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Evolution – science influencing government

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/22 01:31:33
Agreed. Evolution destroys rights and the meaning of the Constitution.
Disagree. Only evolution has respect for the Constitution as it was meant to be.
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Progressives like to say that government should not influence science, nor science influence government. But what have they to say about the influence of evolution?

Nothing, of course. Because evolution informs their thinking.

Their entire philosophy of government has its basis in evolutionary thinking. Think about it. Morality is what they make of it. And so is the US Constitution. That's what all that tripe about "a living document" comes from, and what it means.

That's why the Constitution, in their view, means nothing more, nor less, than whatever the United States Supreme Court says it means, any time they say it.

It all comes back to evolution, which destroys the idea of unchanging principles and God-given rights.

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/22 01:33:31
    Agreed. Evolution destroys rights and the meaning of the Constitution.
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +7
    The Constitution had several highly specific meanings. The Progressives have distorted many of them. And when they justify it, they use the lingo of evolution to do it. Is that a coincidence?

    As Ian Fleming once said: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, and the third time it's enemy action.

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  • ehrhornp 2012/08/28 02:06:51
    Undecided
    ehrhornp
    Basic statement is just out to lunch. There is no connection between evolution, science and government. What have you been smoking?
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/08/28 00:06:29
    Disagree. Only evolution has respect for the Constitution as it was meant to be.
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Artificial Natural selection. Evil people will be punished by society and good people will be rewarded by society. Society as a whole should make the rules, they can base it on God or evolution or any other belief system, but everyone should get a fair say. Then we can throw out anything that doesn't work and try new things. It probably would turn out as the Ten Commandments, but it's a more democratic process.
  • doctorwhofan~Tatae~BN-4 2012/08/24 21:36:55
    Disagree. Only evolution has respect for the Constitution as it was meant to be.
    doctorwhofan~Tatae~BN-4
    +1
    Government should be based on reality.
  • Temlako... doctorw... 2012/08/25 01:41:20
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    Evolution is not real. It is a fraud. I have seen the evidence that disproves it.
  • doctorw... Temlako... 2012/08/25 01:50:24
    doctorwhofan~Tatae~BN-4
    Really? Revolutionize the world for me, then.
  • Anonymo... Temlako... 2012/08/28 00:08:15
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Evolution is mostly real. Macro-evolution needs some serious fine tuning, but it is true. It's not like there's any other viable alternative theory, is there?
  • ehrhornp Temlako... 2012/08/28 01:58:26
    ehrhornp
    +1
    Love your links. Hate to tell you this but evolution is a fact. Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is the best explanation to explain the fact of evolution.
  • iamco2000 2012/08/22 18:15:36
    Agreed. Evolution destroys rights and the meaning of the Constitution.
    iamco2000
    +1
    ...they also try to re-define marriage, institute Godless and moral-less "Secular humanism", remove the sanctity of life and ignore the opinions of others whilst demanding they be heard!

    Evolution as the world knows it is a lie in itself, basic genetics will show you that with each generation, "genetic material" (information) is actually LOST....there is no such thing as evolving, in fact its more Devolving.

    Grace to you, Glory to God!
  • Philo-OOO For 3 weeks! 2012/08/22 15:08:05
    Agreed. Evolution destroys rights and the meaning of the Constitution.
    Philo-OOO For 3 weeks!
    +2
    If one's world-view is based on an error, all that follows - all that is built on that foundation - will be in error to some degree, as well.
    When the Founders said, in the Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..." they KNEW that man was CREATED by GOD, even if they did not agree about the details of what came after that initial creative act. The fairy-tale of Darwinism with its inter-species change had not yet been invented. Flowing from this KNOWLEDGE of the Creator and His Power came the Constitution, its language and concepts. A pervasive, unwarranted faith in a purely materialistic universe (a necessary foundation to the theory of evolution) cannot help but undermine principles dependent on the existence and beneficial intervention of God.
  • Bastion 2012/08/22 14:43:26
    Undecided
    Bastion
    +4
    It's hard to decifer the ignorance here. Are you saying that the very concepts of growing and learning and changing to fit the facts are somehow wrong?

    NOT supporting Willful Ignorance is un-American, or something?

    I sure HOPE science influences government, or we're ALL screwed.
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/08/22 14:07:37
    Undecided
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +3
    I don't actually see a connection. Many hardcore constitutionalists on the right also believe in evolution. But the founding fathers intended that the Constitution be adaptable through the amendment process. All complex systems, even in business, must adapt to their environment or perish. Evolution is all around us.
  • Tastentier 2012/08/22 13:13:27 (edited)
    Undecided
    Tastentier
    +4
    I think this is a semantic misunderstanding. Evolution in biology has nothing to do with the question if we can agree on a set of timless societal ground rules and inalienable rights that are so universally important and reasonable that they aren't subject to moral relativism, and aim to protect the individual from both the state and the moral absolutism of the majority.
  • Wahvlvke 2012/08/22 13:12:09
    Agreed. Evolution destroys rights and the meaning of the Constitution.
    Wahvlvke
    Liberals are what happens when survival of the fittest is usurped.
  • Radical Ed Wahvlvke 2012/08/22 13:17:53 (edited)
    Radical Ed
    so you agree with social Darwinism?
  • Wahvlvke Radical Ed 2012/08/22 13:24:27
    Wahvlvke
    Not that I know of ... just having fun.
  • Mike 2012/08/22 13:01:37
    Undecided
    Mike
    +1
    There is a good book out there dealing with this subject: “Scientific Proof of Our Unalienable Rights, a Road to Utopia,” by Takac. This book is an easy read.

    The problem is there is not enough science in political science. In other words, the linkage between the Laws of Nature and political science is a lot stronger relative to current political philosophies. Takac brings out this connection in an eloquent way illustrating the rule of manmade law should followed the seven Principles found in the Laws of Nature for the progressive evolution of a civil society; otherwise, the society will become chaotic.
  • RJ~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/22 12:59:49
    Agreed. Evolution destroys rights and the meaning of the Constitution.
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Liberals & Progressives tend to hide behind the veil of "science" to support whatever views they hold.

    Yet when pressed, they almost always exhibit a complete ignorance of the scientific process.

    There are many examples, such as: the global warming scam; the ruinous DDT ban; the "population explosion" and other Malthusian fallacies; the "green energy" fraud.
  • Radical Ed 2012/08/22 06:39:27 (edited)
    Undecided
    Radical Ed
    +1
    so these people want to throw together things they don't like about their government with those of a scientific theory? how inane.
  • just me 2012/08/22 05:53:17
    Undecided
    just me
    +5
    I fail to see the connection between the Constitution and the process of natural selection based on inherited genetic traits. Science is based on valid and reliable empirical evidence. The Constitution was created as a foundation for the freedoms of our country and has nothing to do with scientific principle as it is always open for reinterpretation according to social and political values.
  • Bozette 2012/08/22 05:21:42
    Undecided
    Bozette
    +6
    Progressives like to say that government should not influence science,
    nor science influence government.

    I cannot agree with this premise. Government does influence science and science does influence government and both are done largely at the behest of progressives. Just a few examples: scientists who work for the government or are partially or wholly funded by government grants fearing to state their belief in God and/or creation lest they feel job/career repercussions, the push to teach evolution exclusively in public schools, every aspect of the whole climate change issue, the ability to restrict/deny our Constitutional rights with new technology (the blame for this goes to both progressive and conservative politicians)...

    There are also legitimate ways in which science and government influence each other. The space program, intelligence and military to name a few. That is not to say that everything that is done under the umbrella of these, and other, programs/agencies is ethical or proper.

    As far as Constitution is concerned, the FFs struggled extensively over that document precisely in order to make it timeless. Part of that timelessness was a method for amending it, which was written into it because the founders recognized the possibility for a need to do so...






    Progressives like to say that government should not influence science,
    nor science influence government.


    I cannot agree with this premise. Government does influence science and science does influence government and both are done largely at the behest of progressives. Just a few examples: scientists who work for the government or are partially or wholly funded by government grants fearing to state their belief in God and/or creation lest they feel job/career repercussions, the push to teach evolution exclusively in public schools, every aspect of the whole climate change issue, the ability to restrict/deny our Constitutional rights with new technology (the blame for this goes to both progressive and conservative politicians)...

    There are also legitimate ways in which science and government influence each other. The space program, intelligence and military to name a few. That is not to say that everything that is done under the umbrella of these, and other, programs/agencies is ethical or proper.

    As far as Constitution is concerned, the FFs struggled extensively over that document precisely in order to make it timeless. Part of that timelessness was a method for amending it, which was written into it because the founders recognized the possibility for a need to do so. (Amend, not distort, pervert or totally rewrite.) Unfortunately, politicians and the judiciary have been trying to...and have often succeeded in...perverting the meaning of it.

    While everyone is free to choose their own moral beliefs, no one can change the fact
    that some things are inherently right and others inherently wrong.Some things are constantly evolving, such as society and its values, mores, laws, etc. Other things are immutable.

    While people of faith believe we have certain God-given rights, many non-faithful also
    believe that we have inherent/unalienable rights. The threat, imo, is those who feel that
    the government is rightfully the grantor of all 'rights', because what the government grants, it can take away.
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  • littleb... Bozette 2012/08/22 05:43:39
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +2
    Very nicely put!
  • Bozette littleb... 2012/08/22 06:03:35
    Bozette
    +2
    Thank you!
  • Giantfan Bozette 2012/08/23 18:35:36
    Giantfan
    And scientists who work for the coal, gas, and oil companies are paid by them and come to the conclusion that there is no man made effects on global warming except now some are coming out saying there is a connection to the dismay of the Koch brothers and oil, gas and coal companies.
  • Bozette Giantfan 2012/08/24 03:56:22
    Bozette
    +1
    Just as many who used to work for the government are coming out and saying exactly the opposite, that climate change is a cyclical and natural phenomenon.
  • Giantfan Bozette 2012/08/24 04:00:28
    Giantfan
    Really, please show me all these so called scientists coming out against climate change...it is a natural occurrence that is being help along, accelerated by humans.
  • Bozette Giantfan 2012/08/24 04:31:08
    Bozette
    +1
    Try googling it, I don't have time at the moment. Off the top of my head, I do recall several from NASA.

    Of course it is a natural occurrence. Do humans affect it? Of course. As do countless other things that are also natural occurrences. No one denies that. The argument is about how great an impact humans have on it.
  • Giantfan Bozette 2012/08/24 14:26:03
    Giantfan
    Of course you don't have the time.
    Yes and scientists even some who denied it a decade ago are changing their opinions and even scientists who were particially funded by the Koch brothers said man is helping speed up global warming. The eskimos in Alaska are losing their land and the perma frost is melting so quickly they can't keep their food cold enough so it doesn't go bad. Half of America is in a drought and more high tempture records were set this year than any other. Check out food prices in a couple of months. The corn crops were a disaster this year and corn is used in many food products. I know the repubs will be blaming Obama for the higher food prices if he is re elected. My brother in law said 2 years ago when Washington DC was pounded by some huge snow storms "where's your global warming now?" The fool didn't realize huge storms were part of global warming. Extremes are one of it's effects. Extreme hot and extreme cold, extreme wet and extreme dry. If only people would take the time to actually learn the facts not the BS talking points.
  • Bozette Giantfan 2012/08/27 01:04:12
    Bozette
    +1
    No, I don't have time to do your research for you. But then, you never intended to do actual research...did you? You will only see what you want to see. Not what is real.
  • Giantfan Bozette 2012/08/27 03:16:56
    Giantfan
    Show me "the real".... If it's factual I'll listen but if you aren't interested in facts waste someone else's time. Over 90% of scientists believe in man helping along global warming and even more when you only include those who work on global warming not a weatherman as Fox used as their expert to deny global warming. What a joke that was. Pull your local weatherman or woman off tv and use them as your expert. LOL
  • Batou Bozette 2012/08/24 03:30:20
    Batou
    History shows that governments have taken away pretty much every individual right from people at one point or another. And it was done legally. So I'm not sure, which rights you think governments can't take away?

    And if governments can take away any right legally, then I don't think it matters whether the rights are considered "God-given" or "unalienable/inherent".
  • Bozette Batou 2012/08/24 03:58:21
    Bozette
    +1
    The way our government was set up, with our Constitution, the government cannot legally take away those unalienable rights. They may do so by force, but that in no way makes it "legal".
  • Batou Bozette 2012/08/24 04:31:24 (edited)
    Batou
    Sure it can. As long as it follows due process. Though there have been a number of instances throughout history when US government has taken away individual rights without due process.

    What concerns use of force, considering that state has monopoly on legal use of force pretty much all law enforcement it performs is done with basis in threat of violence. It's even part of the language: enforcing the law.
  • Bozette Batou 2012/08/27 01:05:46
    Bozette
    +1
    Anything that is unConstitutional is not legal.
  • Batou Bozette 2012/08/27 03:42:27 (edited)
    Batou
    US government has taken away individual rights by violating Constitional law as it has done in the past. And it certainly has taken away individual rights by following the Constitution. So US government is in no way different than other governments in this respect, which brings us back to the question I asked you earlier.

    Which rights can't the government take away?
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/08/22 05:03:24
    Undecided
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    Evolution is a compilation of mutations. Some mutations live on, most all die off.

    In the case of the Constitution, I don't think applying mutations is a good idea. Could make the whole thing die.
  • Joe61 Pedro D... 2012/08/22 09:15:31 (edited)
    Joe61
    +2
    But isn't that what the OBAMANITES want to happen. To, mutate the American constitution to a level where the American populace become a mutant breed of hollow headed homosexuals, pedophiles and violent immigrants. A mutant society where intellectual achievemement is a crime against humanity and the Ruling Left Wing class become mutated images of GOD.
  • Pedro D... Joe61 2012/08/22 14:24:35
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +1
    LMAO I think they all carry the Extinction Mutation.
  • Kaleokualoha 2012/08/22 04:40:47 (edited)
    Undecided
    Kaleokualoha
    +2
    "That's why the Constitution, in their view, means nothing more, nor less, than whatever the United States Supreme Court says it means, any time they say it"?

    Indeed! Most American children learned this in grade school. Apparently, some did not. The primary function of the Supreme Court is interpreting the Constitution:

    "EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW"-These words, written above the main entrance to the Supreme Court Building, express the ultimate responsibility of the Supreme Court of the United States. The Court is the highest tribunal in the Nation for all cases and controversies arising under the Constitution or the laws of the United States. As the final arbiter of the law, the Court is charged with ensuring the American people the promise of equal justice under law and, thereby, also functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution." - http://www.supremecourt.gov/a...
  • Pat 2012/08/22 04:39:24
    Disagree. Only evolution has respect for the Constitution as it was meant to be.
    Pat
    +3
    Evolution is a process of growth and knowledge. It is something to be hoped for and encouraged. Nothing stays the same. If it did, we would still be living in caves and rubbing two sticks together for a fire to cook the opossum we just killed. We'd only live age 20 and be in pain or sick for most of our lives. Everything changes. The universe is constantly changing and expanding. So should our minds and our knowledge of everything around us. Evolution is good; it's a good thing; and it is constant.
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/08/22 04:38:34
    Disagree. Only evolution has respect for the Constitution as it was meant to be.
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +4
    Lol....Evolution is a Theory it has not a thing to do with the Constitution! Evolution has not a thing to do with Morality! Evolution was not invented by Progressive!

    I smell......

    red herring gifs

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