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Does the 10th Amendment mean a state can leave the country at any time?

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Yes, the 10th Amendment means a state can leave the country at any time.
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Gov. Rick Perry has stood up to defend the sate of Texas' rights under the 10th Amendment. Perry believes that Texas has the right to do whatever it wants. In simple terms, the 10th Amendment says that the United States Constitution gives each state its own power, freedom, sovereignty and jurisdiction that is not already expressly prohibited by the country.

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  • DRLJR 2009/04/15 01:46:55
    I think that under the 10th Amendment, a state can...
    DRLJR
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    None of the answers are correct. We fought a Civil War about succession. Once a State is part of the Union it is always a part of the Union. There is a procedure to enter but none to leave the Union. However, Texas can divide itself into 5 different States I believe based upon its original admittance to the Union. The 10th Amendment address what powers the Federal Government has, which the States have and what is up to the Citizens.

    The Federal Government has been violating the 10th Amendment for years as have many States. Article 1, Section 8 and several other Amendments detail what power the Federal Government has. It may not do anything else. Everyone should get a copy of the US Constitution and read it and then compare what the Federal Government is doing with the list of powers the Federal Government is doing. Most of what the Federal Government is doing is unconstitutional. And many of the States are violating the restrictions as well.

    The US Constitution is not a "living" document that can be redefined when what the text states is inconvenient. It is because people have been doing this for more than 100 years we have the current problems. The US Constitution is a BLUEPRINT for a Representative Government. Image building a deck, house, boat, ship, b...""'

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    None of the answers are correct. We fought a Civil War about succession. Once a State is part of the Union it is always a part of the Union. There is a procedure to enter but none to leave the Union. However, Texas can divide itself into 5 different States I believe based upon its original admittance to the Union. The 10th Amendment address what powers the Federal Government has, which the States have and what is up to the Citizens.

    The Federal Government has been violating the 10th Amendment for years as have many States. Article 1, Section 8 and several other Amendments detail what power the Federal Government has. It may not do anything else. Everyone should get a copy of the US Constitution and read it and then compare what the Federal Government is doing with the list of powers the Federal Government is doing. Most of what the Federal Government is doing is unconstitutional. And many of the States are violating the restrictions as well.

    The US Constitution is not a "living" document that can be redefined when what the text states is inconvenient. It is because people have been doing this for more than 100 years we have the current problems. The US Constitution is a BLUEPRINT for a Representative Government. Image building a deck, house, boat, ship, bridge or building using the blueprints as a "living document" that can be changed at the whim of the people building it. It would be a disaster - the structure would collapse or boat/ship sink. We need to get back to the BLUEPRINT and follow it. The Founding Father's wrote an excellent document that if followed will give us just the amount of Government we need and no more.

    Also, remember, it was "Progressives", like Hillary Clinton claims she is, that gave us the disaster of "prohibition" in the form of the 18th Amendment. "Progressives" are the same thing we call Socialist, Marxists and Liberals today. Look past the pretty names, such as "Progressive", and look at what they did, actually stand for and support. And then ask yourself do you really want to go down that route? It was Progressives that support eugenics, euthanasia and forced sterilizing of "undesirables". The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment was type of things progressive believed in. The founder of Planned Parenthood was also a eugenics and racist. It is important to remember that "Progressive" have no problem re-writing history. Just look at how the history of the fall of the USSR is being re-written. Apparently, Gorbachev is being given credit today even though Ronald Regan refusal to keep giving in to the USSR is what forced the USSR to real reform which lead to the elimination of the USSR. Gorbachev was the fourth USSR dictator Regan dealt with.

    Everyone should get a copy of the US Constitution, the Article of Confederation (preceded the US Constitution) , their State Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and read them. What they state may shock you - especially in light of what is going on today.
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  • walter2008 Paige 2009/04/14 23:49:41
    walter2008
    +2
    One
    Big
    Assed
    Mistake,
    America.

    What's that spell?
  • JBee walter2008 2009/04/15 01:36:42
    JBee
    +1
    So right. You must be a working person who pays taxes. Thank You!
  • middles... JBee 2009/04/15 06:58:28
    middlesex1957
    JBee, one of these days you're going to find out just what it means to become crippled and not be able to work. Or you're going to have a baby or grandbaby who is crippled and won't be able to work. The man who hung from that cross you've desicrated with a national flag taught you that if you do not care for the poor, orphans, widows, elderly and crippled who can not work for a living you turn your back on Him. You turn your back on God everytime you deify workers and slander those God Himself told us to spend our money on. He told us that to those who have been given much, much is expected. Do you remember the parabell of the widow who gave her last penny? He exalted her over the rich jerks who threw in a fist full of coins they'd earned. Jesus judges us by the mercy we show the weak. Your taxes are paid to help those less fortunate than yourself. If you don't learn your lesson the easy way and stop your arrogance against the poor, sick and helpless you'll find yourself as one of us soon enough and have to beg people like you not to cut services you need to survive. You call it on yourself everytime you pray the prayer Jesus taught us. Our Father who art in heaven...
  • Partsman middles... 2009/04/16 14:00:14
    Partsman
    You're right, Jesus told us to help the poor and the down trodden. He told US to help. Jesus did not tell us to send all of our money to a government that wastes most of the money on paperwork, over paid employees, and government irresponsibility. If I see someone that needs a hand up, not a handout, I help, and you should also. As for the confiscatory tax rates and social engineering that the left is forcing on us, sounds a lot more like the government that put Jesus to death.
  • Chiliayo walter2008 2009/04/15 18:02:58
    Chiliayo
    That's right. George Bush--he's our man. He lied us into a war. He bankrupted the country. Oh..but he loves Jesus!
  • Barb 2009/04/14 23:37:33 (edited)
    No. The 10th Amendment only gives states a limited power.
    Barb
    +1
    Which has been taken away for the most part, the federal government is doing things that the states used to do. We need to stop that. Are you going to send a virtual teabag to the highest Dems? I did. Got an email from Steele at RNC
  • walter2008 2009/04/14 23:33:44
    Yes, the 10th Amendment means a state can leave the country at any time.
    walter2008
    +2
    As soon as they do, I'm moving to Texas.
  • sd walter2008 2009/04/14 23:39:42
    sd
    hey, me too , walter
  • Poppins 2009/04/14 23:33:10
    No. The 10th Amendment only gives states a limited power.
    Poppins
    +1
    if it were the case that they could....there should have been no civil war.....
  • jayssi 2009/04/14 23:30:21
    No. The 10th Amendment only gives states a limited power.
    jayssi
    how fast can they leave.
  • garygovernment 2009/04/14 23:29:50
    No. The 10th Amendment only gives states a limited power.
    garygovernment
    +1
    Irecall from History that Texas and several other states(i.e. The Confederacy) tried that once before and The Union disproved that theory. Personally, since through past political power Texas receives more federal spending in relation to their taxes paid then do the northern and eastern states, it would be alright with me if they seceded.
  • JC 2009/04/14 23:23:07
    Yes, the 10th Amendment means a state can leave the country at any time.
    JC
    Hell Yes!,.. and California ought to join them.
  • nyc conservative gal 2009/04/14 23:21:19
    I think that under the 10th Amendment, a state can...
    nyc conservative gal
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    None of these choices are correct!!!!!

    The 10th amendment gives the state sovereignty and the FEDERAL govt LIMITED power. The federal govt as per the Constitution, only has power that is NOT delegated to the states. Meaning the power is to the states, and anything not specifically designated would default to the federal govt. The founders thought it was best if the power was local, and the reps would be held accountable. The federal govt was to have very limited power.

    What we have today is not in accordance with the Constitution and is a violation. The fed govt is totally out of control and not within its designated Constitutional power.

    The states are AFFIRMING their sovereignty, which is not the same as seccession. The sovereignty affirmation is to enforce the states rights in accordance with the Constitution and stop the fed govt from forcing itself upon the states.
  • Cindy 2009/04/14 23:19:26 (edited)
    I think that under the 10th Amendment, a state can...
    Cindy
    I think the 10th amendment is being used now so that the states' individual rights are not swallowed by the feds....which is a good thing. But I think Texas has a different agreement because of its state's constitution.
  • 12 Tone Melody 2009/04/14 22:57:27
    Yes, the 10th Amendment means a state can leave the country at any time.
    12 Tone Melody
    Not ANY state, but IIRC, under the treaty by which the Republic of Texas joined the United States, Texas by a vote of its citizens, can either leave the Union or divide itself into as many as 5 states
  • NahNah 2009/04/14 22:44:26
    No. The 10th Amendment only gives states a limited power.
    NahNah
    +1
    The Tenth Amendment is similar to an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: "Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled."[1] After the Constitution was ratified, some wanted to add a similar amendment limiting the federal government to powers "expressly" delegated, which would have denied implied powers.[2] However, the word "expressly" ultimately did not appear in the Tenth Amendment as ratified, and therefore the Tenth Amendment did not amend the Necessary and Proper Clause.
    The Tenth Amendment, which makes explicit the idea that the federal government is limited only to the powers granted in the Constitution is generally recognized to be a truism. In United States v. Sprague (1931) the Supreme Court noted that the amendment "added nothing to the [Constitution] as originally ratified."
    From time to time states and local governments have attempted to assert exemption from various federal regulations, especially in the areas of labor and environmental controls, using the Tenth Amendment as a basis for their claim. An often-repeated quote, from United States v. Darby, 312 U.S. 100, 124 (1941), reads as follows:
    The...
    The Tenth Amendment is similar to an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: "Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled."[1] After the Constitution was ratified, some wanted to add a similar amendment limiting the federal government to powers "expressly" delegated, which would have denied implied powers.[2] However, the word "expressly" ultimately did not appear in the Tenth Amendment as ratified, and therefore the Tenth Amendment did not amend the Necessary and Proper Clause.
    The Tenth Amendment, which makes explicit the idea that the federal government is limited only to the powers granted in the Constitution is generally recognized to be a truism. In United States v. Sprague (1931) the Supreme Court noted that the amendment "added nothing to the [Constitution] as originally ratified."
    From time to time states and local governments have attempted to assert exemption from various federal regulations, especially in the areas of labor and environmental controls, using the Tenth Amendment as a basis for their claim. An often-repeated quote, from United States v. Darby, 312 U.S. 100, 124 (1941), reads as follows:
    The amendment states but a truism that all is retained which has not been surrendered. There is nothing in the history of its adoption to suggest that it was more than declaratory of the relationship between the national and state governments as it had been established by the Constitution before the amendment or that its purpose was other than to allay fears that the new national government might seek to exercise powers not granted, and that the states might not be able to exercise fully their reserved powers.
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  • kmay 2009/04/14 21:25:39 (edited)
    I think that under the 10th Amendment, a state can...
    kmay
    +3
    Can do everything Perry says. He did not say anything about leaving the country.

    Democrat or Republican:
    ASK YOUR REPS TO SUPPORT A BILL LIKE 'HCR 50'
    - "STATE SOVEREIGNTY" PER THE CONSTITUTION
    http://www.tmra2.org/webblog/...

    The Fed Gov has been ovstepping it's constitutional boundaries for decades and needs to be reeled in....did you know the IRS is un-constitutional as it is structured as are many Fed Depts? Read the Constitution. This is why the T.E.A. Parties tomorrow are important 1st steps is "We the People" taking OUR Gov back....our Reps work for us NOT tfhemselves.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2009/04/14 20:28:47
    I think that under the 10th Amendment, a state can...
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    The amendment gives states the power to pass laws, etc., as long as there is no opposing federal power. It's why Oregon (and Washington, I think) have a Die with Dignity--doctor assisted suicide, and how some states have allowed same-sex marriages, and how the 11 + states have passed medical marijuana laws.
  • Cindy ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2009/04/14 23:22:21
    Cindy
    +1
    the die with dignity law did in fact pass here in WA state.
  • AliasOther ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2009/04/15 11:59:35
    AliasOther
    I love to here people talk about things like this. Blacks use ta get so much grief about conspiracy theories and how law were made to hinder them. Now we have a black president and look at all the whites trying to separate from the USA and coming up with even less factual conspiracies. I didn't hear this type of talk under george bush. What's different now?
    Enjoy the next 4 years. You haven't seen nothing yet. hahahahahaha
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ AliasOther 2009/04/15 19:32:33
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    Anything, and I mean ANYTHING is better than the past eight!!! hahahahahaha

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