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Everyone is jumping on the McCain, Hagee Bandwagon, do people really think that the relationships between Hagee and McCain, and Wright and Obama compare?

Jamie (goofygirl) May 23, 2008 15:52:34

This was Hagee's response

"I am tired of these baseless attacks and fear that they have become a distraction in what should be a national debate about important issues. I have therefore decided to withdraw my endorsement of Senator McCain for President effective today, and to remove myself from any active role in the 2008 campaign," he said in a statement.
"I hope that the Senator McCain will accept this withdrawal so that he may focus on the issues that are most important to America and the world."
This was Wrights Response

“I said to Barack Obama last year, ‘If you get elected November the 5th, I’m coming after you, because you’ll be representing a government whose policies grind under people.’ All right? It’s about policy, not the American people.”

Asked if he was disappointed that Obama put distance between himself and Wright, Wright said: “He didn’t distance himself. He had to distance himself, because he’s a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was anti-American. He said I didn’t offer any words of hope. How would he know? He never heard the rest of the sermon. You never heard it.”
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  • +13 raves Bill - Buffalo Soldier May 23, 2008 16:54:49
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier

    Different

    Not sure how they can be compared other than both revs are loons. McCain isn't a member of the church, never has been, doesn't and didn't attend services there, denounced what he said about Catholic and, according to the news today when a new tape came out, renounced his endorsement. McCain said he didn't know - we have to believe him since that is not his church, Obama said he didn't know and was an active member for over 20 years, we can't believe him. Truth index, McCain 10 vs. Obama 0
    No comparison, unless you are an Obama zombie.
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    jtrasap June 23, 2008 15:22:28
    jtrasap

    None of the above

    Just more of the same bullshit, petty, character attacks on both sides. I'm a bit more worried about the actual issues and policy. I won't be voting for the flip flopping, geriatric, dishonest, more downhill Bush policy, puppet that is McCain. I like Ron Paul, Barack Obama, and Ralph Nader. Any of the Three will do.
  • +2 raves
    Jamie (... jtrasap June 23, 2008 21:21:36
    Jamie (goofygirl)
    I agree with the petty attacks, and have banned the MSM from my home:) But I will be voting McCain. Thanks for answering:)
  • +2 raves
    Rick June 19, 2008 19:02:36
    Rick

    Different

    No comparison.
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    mary June 16, 2008 23:14:36
    mary

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    Obama went to Wrights church for 20 years. Mccain was not a member.
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    dragonfli May 31, 2008 11:31:32
    dragonfli

    I think

    We need to let the candidates think for themselves. If McCain wants to have Hagee work for the Evangelical vote - more power to him. If his beliefs line up to Hagee's beliefs, who are we to judge?
  • +2 raves
    Ken "Don't tread on me!" May 31, 2008 02:57:15
    Ken

    Different

    They are not in any way similar! Obama sat through two decades of racist, anti-America rants from the Rev. Wright, and called him his spiritual advisor. Wright also married the Obamas, baptised their daughters and even blessed their home when they moved into it! McCain simply accepted an endorsement from Hagee, there is no comparison!
  • +4 raves
    Saintsfan - Right Wing Extr... May 31, 2008 01:55:42 (edited)
    Saintsfan - Right Wing Extremist

    Different

    There is no comparison. Barack was a member of Wright's church because he needed the influential pastor's support to get elected in Illinois. Now he is on a different stage playing to a more diverse audience, he knows that this language will turn off voters, so he must distance himself and I believe Wright is on-board with it. He is a master of spin an eloquent orator and a political opportunist, just what we want in our President. It's all about the image, character doesn't count with this guy. He's flip-flopped on his pastor the one person that he said he could never turn away from...
  • Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama

    Different

    Not the same at all.
  • +2 / -1 raves
    cathy~COB "Love One Another" May 31, 2008 01:23:55 (edited)
    cathy~COB

    They are the same

    If you have a problem with one of them, you should have a problem with the other one. Again, a matter of one's perspective....
  • +6 raves
    Jamie (... cathy~C... May 31, 2008 01:48:47
    Jamie (goofygirl)
    I do not agree with all that either say, I just feel there is a difference in the relationship one has with thier minister and a political supporter.
  • +6 raves
    Carol Nobama May 31, 2008 00:50:43
    Carol Nobama

    Different

    They in no way compare. McCain did not sit or even attend his church for 22 years. He did not sit there and listen to his hate; the way BHO listened to Wright for 22 years. Its like comparing apples to oranges.
  • +2 / -2 raves
    sadiesmom May 31, 2008 00:14:23
    sadiesmom

    They are the same

    Please, if you look for an endorsement or if you belong to a church that has a "crazed" minister..where is the difference?

    Oh, I know one sticks with what they belong to, the other just looks for someone that makes them more appealling until something is said....
  • +4 raves
    Jamie (... sadiesmom May 31, 2008 00:17:34
    Jamie (goofygirl)
    Thanks for your answer.
  • +7 raves
    Janet May 30, 2008 23:14:07
    Janet

    Different

    Obama called Wright his "spiritual mentor". Well, that is a very scary thought!
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    Dogg ~ waiting May 30, 2008 22:37:35
    Dogg ~ waiting

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    How I understand it, hagee endurced McCain and McCain accepted, then Hagee went on a nut trip and McCain said he didn't want it no more. I think McCain was actully in Hagee's church for a total time of 3 months. Then you have Obama, who went to this church for 20 years, named two books after sermons he heard from this unamericain racist man. he had his chilren baptize there in the pools of hate, He married a woman with as much hate for those of lighter skin as the preacher there, so ya no real comaperison, and for the record, I really hate McCain
  • +7 raves
    Jamie (... Dogg ~ ... May 31, 2008 00:21:20
    Jamie (goofygirl)
    I appreciate your answer especially since you dislike McCain, and for the record he is not my favorite either:) I just think this circus has to stop. I was shocked that people actually thought there was a similarity between the two.
  • +1 raves
    sadiesmom Dogg ~ ... May 31, 2008 00:33:14
    sadiesmom
    Actually..most of Hagee's comments were made since 1999 on....
  • +4 raves
    4Given sadiesmom May 31, 2008 02:08:16
    4Given
    To me, McCain is the far least of three potential evils here... not that I think that these endorsements are close to the same.

    However, I do agree that Hagee has been prone to these type of rants on and off for a good number of years. I'd say at least since '99. These types of preachers thrive on the free publicity. In the case of Hagee, it fills his seats and sells his books.
  • +7 raves
    SOnny May 30, 2008 22:00:32
    SOnny

    Different

    Completely and Totally it's just a distraction to try to make the wright ect. issue die down!! Not a chance!!
  • +8 raves
    mr niceguy May 30, 2008 21:56:51
    mr niceguy

    I think

    i think this another attempt by the left wing media to purify Obama, who can do no wrong in their eyes, and if he does they'll find something else to distract us and try to make it look like the right wing side is just as bad or worse, only thing is Obama just keeps doing it over and over-after just saying how great his church was and its new pastor, the new pastor invites another anti-American, anti-white preacher to come and teach-and it sounds like Jeremiah Wright all over again
  • +9 raves
    Robert May 30, 2008 21:36:09
    Robert

    Different

    There is no legitimate equivalence between the two scenarios.... just a typical attempt by the liberals to make it one... similar to comparing waterboarding to beheadings and classify them both as torture, etc. A wildly distorted and political attempt at "moral equivalency." They'll do anything and say anything to get back the white house.
  • Czar Saoirse~Socialist Extraordinaire

    Different

    Obama and his relationship was personal...very personal. Not only was Wright his pastor...but he was his spiritual mentor....and accepted as part of the family (except unlike family, he chose him). McCain and Hagee is different. McCain didn't attend Hagee's church for 20 years. Hagee endorsed McCain...just like Farrakhan, Hamas, and the Black Panthers endorsed Obama.
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    ....... May 30, 2008 21:09:50
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    They are the same

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    john co... ....... May 30, 2008 23:47:32 (edited)
    john conner
    They are the same by speaking about politics in the Pulpit.--which one has a relationship with the candidate "mentor"......The both speak truths about Theology. ---The "truth" is is shaded in both cases--One is an civil rights activist. And one is not. --True (don't know enough to make an informed opinion). One is black and considered "unamerican" by the white people ...Wright??? made very unamerican comments---Obama..would not call him unamerican...just ppicked up somke bad habits from his mentor. Not enough of a track record to tell...and one is white and considered a "true patriot" by the black people...Hagee?? or McCain? Hagee -don't know and don't care.....McCain--absolutly. Jim Crow 2008. Separate but your dirt is worse than my dirt unequal.--- do not know what you mean.
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    john co... ....... May 31, 2008 00:00:47
    john conner
    I am one of them "conservatives" and personally-regardless of how well he knows the bibe, I do not respect or agree with Hagee. I would not want my children to go to any bible school or church of his.

    Wright, I know has had positive impact on his community- but I fear some of the lessons he teaches, teach hate- not love..wether intended or not...remember Hezbolah has some great out reach programs..( i am not comareing him to a terrorist..just making a point. Good deads do not always = good intentions.
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    JDC~Sav... john co... May 31, 2008 01:24:05
    JDC~Saved by grace~
    I'm in full agreement with you John Connor about Hagge as far as teaching my children I prefer to do that.

    As far as Mr. Wright is concern his supporters say he does not teach hatred. All I can say is the preachers that I listen to week in and week out only preach GOD's word and not curses of people or nations, I'm so thankful they fear GOD so much that they honor GOD and HIS word and do not preach their opinions to get people in a frenzy.
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    4Given john co... May 31, 2008 02:12:59
    4Given
    Right on. There is no "black" church and no "white" church. Hagee has a screw loose to, but it's the relationship that's issue here. McCain had a very short term relationship and I don't think he realized much about Big John besides his name.

    You absolutely nailed it John. It's not what you do but why you do it that's important.
  • +4 raves
    john co... 4Given May 31, 2008 02:15:48
    john conner
    When JMC heard a message he did not agree with, he got out of the pew! Obama did not.
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    t May 30, 2008 21:03:04
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    Different

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    gone May 30, 2008 20:55:55
    gone

    Different

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    ! May 30, 2008 20:55:08
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    I think

    They are greatly different and should not be an issue for McCain!


    RWD
  • +4 raves
    Jamie (... ! May 31, 2008 00:27:00 (edited)
    Jamie (goofygirl)
    Where is the McCain 08? I thought this cartoon was hysterical
  • Faith _N_Jesus carries me

    They are the same

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    Jamie (... Faith _... May 31, 2008 00:25:11
    Jamie (goofygirl)
    You are correct, this election is a huge dissapointment.
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    Faith _... Jamie (... May 31, 2008 15:10:35 (edited)
    Faith _N_Jesus carries me
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    Faith _... Faith _... May 31, 2008 15:09:08
    Faith _N_Jesus carries me
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    Jamie (... Faith _... June 01, 2008 02:08:59
    Jamie (goofygirl)
    You must have a DR gnome!!!
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    Faith _... Jamie (... June 01, 2008 13:48:44
    Faith _N_Jesus carries me
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