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Executive Order challenge: fair or foul?

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Representative Steven King (R-IA) said on Friday that he would go to court to enjoin Obama's "DREAM Executive Order" from taking effect. Unless and until Congress
passes anything like the DREAM Act, Obama has no right to put it into
effect by Executive Order. So says
King. He also said he would challenge the President by himself, whether
anyone else in Congress joined him or not. (See stories in WND and Newsmax.)


King’s problem with this Executive Order goes far beyond what it does. No
President, nor any State Governor or other executive, has the power to
do what he pleases without checking with his respective legislature.
King said he would act


before Obama has a chance to do even more damage to the Constitution.


King has done this before. Then-Governor Tom Vilsack signed an
Executive Order in 1999, having to do with hiring discrimination in
State government offices. King sued him, and won. A judge said that
Vilsack exceeded his authority with that order. King will rely on his
experience in suing Obama. His lawyers are looking now into:


  1. Where to sue, and
  2. Whether he has standing.

This is the first time in recent memory that anyone in Congress has
challenged a Presidential Executive Order. Without challenges like this,
Presidents have for decades seemed to make new law with them and get
away with it. Now, at last, a court might decide whether a President may
do that, and how far he may go.

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  • Odinsown 2012/06/18 14:04:53
    It's about time! Presidents have no power to govern by Executive Order. Not i...
    Odinsown
    +18
    Executive orders are the equivalent of the president saying "why? Because I said so!"

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  • Pamela ... Leasher... 2012/06/20 11:31:50
  • voice_m... Leasher... 2012/06/20 12:25:12
    voice_matters
    how does saying they can apply for visas overstep aything?
  • Leasher... voice_m... 2012/06/21 00:54:00
    Leasheryn/Lady Willpower
    +1
    If you don't understand the question, why are you here?
  • voice_m... Leasher... 2012/06/21 01:23:09
    voice_matters
    thanks for showing you can not show a single overstep of power
  • gocar 2012/06/20 01:35:12
    Don't overreact. This Executive Order does not go beyond ordinary Presidentia...
    gocar
    +2
    Oh get off it. When the Republicans do it it's fine but by golly let a Democrat use Executive Power and all hell breaks loose. Yes it was good timing and why not? All's fair in love, war, and politics. Remember the war that the Congress was bamboozled into voting for out of fear that they would be accused of not caring about the safety of Americans. They lied, they knew it was a lie and thousands are dead. When are you going to get angry about stuff like that?
  • Cal gocar 2012/06/20 02:08:46 (edited)
    Cal
    +4
    Strawman argument....as Obama is the only President in history to bypass congress illegally......
  • voice_m... gocar 2012/06/20 12:27:10 (edited)
    voice_matters
    +1
    typical lib ignorance has gotten you block. this executie order has nothing to do with the war on terror nor did bush ever issue one. i get you are stuck on stupid and all stupid libs will be blocked
  • Michaelene gocar 2012/06/20 12:56:42
    Michaelene
    +1
    Are you taling about the Iraq war? Congresses and several POTUS's knew Sadam was a bad bad man, murdering 60,000 innocents with gas.
    Invading Kuwait? You must have forgotten that.
    Who else lied about Iraq and their wmd's?

    Who "bamboozled" Clinton to say these things in 1998, of course, after he briefed and got approval from Congress???

  • I don't... gocar 2012/06/20 13:09:07
    I don't like Obama in office
    The powers Obama took or seams to be taken with out the vote of congress or the voice of we the people is known in the legal terms as Constructive treason for he side steped Basic voting rights the very representative republic we are to be He cannot change hard law with out the vote of or the order by the courts ..this would not fall in line with Soft law as such Unconstitutional and from what i understand a Impeachable matter... Congress should do and has the right and power to do .. I person demand such they so do...
  • jim 2012/06/19 23:38:31
    It's about time! Presidents have no power to govern by Executive Order. Not i...
    jim
    +1
    If a republican president who had majorities in both houses of congress during his first two years and did nothing on this issue during that time, and then with 5 1/2 months to go before the election pulled a crass naked political stunt like this, the mainstream media would have called him a racist. Their silence on the insult of this issue is deafening.
    Once again Obama has shown his deep contempt for the American people by assuming they won't see this for the sleazy manipulation of a minority that it is.
    Even people in Obama's party are running away from him because of his breathtaking incompetence. As election day nears and Obama continues to panic, we will see more of this contemptible pandering. He is no more a leader than a tail on the back of a jackass which, in poetic irony, is the symbol of his party.
  • none 2012/06/19 23:30:13
    It's about time! Presidents have no power to govern by Executive Order. Not i...
    none
    +1
    Obama thinks he can do as he likes and side step Congress, he can't. Hey Obama, that's not how it works here in the United States you arrogant jackass.

    NOBAMA in 2012
  • tom 2012/06/19 22:53:08
    Waste of the court's time! Executive Orders are perfectly valid instruments o...
    tom
    +2
    Why is this even controversial?
  • voice_m... tom 2012/06/20 12:31:01
    voice_matters
    normally you apply for your work or school visas before entering the country illegally
  • Skeptikat 2012/06/19 22:40:15
  • Xed0 Skeptikat 2012/06/19 23:46:13
    Xed0
    +2
    Circumventing the established writ of the law is not part of his job description, there are very few things an executive order can LEGALLY be used to make happen, this was not one of those things.
  • Skeptikat Xed0 2012/06/20 05:06:50
  • zapped Skeptikat 2012/06/20 05:28:52
    zapped
    +3
    the dream act was killed in senate ( and there fore obama now wants to by pass & make law )
    I understand the dream act was shot down by a democrat congress ( before repubs won the senate back in 2010 ?? )
    now why ?
    for the votes of course ....
  • Skeptikat zapped 2012/06/20 08:05:58
  • zapped Skeptikat 2012/06/22 03:46:06
    zapped
    +1
    and your conjecture from a fully left tilting source ..but it was still killed ,,the truth hurt ?

    then the prezs first deal was a back room dealings ...and he was discovered
    (more transparency )??

    nice try ...now back to the present dealings,,, can ya ?

    and now holder & obama are in the hot seat .(AGAIN ) ..it isnt gonna get any better any time soon ..holder contempt // and obama involking exe privledge ,,wow that gonna set well for him in NOV ,,,with his transparency and all ...

    NOW AGAIN I'M INDEPENDENT ... no use or faith in repubs.
  • Skeptikat zapped 2012/06/23 06:27:26 (edited)
  • zapped Skeptikat 2012/06/24 00:10:38
    zapped
    +1
    Prove the bush thing ,,,,,then prove obama didnt know about this ,,,that is if your so Fkng smart ....

    you have No Idea what your talking about ,,,nevere did & never will ...you talk so much trash but have no evidence ...pure conjecture ,,,!

    just wait till after ISSA puts holder in jail for 10 days then holder give OBUNHGOLE up ...then he's impeached ,,,!

    then how does this look for the obama admin for holder to be FOUND GUILTY OF CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS ..a no lower blow to OBAMAIES admin right there world wide !

    I'm not voting for romney or OBUNGHOLE !

    now stay off the street before obama has you for dessert after he has dog for dinner !
  • Temlako... Skeptikat 2012/06/24 00:11:54
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    What you have written above is absurd. Totally absurd.
  • Lady Wh... Skeptikat 2012/06/20 09:36:03
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    True that....
  • Xed0 Skeptikat 2012/06/20 20:04:58
    Xed0
    That does NOT make it LEGAL.



    Basiclly obama is being an infantile cry baby and pushing things he wants to go through that congress has voted down.



    This is a vote grab, no doubt.
  • Skeptikat Xed0 2012/06/20 23:54:13
  • Xed0 Skeptikat 2012/06/24 09:29:17
    Xed0
    +1
    "What kind of a scumbag undermines their own government in a time of crisis"



    Obama, pelosi, reid.....I can keep going.
  • Skeptikat Xed0 2012/06/23 06:29:07
  • Xed0 Skeptikat 2012/06/24 09:29:35
    Xed0
    +1
    Show me the statistics kitten
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/19 22:29:36
    It's about time! Presidents have no power to govern by Executive Order. Not i...
    jackolantyrn356
    +2
    There is no placxe in the Constitution that gives a President the authority to by pass the Conghressional authority to write law. especially law that has already been voted down. Obama has put a gold crown on his brow and declared himself KING. Best he not take that next step into becoming a God. He toyed with that before already. Seems like one of the Heroids did that one and suffered the consequences.
    To get it straight. Excutive Order was given the President by Congress. (FDR of course... The Democrats ruled then as now). All the Congress needs to do is vote it into oblivion. Frankly it was wrong to begin with but the Democrats pay little attention to the Constitution in the 1sr place. They were anxious to make FDR God....Are you l;istening to me America?
  • Skeptikat jackola... 2012/06/19 22:44:01
  • zapped Skeptikat 2012/06/20 05:30:38
    zapped
    +2
    how has this helped make jobs when the illegals are taking the jobs the americans need ?

    are you an anchor child ?
  • Skeptikat zapped 2012/06/20 08:07:32
  • Lady Wh... Skeptikat 2012/06/20 09:36:54
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    "The Tea Party campaigned on jobs- where are they???"

    E X A C T L Y !!!
  • Haightbear 2012/06/19 22:23:32
    Waste of the court's time! Executive Orders are perfectly valid instruments o...
    Haightbear
    +1
    King is such a wack job anyhow....not surprising.
  • Pamela Perkins 2012/06/19 22:11:23 (edited)
    It's about time! Presidents have no power to govern by Executive Order. Not i...
    Pamela Perkins
    +2
    We are experiencing the nearest thing to the Roman Republic and its take over by power hungrey Emperors. Augustus Caesar Obama has unsurped the power of the Legislative Branch and is waging war on the Judicial Branch of our Union, thus making himself and Empress Michelle, the Supreme Rulers of these United States of America. I can't think of anything in our modern era save for Idi Amin of Uganda that compares to these self anointed Dictators. Nothing in our over two hundred year history, has been more dangerous people than these two. Their unbirdled ambitions are more in line with the IIatollahs of Iran, the Muppet Rulers of North Korea, and the despots of the African continent.
  • Skeptikat Pamela ... 2012/06/19 22:49:16
  • Lady Wh... Skeptikat 2012/06/20 09:37:24
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    WELL SAID!
  • voice_m... Pamela ... 2012/06/20 12:40:55
    voice_matters
    wow everyday i read something more stupid than the day before. hate really shows how stupididity has taken over. first off the state dept not congress determines who gets visas. everyone in america at one time has said the judiacialo branch is wrong to make a ruling. if congress doesn't like the executive order they pass a bill saying so. nothing obama has done yet has shwn any violations of the cosntitution. the way i know is if he had you would have shown the article and section violated.
  • Pamela ... voice_m... 2012/06/20 18:15:50
    Pamela Perkins
    Wow, everyday I read something more ridiculous from the looney left.
  • voice_m... Pamela ... 2012/06/20 23:05:33
    voice_matters
    thanks for showing no constitutional violations

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