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Facebook Co-Founder may not be allowed back in the U.S. Is this fair or overkill?

Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2012/05/18 14:24:12
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Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin might not be allowed to return to the United States.



Billionaire Saverin, who ditched his U.S. citizenship ahead of Facebook's mega IPO, is said to own a 4 or 5 percent stake in the social network. Bloomberg reported last week that he is moving to Singapore, possibly to slash taxes he might owe the U.S. government.



According to a U.S. immigration law highlighted by Talking Points Memo (TPM), Saverin might face difficulty re-entering the country due to the timing of his expatriation. From Sec. 212. [8 U.S.C. 1182] of the law, per TPM:



Former citizens who renounced citizenship to avoid
taxation.-Any alien who is a former citizen of the United States who
officially renounces United States citizenship and who is determined by
the Attorney General to have renounced United States citizenship for the
purpose of avoiding taxation by the United States is excludable


Facebook is seeking to raise as much as $18 billion
in it what is expected to be the largest Internet IPO ever. Based on a
regulatory filing the social network submitted to the Securities and
Exchange Commission on May 16, the stock's planned price range is
currently between $34 and $38 dollars per share; the company may be valued as high as $104 billion as a result. Bloomberg reports that Saverin likely saved himself $67 million in federal income taxes on his shares; the Times pegs his savings at $100 million or more.

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  • Flowers 2012/05/18 15:24:15
    Overkill
    Flowers
    +4
    I don't agree with his motives to renounce citizenship. I don't agree with the obscure tax laws that we as a society are burdened with, that make people do unethical things to avoid. And, I don't agree with the government acting like spoiled brats when those tax loopholes are used by someone other than themselves. If we had more rational tax laws, he probably wouldn't have done it in the first place. Preventing him from coming to the USA simply because he used THEIR OWN LAWS AGAINST THEM is childish. IMO. In this age of Remotely accessing a computer from across the world, virtual conferences and video chats, I doubt it will make much difference to his stake in the company.

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  • Hula girl - Friends not Fol... 2012/05/18 22:16:20
    Overkill
    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    +1
    Sounds like Russia
  • Assassi... Hula gi... 2012/05/19 22:32:41
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +1
    It does a little.
  • Met 2012/05/18 18:48:01
    Fair
    Met
    +1
    He renounced his citizenship...

    Illegal aliens milking money out of our economy is a serious problem in America... Good riddance.
  • Brian ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/05/18 17:08:40
    Fair
    Brian ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    I believe it's a combination of both. As with everything else the government does, it's akin to swatting a fly with a sledge hammer.
  • JohnT 2012/05/18 16:46:39
    Overkill
    JohnT
    +2
    Their just mad because he took his tax dollars someplace else. Too bad so sad.
  • Heptarch 2012/05/18 16:36:21
    Fair
    Heptarch
    +2
    Hey, he's the one who decided to screw over the US come tax time.
  • Cal 2012/05/18 16:03:37
    Fair
    Cal
    +2
    It was his choice to leave. He brought it on himself.
  • HarleyCharley 2012/05/18 15:37:05
    Fair
    HarleyCharley
    +2
    can't have it both ways...
  • kitkat42 2012/05/18 15:29:31
    Fair
    kitkat42
    +2
    He doesn't deserve to be allowed back in. I hope he enjoys his new life, somewhere else! Good riddance!
  • Dagon 2012/05/18 15:27:43
  • Assassi... Dagon 2012/05/18 16:28:55
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +1
    I agree.
  • Flowers 2012/05/18 15:24:15
    Overkill
    Flowers
    +4
    I don't agree with his motives to renounce citizenship. I don't agree with the obscure tax laws that we as a society are burdened with, that make people do unethical things to avoid. And, I don't agree with the government acting like spoiled brats when those tax loopholes are used by someone other than themselves. If we had more rational tax laws, he probably wouldn't have done it in the first place. Preventing him from coming to the USA simply because he used THEIR OWN LAWS AGAINST THEM is childish. IMO. In this age of Remotely accessing a computer from across the world, virtual conferences and video chats, I doubt it will make much difference to his stake in the company.
  • the_old_coach 2012/05/18 15:24:00
    Fair
    the_old_coach
    +2
    He would renounce his American citizenship in order not to have to pay taxes into the country that provided him the opportunity to make his money. Well, I don't like that. There are over 3,000 1 %ers/year doing exactly that same thing right now. They can all stay over there for all I care. They'll still be rich but they won't be here.

    Rich or poor, I'm proud of my heritage. I'm PROUD to be an AMERICAN.

    proud american
  • Met the_old... 2012/05/18 18:50:00
    Met
    +1
    We've been making rich people in this country for centuries, let them leave, we'll make more of them tomorrow.
  • w2xad 2012/05/18 15:16:49
    Fair
    w2xad
    +2
    Screw him and the rest of the companies who make there money here and JUMP SHIP so we can pay THEIR taxes.
  • jacktown kid 2012/05/18 15:13:29
    Fair
    jacktown kid
    +1
    Stick around don't leave
  • BrianD3 2012/05/18 14:42:16
    Fair
    BrianD3
    +3
    he wants to take advantage of legal loopholes then he has to deal with the legal consequences
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2012/05/18 14:34:03
    Fair
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +2
    The law existed before Saverin made his move. Too bad for you, Eddie.
  • BrianD3 FAWKES'... 2012/05/18 14:41:15
    BrianD3
    +2
    damn, we agree on something. The world must be coming to an end....
  • Assassi... FAWKES'... 2012/05/18 14:42:13
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    No, they are talking about creating a new law. The old law has never been enforced.
  • BrianD3 Assassi... 2012/05/18 14:44:20
    BrianD3
    +1
    sounds like he is taking advantage of a legal loophole. He cant have it both ways. If his obscure loophole is all good, then this law is fine no matter if it is currently enforced or not.
  • Assassi... BrianD3 2012/05/18 14:47:27
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +2
    We should eliminate the loophole, not punish Saverin for doing something legal. As for that, a record number of wealthy citizens are renouncing citizenship, due to overwhelming restrictions on investing.
  • BrianD3 Assassi... 2012/05/18 14:49:01
    BrianD3
    +1
    and Obama wants to jack up their tax liability, how do you think that is going to work out?
  • Assassi... BrianD3 2012/05/18 14:50:12
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    Thats what I am saying. I am surprised at all the conservatives who think Saverin should be punished.
  • BrianD3 Assassi... 2012/05/18 14:56:46
    BrianD3
    +1
    conservative generally respect the law and believe in equity and fairness. I pay my taxes, I hope you pay your taxes and this turncoat ought to pay as well.



    I do not believe in a progressive tax system, I don't think the wealthy should be punished just for being successful but, dodgers and cheats deserve no sympathy.
  • Assassi... BrianD3 2012/05/18 15:14:31
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    I do pay my taxes, but he says that because of restrictions on investing, many banks have chosen to drop U.S customers, and even if you live abroad you pay income tax on income NOT EARNED in the U.S.

    I don't see how it is fair that income earned outside the U.S. is taxable by the U.S.

    I agree everyone should pay their fair share, but the tax codes should not have such loopholes.
  • Met Assassi... 2012/05/18 18:53:15
    Met
    How quickly all that patriotic rhetoric melts away when a dollar is involved.

    pathetic. 65% of a billion dollars still sounds a hell of a lot better than 90% of 20k.
  • Met Assassi... 2012/05/18 18:51:36
    Met
    We've been making rich people in this country for centuries. Let them leave, we'll make more tomorrow.

    If you don't want skin in the game, gtfo.
  • Assassi... Met 2012/05/19 22:33:50
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    Great idea. *sarcasm
  • Met Assassi... 2012/05/20 02:55:14 (edited)
    Met
    +1
    Statistically speaking... Yep it is.

    There was a time in this country when we didn't care too much for traitors. I guess now-a-days some of us idolize them... How fast that patriotic rhetoric goes out the window when a dollar is involved.

    Nice.

    America is responsible for his success. He doesn't want to pay for it now that he's made it big, again, get the FCK out.
  • BrianD3 Met 2012/05/25 16:43:12
    BrianD3
    and stay out
  • FAWKES'... Assassi... 2012/05/18 15:00:45
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    Are you implying that any law that has not been enforced ceases to exist?
  • Assassi... FAWKES'... 2012/05/18 15:16:13
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    No of course not. I am saying that is is unfair to suddenly decide to enforce a law because one took advantage of an existing loophole in the law. Skirting the law is done all the time and proving a case against one with the money and connections of Saverin might be more time consuming and finacially impossible. He could get it delayed almost indefinitely.

    Plus Now they would have to extradite him from Singapore.

    I think that it is unlikely that the application of this law is likely to stick.
  • zbacku 2012/05/18 14:31:42
    Fair
    zbacku
    +2
    He renounced his citizenship to by pass paying his 'fair share', I would think all Liberals would demand that he be kept out.
  • User Deactivated 2012/05/18 14:28:33
    Fair
    User Deactivated
    +3
    He wanted to jump ship just to get out of paying what he owed, why should he be let back in?
  • Cuppajo 2012/05/18 14:27:02
    Overkill
    Cuppajo
    +3
    There's your proof the government wants to steal your money.

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