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Florida Teen who killed Bully wont be charged. Good decision or bad?

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A Florida teen who stabbed his classmate to death last year will not face murder charges, a judge ruled on Wednesday.



Collier County Judge Lauren Brodie agreed that 15-year-old Jorge Saavedra acted in self-defense when he knifed Dylan Nuno, 16, after a fight at a bus stop, WINK-TV reported.



"(He) had more than enough reason to believe he was in danger of death or great bodily harm," she wrote in her decision.



Saavedra, who was 14 at the time of the killing, was protected under
Florida's Stand Your Ground law, which stipulates that people can defend
themselves if they feel threatened by any means necessary, NBC 2
reported.



Brodie heard from multiple witnesses who testified that Nuno initiated
the fight and had been harassing Saavedra for more than a year.



"The facts were consistent. There was a group of boys harassing Mr.
Saavedra, repeatedly threatening Mr. Saavedra, on the day this incident
happened,” Saavedra's attorney Donald Day said. “Not one boy, but a group of boys had threatened physical violence."



In his testimony at the trial, Saavedra testified that Nuno told him,
"Today's the day" — meaning they were going to fight — when he got on
the bus. Nuno then followed him off the bus and a group of students
circled the two, egging them on, according to reports.



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  • Nicholas DeShane 6 days ago (edited)
    I agree with the decision.
    Nicholas DeShane
    Bullies are not people, they only resemble people. Studies have shown severe bullying can cause similiar psychological trauma as assault, rape, molestation, and various other traumas, also bullies are 60% likely to commit atleast one of those offenses by the age of 24, that is right a bully is 60% more likely than a person to commit a violent felony. It is like when kids torture animals, maybe all kids that torture animals do not become serial killers but all serial killers did. Better safe than sorry to protect society these potential monsters need removed. This boy needs a medal and a parade in his honor, a parade the goes by the house of the people that spawned the unholy machination which he slew as punishment for the boys will be boys attitude they likely had, they could have saved their son but were likely to ignorant to recognize HE had a problem, his death is entirely HIS family's fault. There needs to be a weekly bully hunt with rewards going to the ones who bag the greatest number of these foul emotionally retarded primitive beasts. To those that say the bullied should toughen up do you feel the same way about sexual harassment, racism, or antisemitism, harassment is harassment and everyone has the right to not be harassed.
    Woo
  • Steven8765 2012/03/12 21:31:31
    I agree with the decision.
    Steven8765
    as long as bullies and jocks die.
  • BoomLover 2012/01/27 00:38:57
    I agree with the decision.
    BoomLover
    Self defense...pretty simple...too bad the bully had to die, but, ya choose to live that kind of life, you got to accept the consequences....
  • zombie 2012/01/16 00:44:34
    I agree with the decision.
    zombie
    +1
    totally!!!
  • 2012/01/15 12:48:06
    I agree with the decision.
    +1
    Give me your answer after you've been threatened, bullied, and hit.
  • boots 2012/01/08 14:16:51
    I agree with the decision.
    boots
    +3
    Man school sounds more and more like prison everyday .
    Its so sad that people have to go get a education with a kill or be killed attitude .
  • Retarded Disfigured Clown 2012/01/08 08:08:44
    I agree with the decision.
    Retarded Disfigured Clown
    +2
    Personally, I think bullying like that should just straight up be a hanging crime.
  • disclaimer 2012/01/08 03:41:52
    I agree with the decision.
    disclaimer
    +3
    Glad someone has respect for self defense, for once.
  • ttfndude 2012/01/07 22:03:24
    I agree with the decision.
    ttfndude
    +2
    damn right!!! I wish our state had this type of law but if you defend yourself here even if it is against multiple attackers you become the criminal and THEY become the victims
  • goblue1968 2012/01/07 18:58:13
  • Evan 2012/01/07 05:37:16 (edited)
    I agree with the decision.
    Evan
    +3
    Bad boys, watcha gunna do when Savaadra comes for you.
  • gimini210 2012/01/07 04:27:17
    I agree with the decision.
    gimini210
    +4
    OK, look at this in a reality of what was going on, here is a lone boy being threatened by a group of boys who for a year made his life a living h e l l and then told him he was getting it that day. Got news for you, even I would arm myself and if you jumped me so sorry about your luck. I would not stand back and take a beating or be beaten to death because I might offend some one by using lethal force. If the bully had not jumped him he would be alive today. So taking the whole picture and building on what I've read in this case yes he was justified. He lived in fear and no one should live in fear.
  • abycinnamon BN-1 2012/01/07 01:36:52
    I agree with the decision.
    abycinnamon BN-1
    +5
    Bullies do hurt (physically) and kill people. Absolutely their threats should be taken seriously. I'm very glad this young man was not railroaded for defending himself. I commend his courage. Maybe the next potential bully will think twice.
  • chgo 2012/01/07 00:49:37
    I do not agree with the decision.
    chgo
    Where did that knife come from?
  • Maci 2012/01/07 00:16:50
  • prosperhappily 2012/01/07 00:11:14
    I agree with the decision.
    prosperhappily
    +5
    I'm not gonna say I'm glad the bully is dead. He was a kid acting stupid as kids sometimes do. But, when you go around attacking people, that's the risk you take.
  • Dogman 2012/01/06 22:46:52
    I agree with the decision.
    Dogman
    +4
    It's unfortunate, but bullying is more prevalent than ever. Schools need to get involved and put an end to it during the school day, but for the most part, they could care less.
  • Lady Wh... Dogman 2012/01/07 10:19:35
    Lady Whitewolf
    +4
    PARENTS need to get involved... if I ever caught any kid of MINE bullying someone, I'd run his ass up the flagpole!

    BE A PARENT!
  • Dogman Lady Wh... 2012/01/07 12:20:18
    Dogman
    +3
    I hear you, and I don't mean to imply that parents don't have a role in this. But, parents aren't in the school every day where much of the bullying takes place - teachers are.
  • Christo... Dogman 2012/01/08 08:32:56
    Christopher101
    +1
    While I agree partially, parents can't protect you forever. I'd say (depending on their age) teach him/her to defend themselves. Yes there's no quick fix but it'll last you a life time.
  • Dogman Christo... 2012/01/08 10:55:58
    Dogman
    +1
    Kids often times don't have the coping skills to handle constant ridicule. Look at the statistics for adolescents that attempt suicide. The numbers are staggering.
  • Christo... Dogman 2012/01/09 15:02:48
    Christopher101
    +1
    This is true but it's also good to teach one early the difference between fact and opinion/how the world world works. If one is used to fighting(non literal/literal), when he/she is confronted with said fighting it is "normal." Thus making it easier to deal with the situation. To have the knowledge how to handle these situations is great but you can only rely on others so much. (parents/teachers/police). IMO not having the coping skills to get through something as simple as bullying seems to indicate ignorance from the parents. This is not always the case but normally when a child ends his life his parents play the "i'm so surprised, he was a good boy/girl" card.
  • Dogman Christo... 2012/01/12 20:25:50
    Dogman
    +1
    We each ha e different coping skills and levels of tolerance. And, the degree to which someone is bullied varies greatly. It would be nice if everyone could agree that bullies are ass holes and that they should be ignored, but it's hard on kids at that age when they're trying to fit in and be accepted by their peers.
  • Christo... Dogman 2012/01/12 20:42:40
    Christopher101
    +1
    I agree, that's why as a parent (eventually) I will give my kid the skills he/she will need to protect themselves.No one wants to have to defend themselves against a bully but reality is reality. Sometimes people get attacked (physically/mentally) and we can either be proactive and acquire the skills to prevent/stop it or be helpless when reality walks over you.
  • Dogman Christo... 2012/01/13 15:05:57
    Dogman
    +1
    It lloks like this young man chose the former.
  • Christo... Dogman 2012/01/13 15:08:51
    Christopher101
    +1
    Sadly that seems to be the case.
  • bettyboop 2012/01/06 22:40:38
    I agree with the decision.
    bettyboop
    +4
    He did what he had to do!
  • Yu Ogata 2012/01/06 22:38:54
    I do not agree with the decision.
    Yu Ogata
    +2
    Why did Jorge carry a knife with him? Could it be recognized as the will of fight?
  • chgo Yu Ogata 2012/01/07 00:50:56
    chgo
    "Why did Jorge carry a knife with him?"

    That's what I wanna know!
  • Elaine Yu Ogata 2012/01/07 01:57:20
    Elaine
    +10
    1) Because he knew no one else would defend him.
    2) Because he knew he would need a weapon if the whole gang of bullies jumped him.
    3) Because he had been bullied for over a year and it was about darn time he ended it.
    4) Because he would be the one dead otherwise.
  • CHUCK Elaine 2012/01/07 20:19:58
    CHUCK
    +3
    THAT S A GREAT SET OF REASONS..
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  • Elaine CHUCK 2012/01/08 16:48:03
    Elaine
    +2
    Thanks Chuck
  • Phil Elaine 2012/01/08 09:15:52
    Phil
    +3
    I carried a folding knife withe me to school for that same reason.
  • Elaine Phil 2012/01/08 16:51:24
    Elaine
    +4
    Kids have to be prepared to defend themselves. I send mine off everyday hoping they do not find themselves in this situation and hoping that if they do they make the right decisions. Bullies do not follow the rules.

    I hope you never had to use your knife but I see why you would carry it.
  • Phil Elaine 2012/01/09 03:31:36
    Phil
    +2
    I never used it no but if i had to defend my life and health I would have. But I was never as cold blooded as those who delighted in terrorizing me.
  • wilsonmja 2012/01/06 21:47:05
    I agree with the decision.
    wilsonmja
    +7
    It's not often that Florida gets something right, but credit where credit is due...
  • Adam Julian 2012/01/06 21:34:01
    I agree with the decision.
    Adam Julian
    +6
    Hearing about this made my day.
  • Chuck 2012/01/06 21:02:29
    I agree with the decision.
    Chuck
    +7
    Way to go kid. If the bullying had been going on for over a year obviously the school's staff didn't plan on stopping it. Just because a bully is underage doesn't mean they're not still assaulting someone, and the person being assaulted has a right to defend themself.
  • Ego Death 2012/01/06 18:31:34
    I do not agree with the decision.
    Ego Death
    +1
    I'd have to read further into it I guess.
  • Anna E 2012/01/06 18:30:04
    I agree with the decision.
    Anna E
    +6
    Self-defense is self-defense.
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