Doesn't ANYBODY Speak English Anymore????
snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
2012/05/25 01:59:00
What are your experiences with ppl who refuse to speak English??
Example: In California it is getting harder to find a McDonald's that speaks English!
Example: In California it is getting harder to find a McDonald's that speaks English!
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Ken 2012/05/25 02:03:01





















The State of Michigan now asks to push a number if you speak 'Arabic'
We see a lot of Mexican flags being flown on houses & buildings, with no American flag to be found anywhere near them. Conservatives want to have English as the Official Language of the USA, but as yet we haven't enough conservatives in Congress to get the thing passed, & to date, liberals need the Mexican & Vietnamese population votes.
I live in Germany. Generally speaking, German people hate to hear so many foreign languages spoken around them all the time. Rarely do foreigners speak good, clear, understandable German... me included (I muddle through enough to be understood). They are frustrated most about the Turkish, though the fact is, the Turks not speaking German is the Germans' fault (but that's another issue). The French are the same about their language, etc.
However, the United States is, by its very nature, a mixture of people from all over the world. Our culture & society are mixed up & combing more & more. The fact that there are so many languages used in our nation only makes sense. The fact that Spanish is the largest foreign language used ...&&
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I live in Germany. Generally speaking, German people hate to hear so many foreign languages spoken around them all the time. Rarely do foreigners speak good, clear, understandable German... me included (I muddle through enough to be understood). They are frustrated most about the Turkish, though the fact is, the Turks not speaking German is the Germans' fault (but that's another issue). The French are the same about their language, etc.
However, the United States is, by its very nature, a mixture of people from all over the world. Our culture & society are mixed up & combing more & more. The fact that there are so many languages used in our nation only makes sense. The fact that Spanish is the largest foreign language used also makes sense because of the number of immigrants from Spanish speaking nations. But it was not that long ago that the largest foreign language used was German. In many areas of the plains & other states, there are still communities where very very little (if any) English is spoken & the predominant language is still German. If you go to Louisiana, you'd better have some French in your background, or it's going to be hard as hell to get your butt out of jail. Most of the laws there are still in French.
There is no official language of the United States.
Personally, I have no problem with the multi-cultural mix of languages because the multi-cultural mix of our people is one of the very best things about America. The idea that there is some sort of "white history" is so silly. What the hell does " white" mean? It means a mix of European backgrounds... cultures that have very often not gotten along back in the Old World. So America's version of White Supremacy is so absurd it's laughable. It simply makes no sense whatsoever. And there will never be a nation on this planet that is pure. Because of globalization & our love of travel, it is simply ludicrous to waste time thinking about such a thing.
Americans are everyone from everywhere.
I encourage young people everywhere to find someone from a different racial or cultural background, fall in love, make a baby or two & love those babies with all their might. The more happy, beige babies there are, the less hate there will be. Racism is so ignorant it's laughable... except that it isn't laughable at all.
Language is simply a means of communicating messages... which the Internet has proven doesn't need much skill at all.
But we too, in the US, have a similar situation. I have a hell of a time understanding someone from the Boston area or certain parts of Kentucky or Louisiana. In England, the accents are also very distinct & sometimes very harsh. Not to mention that no one understands the Welsh at all... & they speak English as well.
Language is an evolving, fluctuating thing. It's only a means of communicating messages. It has some identifying characteristics, especially in its grammar. But it isn't something stagnant or permanent in any way.
In the US, however, we have the problem of fear associated with language. We are afraid of having to learn something new, having to hear something we are not used to. When an "outsider" goes into an isolated area of the US & speaks, he/she is immediately identified as an outsider & is often shunned out of fear. Those of use who are educated call it ignorance. But such fear is not res...&
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But we too, in the US, have a similar situation. I have a hell of a time understanding someone from the Boston area or certain parts of Kentucky or Louisiana. In England, the accents are also very distinct & sometimes very harsh. Not to mention that no one understands the Welsh at all... & they speak English as well.
Language is an evolving, fluctuating thing. It's only a means of communicating messages. It has some identifying characteristics, especially in its grammar. But it isn't something stagnant or permanent in any way.
In the US, however, we have the problem of fear associated with language. We are afraid of having to learn something new, having to hear something we are not used to. When an "outsider" goes into an isolated area of the US & speaks, he/she is immediately identified as an outsider & is often shunned out of fear. Those of use who are educated call it ignorance. But such fear is not restricted to those in isolated circumstances, unless one considers most of American isolated. There are many in the general public who share those same fears of outside languages coming into our nation & somehow taking over.
I, on the other hand, believe that our constitution is the most vital part of our nation. It is the one thing that should, indeed, bind all of our states & all of our people together. Yes, it's written in English. However, were Spanish or German or Latvian speaking people to be in the majority in our government & abide by our constitution & run our nation well, I personally would not mind one smidge. It seems that all these English speaking individuals have been shredding our constitution & removing our liberties. I don't care what language is spoken, as long as our constitution & laws are abided by.
I know. I'm in the minority. Most Americans are as completely ignorant of their constitution as they are of other languages. The Constitution could have been written in Latin for as much as most Americans know about it.
Now we're worried about Muslims & would welcome another Catholic.
Our nation is built & survives now because of its diversity & continued absorption of foreigners.
You've got to admit, though, that Germany is smack dab in the middle of about 6 countries that all speak different languages, with a continent that is made up of 47 countries. My state (Texas) alone is more than twice the size of Germany, I think. Europeans seem to think we're snobs, lazy or something because we don't learn other languages, but seriously, why should we when Mexico is the only country we interact with regularly that speaks a different language? Even if we learned other languages, who would we practice on to keep up our language skills? Also, if you note, most of the world has learned to speak English to some extent, so I suppose we've become spoiled in that degree, but I don't think it was intentional.
Yes, most nations are quite different from each other, with their own unique cultures. However, there really is no other nation like the US where it is made up specifically of every other culture melded (or not so melded) together. Our music is a combination of the Irish/Celtic & African roots, our people are just about all mottled, our food is varied, etc. The "American culture" is distinct in that it's mixed, while other nations are distinct in that they're from some pure, or almost pure, something. That's the difference.
When a person learns other languages, they expand their knowledge of other cultures, other ways of thinking, etc. One cannot learn a language without learning something about how the culture thinks... it's impossible. So that alone is a very good reason... getting rid of a bit of ignorance. Another reason for us to learn other languages is because of our culture & its diversity. It's good to have a better understanding of the world & the idea that Americans come from all over the world, so to have a better understanding of our own people is beneficial. Again, getting rid of a bit of ignorance.
The United States is just one nation out of a whole world of nations. The people from other nations love theirs ...
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Yes, most nations are quite different from each other, with their own unique cultures. However, there really is no other nation like the US where it is made up specifically of every other culture melded (or not so melded) together. Our music is a combination of the Irish/Celtic & African roots, our people are just about all mottled, our food is varied, etc. The "American culture" is distinct in that it's mixed, while other nations are distinct in that they're from some pure, or almost pure, something. That's the difference.
When a person learns other languages, they expand their knowledge of other cultures, other ways of thinking, etc. One cannot learn a language without learning something about how the culture thinks... it's impossible. So that alone is a very good reason... getting rid of a bit of ignorance. Another reason for us to learn other languages is because of our culture & its diversity. It's good to have a better understanding of the world & the idea that Americans come from all over the world, so to have a better understanding of our own people is beneficial. Again, getting rid of a bit of ignorance.
The United States is just one nation out of a whole world of nations. The people from other nations love theirs as much as we love ours. Sometimes they know that in order to have a better life they have to leave where they're from for better opportunities. But that does not mean that they love their country less. It just means that they are able to recognize that they are not afforded the chance to rise out of their current station. Most people who leave their nation think that they will one day return to make it better. That's usually their intention, though they often find the it's just easier to stay where they end up.
So, when Americans walk around thinking that everyone wants to be in America, they are incorrect. There are many people who want to go to the States, but not because they hate their homeland. They want to go to the States to get education or to make some money or to escape oppression of whatever sort. But I've lived on three other continents & traveled to two more, & I can tell you that I have yet to meet anyone who hates their homeland, who doesn't love their homeland... even if they want to leave it.
I love my nation. I love my constitution. I would fight for my people & our liberties if I had to. But I choose not to live there. I choose to live in other nations because of the opportunities afforded me in other places, not because I hate my country.
Complacency is laziness. "Why should we?" What a silly question.
The real question is, "Why shouldn't we?" "Why not?"
Education is always always always positive. I would never discourage anyone from gaining more knowledge & more education... never.
There are people in other nations who would die for the opportunity to be educated. We can be educated so easily, yet we take it for granted & think that we're just fine without it. Man! That is arrogance at its peak.
I appreciate your lengthy discussion of the issues, & we'll have to agree to disagree on a number of points. I am a college professor, so it's not like I've become stagnate & taken education for granted, and I know enough Spanish to get me by, but since I rarely run into a person who speaks Vietnamese, Chinese, French, German, Ebonics, etc., it is impracticable for me to spend an inordinate amount of time learning those languages, only to let them go to waste. Like you, I do believe it's good to understand others' cultures, but please excuse me for being proud of my country & believing we are united by a common language, flag, culture, ideology, God and exceptionalism. And yes, I am quite aware of all of those waning as our country continues its decline.
The younger generations will most likely learn more languages, as we continue to move toward the evils of globalization; either that, or the more logical thing would be for all the world to learn one langu...&
I appreciate your lengthy discussion of the issues, & we'll have to agree to disagree on a number of points. I am a college professor, so it's not like I've become stagnate & taken education for granted, and I know enough Spanish to get me by, but since I rarely run into a person who speaks Vietnamese, Chinese, French, German, Ebonics, etc., it is impracticable for me to spend an inordinate amount of time learning those languages, only to let them go to waste. Like you, I do believe it's good to understand others' cultures, but please excuse me for being proud of my country & believing we are united by a common language, flag, culture, ideology, God and exceptionalism. And yes, I am quite aware of all of those waning as our country continues its decline.
The younger generations will most likely learn more languages, as we continue to move toward the evils of globalization; either that, or the more logical thing would be for all the world to learn one language so that there would be more continuity, less misinformation & misunderstanding, and the great leader of the world run by a tyrant or dictator will not have to use translations.
Had we wanted to be an extension of Europe, we wouldn't have battled & won against England in the American Revolutionary War. If we wanted to be an extension of Mexico, we wouldn't have battled and won the War of Independence from Mexico.
If you want to live & work in America but do not want to even try to learn to speak out language GET THE F- CK OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I find it always amusing in a tortured kind of way that we have to be bi-lingual here, and mono-lingual in Mexico, and even though English is now the lingua franca for the business world, most have to pray for the kindness of strangers when visiting other parts of the world.
My Mother in law also met many of the 40's and 50's greats, like the "Duke" while working at a radio station.
Logic & reason. No matter which nation one travels to, when it comes to doing business with foreigners, the third language everyone meets in is English... everywhere.
Funny, there are more people on the planet who speak Mandarin as their native language than any other.
Second is Spanish.
Third is English.
Fourth is Hindi.
However, because of globalization, English is now spoken by more people generally than any other.
Why do you think you should be able to travel to India or Guatemala & speak English when you demand those travelers to speak English when visiting the US? Double standard anyone?
The US has no official language, which makes perfect sense since we have no official background. Americans are, by our very nature, everyone from everywhere.
That is the beauty of America.
I expect that when a nation send 20% of it's citizens here, and the vast majority of them have only alliegence to Mexico we need to be careful of who we give alliengence to.
If you want to be able to speak Mandarin, I would suggest you go to China, and if you want to speak Spanish emmigrate to a Spanish speaking country. I have taken years of Spanish, and am maried to a full blooded Panamanian whose blood family is spanish speaking Panamanians, but here they speak english, and should I go to other countries, I'd better learn their language so that I can get something to eat and not rely on the "kindness of strangers".
We are diverse.
It does make us strong.
What's the problem?
Or are you one of those who has some sort of dream of a "pure" nation? What the hell would a "pure" nation look like? In America, what does "white" mean? Do you consider only Europeans "white?" So, those from Greece, Italy, Portugal, etc. are also in that group? What about the French & the English, who have always hated each other? And the White Russians & the Dutch? What say you of the Turkish & Russians, who are both European & Asian? You see, "white" in America is ridiculous. The idea of a "white America" is even more ridiculous. It simply makes no sense whatsoever. Our nation's black people have so much white in them that they are often as or more "white" as so-called "white" people.
Did you know that people from India are actually Caucasian? So, where do they fit into your idea?
Diversity is a characteristic of our nation. The fact that we have to live together, with all of our cultural heritages & all of our colors & traits, does indeed make us stronger. We are all Americans. There is no changing that. So, it's better that you accept it.
Yes, I do believe that our strength does indeed lie in our diversity. The idea that you think our dive...
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We are diverse.
It does make us strong.
What's the problem?
Or are you one of those who has some sort of dream of a "pure" nation? What the hell would a "pure" nation look like? In America, what does "white" mean? Do you consider only Europeans "white?" So, those from Greece, Italy, Portugal, etc. are also in that group? What about the French & the English, who have always hated each other? And the White Russians & the Dutch? What say you of the Turkish & Russians, who are both European & Asian? You see, "white" in America is ridiculous. The idea of a "white America" is even more ridiculous. It simply makes no sense whatsoever. Our nation's black people have so much white in them that they are often as or more "white" as so-called "white" people.
Did you know that people from India are actually Caucasian? So, where do they fit into your idea?
Diversity is a characteristic of our nation. The fact that we have to live together, with all of our cultural heritages & all of our colors & traits, does indeed make us stronger. We are all Americans. There is no changing that. So, it's better that you accept it.
Yes, I do believe that our strength does indeed lie in our diversity. The idea that you think our diversity makes us weaker, only makes us weaker. Do you see the logic?
...& take your political divisiveness & stuff it. I believe in unity, not division. To divide us is to weaken our nation. I want a strong America & anyone who participates in dividing our people is behaving in anti-American ways I cannot respect. You don't have to like your neighbor. But the idea that your neighbor is somehow less American than you because of his/her origins is simply retarded.
What is, is & what ain't, ain't. We have to deal with logic & reason based in reality, not emotional desires based in fantasy.
What you posted is completely illogical.
But alas... things do change. It is the one constant in life.