NOTE: Graphic images of Obama's mother Stanley Ann D. in some 1960's porn magazines.Throughout images are partly edited.They are still may be offensive to some.Don't say I didn't warn you!
Obama .............................Frank Marshal Davis

Barack Obama Sr. had other son by another American women he later meet at Harvard.Goes by the name Mark Ndesandjo.Currently works and lives in China.

Do you think Obama's "half-brother" Mark Ndesandjo resembles Barack H. Obama?
EDIT:
I see vast differences in their facial structure for them to be related to each other.And if their DNA was compared with each other.I believe that DNA would rule out that they had the same father! For further information about the movie ""Dreams From My Real Father" go to the official movie website:
http://obamasrealfather.com/The DVD is now for sale online for $18.95 ($14.95 + $4 shipping)
http://www.obamasrealfather.com/buy-dvd/
The point of contention is your LIE that "Dreams" states that his mother met Davis. Prove it with the page and paragraph quote that substantiates your claim. Stop tap-dancing, LIAR!
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Barack Obama's friend Frank Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words. In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is: This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced) "Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some compl...
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Barack Obama's friend Frank Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words. In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is: This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced) "Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand..."
(like whenever Gramps took him to a bar in the red light district. "Don't tell your grandmother")
pg88 - A black man had asked his grandmother for money "He was very aggressive, Barry. Very aggressive. I gave him a dollar and he kept asking. If the bus had not come, I think he might have hit me over the head." Barry wonders why Gramps doesn't want to drive her to work. Gramps says "...It is a big deal. She's been bothered by men before. You know why she's so scared this time? I'll tell you why.." (because he was black) "And I just don't think it's right" Barry - "The words were like a fist in my stomach..". Pg89 "Never had they given me reason to doubt their love...."
Barry that night drives to Waikiki, visits Frank. He told Frank the story I summarized above. Frank says he and Stanley (Gramps) grew up about 50 miles apart. They didn't know each other.
Frank: "What I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma' right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not . So you might as well get used to it."
Barry's thoughts: "The earth shook under my feet, ready to crack at any moment. I stopped, trying to steady myself, and knew for the first time I was utterly alone."
pg 97 - "What had Frank called college? An advanced degree in compromise. I thought back to the last time I had seen the old poet.... (page long narrative with his previous conversations with Frank on the value of college)
pg 98 - "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Panther dashiki self. In some ways he was incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."
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"Dreams" itself is posted at http://issuu.com/xinyangge/do... , so you can verify the accuracy of the extracts.
Exactly where did Obama say anything about his mother meeting Davis?
"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." - Albert Einstein
THAT was the point of contention! Now, since it seems that you have finally accepted the truth that it does NOT, the remaining issue is WHY were you so insistent that it does.
Would you care to explain?
"The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth." - Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
Bet whatever you want, but follow the evidence. According to "Dreams," Obama met Davis through his grandfather while his mother was in Indonesia. There is NO meeting between Davis and his mother.
"Truth is generally the best vindication against slander." - Abraham Lincoln
Evidently you were unaware that his mother sent Obama back to Hawaii to live with her parents (his grandparents). The "common sense fact" is that she did not meet his friends in Hawaii because she was THOUSANDS of miles away!
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)
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Barack Obama's friend Frank
Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father
By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words.
In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is:
This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced)
"Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were wit...
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Barack Obama's friend Frank
Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father
By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words.
In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is:
This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced)
"Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand..."
(like whenever Gramps took him to a bar in the red light district. "Don't tell your grandmother")
pg88 - A black man had asked his grandmother for money "He was very aggressive, Barry. Very aggressive. I gave him a dollar and he kept asking. If the bus had not come, I think he might have hit me over the head."
Barry wonders why Gramps doesn't want to drive her to work. Gramps says "...It is a big deal. She's been bothered by men before. You know why she's so scared this time? I'll tell you why.." (because he was black) "And I just don't think it's right"
Barry - "The words were like a fist in my stomach..". Pg89 "Never had they given me reason to doubt their love...."
Barry that night drives to Waikiki, visits Frank. He told Frank the story I summarized above.
Frank says he and Stanley (Gramps) grew up about 50 miles apart. They didn't know each other.
Frank: "What I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma' right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not . So you might as well get used to it."
Barry's thoughts: "The earth shook under my feet, ready to crack at any moment. I stopped, trying to steady myself, and knew for the first time I was utterly alone."
pg 97 - "What had Frank called college? An advanced degree in compromise. I thought back to the last time I had seen the old poet....
(page long narrative with his previous conversations with Frank on the value of college)
pg 98 - "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Panther dashiki self. In some ways he was incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."
[END QUOTE http://cletuswilbury.newsvine... ]
"Dreams" itself is posted at http://issuu.com/xinyangge/do... , so you can verify the accuracy of the extracts.
Once again, LIAR, exactly where did Obama say anything about his mother meeting Davis?
"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." - Albert Einstein
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Barack Obama's friend Frank Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words. In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is: This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced) "Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if...
[QUOTE]
Barack Obama's friend Frank Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words. In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is: This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced) "Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand..."
(like whenever Gramps took him to a bar in the red light district. "Don't tell your grandmother")
pg88 - A black man had asked his grandmother for money "He was very aggressive, Barry. Very aggressive. I gave him a dollar and he kept asking. If the bus had not come, I think he might have hit me over the head." Barry wonders why Gramps doesn't want to drive her to work. Gramps says "...It is a big deal. She's been bothered by men before. You know why she's so scared this time? I'll tell you why.." (because he was black) "And I just don't think it's right" Barry - "The words were like a fist in my stomach..". Pg89 "Never had they given me reason to doubt their love...."
Barry that night drives to Waikiki, visits Frank. He told Frank the story I summarized above. Frank says he and Stanley (Gramps) grew up about 50 miles apart. They didn't know each other.
Frank: "What I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma' right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not . So you might as well get used to it."
Barry's thoughts: "The earth shook under my feet, ready to crack at any moment. I stopped, trying to steady myself, and knew for the first time I was utterly alone."
pg 97 - "What had Frank called college? An advanced degree in compromise. I thought back to the last time I had seen the old poet.... (page long narrative with his previous conversations with Frank on the value of college)
pg 98 - "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Panther dashiki self. In some ways he was incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."
[END QUOTE http://cletuswilbury.newsvine... ]
"Dreams" itself is posted at http://issuu.com/xinyangge/do... , so you can verify the accuracy of the extracts.
Exactly where did Obama say anything about his mother meeting Davis?
"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." - Albert Einstein
I stand by my statements, so it should be easy for you to QUOTE the most obvious "lies"! No tap-dancing!
So throw his own words back in his face. He has to substantiate his claim you are a liar, or shut up.
The point of contention is the LIE that Obama's mother was intimate with Davis. They never even met, according to "Dreams."
"Truth is generally the best vindication against slander." - Abraham Lincoln
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Barack Obama's friend Frank
Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father
By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words.
In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is:
This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced)
"Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were wit...
[QUOTE]
Barack Obama's friend Frank
Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father
By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words.
In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is:
This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced)
"Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand..."
(like whenever Gramps took him to a bar in the red light district. "Don't tell your grandmother")
pg88 - A black man had asked his grandmother for money "He was very aggressive, Barry. Very aggressive. I gave him a dollar and he kept asking. If the bus had not come, I think he might have hit me over the head."
Barry wonders why Gramps doesn't want to drive her to work. Gramps says "...It is a big deal. She's been bothered by men before. You know why she's so scared this time? I'll tell you why.." (because he was black) "And I just don't think it's right"
Barry - "The words were like a fist in my stomach..". Pg89 "Never had they given me reason to doubt their love...."
Barry that night drives to Waikiki, visits Frank. He told Frank the story I summarized above.
Frank says he and Stanley (Gramps) grew up about 50 miles apart. They didn't know each other.
Frank: "What I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma' right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not . So you might as well get used to it."
Barry's thoughts: "The earth shook under my feet, ready to crack at any moment. I stopped, trying to steady myself, and knew for the first time I was utterly alone."
pg 97 - "What had Frank called college? An advanced degree in compromise. I thought back to the last time I had seen the old poet....
(page long narrative with his previous conversations with Frank on the value of college)
pg 98 - "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Panther dashiki self. In some ways he was incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."
[END QUOTE http://cletuswilbury.newsvine... ]
"Dreams" itself is posted at http://issuu.com/xinyangge/do... , so you can verify the accuracy of the extracts.
Once again, LIAR, exactly where did Obama say anything about his mother meeting Davis?
"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." - Albert Einstein
[QUOTE]
Barack Obama's friend Frank
Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father
By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words.
In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is:
This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced)
"Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were wit...
[QUOTE]
Barack Obama's friend Frank
Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT.politics, obama, frank, marxist, dreams-from-my-father
By Cletus Wilbury
Some says "Frank" was like a father to Barack, or some such words.
In the attempt to find out what the evidence of this is:
This is what I've found so far from Dreams from my Father, scanning for Franks name.
pg76 - (Frank is introduced)
"Gramps had a number of black male friends, mostly poker and bridge partners... i would let him drag me along to some of these games."...
(They didn't talk much to Barry)
"There was one exception, a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki. He must have enjoyed some modest notoriety once,...But by the time he met Frank he must have been pushing eighty...
He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an empty jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help composing dirty limericks. Eventually the conversation would turn towards laments about women."
"They'll drive you to drink, boy", Frank would tell me.... The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand..."
(like whenever Gramps took him to a bar in the red light district. "Don't tell your grandmother")
pg88 - A black man had asked his grandmother for money "He was very aggressive, Barry. Very aggressive. I gave him a dollar and he kept asking. If the bus had not come, I think he might have hit me over the head."
Barry wonders why Gramps doesn't want to drive her to work. Gramps says "...It is a big deal. She's been bothered by men before. You know why she's so scared this time? I'll tell you why.." (because he was black) "And I just don't think it's right"
Barry - "The words were like a fist in my stomach..". Pg89 "Never had they given me reason to doubt their love...."
Barry that night drives to Waikiki, visits Frank. He told Frank the story I summarized above.
Frank says he and Stanley (Gramps) grew up about 50 miles apart. They didn't know each other.
Frank: "What I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma' right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not . So you might as well get used to it."
Barry's thoughts: "The earth shook under my feet, ready to crack at any moment. I stopped, trying to steady myself, and knew for the first time I was utterly alone."
pg 97 - "What had Frank called college? An advanced degree in compromise. I thought back to the last time I had seen the old poet....
(page long narrative with his previous conversations with Frank on the value of college)
pg 98 - "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Panther dashiki self. In some ways he was incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."
[END QUOTE http://cletuswilbury.newsvine... ]
"Dreams" itself is posted at http://issuu.com/xinyangge/do... , so you can verify the accuracy of the extracts.
Once again, LIAR, exactly where did Obama say anything about his mother meeting Davis?
"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." - Albert Einstein
BTW: There's no doubt that he got high in high school, but that is irrelevant to the point of contention.
"Truth is generally the best vindication against slander." - Abraham Lincoln
http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
Just answering your request for proof of his contention!
Stop LYING and tap-dancing. PROVE your claim by quoting the page and paragraph where Obama's mother meets Davis.
"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." - Albert Einstein