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Executive Privilege?Now Obama classifies Fast and Furious documents under Executive Privilege,COVER UP?

Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot 2012/06/20 14:25:57
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  • Schläue~© 2012/06/20 14:33:21
    Yes, I think it is a cover up because..........
    Schläue~©
    +10
    On what grounds.... National security?

    I thought they denied running guns to Mexico on purpose?

    The house of cards is about to come tumbling down.

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  • Jackie ... cindy 2012/06/20 18:04:03
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Starting to seem that way
  • sbtbill 2012/06/20 17:27:23
    No, it is not a cover up because..........
    sbtbill
    I don't want to sound like a broken record but I just heard that this started under Bush and that Holder didn't know about it till Congress discovered it. Clearly, he started shutting it down almost as soon as he found out about it. Any investigation should go back to the start and see who started it and who they told about it and when. So far it seems this was just a dumb idea by a few low level managers that got missed by their bosses until it spiraled out of control.
  • snipe sbtbill 2012/06/20 18:03:43
    snipe
    +3
    Could I ask you where you're getting your information?
  • Jackie ... snipe 2012/06/20 18:13:09
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    I expect it is the pscho babble from the left - see quote from today I just posted - Holder tried that end run and has now retracted.
  • snipe Jackie ... 2012/06/20 18:53:48 (edited)
    snipe
    +1
    Yeah, I heard where Holder backtracked on that statement. Oh, we'll hear it all: racist, Bush did it first, and I'm already hearing it's a witch hunt and that Republicans have been out to bring obama down since his first day in office. I know exactly where liberals get their news, especially a California liberal.
  • Oaces_b... snipe 2012/06/21 01:24:48
  • Jackie ... sbtbill 2012/06/20 18:03:47 (edited)
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    No - there was a program that was similar under Bush - it was stopped because it was decided it could not be effective. It was not in effect for some time. Fast and Furious is/was a separate program - the :"information" you cite was put out when this supreme screw up was found in an attempt to divert attention from Fast and Furious. Then entire committee abandoned that almost immediately (both sides of the aisle) because it was a lie.

    Edit add:

    "To: Reporters and Editors


    Re: Second retraction of Fast and Furious Assertions


    Da: Wednesday, June 20, 2012


    The Justice Department has retracted a second
    statement made to the Senate Judiciary Committee. During a hearing last
    week, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that his predecessor,
    then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey, had been briefed about gunwalking
    in Operation Wide Receiver. Now, the Department is retracting that
    statement and claiming Holder "inadvertently" made that claim to the
    Committee. The Department's letter failed to apologize to former
    Attorney General Mukasey for the false accusation. This is the second
    major retraction the Justice Department has made in the last seven
    months. In December 2011, the Department retracted its claim that the
    ATF had not allowed illegally purchased guns to be trafficked to Mexi...



    No - there was a program that was similar under Bush - it was stopped because it was decided it could not be effective. It was not in effect for some time. Fast and Furious is/was a separate program - the :"information" you cite was put out when this supreme screw up was found in an attempt to divert attention from Fast and Furious. Then entire committee abandoned that almost immediately (both sides of the aisle) because it was a lie.

    Edit add:

    "To: Reporters and Editors


    Re: Second retraction of Fast and Furious Assertions


    Da: Wednesday, June 20, 2012


    The Justice Department has retracted a second
    statement made to the Senate Judiciary Committee. During a hearing last
    week, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that his predecessor,
    then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey, had been briefed about gunwalking
    in Operation Wide Receiver. Now, the Department is retracting that
    statement and claiming Holder "inadvertently" made that claim to the
    Committee. The Department's letter failed to apologize to former
    Attorney General Mukasey for the false accusation. This is the second
    major retraction the Justice Department has made in the last seven
    months. In December 2011, the Department retracted its claim that the
    ATF had not allowed illegally purchased guns to be trafficked to Mexico.
    Sen. Chuck Grassley's letter and the Department's response can be
    viewed here-1."

    Holder has acknowledged in writing that he "inadvertently " made the claim - In other words, he lied!!!
    (more)
  • Philo® ... sbtbill 2012/06/20 18:12:43
  • heirsof... sbtbill 2012/06/20 20:34:41
    heirsoftheking
    +2
    You're just saying that to irritate us. You're probably at home laughing over what you did too, over how funny it is. You probably laugh even more when you see how angry people get. I've done it to liberals before, too.
  • Denny sbtbill 2012/06/20 21:03:23
    Denny
    +3
    Then release the Information they want so that Obummer can again say "Bush did it" !!! Now all of a sudden he's trying to save Bush??? Don't think so. Plus today Holder retracted the statement that Bush's AG knew about the Program.
  • tom C 2012/06/20 17:26:29 (edited)
    Yes, I think it is a cover up because..........
    tom  C
    +3
    Obama is using executive privilege to protect his attorney genral from the congress.....

    what happened to the most open administration ,that Obama promised....

    Just very sad....

  • Jackie ... tom C 2012/06/20 18:04:54
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    I think because he was involved in the advancement of this program
  • snipe tom C 2012/06/20 18:05:26
    snipe
    +4
    I think it was getting too close to obama himself, and that's why he did it. obama doesn't give a sh!t about Eric Holder, or anyone else for that matter.
  • Old Salt 2012/06/20 17:03:32
  • Jackie ... Old Salt 2012/06/20 17:05:01
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    You bet he has - if he and his aides had no knowledge, there is no reason on earth for EP
  • snipe Old Salt 2012/06/20 18:08:06
    snipe
    +3
    Big mistake on his part; he panicked and got some bad advise from Plouffe, Jarrett, and Axelrod.
  • Old Salt snipe 2012/06/20 18:17:47
  • snipe Old Salt 2012/06/20 19:01:37
    snipe
    +4
    That's exactly why Holder is stonewalling Congress: to protect obama. This whole thing leads right to the oval office. And I agree, obama would think nothing of kickin' Holder's ass to the curb, especially if Valerie Jarrett told him to do it. That Woman has given obama a lot of bad advise. She's got something on both obama's, and boy would I love to know what it is.
  • Old Salt snipe 2012/06/20 19:47:17
  • snipe Old Salt 2012/06/20 19:52:13
    snipe
    +2
    And I don't doubt that she's the one who convinced him to go ahead with his amnesty program. That Woman will end up bringing him down, or at least be the cause of his landslide loss in November.
  • Old Salt snipe 2012/06/20 19:56:45
  • Ed 2012/06/20 17:03:02
    Yes, I think it is a cover up because..........
    Ed
    +4
    It is a cover up and if we the people do not take this serious we will not rise above Socialism.

    We need to act and act now. Contact these morons tell them we are not going to stand by and watch our America get FUBAR.

    Than you Jackie, I am as fired up as you are.

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Jackie ... Ed 2012/06/20 17:03:43
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    I am so disgusted
  • Ed Jackie ... 2012/06/20 18:10:41
    Ed
    +1
    We all are.
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/06/20 17:01:52
  • Jackie ... whitewu... 2012/06/20 17:03:01
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    This is over the top - The family has issued a statement declaring that "no one is above the law"
  • Obama Failed Soda Head Chie... 2012/06/20 17:00:16
    Yes, I think it is a cover up because..........
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +2
    Well, at least we now know that there is something to hide at Justice or the White House.

    We may never know what but we certainly do know there is no transparency in this administration.

    If they had nothing to hide better to have come clean up front but in their typical arrogance they thought they could talk their way out of it. Now when the rubber is about to hit the road they must take evasive action, Will be interesting to see how the left media spins this one.
    .
  • Jackie ... Obama F... 2012/06/20 17:01:28
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    Agree completely
  • RogerRover 2012/06/20 16:49:37
    Yes, I think it is a cover up because..........
    RogerRover
    +3
    Sad, sad, sad! Are the wheels falling off the three and one half year amateur hour?
  • Jackie ... RogerRover 2012/06/20 16:50:59
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    Sure looks like it - If the president and aides did not know anything, why on earth do they need EP
  • RogerRover Jackie ... 2012/06/20 19:37:18
    RogerRover
    +1
    All those Chicago types feel like they can lie with impunity. They have no empathy or understanding with those of us who expect a measure of integrity or honesty from our elected officials.
  • OnlyAPilgrim 2012/06/20 15:27:24
    Yes, I think it is a cover up because..........
    OnlyAPilgrim
    +3
    they are just undocumented documents.
  • Jackie ... OnlyAPi... 2012/06/20 16:26:32
  • JanHopkins 2012/06/20 15:23:31
    Yes, I think it is a cover up because..........
    JanHopkins
    +6
    Obviously. By the way, where are all those educated liberals on this site? I want to hear the reasons they defend this action.
  • Mr. T JanHopkins 2012/06/20 15:25:45
    Mr. T
    +2
    As far as I am concerned...ALL liberals and progressive can die and go straight to hell.
  • JanHopkins Mr. T 2012/06/20 15:29:03
    JanHopkins
    +3
    Now that's some pretty strong words.
  • Mr. T JanHopkins 2012/06/20 15:31:11
    Mr. T
    +3
    And I mean it. I am sick and tired of these SOB ruining American and trying to turn us into a socialist nation.
  • JanHopkins Mr. T 2012/06/20 15:49:18
    JanHopkins
    +3
    You sound like an interesting sort of guy. It's hard watching everything that was regarded as good melt down into a pile of manure.
  • Mr. T JanHopkins 2012/06/20 15:53:50
    Mr. T
    +3
    It is more than hard, it is infuriating to the max. And even more is that congress has done little to nothing about any of it.
  • JanHopkins Mr. T 2012/06/20 15:58:54
    JanHopkins
    +2
    I don't know what motivates them. Congress, that is. They spend days on stupid resolutions and won't even read what they are signing. The only reasonable answer is NWO.

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