During the 16 Years of the Clinton/Bush era the Middle East was fairly quite. In ONLY 4 YEARS under OBAMA nearly 90,000 Civilians have been Killed. AND OBAMA GETS THE NOBEL PEACE AWARD? Why do you think this is happening?????
The Patriot
2012/12/04 14:43:49
Libya - 30,000 civilians were killed
Egypt - 850 civilians were killed
Syria - 40,000 - 53,465 of deaths in
the Syrian civil war and counting.
Under Saddam Hussein's regime.
Approved executions, acts of torture and rape.
Public beheadings of women who were accuse of prostitution and took place in front of family members including children. The heads of the women were publicly displayed near signs reading 'For the honor of Iraq.' 130 women were reportedly killed in this manner, but the estimation is probably higher.
Children (reported as young as 5) were subjected to military training which included cruelty to animals. If the parents objected they were executed and the children imprisoned.
The Iraq citizens were restricted from voting and 8% of members of Arab Ba' ath Party could vote leaving the citizens unable to vote in another government.
The Iraq citizens were not allowed to assemble unless it was to express support for their government. The Iraqi government controlled the establishment of political parties regulated by internal affairs which monitored their activities.
Check points prevented citizens from traveling abroad without government permission (expensive). They had to post collateral and Iraqi women could not travel without a male companion.
Halabja poison gas attack occurred March 15 - 19, 1988 and Hussein began his extermination aga...
Under Saddam Hussein's regime.
Approved executions, acts of torture and rape.
Public beheadings of women who were accuse of prostitution and took place in front of family members including children. The heads of the women were publicly displayed near signs reading 'For the honor of Iraq.' 130 women were reportedly killed in this manner, but the estimation is probably higher.
Children (reported as young as 5) were subjected to military training which included cruelty to animals. If the parents objected they were executed and the children imprisoned.
The Iraq citizens were restricted from voting and 8% of members of Arab Ba' ath Party could vote leaving the citizens unable to vote in another government.
The Iraq citizens were not allowed to assemble unless it was to express support for their government. The Iraqi government controlled the establishment of political parties regulated by internal affairs which monitored their activities.
Check points prevented citizens from traveling abroad without government permission (expensive). They had to post collateral and Iraqi women could not travel without a male companion.
Halabja poison gas attack occurred March 15 - 19, 1988 and Hussein began his extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern Iraq. There were at least 50,000 - 100,000 people killed, many were women and children.
Experimentation's of different gases on civilians.
Mass executions on the Kurdish and disappearances of thousands of civilians.
Experimentation of chemical weapons including mustard gas, Sarin, nerve agents that killed thousands.
Imprisonment of thousands of women, children and the elderly under extreme deprivation.
Citizens were forced from their villages, homes and land along with schools, mosques, farms and power stations.
Hussein massacred Kurdish north and the Shiasouth and the deaths were estimated from a range of 2,000 - 100,000 Kurds and 60,000 to 130,00 for shiites.
Death penalties were handed down for theft, corruption, currency speculation and military desertion. The more fortunate had amputations or branding.
CNN revealed eventually that Iraq torturing journalists and Iraqi citizens in 1990s.
In the 2003 invasion of Iraq mass graves were found with several thousand bodies and more are being uncovered to this day.; It was believed that most of the dead died in the 1991 uprising against Saddam Hussein.
In the 2003 invasion of Iraq many torture center were found in security office and police stations such as hooks for hanging people by their hands for beatings, electric shock, etc.
In some reports torture was used to improve the performance of the Iraqi soccer team, but there are no correct records on this.
AT LEAST BUSH HAD THE BALLS TO STOP THE KILLING OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS.
You left out both Gulf Wars.
But such facts are not enough -- because for YOU the true question is whether civilians killed by the war are "unnecessary". I need to ask whether YOU think the civilian deaths were necessary or not. I clearly believe they were necessary to oust Saddam and save the lives he would have murdered, to free the children from prison, etc. -- in fact more necessary than the atomic bombs to force Japan's surrender Are YOU willing to accept Muslim fanatic terrorists with WMDs, or Muslim theocracy, rather than fight for Western/ Christian/ Capitalist/ Freedom, then indeed comparing death rates doesn't mean much.
Nothing you post is going to change that fact..
"During the 16 Years of the Clinton/Bush era the Middle East was fairly quiet?
this started in 2001, exactly 9/11 at 9:00 AM
Bush opened his drawer and started implementing what already in these drawers from files , map , new world order , divide to conquer file , ethnic cleansing , sectarian file ... economy ... greater Israel ... and on and on ...
he started from Afghanistan even Taliban said to american at that time , ''' if you gave us evidence that someone from inside Afghanistan did this atrocities(9/11) , we will handed him over to you as soon as possible and put him in prison for trial ... but USA went ahead and invaded that country . killing over 1 million ...
then Mr dick and his associate, Rumsfeld , Paul wolf.. ... and others ... came out very happily saying they could do two 2 war at the same time ... and even 3 or 4 .......afterward anywhere in the world
so ,they went to Saddam with pretext he had mass destruction weapon ... then conquer that country and destroy it ... bring Iran in and giving that country to it to run it ...
now job finished and done for bush and his associate , they went to camp David to relax and play golf ... now forgotten while they left behind them so many contradiction between human right that USA claim to have, and gtm, ......between freedom and occupation at ...
this started in 2001, exactly 9/11 at 9:00 AM
Bush opened his drawer and started implementing what already in these drawers from files , map , new world order , divide to conquer file , ethnic cleansing , sectarian file ... economy ... greater Israel ... and on and on ...
he started from Afghanistan even Taliban said to american at that time , ''' if you gave us evidence that someone from inside Afghanistan did this atrocities(9/11) , we will handed him over to you as soon as possible and put him in prison for trial ... but USA went ahead and invaded that country . killing over 1 million ...
then Mr dick and his associate, Rumsfeld , Paul wolf.. ... and others ... came out very happily saying they could do two 2 war at the same time ... and even 3 or 4 .......afterward anywhere in the world
so ,they went to Saddam with pretext he had mass destruction weapon ... then conquer that country and destroy it ... bring Iran in and giving that country to it to run it ...
now job finished and done for bush and his associate , they went to camp David to relax and play golf ... now forgotten while they left behind them so many contradiction between human right that USA claim to have, and gtm, ......between freedom and occupation at the same time ... and other issues ..
USA felt heat and isolated and strategic mistake then ... , looked for someone who is different color to do exactly the same job , but in different way ... sometimes soft , sometimes in aggressive way , sometimes by force ... he is : Mr OOOObama !!!!
Mr Obama rely on drones to save money and soldiers , so he went to Yemen ... Somalia ... Sudan ... and elsewhere ...
one thing that USA was not calculating and was not anticipating was that those puppet regime who were supporting the plan of bush and his ancestors ... have been rooted out ... gaddafi was the leader of the crooks , followed by the thief of Tunisia , and then by mubarak the pheroah of Egypt .. nd then saleh of yemen ...
the cause of USA policy colonial and killing machine and oppression done to middle east people + the clear collaborations of those leaders+ poverty + oppression and luck of justice in those countries ..... and dictatorship lead to a serious revolution ...
people feed up and want an end to this game ....
now we are dealing with another mini-dictator bashr the ruthless regime who oppressed and killed his own people over and alawite sect ruling over 40 years , since France put them there ....
the battle for Damascus is fast approaching .... and the drama continue .......
But such facts are not enough -- because for YOU the true question is whether civilians killed by the war are "unnecessary". I need to ask whether YOU think the civilian deaths were necessary or not. I clearly believe they were necessary to oust Saddam and save the lives he would have murdered, to free the children from prison, etc. -- in fact more necessary than the atomic bombs to force Japan's surrender Are YOU willing to accept Muslim fanatic terrorists with WMDs, or Muslim theocracy, rather than fight for Western/ Christian/ Capitalist/ Freedom, then indeed comparing death rates doesn't mean much.
why do not you save 1000 and kill no one , in fcat feed 1000, support them ... in this case you could have won heir loyalty and trust ...
and if you do not want to comapre death rates and defend your values , that's fine , no problem , since others are doing the same with their values ... but majority of observers say that the way you fight for your values / chritians/ capitalist/freedom ... is wrong ... the way it has been conducted make people run away from these values ....
the method is wrong ,,,, the content is wrong due to mentality of others ...
to have quite , you need to have ingerdient for it , but these ingredients are not there at the moment in the middle east .. non existent
tsk tsk
But such facts are not enough -- because for YOU the true question is whether civilians killed by the war are "unnecessary". I need to ask whether YOU think the civilian deaths were necessary or not. I clearly believe they were necessary to oust Saddam and save the lives he would have murdered, to free the children from prison, etc. -- in fact more necessary than the atomic bombs to force Japan's surrender Are YOU willing to accept Muslim fanatic terrorists with WMDs, or Muslim theocracy, rather than fight for Western/ Christian/ Capitalist/ Freedom, then indeed comparing death rates doesn't mean much.
But such facts are not enough -- because for YOU the true question is whether civilians killed by the war are "unnecessary". I need to ask whether YOU think the civilian deaths were necessary or not. I clearly believe they were necessary to oust Saddam and save the lives he would have murdered, to free the children from prison, etc. -- in fact more necessary than the atomic bombs to force Japan's surrender Are YOU willing to accept Muslim fanatic terrorists with WMDs, or Muslim theocracy, rather than fight for Western/ Christian/ Capitalist/ Freedom, then indeed comparing death rates doesn't mean much.
"REST of the middle east"
To funny.
But such facts are not enough -- because for YOU the true question is whether civilians killed by the war are "unnecessary". I need to ask whether YOU think the civilian deaths were necessary or not. I clearly believe they were necessary to oust Saddam and save the lives he would have murdered, to free the children from prison, etc. -- in fact more necessary than the atomic bombs to force Japan's surrender Are YOU willing to accept Muslim fanatic terrorists with WMDs, or Muslim theocracy, rather than fight for Western/ Christian/ Capitalist/ Freedom, then indeed comparing death rates doesn't mean much.
You posted a bunch of bs it wasn't up to us to police Iraq and the WMD's they found were old and pretty useless and none of what you posted changes the fact your blog here is incorrect...
Nothing you post is going to change that fact..
"During the 16 Years of the Clinton/Bush era the Middle East was fairly quiet?
But such facts are not enough -- because for YOU the true question is whether civilians killed by the war are "unnecessary". I need to ask whether YOU think the civilian deaths were necessary or not. I clearly believe they were necessary to oust Saddam and save the lives he would have murdered, to free the children from prison, etc. -- in fact more necessary than the atomic bombs to force Japan's surrender Are YOU willing to accept Muslim fanatic terrorists with WMDs, or Muslim theocracy, rather than fight for Western/ Christian/ Capitalist/ Freedom, then indeed comparing death rates doesn't mean much.
But such facts are not enough -- because for YOU the true question is whether civilians killed by the war are "unnecessary". I need to ask whether YOU think the civilian deaths were necessary or not. I clearly believe they were necessary to oust Saddam and save the lives he would have murdered, to free the children from prison, etc. -- in fact more necessary than the atomic bombs to force Japan's surrender Are YOU willing to accept Muslim fanatic terrorists with WMDs, or Muslim theocracy, rather than fight for Western/ Christian/ Capitalist/ Freedom, then indeed comparing death rates doesn't mean much.
If you feel a burning desire to ask someone something, then ask yourself why you'd make such a demonstrably ridiculous claim in the first place.
The fighting there is grounded in religion...far from politics, but it is in the hands of political leaders to come together for these "peace talks & negotiations"....the situation is so much more complex than it appears.