"EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016 U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans" Do you see this as something that can or will happen?

by XENON23 Posted 2012/08/12 02:42:50

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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/12 02:47:32

YES

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Of course, what I can't predict is whether military officers would obey such orders.
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lark 2012/08/12 14:33:48

YES

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If the Country is still going in the direction it is now, the only ? is will they be Americans or UN Troops

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Philo-WHEREAREYOU,USA? 2012/08/12 12:01:44

YES

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Of course. If you speak out against Obeyme, The 0ne, you are already on some DHS list as a possible terrorist. My hope is that flag and even field commanders are patriotic enough to fulfill their oaths of office to support and defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America, and not mindless drones like the Nazis who obeyed Der Führer, even when they knew his orders to be wrong and evil.
In any case, those commanders too stupid to realize they will eventually be held accountable for their treasonous actions, those steeped in the evil of socialism, and those too blind to see Obeyme for the dictator that he is will face not a group of unarmed, helpless Europeans with a bone-deep memory of serfdom, but red-blooded American patriots willing to fight and make someone else die for this land.

"...fight to keep this land your own..."

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Roger 2012/08/12 07:55:16

YES

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I see it as “possible to highly likely” if Obama is re-elected. This has been a subject of interest of mine for several years. On SH just last week ‘Bcounted’.. wrote “I don't know what will be the breaking point of the American people, but its sure to come. Who would have ever thought that Americans could be oppressed to the breaking point equal to a third world”? I agree!
The American people are extremely angry right now. This is reflected in a host of polls I read these days. They are getting mad at the government, they are getting mad about the economy, and they are getting mad about the direction that this country is headed. There is vast disagreement about what the solutions to our problems actually are, but what everyone can agree on is that the American people are absolutely seething with anger. Our economy is dying right in front of our eyes, and most Americans have been so “dumbed-down” that they don’t even realize what is happening. As the economy has fallen to pieces anger has been steadily growing. If something is not done to turn the economy around eventually this anger could possibly erupt in frightening and unpredictable ways.
The American people are not equipped to handle hard times. We are incredibly spoiled. Most of us have only known good times, a...

I see it as “possible to highly likely” if Obama is re-elected. This has been a subject of interest of mine for several years. On SH just last week ‘Bcounted’.. wrote “I don't know what will be the breaking point of the American people, but its sure to come. Who would have ever thought that Americans could be oppressed to the breaking point equal to a third world”? I agree!
The American people are extremely angry right now. This is reflected in a host of polls I read these days. They are getting mad at the government, they are getting mad about the economy, and they are getting mad about the direction that this country is headed. There is vast disagreement about what the solutions to our problems actually are, but what everyone can agree on is that the American people are absolutely seething with anger. Our economy is dying right in front of our eyes, and most Americans have been so “dumbed-down” that they don’t even realize what is happening. As the economy has fallen to pieces anger has been steadily growing. If something is not done to turn the economy around eventually this anger could possibly erupt in frightening and unpredictable ways.
The American people are not equipped to handle hard times. We are incredibly spoiled. Most of us have only known good times, and most of us have been taught that we will have endless prosperity all of our lives because we live in the greatest nation on earth. Well, “the greatest nation on earth” is about to get a massive wake up call. We are up to our eyeballs in debt and we are bleeding jobs, businesses and wealth at an astounding pace. I believe the current path under Obama will lead to food shortages, even greater un-employment, and the total denigration of the middle-class. I see civil un-rest on many fronts including those that support Obama now.
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Striker to Roger 2012/08/14 19:14:06

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Yes, there is anger, indeed. There is also the offsetting factor of "ignore it and "hopefully" it'll go away. I'll always remember the day of passing ZeroCare and expecting that should be and would be the focal point by which massive resistance would build quickly. Guess what? Nothing happened, NOTHING! There has more since, like NDAA, and still nothing. Each and every day resistance is being thwarted a bit more.

I believe that the back-breaker will be debt collapse, not some war without a battleline. Yet it is very hard to predict what this communistic government might do, and that remains a serious concern of many.

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Roger to Striker 2012/08/15 06:29:26

I cannot say that nothing is being done. Look at the rise of the Tea Party. Look at how many older Americans, and Conservatives of all ages, have taken to the social media to express their anger, frustrations, and to make their views known. We are no longer the silent majority but are making sure our voices are heard. Conservatism/Constitutionalism has drawn definite lines to define itself over the past four years like never before. We have worked hard to place people into places in Government and the Republican Party with great success. While being heard from openly, we are also in the background of this battle for our freedom in a way we have never been. We are exchanging ideas and banding together like never before. We are using the same tools that the left has used for years against us to fight back against them. We have also been patient. We know that we have that greatest power that our forefathers could have ever given us to use; stronger than any weapon available. We have the vote. It is not too late to make the vote work in our favor and I think we all know this and know it is our best line of defense. It is when the vote fails that I wonder what course people will take? It is when our voices mean nothing that I wonder how far people will go?

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Striker to Roger 2012/08/15 13:45:15

How far? Who the hell knows? Expect little and you'll be less disappointed.

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Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/08/12 07:50:15

YES

+5
But I have seriouse doubts many US soldiers will fire on peacfull civilians.

Now if UN troops are flown in?

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Ken to Dwight-... 2012/08/12 17:34:22

+2
I would love to shoot those bastards, fly them in.

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Dwight-... to Ken 2012/08/12 23:50:18

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I wonder how many of them believe themselves up to the challenge?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/w...

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Ken to Dwight-... 2012/08/13 00:05:21

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If they think the muslims are giving them problems, wait until they get here.

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Dwight-... to Ken 2012/08/13 00:10:06

+2
Time for Cowboys and... Everybody else!!!

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Striker to Dwight-... 2012/08/14 19:21:12

Doubts abound, and the people are in control of nothing.

The UN has no troops other those it can con other nations into providing. While I feel that's quite unlike to be part of this scenario, I will say that if it happens we'll be into WW3 very quickly. Some real Americans will vaporize the UN early on, but that won't be the end of it.

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Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/08/12 05:40:29

YES

+7
Under the Radar:

The military is being transformed. Sympathetic officers are moving up the ranks, Crips, bloods and La Familia are increasingly signing up. The professional army of the first gulf war is gradually giving way to enlistment of undesirables signing up to avoid jail sentences, just like in the era of the draft. So the military is not the same as even 10 years ago.

On another note, some off the record power struggle is currently underway. The first public exposure of this conflict came to light with the arrest of the Military Police officer in Alaska last year. It is a power struggle between the established military and the administration's NSA, FBI, DOJ and DHS.

http://prasutagus.wordpress.c...

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Striker to Pedro D... 2012/08/14 19:24:39

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That's an interesting article, Pedro. Recommended reading.

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wtw 2012/08/12 05:19:52

YES

+5
Most military will rise up against killing our people!

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KingdomNow 2012/08/12 05:18:45

YES

+6
It can happen...

The Kenyan Bastard is delusional enough to think that such a scheme wouldn't backfire.
He wouldn't be the first dictator to underestimate the peoples' anger.

Mussolini and his mistress, beaten to death and strung up by by onetime subjects. I have a rope for the current usurper.

It has happened before. We shall see the American Spring.

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historian 2012/08/12 04:59:43 (edited)

YES

+5
If they're told they're fighting insurgents or terrorists they've proven they'll follow commands without question. I'm sure the government will use those vast amounts of private mercenaries to do the real dirty work, while the military is busy doing the same abroad. There was a time I wouldn't believe it, but considering the past 20 years, it would be pure hope to deny the possibility. Besides, the build up of the Homeland Security with its own army, intelligence, camps, massive ammunition purchases, drills, etc isn't just for show.

Will the prison guards, aka militarized police or soldiers confiscate your means of defence and force you out of your home? Yes.

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Philo-W... to historian 2012/08/12 12:05:34

+3
They can try...

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Striker to Philo-W... 2012/08/14 19:34:40

+2
Few can match both the firepower and the manpower. Dang right I'll self-defend, but I see the odds as against us.

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Striker to historian 2012/08/14 19:32:32

+1
Now that's quite a video! Good share!

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Don Leuty 2012/08/12 04:50:32

YES

+7
One word. Katrina.

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Dwight-... to Don Leuty 2012/08/12 07:52:32

+4
Oh, yes! I had forgotten that Ray Neagle (?) had police confiscate guns from private citizens then.

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Don Leuty to Dwight-... 2012/08/12 19:40:26

+3
Ray Neagle earned himself a place in the Hall of Shame.

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☆astac☆ 2012/08/12 04:48:19

YES

+6
Hopefully they will fight against the progressives, including obama, pelosi, reid, and the democrat party and their supporters.

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Striker to ☆astac☆ 2012/08/14 19:36:37

+1
And that will be the "battleline"!
The big question here is will we be battling communists or our own military with the big guns.

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☆astac☆ to Striker 2012/08/15 04:16:46

+2
I am hoping the majority of the military will fight on the side of those that support the Constitution

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Striker to ☆astac☆ 2012/08/15 04:56:11

+1
We all hope that. It's hell not to know for sure.

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☆astac☆ to Striker 2012/08/15 04:57:58

I agree, but the culture of the military is to protect the Constitution, I think that culture will play in favor of those who are opposed to those who seek to destroy the Constitution

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Striker to ☆astac☆ 2012/08/15 05:03:24

+1
It this manure pile gets much higher, we'll all see how it comes out.

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☆astac☆ to Striker 2012/08/15 12:53:00

+1
It is already piled pretty high, I am surprised the nation has not exploded already

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Dagon 2012/08/12 04:22:16
Striker to Dagon 2012/08/14 19:37:41

+2
TSA is already Obama's "civilian army", and completely beyond control of the people.

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Ken 2012/08/12 02:57:40

NO

+3
Soldiers will not turn on American citizens, especially not for Obama.

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☆astac☆ to Ken 2012/08/12 04:49:08

+2
Would not mind seeing the troops turn on obama and his supporters

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Striker to Ken 2012/08/14 19:38:37 (edited)

Don't bet your life on that one. Some will not, others will follow "orders", and there surely WILL be CO's ignoring their oaths and terrorizing the EM's of their units.

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Ken to Striker 2012/08/14 22:12:12

I think the people in the Military understand their oath to the Constititution is made to the people who elect and are the bosses of the Government thus the Military.

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Striker to Ken 2012/08/14 22:45:58

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When push comes to shove, I doubt that the military or any other group will not splinter to unknown degree. There are no polls or facts to tell us either way.

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cupcakes 2012/08/12 02:51:37

Undecided

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XENON23 to cupcakes 2012/08/12 02:55:42

+2
Happy go lucky are we...LOL

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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/12 02:47:32

YES

+10
Of course, what I can't predict is whether military officers would obey such orders.

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