Explaining Socialism To A Liberal, or Dumb Progressive, whatever suits you.Why is 0bama still campaigning? This is what socialist, communist, and Marxist do. It's all about continuing the campaign, continue the indoctrination, and continue the revolution. You libs don't even know, or care to know what socialist, communist, and Marxist means. If you did know or care, well, a good example is what Mr Communist puts up as a blog, so he must not know what it means either. Again, what does it matter what we say it is, fact of the matter is YOU DON'T CARE WHAT IT MEANS. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT TAX INCREASES, BECAUSE YOU DON'T PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SO WHO CARES WHAT 0BAMA DOES, AS LONG AS YOU GET YOUR FREE STUFF. Let's take a peek, and maybe you libs will do a little research on your own, and you just may find out that 0bama was a member of the socialist New Party in the 1990s, and sought its endorsement for the Illinois Senate. However, the best way to describe 0bama is here: 10 Conditions For Transition To Communism, or FORWARD....LOL
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralisation of credit in...
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralisation of credit in...
Explaining Socialism To A Liberal, or Dumb Progressive, whatever suits you.Why is 0bama still campaigning? This is what socialist, communist, and Marxist do. It's all about continuing the campaign, continue the indoctrination, and continue the revolution. You libs don't even know, or care to know what socialist, communist, and Marxist means. If you did know or care, well, a good example is what Mr Communist puts up as a blog, so he must not know what it means either. Again, what does it matter what we say it is, fact of the matter is YOU DON'T CARE WHAT IT MEANS. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT TAX INCREASES, BECAUSE YOU DON'T PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SO WHO CARES WHAT 0BAMA DOES, AS LONG AS YOU GET YOUR FREE STUFF. Let's take a peek, and maybe you libs will do a little research on your own, and you just may find out that 0bama was a member of the socialist New Party in the 1990s, and sought its endorsement for the Illinois Senate. However, the best way to describe 0bama is here: 10 Conditions For Transition To Communism, or FORWARD....LOL
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Really, do you libs really care? Hell no, you only think of your greedy selves, and fu-- everything else. You will suffer soon for your greed where you won't be able to afford food once the new regulations by the EPA kick in, meaning your utilities will double, and maybe triple by the year 2014. FACT-How can you keep a tax cut when the prices of everything else sky rockets? LOL. Ask yourselves that, LOL. The argument cannot be broken. Oh, you can insult me all you want, I don't care, fact of the matter is, it will not change the suffering that is going to happen to you for re-electing this SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, and MARXIST 0bama.
(more)Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Really, do you libs really care? Hell no, you only think of your greedy selves, and fu-- everything else. You will suffer soon for your greed where you won't be able to afford food once the new regulations by the EPA kick in, meaning your utilities will double, and maybe triple by the year 2014. FACT-How can you keep a tax cut when the prices of everything else sky rockets? LOL. Ask yourselves that, LOL. The argument cannot be broken. Oh, you can insult me all you want, I don't care, fact of the matter is, it will not change the suffering that is going to happen to you for re-electing this SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, and MARXIST 0bama.





















noun.
1. political system of communal ownership: a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles
2. Republican version: Anything that moderates, regulates or eliminates the abuse of labor.
3: Republican version: Anything that utilizes taxes for social programs they don't agree with.
The problem with the article is that is all a lie. To say that Democratic Socialism does NOT mean taking from the rich and giving to to the poor AND the middle class is delusional at best. When the rich are taxed to the max and it is not enough, the middle class will be hit hard and thus destroyed.
By the way. 75% of Obama proposed taxes are for NEW SPENDING. Nothing like reducing government spending, thus reducing the deficit.
http://www.weeklystandard.com...
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralisation of credit in...
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Really, do you libs really care? Hell no, you only think of your greedy selves, and fu-- everything else. You will suffer soon for your greed where you won't be able to afford food once the new regulations by the EPA kick in, meaning your utilities will double, and maybe triple by the year 2014. FACT-How can you keep a tax cut when the prices of everything else sky rockets? LOL. Ask yourselves that, LOL. The argument cannot be broken. Oh, you can insult me all you want, I don't care, fact of the matter is, it will not change the suffering that is going to happen to you for re-electing this SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, and MARXIST 0bama.
Obama's "Marxist threat" is just as delusional as the "Iraqi threat" before the 2003 invasion. Both delusions are phantom menaces (i.e, fairy tales), fabricated and circulated by the Conservative Disinformation Network*. Both delusions are "straw men" designed to demonize their targets. Both delusions were swallowed in good faith by angry Americans, eager for excuses to attack their targets, who then circulated these myths further. Both delusions exploited the confirmation bias and ignorance of some Americans.
In a classic display of masterful propaganda, both were also swallowed by others, who now had a REASON to attack the same targets, and circulate these myths further!
BACKGROUND: According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of th...
Obama's "Marxist threat" is just as delusional as the "Iraqi threat" before the 2003 invasion. Both delusions are phantom menaces (i.e, fairy tales), fabricated and circulated by the Conservative Disinformation Network*. Both delusions are "straw men" designed to demonize their targets. Both delusions were swallowed in good faith by angry Americans, eager for excuses to attack their targets, who then circulated these myths further. Both delusions exploited the confirmation bias and ignorance of some Americans.
In a classic display of masterful propaganda, both were also swallowed by others, who now had a REASON to attack the same targets, and circulate these myths further!
BACKGROUND: According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In Marxist theory, it is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles."
Please note that it is the stage FOLLOWING capitalism. Capitalism has many forms in a mixed economy, with public (collective) ownership of various enterprises based upon economic conditions. Limited public ownership does not comprise Marxist socialism, which requires COMPLETE public ownership. When controlled by a police state, however, limited public ownership may become fascism ("national socialism"), Marxist socialism, or even "perfect implementation of collectivist principles" (i.e., communism). Limited public ownership occurs at virtually every point on the mixed economy spectrum.
MIXED ECONOMIES: Every advocate of greater government economic control might be called a "socialist," but none are Marxist socialists unless they advocate the complete elimination of private enterprise. True (laissez-faire) capitalism means zero government control of private enterprise, which means economic anarchy. Neither of these extremes works in the long run. Every successful economy is a mixed economy, existing somewhere on a spectrum between both extremes.
Every successful economy is part capitalist and part socialist. They all contain a mix of private and public ownership, and they all have some government control of private enterprise. The only relevant question is "WHERE on this spectrum can we achieve the greatest success?" The rise of Asian economies, with their varying degrees of centralized planning, proves that economic planning helps economic development.
ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCTS: Both laissez faire capitalism and true communism are artificial constructs, as impossible to sustain as cold fusion. Every successful society requires private enterprise regulated by public policy, regardless of Ayn Rand's fantasies. Extremists on either fringe are equally delusional. In some ways regulation is a necessary evil like body fat: too much or too little are both lethal. The normal tendency is to add layers with age. The challenge is to find the level that will produce the optimum outcome, all things considered.
Unless someone advocates the complete replacement of capitalism with collectivism, they do not truly advocate socialism or communism. To accuse them of either, when they have not explicitly advocated as much themselves, suggests either unfamiliarity with mixed economies or intellectual dishonesty. Even George W. Bush and John McCain were accused of advocating socialism based upon their support of 2008 bailout legislation.
ARE MIXED ECONOMIES "SOCIALIST"? The bottom line is simple. If you consider any variation of a mixed economy, including ANY public ownership or regulation of industry to be "socialism," then the United States and ALL other economies are "socialist." The debate is over, because by that definition we have been "socialist" since the 18th century. If you only consider complete collectivism to be "socialism," according to Marxist theory, then no successful economy is actually "socialist." The closest to a Marxist socialist economy is the economic basket case, North Korea. If you consider socialism to occur at some other point on the spectrum between unregulated capitalism and Marxist socialism, then any such point would be arbitrary.
To accuse a mixed economy advocate of being a socialist or communist suggests that you believe that ANY degree of government ownership or regulation qualifies as "socialism," or that you believe that any ownership/regulation beyond an indefinite "trigger point" qualifies as "socialism,", and that YOU get to set the trigger point. The "trigger point" explanation reminds me of the egocentric explorer who says that anyone who explores farther into dangerous territory is a fool, but anyone who doesn’t explore as far as he does is a coward. His arrogance presumes that his own boundaries are both appropriate and common standards.
MARXIST SOCIALISM: Marxist "socialism," in contrast to European "democratic socialism," requires collective ownership of the means of production and distribution. That is the death of private enterprise. We may or may not be on a path to collectivism, just as a dating couple may or may not be on a path to pregnancy. Traveling on a path in any direction does not imply any specific goal. For example, traveling on Interstate 10 does not imply that either coast is the goal.
"Direction" is one thing. "Goal" is another. All mixed economies exist at some point in the spectrum between the fatal terminuses of unregulated capitalism and true socialism. In most Marxist states, however, capitalism reappeared as people recognized the lethal consequences of such extremes. Russia, China and other communist nations now recognize the virtue of mixed economies. They learned the hard way.
SPECIOUS SPECULATION: I await empirical evidence, instead of specious speculation, that Obama wants to eliminate capitalism by moving to that extreme. To say Obama advocates the goal of socialism, based upon his movement on the spectrum instead of being based on his explicit advocacy, is to create a straw man. It is intellectually dishonest and unworthy of serious debate.
Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it. You can continue to believe whaever the heck you want, but the rest of the country deserves the TRUTH.
PolitiFact.com calls the "socialist" charge a PANTS ON FIRE LIE! See http://www.politifact.com/tex...
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Conservative economist Bruce Bartlett told PolitiFact: "Socialism means public ownership of the means of production. Obama does not believe this. Therefore he is not a socialist. … Although it is true that the federal government did come to own some private businesses as a consequence of bailout policies initiated by the George W. Bush administration such as (the Troubled Asset Relief Program), the Obama administration sold many of them — such as its shares in GM — as quickly as feasible. A true socialist would have held on to them."
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Those fringe elements who consider Obama to be a "socialist" lack the perspective of socialism that ACTUAL socialists enjoy. It may therefore prove useful to examine Obama's policies from the perspective of avowed socialists:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/...
http://www.laprogressive.com/...
http://www.examiner.com/worce...
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-...
http://wspus.org/2008/09/is-o...
http://www.peaceandfreedom.or...
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
http://socialistparty-usa.org... (refutes State of the Union speech)
http://socialistparty-usa.org... (rejects "Obamacare")
Authored by Wor...
PolitiFact.com calls the "socialist" charge a PANTS ON FIRE LIE! See http://www.politifact.com/tex...
[QUOTE]
Conservative economist Bruce Bartlett told PolitiFact: "Socialism means public ownership of the means of production. Obama does not believe this. Therefore he is not a socialist. … Although it is true that the federal government did come to own some private businesses as a consequence of bailout policies initiated by the George W. Bush administration such as (the Troubled Asset Relief Program), the Obama administration sold many of them — such as its shares in GM — as quickly as feasible. A true socialist would have held on to them."
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Those fringe elements who consider Obama to be a "socialist" lack the perspective of socialism that ACTUAL socialists enjoy. It may therefore prove useful to examine Obama's policies from the perspective of avowed socialists:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/...
http://www.laprogressive.com/...
http://www.examiner.com/worce...
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-...
http://wspus.org/2008/09/is-o...
http://www.peaceandfreedom.or...
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
http://socialistparty-usa.org... (refutes State of the Union speech)
http://socialistparty-usa.org... (rejects "Obamacare")
Authored by World Socialist Party US:
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"Is Obama a socialist? He does not regard himself as one. Neither do we. This issue of World Socialist Review examines Obama's outlook and life story, his packaging as a politician, and his policy in such areas as healthcare, the economy, and the environment. It also places Obama in the context of world capitalism and the American political system.
World Socialist Review is published by the World Socialist Party of the United States, which forms part of the World Socialist Movement together with companion parties and groups in other countries. For further information and literature on other topics, please go to our website at http://wspus.org"
[END QUOTE https://www.createspace.com/3... World Socialist Review 22]
Those on the fringe of any group often lack the perspective to accurately gauge the position of others near the center or on the other side of the group. To a dwarf, people of average height may seem tall.
"The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth."
- Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-...
http://www.nationalreview.com...
http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/78...
This one contains actual examples..
http://www.theblaze.com/stori...
Socialism, by definition, requires all to pay the same and all to receive the same, based upon their "needs", so if you don't need it, it WILL be taken from you and given to somebody else who needs it; YOU don't get to decide if you need it. Of course, citing the police as an example of socialism within our country is false claim. The police are the enforcement arm of the executive branch of the government, whether it be local, county, state, or even national (think FBI for national.)
If this is the kind of government you want to live under, go somewhere that already has this type of oppressive regime and leave this constitutional republic alone.
Seems like things haven't changed much.
It's not that difficult, really.
You can have a private army, police forces, trash disposal, education...everything as you suggest.
Then your laissez faire capitalism was rejected as a viable political system some hundreds of years ago.
No government?