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Filipinos Get Nailed: Are They Making A Mockery Of Jesus?

Million Dollar Man 2010/04/02 16:38:39
Yes, they are making a mockery!  What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suffering, not another person's.
No, they aren't making a mockery! They are expressing their faith with sincerity and are physically suffering for their God.
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Devout Filipinos nailed themselves to crosses in remembrance of Jesus' death this Good Friday. It's an annual tradition in the Philippines, and this year at least 23 people participated despite the Roman Catholic Church's disapproval. Foreigners, who were able to take part in the past, were banned this year except as spectators because some were making a mockery out of the rite.

Of the 90 million population, 80 percent are Roman Catholic. Those that were crucified say that they do it out of reverence for the great things that God has done in their lives. Catholic leaders reject this and say that the real expression of Christian faith is through repentance and self-renewal and that the tradition is superstition done to promote tourism. What do you think? Should this tradition be continued or are they making a mockery of Jesus' suffering?
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  • Sam 2010/04/05 13:26:41
    I think crucifixion...
    Sam
    Wow I have no idea what to think about people doing this kind of thing..... I would not do it.
  • Ron–Born from Above 2010/04/03 19:12:37
    Yes, they are making a mockery! What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suff...
    Ron–Born from Above
    I find this deplorable and cult like! Ignorance of the scriptures can bring about much shame about what Christ did for us.
  • troy82 - Christ is returnin... 2010/04/03 14:24:54
    Yes, they are making a mockery! What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suff...
    troy82 - Christ is returning, Today!
    Luke 9:23 tells us to shoulder out cross daily, just like the when Jesus spoke of the bread a and wine being Hid body and blood, He was speaking in the spiritual sense, not the physical! [ He is present always! ] This is just more bad works done by an entire culture lead astray by the teachings of man that are contrary to God's Word.
  • Hudson Taylor 2010/04/03 12:48:59
    Yes, they are making a mockery! What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suff...
    Hudson Taylor
    When our Lord was crucified, God's plan of Salvation for mankind was revealed. What are these buffoons trying to prove, that being crucified is a picnic? Our Lord took the sins of the world upon Him. Wow! can you imagine that?
  • FREED Jesus is LORD♥ 2010/04/03 12:33:42
    Yes, they are making a mockery! What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suff...
    FREED Jesus is LORD♥
    +5
    This is anti Biblical. Man's futile attempt to reach Go by his works.

    We remember Christs sacrifice when Believers partake of the Lord's Supper

    1Co 11:23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; 1Co 11:24 And giving thanks, He broke it and said, "Take, eat; this is My body, which is broken for you; this do in remembrance of Me." 1 Co 11:25 In the same way He took the cup also, after supping, saying, "This cup is the New Covenant in My blood; as often as you drink it, do this in remembrance of Me." 1Co 11:26 For "as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you show" the Lord's death until He shall come.
    Luke 22:14-20; Mark 14: 22-; Matt 26:26-29

    The sacrifice God requires of the Believer

    Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, pleasing to God, which is your reasonable service.
    Rom 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, in order to prove by you what is that good and pleasing and perfect will of God.

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  • Ron–Bor... FREED J... 2010/04/03 19:13:34
    Ron–Born from Above
    +1
    Amen†
  • Shilo 2010/04/03 03:38:09
    I think crucifixion...
    Shilo
    I can think of much easier ways to mock Christianity than driving nails through my hands/wrists. I'm pretty sure someone would have to be either a real religious zealot or completely insane to do it. In either case, I'm staying out of the way lol.
  • Fishy Freshman 2010/04/03 00:07:55
    No, they aren't making a mockery! They are expressing their faith with sincer...
    Fishy Freshman
    +1
    If that is the way they celebrate their religion over there then let them be. So what if they celebrate it differently from us here in America? My mom's from the Philipines and according to her a lot of people there are very faithful and religous. Let them celebrate the way they belive in, I don't see recall them talking about how we celebrate our Good Friday and Easter...
  • Shilo Fishy F... 2010/04/03 03:39:45
    Shilo
    Are you trying to imply that chocolate egg laying bunnies and marshmallow chickens are a mockery and aren't the true meaning of easter? *Gasp* How dare you!
  • Hudson ... Shilo 2010/04/03 12:52:08
    Hudson Taylor
    Choclate eggs and easter bunnies are an old scandanavian pagan tradition.
  • Shilo Hudson ... 2010/04/03 21:42:10
    Shilo
    I was kidding...lol
  • Fishy F... Shilo 2010/04/03 16:04:57
    Fishy Freshman
    lolz, no
  • Shilo Fishy F... 2010/04/03 21:42:16
    Shilo
    =oP
  • kenna d 2010/04/03 00:07:29
    Yes, they are making a mockery! What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suff...
    kenna d
    ya they should not do that i may not go to church as oftin as i should and i may not read the book all the time but thats still wrong
  • Jenamarial 2010/04/02 23:43:09 (edited)
    I think crucifixion...
    Jenamarial
    +1
    Jesus Christ's suffering paid for them already, there is no need for them to do it themselves. Just living better is all he asks. Them suffering for no purpose is pointless.
  • Bishop 2010/04/02 23:40:38
    I think crucifixion...
    Bishop
    +1
    Theres nothing in the Bible saying this is desirable. In fact it be littles what Christ did because when they get tired of being nailed up there they can simply get down, Christ died, went to hell, and took all our sins with him. Its also said to see that such a high percent of Filipinos population is Catholic.
  • luigi1- in god we trust 2010/04/02 23:16:57 (edited)
    No, they aren't making a mockery! They are expressing their faith with sincer...
    luigi1- in god we trust
    this is an expression of their faith, their suffering, their devotion, their sacrifice.

    love of god, country & family is what binds the philino people. kind of like what america used to be like about 60 years ago.

    may god bless the beutiful people of the republic of philipines. mabuhay.
  • Hudson ... luigi1-... 2010/04/03 12:53:19
    Hudson Taylor
    +1
    You must be joking, mate.
  • luigi1-... Hudson ... 2010/04/03 13:21:17 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    no, mate. the best people in the world. you have to really know them to understand.

    unlike the progressive pc brigade in the west bent on ripping their nations down, the proud people of the philipines take pride in who they are.
  • Cordingly 2010/04/02 23:09:00
    No, they aren't making a mockery! They are expressing their faith with sincer...
    Cordingly
    Interesting article.

    I don't see how this is a slight or mockery of anything to be honest. Though indeed this does sound rather gruesome, the death of Jesus was no picnic either. While one might argue that Jesus went through this so his followers wouldn't have to, there are many a celebration done in his honor that are unnecessary, or that fail to see the point.
  • xscd 2010/04/02 22:54:25
    I think crucifixion...
    xscd
    This voluntary crucifixion is not unique to the Philippines. It was also done here in the U.S. in at least one state, New Mexico, by the "penitente" sect of the Catholic Church. It was outlawed many years ago of course, but the sect apparently continues to exist, and their remote little churches are still maintained by someone. Whatever they do in this vein nowadays, they do in strict secret.
  • Mordecai Jones 2010/04/02 22:50:52
    No, they aren't making a mockery! They are expressing their faith with sincer...
    Mordecai Jones
    If I understood what you wrote it is the foreigners who are making a mockery of the rite.

    From my experience I would suspect that the "foreigners" are anti-Catholic Americans as usual.

    Why should anyone interfere with a private issue just because some foreigners are making a mockery of the issue? There is a simpler solution - kick the foreigners out of the country for acting
  • Cordingly Mordeca... 2010/04/02 23:09:44
    Cordingly
    +1
    ... What?
  • Mordeca... Cordingly 2010/04/03 01:13:50 (edited)
    Mordecai Jones
    Apparently I didn't finish my comment so it really isn't clear.

    Read the text of the article associated with this poll.

    Apparently it is the foreigners who are making a mockery of the rite, not the local Filipinos. I just assumed that the article use of "foreigners" refers to Americans who are generally very disrespectful of religion.

    So my solution to resolve the issue is simple - just kick the foreigners out and the problem of foreigners making a mockery of the rite is solved.
  • Cordingly Mordeca... 2010/04/03 01:21:21
    Cordingly
    +1
    Ah, I was so confused for a minute.

    "They're in their own country! What is he saying?"
  • Mordeca... Cordingly 2010/04/03 01:52:25
    Mordecai Jones
    +1
    That was my error in not finishing my comment - I was called away.
  • l125 2010/04/02 22:40:27
    I think crucifixion...
    l125
    it depends on wat they think crucifixion depends wat
  • James 2010/04/02 22:21:01
    Yes, they are making a mockery! What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suff...
    James
    They may not intentionally be trying to make a mockery but they are. For nobody but Jesus can bring Salvation to The World. And for a human being to put himself on a cross even if the intents are good is blaspheming God. For the Soul purpose and representation of the crucifiction was to show people That God Himself Loved His Creation So Much That He Himself Was Willing To Die In Our Place So That We Can Be Forgiven Of Our Sins.



  • amazinggrace 2010/04/02 22:17:07
    I think crucifixion...
    amazinggrace
    +4
    I don't know what is in their hearts, but their actions are pointless and futile. God does not require us to crucify ourselves to be redeemed.
  • words to live by 2010/04/02 21:42:48 (edited)
    I think crucifixion...
    words to live by
    +1
    Have you ever really looked at a Dogwood trees petals. This tree was once a strong tree that the Romans Soliders used to make crosses. To mock the crucifixion is not right.. Jesus isn't on the tree. He sits at the right hand side of his Father... romans soliders crosses mock crucifixion mockery jesus tree hand father
  • knowerseeker 2010/04/02 21:37:15
    I think crucifixion...
    knowerseeker
    +1
    It's hard to say. I guess it all depends on what is in their hearts.
  • Larson Whipsnade 2010/04/02 21:37:08
    I think crucifixion...
    Larson Whipsnade
    +2
    I'm undecided. On the one hand, there is no need for this, because Jesus took the punishment for sin upon himself, so that we would not have to pay for our own sins with eternal death. God does not ask that we suffer in this way. On the other hand, it would take a real devout follower to put himself through this- someone who truly wanted to know what the Lord did for him, so I won't call it wrong, either.
  • The Lorax 2010/04/02 21:35:22
    No, they aren't making a mockery! They are expressing their faith with sincer...
    The Lorax
    +1
    There are numerous examples in our own culture of people taking things too literally. Seems wholly unnecessary to me as a Christian, but such body modification rituals have been practiced around the world in one form or another (not exclusively with Christians).
  • nakerj 2010/04/02 21:15:50 (edited)
    I think crucifixion...
    nakerj
    +2
    well, if you study history, Jesus isnt the only person to ever be crucified ... in fact two other people were crucified at the same time as Jesus ... right on either side of him ... imagine that ... so if these people want to nail themselves to a tree ... go for it ... but why don't they go all the way with it? I noticed they don't whip themselves half to death, hammer a crown a thorns into their skulls and drive nails into their hands... they use a horse-shoe type nail... hmm... cheaters imo...

    besides... the Catholic church is all going to hell anyways... may as well be nailed to a cross when they do it ... more fuel for the fire ...
  • G 2010/04/02 21:15:16
    I think crucifixion...
    G
    How do you annually crucify yourself? I would think once is it.
  • Yog 2010/04/02 21:13:45
    No, they aren't making a mockery! They are expressing their faith with sincer...
    Yog
    Well Jesus did say to pick up your cross and follow him.....but he was talking figuratively.
    I see no harm. Not really that weird when you compare it to communion, where you're supposed to be literally eating Jesus's flesh and drinking his blood.
  • johndoe 2010/04/02 21:13:30 (edited)
    Yes, they are making a mockery! What makes Good Friday sacred is Jesus' suff...
    johndoe
    +1
    wow they actually NAIL themselves?



    If they want to suffer in the same way the bible describes Jesus suffering, as a way to show their devotion to their faith, then I say "go ahead" that is their right.



    As long as no one is seriously injured in the process.

    edit: but by right, the nails should be going through the wrists not the hands
  • Megan ~ PHAET 2010/04/02 20:38:49
  • MUGEN :: 無限 2010/04/02 20:38:43 (edited)
    I think crucifixion...
    MUGEN :: 無限
    +2
    Filipinos are obviously not aware of beauty of today's world.



    Welcome to the 21st century:



    crucifixion filipinos christianity 21st century

    filipinos aware beauty world 21st century
  • Yog MUGEN :... 2010/04/02 21:15:37
    Yog
    +1
    Ooooh, Thats bad! But funny. Dunno whether to shake my fist or double over in laughter!

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