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England told us that we had no right to break away from them in 1776. Now the federal government is similarly telling states they have no right to secede. Think our nation's founders would have disagreed with them about that?

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  • Tony 2012/11/15 19:25:28
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Tony
    Dissent is, has been, and always will be patriotic!
  • redhorse29 2012/11/15 07:27:56
    YES [explain why you think so].
    redhorse29
    The power and survival of the USA is because of the union of states to form a common set of national laws controlling interstate commerce, common defense, monetary policy and other early functions common to all the states. As 13 individual nation states they floundered under the huge costs of government, interstate commerce and money. To abandon what made us strong is senseless. No this talk is folly.

    I recommend a national party to challenge the existing governing body politic and force a restructure according to the new design and agreed upon isms. We will still be the USA but many aspects of the government will be under new mandate. This is the power of the people and protected by our current Constitution and Bill of Rights.
  • gimini210 2012/11/15 06:33:12
    YES [explain why you think so].
    gimini210
    We fought to free ourselves from England because they ignored our wishes and governed us to support their wants and not to benefit our country, now we have a government who ignores the majority and supports the wants of themselves. The majority said no to the bailouts, the stimulus, the health care bill, the extension to welfare, to not deporting illegals, and we were ignored by our President and congress. We are taxed to pay farmers not to farm, so the two parties in Washington can go on retreats at our expense, to pay 1000's of new federal employees for jobs we told congress we did not want at a time our nation is 6 trillion in debt. IRS hiring thousands of new people to enforce Obama care, the agencies to over see the mandates on the medical fields, insurance companies, and a dozen other new agencies. I can understand why the petitions were started and it is a sad day for America that so many, over a million and still growing, have had to do this to get congress to pay attention. What worries me is if it continues to grow where there are more than half the American population of adults signing on what comes next? But the worse part of all is Washington still can not hear the roar of discontent and liberals think it is whining when in fact it is a protest of taxation without representation because if we were represented none of the above would of happened.
  • lill 2012/11/15 04:19:04
    YES [explain why you think so].
    lill
    +1
    Everyone that wants to secede should be allowed to, let's see how long they can last. peter griffin petoria
  • Wulfdane lill 2012/11/15 04:53:58 (edited)
    Wulfdane
    They would last about as long as you would, because any kind of secession would collapse the economies of every State. There would be no exception.

    Everything from Social Security to all other forms of government funding would cease to exist, military spending would be the only thing that would see a boom.

    .....but there are no States looking to secede and these online petitions aren't worth the virtual paper they are written on, so all of this nonsensical.
  • lill Wulfdane 2012/11/15 05:03:42
    lill
    I wouldn't last a minute and I am not stupid enough to put my name on a joke of a petition which is basically just a list documenting all the kooks in the country. No state could survive absolute independence. People want smaller government, but they have no idea how much we rely upon the federal government in our day to day lives. I agree this whole idea is absurd and nonsensical, and no one will ever take it seriously. The folks that want to secede might as well go live in the desert and see how well they fare, it would prepare them for a move to secede from the union.
  • John BNO 2012/11/15 02:42:09
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    John BNO
    I have personally spoken with my Maine Senator and my New York Senator and both have denied that there is any such action being taken. While discussing this with my cousin attorney, he says he always gets few dozen requests right after elections, from people who what to arrange to relocate in Europe or Canada but over the 40 years he has been practicing law, he has never seen anyone leave. Blow hard and propaganda from a group of malcontents.
    These petitions are not being sponsored or supported by any state government that I can see. Just a bunch of whiners who don't have the guts to move to a "better" country.
    If you get around the 404 error when clicking on the links, all you do is arrive at a "petition" web site, which is a lot different than saying that "47 States are Now Gathering Signatures to Secede From the US." The states are not doing anything. These petitions are being generated by an individual or group of individuals just to promote hate and discontent. They really need to get a life. Have you looked at the names on some of the signature lines? Daffy Duck, etc. All of the cartoon characters for the past 2 decades are there.
    I'm not sure that anyone signing these petition have any comprehension of what would happen to their state without out the US government. No c...
    I have personally spoken with my Maine Senator and my New York Senator and both have denied that there is any such action being taken. While discussing this with my cousin attorney, he says he always gets few dozen requests right after elections, from people who what to arrange to relocate in Europe or Canada but over the 40 years he has been practicing law, he has never seen anyone leave. Blow hard and propaganda from a group of malcontents.
    These petitions are not being sponsored or supported by any state government that I can see. Just a bunch of whiners who don't have the guts to move to a "better" country.
    If you get around the 404 error when clicking on the links, all you do is arrive at a "petition" web site, which is a lot different than saying that "47 States are Now Gathering Signatures to Secede From the US." The states are not doing anything. These petitions are being generated by an individual or group of individuals just to promote hate and discontent. They really need to get a life. Have you looked at the names on some of the signature lines? Daffy Duck, etc. All of the cartoon characters for the past 2 decades are there.
    I'm not sure that anyone signing these petition have any comprehension of what would happen to their state without out the US government. No currency, no federal aid for schools or health care, no funds to repair roads and bridges, no electric grid for power, no airports in these states, no FCC support therefore no cell phones, no banking outside of your state, if you border the ocean, Canada, or Mexico you have to provide your own security. This is really stupid, but if they say it long enough, I guess they think someone will listen. Won't be me.
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  • Tony John BNO 2012/11/15 19:26:42
    Tony
    I always suspected there was nothing to this, just typical media hype!
  • Mr Chin 2012/11/15 02:37:45
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Mr Chin
    It's hard to be sure. But even if you don't agree with what they are doing they are acting according to their conscience and participating in the shaping of their country. In olden colonial times that was considered High Treason..

  • A Founding Father 2012/11/15 02:37:25
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    A Founding Father
    The "Founders" formed a UNION, beginning with 13 states and providing that others could join as settlement of the lands occurred. They did not provide for small bands of dissident minds to disrupt the workings of the Union or solve their hissy fits with "leaving home" and hiding out in the neighbor's back yard. Get over the delusions, it isn't about to happen and the RWNJs can either accept the ass kicking given to them by a majority of their fellow citizens, or they can make fools of themselves and end up being charged with "civil disobedience", fingerprinted, photographed, and sent to Court where a sentence will be
    passed and "probation" given with the obvious stipulations to not further disrupt the workings of civil governments at any level. End of the "revolution" except for the underground of whining and crying among the truly insane.
  • Mog of War 2012/11/15 02:26:58
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Mog of War
    For one thing, the states have representation in their Federal government and that is what the Founders fought for, not separation from England. For another, the founding fathers are friggin' hypocrites who'd bitch smack anyone who even talked secession... And I respect them lots for that, because Secession is friggin' STUPID! Finally, because we have a representative form of government, not a monarchy, and we receive representation, which were are entitled to, then the very grievances the founders broke with England over are specifically impossible. If our governance suddenly enters the hands of the U.N. without us having a say in the matter. (Which many on this site claim has happened already) Then we might have something more resembling the grievances of the founders.
  • Arizona1950 2012/11/15 02:06:05
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Arizona1950
    and they would agree that it was Lincoln who changed it all and took us into the current direction of too much government ...
  • Beccy 2012/11/15 01:31:47
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Beccy
    America has been divided from the very beginning. I think some of the founders would like the way things are going now and some would say to pull away. Sadly Obama has lived up to his wish to be like Lincoln
  • AL 2012/11/15 01:29:25
    YES [explain why you think so].
    AL
    You bet, thats the whole reason we are a free Country in the first place!
  • Anna 2012/11/15 01:19:44 (edited)
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Anna
    +2
    Jefferson might have agreed before he started changing his stance on some of his polices due to being President, but most of the founding fathers fought politically against the South, and one point the North, seceding.

    The difference between our Government now and England then is that we have a Government where we elect our own Representatives. Don't like the polices, fight against them at the Ballot and send petitions to your local Representatives.
  • Lord Emperor Kami Guro Bage... 2012/11/15 01:19:16
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Lord Emperor Kami Guro Bagels Supreme Ruler of the Earth
    At least Jefferson would have, thats just the kinda thing he would have done
  • Todd Parsons 2012/11/15 01:12:11
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Todd Parsons
    +1
    Keep in mind though...people in those days had balls. they held deep conviction in their principals and were willing to die for those beliefs
  • Raymond59 2012/11/15 00:57:25
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Raymond59
    The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription


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    IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long...

























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    The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription


    -----------------------------...

    IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

    I would point out that one can bring into context some of those Principals of the Declaration of Independence into the Modern Day. Some of the same abuses are being preperated today. It's interesting to note that during the drafting of the Declaration of Independence, that some of the Congressional delgates pointed out that the "rebellion was illegal." Technically, that's correct. In the "First Person" (Their rebellion), it's Illegal. It's only in the "Third Person" (Our Rebellion) that it's Le/al. It's a matter of a "point of view." That same was said after Texas declared it's Independence from Mexico & General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna sent Troops into Texas to "quell the Rebellion." He lost! The Federal Government of The United States better NOT ignore this problem & find an amiable solution. Otherwise, "Hell's Coming For Breakfast!"
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  • Todd The Libertarian 2012/11/15 00:48:13
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Todd The Libertarian
    Why dont you tea wackers get your state behind you n leave!We could solve the deficit problem by not sending your ssi,welfare,n foodstamp money.Get your people behind you.No medicade,medicare in your state.Do you nuts believe any of us take you serious besides maybe Insanity Hannity?Go back to the holler.
  • ☆ElenaDiamond☆ 2012/11/15 00:42:52
    YES [explain why you think so].
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    I don't agree with the current secession movement. Libtards pulled this shot years ago. Pure bull.
    "It is a momentous truth, and happily of universal impression on the public mind, that our safety rests on the preservation of our Union." --Thomas Jefferson: to Rhode Island Assembly, 1801. ME 10:262

    "Certain States from local and occasional discontents might attempt to secede from the Union. This is certainly possible; and would be befriended by this regular organization [of the Union into States]. But it is not probable that local discontents can spread to such an extent as to be able to face the sound parts of so extensive an Union; and if ever they should reach the majority, they would then become the regular government, acquire the ascendency in Congress and be able to redress their own grievances by laws peaceably and constitutionally passed. And even the States in which local discontents might engender a commencement of fermentation, would be paralyzed and self-checked by that very division into parties into which we have fallen, into which all States must fall wherein men are at liberty to think, speak, and act freely according to the diversities of their individual conformations, and which are, perhaps, essential to preserve the purity of the government by the censorsh...



    I don't agree with the current secession movement. Libtards pulled this shot years ago. Pure bull.
    "It is a momentous truth, and happily of universal impression on the public mind, that our safety rests on the preservation of our Union." --Thomas Jefferson: to Rhode Island Assembly, 1801. ME 10:262

    "Certain States from local and occasional discontents might attempt to secede from the Union. This is certainly possible; and would be befriended by this regular organization [of the Union into States]. But it is not probable that local discontents can spread to such an extent as to be able to face the sound parts of so extensive an Union; and if ever they should reach the majority, they would then become the regular government, acquire the ascendency in Congress and be able to redress their own grievances by laws peaceably and constitutionally passed. And even the States in which local discontents might engender a commencement of fermentation, would be paralyzed and self-checked by that very division into parties into which we have fallen, into which all States must fall wherein men are at liberty to think, speak, and act freely according to the diversities of their individual conformations, and which are, perhaps, essential to preserve the purity of the government by the censorship which these parties habitually exercise over each other." --Thomas Jefferson to A. L. C. Destutt de Tracy, 1811. ME 13:20

    "A spirit which should... countenance the advocates for a dissolution of the Union and for setting in hostile array one portion of our citizens against another... would prove indeed that it is high time for every friend to his country, in a firm and decided manner, to express his sentiments of the measures which government has adopted to avert the impending evils, unhesitatingly to pledge himself for the support of the laws, liberties and independence of his country; and... to resolve that for the preservation of the Union, the support and enforcement of the laws, and for the resistance and repulsion of every enemy, they will hold themselves in readiness and put at stake if necessary their lives and fortunes on the pledge of their sacred honor." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Connecticut Republicans, 1809. ME 16:365

    "I can scarcely contemplate a more incalculable evil than the breaking of the Union into two or more parts." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1792. ME 8:346
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  • Wulfdane 2012/11/15 00:37:01 (edited)
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Wulfdane
    +1
    Meant, to say no.....

    No State has asked to secede (or even discussed such an issue), so your question is nonsensical.
  • sbtbill 2012/11/15 00:35:03
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    sbtbill
    +1
    What state has voted to sucede?
  • Wulfdane sbtbill 2012/11/15 00:50:19
  • AL sbtbill 2012/11/15 01:34:36 (edited)
    AL
    LOL! Wake up will you, because 47 States have already started the already,and they only need 25,000 signers in each state to vote on it as well! Yet Texas alone has 80,000 already in fact!
  • Kate AL 2012/11/15 03:45:34
    Kate
    That is now up to all 50. Texas has always retained their right to seceed from the uniion at any time.
  • ed 2012/11/15 00:32:24
    YES [explain why you think so].
    ed
    yes they would want to secede from this type of government but I think they would have already done it not beat around the bush.
  • Dogzebra~PWCM~JLA 2012/11/15 00:14:47
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Dogzebra~PWCM~JLA
    And I'd bet they'd have plenty to say to berry.
  • Darcy Polle 2012/11/15 00:00:26
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Darcy Polle
    +2
    1) The Federal Government hasn't said anything in response to your worthless petitions.
    2) The Founding Fathers would think your petitions are a joke. They didn't go on the Internet, make stupid petitions, and then go to SodaHead and whine about not getting their way. They mobilized and actually DID something. You idiots are just whining. That's it. Nothing about these petitions will accomplish anything.
    3) And for the last time, those petitions don't even represent a single percent of the country. Not even a HALF of a percent of the country. They have no legitimacy.
  • none 2012/11/14 23:57:44
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    none
    Right now it comes down to what our founding fathers hated, Taxation Without Representation.
  • Narcole... none 2012/11/15 01:00:01
    NarcolepticGoat
    +2
    Right now that only happens in DC.
  • none Narcole... 2012/11/15 18:33:05
    none
    It's affecting the whole country too.
  • Narcole... none 2012/11/15 18:38:44
    NarcolepticGoat
    Last I looked every state has both Senators and Representatives. DC doesn't. Just because you don't like the outcome of your elections doesn't mean you aren't represented. You have the same rights as anyone to contact yours. No one in DC does, there is no one to contact that has a vote in congress.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/11/14 23:54:45
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Who the hell wants another civil war?? Sheesh,
  • RTHTGakaRoland 2012/11/14 23:54:22
    YES [explain why you think so].
    RTHTGakaRoland
  • SIMPATTYCO 2012/11/14 23:52:48
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    SIMPATTYCO
    +1
    Theory "United we stand Divided we fall."


    The US Constitution is silent on the issue of secession. There is no provision in the Texas Constitution (current or former) that reserves the right of secession, but it does state that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States" ... not to the President of the US or even the Congress of the US.

    Both original and current Texas Constitutions state that political power is inherent in the people and (just as the Declaration of Independence declares) "the people have the right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."

    Texas and Hawaii are two states that were once recognized as independent nations, before choosing to join the Union. Their voluntary decision to join the Union did not come with an explicit agreement that they could never leave.

    Some people claim that the Civil War proved that secession is illegal. Whether one was in favor of the North or the South, all that war actually "proved" is that a state or group of states can be militarily forced to continue being a part of a group. Superior strength does not prove morality or legality as any citizen of the former Soviet Union can attest.

    Some people are under the mistaken impression that the US Su...

    Theory "United we stand Divided we fall."


    The US Constitution is silent on the issue of secession. There is no provision in the Texas Constitution (current or former) that reserves the right of secession, but it does state that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States" ... not to the President of the US or even the Congress of the US.

    Both original and current Texas Constitutions state that political power is inherent in the people and (just as the Declaration of Independence declares) "the people have the right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."

    Texas and Hawaii are two states that were once recognized as independent nations, before choosing to join the Union. Their voluntary decision to join the Union did not come with an explicit agreement that they could never leave.

    Some people claim that the Civil War proved that secession is illegal. Whether one was in favor of the North or the South, all that war actually "proved" is that a state or group of states can be militarily forced to continue being a part of a group. Superior strength does not prove morality or legality as any citizen of the former Soviet Union can attest.

    Some people are under the mistaken impression that the US Supreme Court decision in Texas v. White "proved" that secession is unconstitutional. Actually, that decision was not based on any precedent or anything in the Constitution and was in direct conflict with the actions of the then-President Grant who had to sign an act to "re-admit" Texas into the Union and allow them to send Representatives back to Congress. If Texas had never left, as the Court declared, it would not have been required to be "re-admitted" and Grant would not have needed to sign the declaration. This is a conflict that has never been fully cleared up.

    Bottom line: There is no law forbidding or allowing secession. If Texas or any other state decides to secede, the resulting peaceful separation or war will depend not on law, but on the will of whomever happens to be Commander-in-Chief at the time.
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  • Ahmedin... SIMPATTYCO 2012/11/15 06:33:50

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