen in Satanic ritual). Almost a century before Columbus, the Templars had reached North America and had already begun trading with and exploiting the native nations there. Since its 'discovery', the history of the USA has been the history of ethnic cleansing, imposition of power, slavery, mass exploitation and the worship of wealth. The U.S. president, generally accepted as the most powerful man in the world, is a slave to his prime allegiance, the Brotherhood. Even he is probably not a top-level member as it is wiser to hide behind the tools of corruption in anonymity and to pull the strings in this way. http://www.theforbiddenknowle...
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  • LittleMissPatriot 2011/12/14 23:01:22
    LittleMissPatriot
    And this entire blog as written by a fake Christian doing the work of Satan, the father of lies.
  • Radical Ed 2011/12/03 21:00:14
    Radical Ed
    +2
    dude!, you dropped your tin foil hat.

    dude dropped tin foil hat
  • underdawg Radical Ed 2011/12/04 04:18:35
    underdawg
    oh there you are sittin in the corner

    dumbed down people dunce hat
  • irish -liberty or death! 2011/12/03 12:06:11
    irish -liberty or death!
    +3
    no,the symbols are based on ancient egyptian ones. masons believe in a creator ,a god of their choice. satan is a christian creation. until christianity arrived there was no evil being called the devil.
    symbols are considered to be powerful,all ancients believed this. a good study of symbols would to be to read "carl jung 's man and his symbols."
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/03 19:07:17
    underdawg
    a god of their choice, lol, who would wanna believe we live in a nation and world run by freaks who serve the devil and have offered human sacrifices throughout history to their god, loserfer. The coming world order is about their god-s. Get your beast mark RFID chip.

    "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations.

    GET to KNOW your-our masters operating from the UN....If you cant see what the UN is really about then i must say and giving you the benefit of the doubt that.. you are a unwilling unknowing NWO pawn or just cant see the enemy agenda due to a clouded mind unable to see all the trapping of their demonic matrix or somehow a part of the Luciferian NEW Age movement and dont know it yet.

    In 1982, The U.N. officially became a Luciferic Organization and promotes the "Great Invocation" (of Lucifer) as their world prayer. THIS WAS THE PLAN FOR THE U.N. SINCE ITS BIRTH IN 1945, THE FUTURE STAGE FOR ANTICHRIST TO COME AND UNITE THE NATIONS TOGETHER AS ONE. One point can be said for The Illuminati, they always plan far ahead.

    “UN is a Hotbed of New Age Occult”.

    In the name of universal brotherhood and GAIA ...









    a god of their choice, lol, who would wanna believe we live in a nation and world run by freaks who serve the devil and have offered human sacrifices throughout history to their god, loserfer. The coming world order is about their god-s. Get your beast mark RFID chip.

    "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations.

    GET to KNOW your-our masters operating from the UN....If you cant see what the UN is really about then i must say and giving you the benefit of the doubt that.. you are a unwilling unknowing NWO pawn or just cant see the enemy agenda due to a clouded mind unable to see all the trapping of their demonic matrix or somehow a part of the Luciferian NEW Age movement and dont know it yet.

    In 1982, The U.N. officially became a Luciferic Organization and promotes the "Great Invocation" (of Lucifer) as their world prayer. THIS WAS THE PLAN FOR THE U.N. SINCE ITS BIRTH IN 1945, THE FUTURE STAGE FOR ANTICHRIST TO COME AND UNITE THE NATIONS TOGETHER AS ONE. One point can be said for The Illuminati, they always plan far ahead.

    “UN is a Hotbed of New Age Occult”.

    In the name of universal brotherhood and GAIA Environmentalism, the United Nations —
    supported by $6.347 billion of US taxpayer dollars in FY 2009 – is actively promoting a new paganism that is a hodge podge of New Agism, Eastern mysticism, and covert Satanism.

    For 23 years, the United Nations had a self-proclaimed Hindu mystic named Sri Chinmoy as its own in-house “spiritual adviser” — guru. Chinmoy would offer prayer and meditation meetings for anyone to attend every Tuesday and Friday in the UN’s Meditation Room

    In his book Genesis: Shaping a Global Spirituality, longtime UN Under Secretary General
    Robert Muller exulted that ”We have…a UN Meditation Group led by an Indian Mystic. One
    could tell several moving stories of the spiritual transformation the UN has caused, to the
    point that this little speck on earth is becoming a holy ground.” (quoted in Gary Kah’s The New World Religion, p. 310)

    The symbols and teachings of the mystery religions, the illuminati, the templar knights, freemasonry and related groups are being used to indoctrinate the world for the coming of the anti-Christ.
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  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/04 13:55:41
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    underdawg,there is no such creature as satan,that is a christian invention.
    you have to take any belief system out of the equation. the lust for power doesn't need any belief in a good or evil. it manipulates that fear in others for its own gain.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/05 02:53:45 (edited)
    underdawg
    says you and ?? If he does exist you and billions are in for a rude awakening. The occult (contacting demon spirits) has been around since time began. The UN is full of demon activity. The world is full of the New Age spirituality, fake Christianity, the devil has blinded billions. The rulers of this world have destroyed real Christianity and have made God the enemy. and are selling their brands of religions and spirituality. So i can see how you deny any existence of the antichrist forces that rule this world..
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/05 13:25:02
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    underdawg,the evil committed is by humans and only humans who seek to control and dominate. psychopaths and sociopaths.
    the devil is only a symbol people use for evil. the devil is not real as you think it is. the evil is the humans who commit the evil for their own ends.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/05 15:57:58
    underdawg
    That sounds logical , but too much like that antichrist Zeigeist Movemnet mentallity.
    So i can say the same thing about the Big Bang Theory and evolution that many of you believe theres no God no devil just some preposterous big bang. Theycreated this hoax, so we are nothing but monkeys-apes?

    The one world religion is coming its about the occult and satanism hidden behind the New Age, people have contacted spirits for thousands of years irsh.

    The Age of Enlightenment was in full swing and by the end of the Eighteenth Century an explosion of natural philosophy, science, the resurgence of hermeticism and occult experimentation, all competed directly with the traditional teachings of the antichrist Church and the Jesuit monopoly in the Universities and Colleges. Numerous ideologies owe an intellectual and political heritage to this period: skepticism, rationalism, atheism, liberalism, humanism, reductionism, modernism, communism, nihilism and anarchism - among the most apparent.
    All of their terrorist attacks wars etc, are planned around their occult calendar

    Satanist believes that numbers contain inherent power. Thus, they literally order their lives by occult numerology - such numerology also is a key component in astrology, another system of divining that Satanists obs...
    That sounds logical , but too much like that antichrist Zeigeist Movemnet mentallity.
    So i can say the same thing about the Big Bang Theory and evolution that many of you believe theres no God no devil just some preposterous big bang. Theycreated this hoax, so we are nothing but monkeys-apes?

    The one world religion is coming its about the occult and satanism hidden behind the New Age, people have contacted spirits for thousands of years irsh.

    The Age of Enlightenment was in full swing and by the end of the Eighteenth Century an explosion of natural philosophy, science, the resurgence of hermeticism and occult experimentation, all competed directly with the traditional teachings of the antichrist Church and the Jesuit monopoly in the Universities and Colleges. Numerous ideologies owe an intellectual and political heritage to this period: skepticism, rationalism, atheism, liberalism, humanism, reductionism, modernism, communism, nihilism and anarchism - among the most apparent.
    All of their terrorist attacks wars etc, are planned around their occult calendar

    Satanist believes that numbers contain inherent power. Thus, they literally order their lives by occult numerology - such numerology also is a key component in astrology, another system of divining that Satanists observe very closely. The OCCULT CALENDAR is divided into Four (4) segments of 13 weeks each. http://www.bibliotecapleyades...
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  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/05 16:06:46
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    if you believe that. but why isn't it true that religions and beliefs are being used to gain control? people fear what they cannot see,they fear an afterlife. especially one that has been geared to being burnt for all eternity vs being happy,

    what you must understand that satanists believe and what is are 2 different things. you can believe all you want but it doesn't make it true does it?
    say you are convinced that it is going to rain,absolutely convinced and the weather people agree with you, its their belief that it will rain at such and such a time and be heavy. but then nothing happens. the sun is out and it doesn't rain

    so they were wrong. and you were wrong in spite of their saying so and your belief they were right.
    the same thing can be said about religions and beliefs. just because they say its so doesn't make it so.they can believe all they want. when it doesn't happen then what do they say?
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/05 16:19:26
    underdawg
    You can deny the devil's existence and his servants of the devil all you want that doesnt mean they dont exist or make you right. So you have all the truths of the universe? lol, SO WHAT does ot boil down to what lies we wanna believe. Is there any truth in world that came from nothing from some big bang?
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/05 16:31:19
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    i didn't say i have the truths of the universe. i urge you to use common sense. these cults all pretend to have some power. where is the power if they have to work so hard to make things happen? i see no power. if they really had that ability then they wouldn't have to be so deceptive would they?
    where is the evidence that what they believe happens? there is none.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/06 01:19:38 (edited)
    underdawg
    This whole world reeks of the occult and satanism. Yes most christian churches are NWO controlled I did a few blogs about that. Common sense tells me the bible adds up The anticchrist forces you call some secular tyrant scam artist though some are, but at the highest level the satanist control ther warmongers and terrorist. I agree with Brian H. The satanic Roman empire that killed many christians and created their own perverted occult christianty is alive and well. The Vatican which is DEEPPPP INTO the OCCULT and SATANISM rules this world, they have their Jesuit armies, they have zillions to throw around. Sorry hon one of us has been played and decieved i say its you you say its me, common sense says you are wrong. The NWO will be an occult laden antichrist Commuinst reign. Avoid the beast mark if you have any sense.

    OCCULTIC AMERICA OCCULTIC AMERICA

    Let us now quickly look at the Washington Monument, which lies directly West of the Capitol. In fact, the Washington Monument lies on a straight line, precisely 900 West of the Capitol. The Washington Monument(left) is the most important Presidential monument to the occultist, because it is an obelisk set inside a circle. What, you are probably saying, is an obelisk? An obelisk is a tall, four-sided stone pillar tapering towar...









    This whole world reeks of the occult and satanism. Yes most christian churches are NWO controlled I did a few blogs about that. Common sense tells me the bible adds up The anticchrist forces you call some secular tyrant scam artist though some are, but at the highest level the satanist control ther warmongers and terrorist. I agree with Brian H. The satanic Roman empire that killed many christians and created their own perverted occult christianty is alive and well. The Vatican which is DEEPPPP INTO the OCCULT and SATANISM rules this world, they have their Jesuit armies, they have zillions to throw around. Sorry hon one of us has been played and decieved i say its you you say its me, common sense says you are wrong. The NWO will be an occult laden antichrist Commuinst reign. Avoid the beast mark if you have any sense.

    OCCULTIC AMERICA OCCULTIC AMERICA

    Let us now quickly look at the Washington Monument, which lies directly West of the Capitol. In fact, the Washington Monument lies on a straight line, precisely 900 West of the Capitol. The Washington Monument(left) is the most important Presidential monument to the occultist, because it is an obelisk set inside a circle. What, you are probably saying, is an obelisk? An obelisk is a tall, four-sided stone pillar tapering toward a pyramidal top.

    The obelisk is critically important to the occultist because they believe that the spirit of the ancient Egyptian sun god, Ra, resided in the obelisk.

    Thus, the obelisk represents the very presence of the sun god, whom the Bible calls Satan!!

    There are only three major obelisks in the world today, and two of them are in the United States. According to Epperson in his book, "The New World Order", the first major obelisk was constructed in St. Peter's square in Rome, and is so placed that every Pope who addresses any crowd in the square, must face the obelisk. A New Age author, Peter Tomkins, reports the same facts in his book, "The Magic Of Obelisks", Harper and Row, New York, 1982, ISBN 0-06-014899-3.

    The American FLAG is a symbol of the Brotherhood

    The American FLAG is a symbol of the Brotherhood and the Brotherhood is linked to Satanism. The Flag has 50 pentagrams on it with thirteen stripes. But again, as mentioned in an earlier page, the number 13 is not evil. They have programmed us to think that it is evil because they do not want us to go near the knowledge that is behind it. http://www.theforbiddenknowle...
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  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/07 14:13:45
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    you do realize when you start with an hypothesis and a preformed idea its easy to find support for that idea?
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/07 23:02:34
    underdawg
    yes no, common sense says a lot of people are in touch with the spirit world

  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/08 12:27:01
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    they can make all the signs they want it doesn't mean its true.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/08 19:07:49
    underdawg
    So you only see the guy on the front, but didnt watch any part of the video. Thats why all you can say is what you said. Yeah all they have is signs right?
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/09 14:03:11
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    i watched it . it doesn't matter what they do. if they had real power they wouldn't NEED all this childish stuff to scare people and make them afraid.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/11 08:44:51 (edited)
    underdawg
    CHILDISH? its about enslaving the people with spells and rituals, to prepare us for the coming devil in the flesh. Tje occult is everywhere that doesnt bother you, you let your kids or family be witches, warlocks? sacrificing animals drinking blood? Its also about keeping humanity in sin, be it sex the occult violence etc. The occult is the gateway to the spirit world. Try it say hi to the demon spirits.

    A proponent of the New Age and the Secret Brotherhood's plan for a New World Order is Robert Hieronimus. In his book America's Secret Destiny, he traced the spiritual vision of America's founding fathers and the plan's eventual fruition in what we call the New World Order and the New Age Movement (both of which are synonymous). He stresses that the founding fathers of America had the equivalent of "Masters" and were pupils in a sense, much like today's powerful Elite have Masters and Gurus, following the teachings of the Great Plan.
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/11 12:19:12
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    underdawg,they wouldn't need spells and rituals if it was true. real power doesn't rely on humans making sacrifices etc .
    you need to step back and realize that its all about CONTROL. FEAR and control. once you have enslaved a person's mind thru those 2 things ,you can pretty much tell them anything and have them believe it.
    why do think religions fear and hate atheists? because they can't twist the minds of those who don't believe. with out the fear and control ,they have no power over anyone.this is why they tell you you have to have faith and have to believe. without the support of that fear they are nothing.
    belief gives them power,but the only power it gives is to deceive people more. religions are cults.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/12 06:02:06 (edited)
    underdawg
    atheist minds have been twisted by the antichrist forces THE BIG BANG - EVOLUTION OF MAN FROM BEAST. You all have been had. They can treat you anyway they want since they have you believing you are just a beast their cattle to be fattened up for their
    slaughters. Secularism is a cult.
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/12 12:22:23
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    religions are the cults. if you don't believe them then you are actually using your own mind to think. satanism is just another cult. with a different god. to break free you have to stop believing in them. free your mind.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/12 17:50:56 (edited)
    underdawg
    there is no free mind in this world, you are under the influence of demonic spirits and God's spirits but you wanna reject them all. So you are a free neanderthal evolved from chimp feces? thats free real free, you go girl.
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/12 18:18:57
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    have i insulted you ? ever?
    when you free your mind from superstitions and all the stories ,symbols etc etc etc ,you can see much clearer.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/12 18:39:48
    underdawg
    I am trying to get your belief your stand on the Big bang and evolution but you keep avoiding it. I know the rulers of this world lie and lie to us all. Why would they create some religion and Jesus Christ and then have others in their clan slander him and claim he is just a pagan god.

    Who said he is the way the truth and the life? Man, the devil Jesus? Why did they say that and turn around and created a demonic society of jesus that kills God's creation humanity.
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/12 18:50:58
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    sorry ,i didn't realize that.
    the big bang,sort of . i have read and watched science shows on the different theories. the membrane theory seems to make a lot of sense.
    evolution occurs every day . every new recombination of,which is a new person or species is evolution. you have moved up from your parents etc etc

    do not take religions literally.
    fear creates more control doesn't it? if you pretend to be evil and have power ,people will believe it and you have control.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/12 19:03:21 (edited)
    underdawg
    Evolution does occur in life new species are being discovered daily. But evolution between species? and the Big bang that happens everyday too? Its a fallacy created by the luciferians, why would they create Jesus and then spend billions shooting him down. I know the devil and his nwo pawns are using religions the OCCULT and New Age movement, he has created many religions and destroyed many denominations. I am not about religion but faith, faith in God that he would not just leave us here in hell which is what this planet is, the devil runs it until God takes away from him. He has left his Holy Spirit, but even so, we must be careful cause the devil can transform himself into an angel of light draw many in then destroy them.
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/12 19:12:49
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    that isn't the theory of evolution. darwin never said it was inter species.
    we have no idea what happens. or why or when.
    the big bang,creation,it was noticed that there was background radiation all thru space.

    ask yourself why? why would a god create evil?if this god is good and loving,why would it create evil? it must be both good and evil then right? it can't create something it doesn't know about. religions claim god created all things. if you say the devil is evil by choice then you still go back to the creating all things don't you? so why create this endless conflict? it makes no sense it makes this god petty. and no better than the greek gods. or any other gods.now why would a god allow this evil to overrun its planet if it loves humans so much? answer that.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/12 19:25:43
    underdawg
    It was noticed there was background radiation all thru space? What space where did that space come from and the radiation? Come on now.

    He created what? Paradise and Lucifer, after Lucifer the greatest angel in heaven rebelled. He had free will and rebelled and turned into a bitter hateful vengeful demon and many angels followed him. So how did God create evil?
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/12 19:42:59
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    we have no idea. and the only ideas outside of science are religion which bases its ideas on what? conjecture? imagination?

    god created all ,ALL things . god created your so called free will then correct? if god knows the future because god created all,then there is no future is there? free will?
    if you claim lucifer is evil and god created all things,then god created evil.
    therefore god is good and evil,or maybe all evil,but certainly not all good.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/12 21:56:51 (edited)
    underdawg
    Religion as in witchcraft, divination, sorcery, alchemy?
    So what does it all up too? Many people have a problem with the same things you speak of. So reason is all we have? I cannot deny the existence of the antichrist forces (and how they have been killing people for centuries) they would not exist if there were no God-Jesus. Logic!!

    So you hope there is no God, he doesnt measure up to your ideals.
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/13 13:08:10
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    wrong! there is no god,at least not one as petty and vengeful and murderous as religions make it out to be. the evil is man made. always was ,always will be.
    do you really think some powerful being that can create the universe is at the same time so petty and worried about humans that it hovers over the earth and tries to get humans to believe in it? the entire concept is ludicrous.
    we have minds and reasoning for a reason . and the mind shouldn't be clouded by superstition.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/14 09:45:27 (edited)
    underdawg
    You have convinced yourself so not even God you claim doesnt exist could change ur mind. You're mind is that powerful. Murderous? about as real as your big bang

    We have our minds and reasoning for a reason, you are then talking humans that evolved from mud or pond scum to beast then to civilized beast.

    We have our minds for a reason to create EVIL thats all we do right? and believe in fairy tale explosions and bug bang that turned nothing into a endless universe?, wake up
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/14 10:51:21
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    we have no idea where we come from or who made or put us here. what we do know is that our minds seem to be different from other life on this planet. we could be aliens for all we know.

    if the god who is the opposite of the devil is much like the devil why worship it? and yes if you follow the stories in the bible that god is a mean,petty,evil entity . and there is no devil in the bible either.
    doesn't the big bang support the bible story? from nothing a god made something? yes it does. since we all begin as one celled organisms why is it so hard to believe that we come from pond scum as you put it? doesn't the bible say man was made of dirt?
    your mind is being bogged down by fear and worry about something that doesn't exist. imagine what you could do if you applied that same negative energy to thinking positively.
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/14 11:44:55 (edited)
    underdawg
    trust me you will fall for the New Age spirituality you will and you will accept your beast mark you will fit right with the God deniers. You will be lucifer's child in the Age of Aquarius, how sweet while i will be dying of starvation you will be livin it up.
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/14 11:53:12
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    there you go again. insults.
    what happens when none of what you say will happen ,doesn't happen? what excuse will you come up with?
  • underdawg irish -... 2011/12/14 12:04:52
    underdawg
    you see insults why?, you claim to know a lot, about the NWO, but deny the beast mark-RFID chip? You dont know what the NWO is then
  • irish -... underdawg 2011/12/14 12:09:45
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    reread what you wrote to me. that isn't an insult?
    the nwo is about debt. if they use all the hogwash about the devil etc for gullible people then they will.
    tell me why if there is a good and evil ,why aren't pedophile priests,rabbi's and ministers afraid when they get caught? because they are the purveyors of the religious lies. think about that.

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