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'Fab 5' Doc: Are Black Basketball Players at Duke 'Uncle Toms'?

SodaHead Sports 2011/03/23 19:00:00
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The colorful history of Michigan’s legendary “fab five” – Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Chris Webber, Jimmy King and Ray Jackson – which included allegations of illegal booster payments, laundering of illegal gambling money by the players and a two-year probation for the school’s program, is the rotten gift that keeps on giving.

The latest flagrant foul came on Sunday in the form of the ESPN documentary “The Fab Five,” which was executive produced by Rose and featured his allegations that rival school Duke only recruited black players he considered to be “Uncle Toms.”

In essence, Rose slams players like Grant Hill, whose Duke team beat Michigan in the 1992 Final Four, for choosing to go to a fancy, schmancy white school with a stellar educational reputation.

Hill wrote an impassioned response to the comments for The New York Times, in which he lamented Rose’s allegations.

“I am a fan, friend and longtime competitor of the Fab Five,” he wrote. “I have competed against Jalen Rose and Chris Webber since the age of 13. At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a cultural phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way.”

He called it a “sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events” to see his friends narrating the film and calling “me a b---- and worse, calling all black players at Duke ‘Uncle Toms’ and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me.”

Hill said he should have suspected something was up when Rose sent a Twitter apology before the film’s premiere and Rose has since attempted to explain his remarks in numerous interviews.

“In his garbled but sweeping comment that Duke recruits only ‘black players that were ‘Uncle Toms,’ Jalen seems to change the usual meaning of those very vitriolic words into his own meaning, i.e., blacks from two-parent, middle-class families. He leaves us all guessing exactly what he believes today," Hill wrote.

Hill counted himself fortunate to have two parents who’ve worked into their 60s and who received a great education and taught him a work ethic he is passing on to his children.

“To hint that those who grew up in a household with a mother and father are somehow less black than those who did not is beyond ridiculous,” wrote the Phoenix Suns star. “This is part of our great tradition as black Americans... I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back then for their appearance and swagger. I wish for you the restoration of the bond that made you friends, brothers and icons.”

Do you think black basketball players at Duke are "Uncle Toms"?

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  • Shigyrl but outspoken on my... 2011/03/24 02:22:51 (edited)
    No
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    +9
    As young fans my brother and I had the opportunity to meet the players of that wonderful 1992 team. During one of our many visits to our Uncles home in Durham,NC. As he was a professor of law at Duke and an avid fan. The guys were some of the nicest people you could meet. They played for a coach that has high standards on and off the court. Now I understand that losing that game left a bitter taste in the mouths of Rose and Webber. No one told Webber to call a time out when they had none. So talking trash about players who are in college not only to play ball but to get an education. Makes Rose look like a fool.

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  • m.a.copeland 2011/03/29 06:12:45
    No
    m.a.copeland
    I've heard this accusation misused and abused my whole life to the point that it has no shock effect anymore, so why use it ?
  • Treedy 2011/03/24 20:20:02
    No
    Treedy
    I think what we have here is the rantings of a bitter man.
  • too1dah 2011/03/24 18:48:02
    No
    too1dah
    That's ridiculous. Why has anyone even taken that comment seriously to begin with? And maybe I'm mistaken, but when I read the book, Uncle Tom wasn't well-educated and middleclass. So I don't get that analogy. And yes, I am bias towards anything Duke, because for me that school epitomizes quality...academically, socially, and economically without regards to race. Anyone offended just shouldn't wear their shirt.
  • dave aka lambsev 2011/03/24 18:16:17
    Undecided
    dave aka lambsev
    +2
    Most people have no idea who Uncle Tom was. He was a fictional slave from H.B. Stowe's novel Uncle Tom's Cabin. Just what was Tom guilty of? I suppose he did ordinary labors for his masters. BUT he also refused some orders of his last master Simon Legree. Wikipedia writes:

    "Tom refuses Legree's order to whip his fellow slave. Legree beats Tom viciously, and resolves to crush his new slave's faith in God. Despite Legree's cruelty, however, Tom refuses to stop reading his Bible and comforting the other slaves as best he can. Tom (also) refuses to tell Legree where Cassy and Emmeline (escaped slaves) have gone, Legree orders his overseers to kill Tom. As Tom is dying, he forgives the overseers who savagely beat him. Humbled by the character of the man they have killed, both men become Christians."

    See the movie if you don't have time to read the book. Tom was a devout christian slave. Why is he held in such low regard by black people today. I don't know! In many ways his humility is a perfect light exposing the hubris of black power political demagoguery. Uncle Tom certainly has little to no connection to sports or gambling.
  • sabbatha dave ak... 2011/03/24 19:41:02
    sabbatha
    Nobody reads anymore. :(

    Great answer though!
  • dave ak... sabbatha 2011/04/05 18:38:26
    dave aka lambsev
    +1
    TY. I don't read enough these days either...
  • nykmgr 2011/03/24 17:57:41
    Undecided
    nykmgr
    It depends on their names and if they have nieces and nephews...
  • TombstoneJim 2011/03/24 17:31:59
    No
    TombstoneJim
    +1
    You racist pig for even asking this question. A black man attends a really great school on a full scholarship and all you can think of is - is he being faithful to his race?

    Move on - this is 2012....not 1912....shish
  • Donny Tombsto... 2011/03/24 20:49:34
    Donny
    Racist pig????? Wow. don´t you just love liberal tolerance.
    Although, having said that, I love pigs. They are a whole lot better than liberals anyways. LOL.
  • DDogbreath 2011/03/24 17:31:57
    Undecided
    DDogbreath
    +1
    I don't care what they are. I just want to see the U of A Wildcats beat them in the NCAA playoffs today!
    care wildcats beat ncaa playoffs
  • ♥Wild@H... DDogbreath 2011/03/24 18:49:33
    ♥Wild@Heart♥
    +1
    Go Cats Go!

    cats U of A wildcats
  • too1dah DDogbreath 2011/03/24 18:49:55
    too1dah
    +1
    Now that's what I'm talking about. Some good old-fashioned sports rivalry. Let the games begin!
  • DDogbreath too1dah 2011/03/25 05:17:50
    DDogbreath
    YES! ARIZONA 93 Duke 77 GO WILDCATS!
  • goinpostal 2011/03/24 17:09:14
    No
    goinpostal
    dumb question
  • relic 2011/03/24 16:56:45
    Yes
    relic
    Oh yeah, let's call all successful Blacks Uncle Toms. (What idiot put this question up for a vote?)
  • J 2011/03/24 16:21:45
    No
    J
    That's the way to do it Rose. When you have a man from your race do well and provide for and teach his family, you slam him.

    I worked with a black lady once who had two girls - about the age of my youngest daughter. She worked TWO jobs. She didn't sit with the others "blacks" in the office. And because she wanted her kids to get a good education (in a private school) and because she wouldn't play the "victim" she was called a "whitey" and yes, and Uncle Tom.

    It saddens me to think that when a person of color tries to be responsible and decent, they get degraded by those in their own race for "selling out." Wouldn't it be better if we could all be self-reliant, responsible, and of good character?
  • Diana J 2011/03/24 16:32:20
    Diana
    +1
    you forgot Oreo I get that a lot as well. I guess being raised well is a white thing...fml
  • J Diana 2011/03/24 16:45:02
    J
    +1
    It shouldn't be. It should be an AMERICAN thing. Something all parents (espically) should strive for.
  • Diana J 2011/03/24 16:46:02
    Diana
    +1
    agreed
  • DANNY_B0i♛ 2011/03/24 16:21:43
    No
    DANNY_B0i♛
    Well thats not a racist question or anything?
  • BobJessen 2011/03/24 16:18:45
    Undecided
    BobJessen
    Are Toms at Duke Black?!.....Are Black Dukes Toms!?
  • tony 2011/03/24 16:15:29
    No
    tony
    +1
    of course they're pissed didn't the uncle toms and the white guys at duke kick their asses?
  • I don't care 2011/03/24 16:04:41
  • rabbit I don't... 2011/03/24 16:15:26
    rabbit
    This tells nothing......
  • John 2011/03/24 15:54:27
    No
    John
    +1
    The Fab 5 are just pissed because they lost to North Carolina and Duke and could not win a championships thought that they were God's gift to basketball. Soar losers. Most of them turned out to be nothing in the NBA. Duke recruits players who will play a team game, get an education, and listen to the coaches instead of acting like premodonas. Duke has learned to be the best team in the past 20 years and although it doesn't produce many NBA calliber players, these players can actually go out in the world and get a job, unlike most of the universities which graduate these hot shot players who can bearly read and write and articulate the English languate. Most of these players who get rejected by the NBA wind up as Janitors, Laborers, and even homeless because they failed to get an education.
  • Michael 2011/03/24 15:38:30
    No
    Michael
    +1
    So they're trying to better themselves and that makes them Uncle Toms?
  • USAISME 2011/03/24 15:28:14
    No
    USAISME
    Uncle Toms????? I didn't think that the term even existed anymore. We are no longer in the stone-age. The term no longer has a fit in society.
  • BobJessen USAISME 2011/03/24 16:21:53
    BobJessen
    Where's Uncle Remus when We Need 'im!?
  • USAISME BobJessen 2011/03/24 18:18:44
  • Theodon 2011/03/24 15:25:25
    No
    Theodon
    +2
    with attitudes like those of the 'fab five' blacks don't have to sweat 'the man' keeping them down

    blacks will keep themselves down

    its a crying shame what members of this race do to their race
  • Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2011/03/24 15:20:24
    No
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    LOL!!!! How stupid. Because they wanted to get a great education and play for one of the best basketball programs in the country they were uncle Toms...LOL...its mentality like that, that hurts black people.
  • Rick 2011/03/24 15:18:12
    No
    Rick
    +1
    Of course not. Who told these people that being intelligent was only for white people? Sounds like just a way for White Liberals to keep them in line. Some things never change.
  • President Camacho 2011/03/24 15:06:23
    No
    President Camacho
    +3
    This is why black children grow up poor and ignorant. This fits right in with the democrat party view on black people.
  • bruce b... Preside... 2011/03/24 16:33:05
    bruce banner
    what black children grow up poor and ignorant?
  • Preside... bruce b... 2011/03/24 20:42:24
    President Camacho
    a majority of those in heavily democratic poor urban areas.
  • bruce b... Preside... 2011/03/25 14:00:17
    bruce banner
    and that's only black kids?
  • Preside... bruce b... 2011/03/25 23:08:09
    President Camacho
    unfortunately, they have been the hardest hit.
  • bruce b... Preside... 2011/03/27 23:39:12
    bruce banner
    not true at all
  • Preside... bruce b... 2011/03/28 12:49:32
    President Camacho
    really? So the inner city black community is flourishing? LOL - you're blind.
  • bruce b... Preside... 2011/03/28 19:22:45
    bruce banner
    no, you're blind. what community is flourishing? the outer city white community? you're laughing out loud? for what?

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