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Does Sarah Palin's Hunting Make You More or Less of a Fan?

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Davey Crockett, Daniel Boone and ... Sarah Palin?

The first two remind you of the untamed West, but Palin, former governor of Alaska (and future U.S. president?), is charting her own present path through some of the untamed 49th state. Well, at least she's hunting for caribou in her home state.

In an episode of "Sarah Palin's Alaska," Palin, hunting with her father, show's she's a great shot and tweaks "anti-hunting hypocrisy," according to ABC News.

"Tonight's hunting episode of Sarah Palin's Alaska 'controversial'? Really? Unless you've never worn leather shoes, sat upon a leather couch or eaten a piece of meat, save your condemnation of tonight's episode. I remain proudly intolerant of anti-hunting hypocrisy. :)" Palin posted on Facebook and Twitter.

Palin also takes a shot at animal rights group PETA and the portions of land in Alaska where oil excavation is banned.

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  • Lanikai 2010/12/06 20:16:23
    More of a fan
    Lanikai
    +31
    At least when she hunts, ( the picture above shows fishing, not hunting) she normally shoots only what she and her family can consume and they use the entire animal. Todd's Alaskan Indian heritage people use the innards, and the hdes. So, she is way better them say, any hollywierd celeb who goes on a hunting expedition to Africa to kill animals as trophies only, OR the environazis who would rather th eherd get too large and die of starvation and diseaes rather then be humanely killed and consumed.

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  • busyboots jubil8 ... 2010/12/07 04:46:31
    busyboots
    +1
    Sounds good, but dosen't wash. Killer Whales will kill & toss Seals about, just for the fun of it and usually don't eat the Seals. Hunting is fun for thousands of Americans (not me), but that does not make it barbaric. You are making it barbaric in your mind...your choice. If it wasn't for hunters, having fun, or not, the deer population in the Florida Everglades would get so large that they would starve to death. The State of Florida has to pereodically extend hunting seasons or sometimes allow a new season just to cull the herd. If you're going to comment here, get your facts correct. You will fool no one.
  • jubil8 ... busyboots 2010/12/07 05:02:02
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    The reason states have to extend the deer season is that man has killed off the natural predators. Florida is hardly the only state where that happens, you know. My facts are perfectly straight, and you're right -- how I feel about killing animals is my choice. Bullying is always fun for the bullies. It's silly to say I won't fool anyone -- I wouldn't waste my time trying in the first place. I'm always open to learning facts.
  • Fr Kelsey Graham 2010/12/07 03:07:20
    None of the above
    Fr Kelsey Graham
    +2
    Sarah who???
  • DeborahLakeHelen 2010/12/07 03:06:42
    More of a fan
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +4
    I love to hunt, so any woman who hunts is a friend of mine!
  • Kaimeso 2010/12/07 03:05:11
    None of the above
    Kaimeso
    +6
    Neither, I used to hunt and now I don't. But for me the question is not if she hunts but how she goes about it. Most people eat meat of some sort, hunting your own just makes you honest about what you are eating.

    As for PETA, I think I might be a member,.. People Eating Tasty Animals.
  • Vipor_GG Kaimeso 2010/12/07 03:12:47
    Vipor_GG
    +3
    There is a group on facebook called People Eating Tasty Animals.
  • Lucy Kaimeso 2010/12/07 03:20:59
    Lucy
    +1
    Now why would you want to belittle sensitive people who simply want animals to be treated with kindness and understanding that they feel fear, pain and suffering?
  • Kaimeso Lucy 2010/12/07 03:44:12
    Kaimeso
    +2
    PETA is nothing but a bunch of nearly insane wacko's that might have started out as something good, but now are just a bunch of hostile human hating extortionist. For example when the Iowa congressman shot a racoon trying to get into his house PETA went nuts and is causing him no end of trouble. Obviously never heard that Racoons become agressive when infected with rabies.

    Then of course PETA believes every person who owns a pet is a vicious slave master.

    Lets see, then there is Ingrid Newkirk, 53, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), who has chosen to donate her body to her organization for use in a variety of startling protests.

    The list goes on and on, but I have no respect for these PETA loons who do things to hurt children,..

    http://www.citizensreport.org...
  • Lucy Kaimeso 2010/12/07 03:48:43
    Lucy
    Now how am I supposed to know who told you these things; if the writers of this information are telling the truth? How does PETA ever hurt children? Just because some members of PETA are crazy does not mean everything is. I am a member and I think people should have pets and I could care less what Newkirk does with her dead body. I am not a loon, just sensitive. If the raccoon came in during the day and was obviously rabid, yes the guy could shoot him, but otherwise he needed to get a wildlife guy and trap it.
  • Kaimeso Lucy 2010/12/07 04:37:10
    Kaimeso
    The leaders of PETA are crazy which means the organization is run by a bunch of crazy people. Do a little research to see who you are supporting,...

    Do you have any idea how much damage a Racoon can do in the hours (or days) it takes a wildlife officer to respond? The main indication of a sick Racoon is doing something odd or be agressive, a normal person is not going to take a chance when a Racoon is trying to get in their house.
  • ☆Snapef... Kaimeso 2010/12/07 05:16:38
    ☆Snapefangirl☆
    +1
    I'm a Wiccan (anti-hunting for the most part, treating animals with respect) and even I think PETA is nuts.
  • Kaimeso ☆Snapef... 2010/12/07 16:33:13
    Kaimeso
    +1
    That is the part the PETA nuts don't get, animals can be treated with respect without going all out nuts over everything. Like I said in my post, I used to go hunting (mostly with my grandfather) where he taught me how not to be completely dependent on the grocery store for food and other things. He made sure I learned to use most every part of the animal so not much would be wasted.
    I don't need to do it now but at least I know how and have made an attempt to pass that knowledge along,... much to the objection of the PETA nuts.
  • busyboots Lucy 2010/12/07 04:49:05
    busyboots
    Be sure to treat that Grizzley you meet up with in the woods with kindness.
  • Denny 2010/12/07 03:05:00
    None of the above
    Denny
    +1
    Doesn't matter to me. I grew up with it so someone who does it doesn't offend.
  • Lucy 2010/12/07 03:04:15
    Less of a fan
    Lucy
    +1
    If Sarah Palin were not such a cold-hearted, killer of animals, I might, might listen to her ideas. SInce she is so brutal to animals, there is nothing she could do or say that woudld redeem her to me.
  • Vipor_GG Lucy 2010/12/07 03:15:29
    Vipor_GG
    So with most of the natural predators now gone in America would you prefer that the prey animals over populate and starve?
  • Lucy Vipor_GG 2010/12/07 03:18:51
    Lucy
    +1
    That is just a myth put out by people who advocate hunting. If a person wants to hunt by making it a real sport and giving the animal a chance, I am not going to fight his right. But she does not hunt fairly, is not the kind of person I would want as a leader and does not even say she understands that some people are sensitive when it comes to the innocent being hunted.
  • Vipor_GG Lucy 2010/12/07 03:55:19
    Vipor_GG
    It is not a myth. The white tail deer is a prime example. Here in SC there are no longer any natural predators. The deer population is very high. You see them splattered all along the highways. In many areas they are very poor. In the early 80s we regularly killed deer that were not much more than skin and bone on my Dad's farm. This was with them totally destroying everything we planted. Crops could not even get over 4" tall. It was so bad the wildlife department issued us a permit to shot them out of season. After 2 years of heavy hunting the deer were much larger and heavier. Nature has natural checks and balances. Man removed the checks and balances because they also preyed of livestock. Now we are the only check and balance. Mankind does some of the stupidest things in the name of being humane. We continually feed starving countries when clearly teaching them population control would be much more beneficial. I have seen the same thing done for over populated deer. They put out hay are winter so that more of them survive until next winter and you have even more starving. There is only two practical ways to control a healthy population of prey animals. 1 control them ourselves or 2 reintroduce the nature predators. Do you want wolves and cougars in you back yard?

    What do you...

    It is not a myth. The white tail deer is a prime example. Here in SC there are no longer any natural predators. The deer population is very high. You see them splattered all along the highways. In many areas they are very poor. In the early 80s we regularly killed deer that were not much more than skin and bone on my Dad's farm. This was with them totally destroying everything we planted. Crops could not even get over 4" tall. It was so bad the wildlife department issued us a permit to shot them out of season. After 2 years of heavy hunting the deer were much larger and heavier. Nature has natural checks and balances. Man removed the checks and balances because they also preyed of livestock. Now we are the only check and balance. Mankind does some of the stupidest things in the name of being humane. We continually feed starving countries when clearly teaching them population control would be much more beneficial. I have seen the same thing done for over populated deer. They put out hay are winter so that more of them survive until next winter and you have even more starving. There is only two practical ways to control a healthy population of prey animals. 1 control them ourselves or 2 reintroduce the nature predators. Do you want wolves and cougars in you back yard?

    What do you call "hunting fairly"? How do you make it a "real sport? How do you give the animal a chance?

    There is one form of deer hunting that I have no part in and would actually like to see outlawed. It is called dog hunting. Basically you take two groups, one armed with shotguns and the other with a pack of dogs. The ones with the guns form a line and the ones with the dogs go around and release the dogs that drive the deer from the woods into the line of shotguns.
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  • jubil8 ... Vipor_GG 2010/12/07 04:49:01
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    Dog hunting because giving an animal a sporting chance doesn't appeal to your true bully.
  • Vipor_GG jubil8 ... 2010/12/07 04:59:26
    Vipor_GG
    At least read and comprehend. I clearly stated that I oppose "Dog Hunting". I oppose it for more than one reason, but most of all because it doesn't get the prey any choice in action. There is no sport in driving a deer out of the woods with a pack of dogs into a small arsenal of shotgun blast.
  • jubil8 ... Vipor_GG 2010/12/07 05:08:28
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    I was giving an explanation for dog hunting, not saying you condoned it. What you said was indeed perfectly clear. Maybe you should comprehend.
  • Vipor_GG jubil8 ... 2010/12/07 05:19:14
    Vipor_GG
    +1
    Sorry, but your post wasn't clear on that. You said "your true bully." and it appeared you were talking to me. I was reconsidering that post as I was reading your comment about caribou being dangerous and killing your grass. Sorry for the mistake.
  • jubil8 ... Vipor_GG 2010/12/07 05:49:43
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    Yes, it probably would have been unambiguous had I said "A true bully." Sorry too, and thanks for the apology. It's always nice when someone on SH wants to clear up a misunderstanding rather than escalate.
  • Piperpc Vipor_GG 2010/12/07 03:19:03
    Piperpc
    Since Ms Palin is a champion of killing off natural predators, your point is?
  • jubil8 ... Piperpc 2010/12/07 04:49:48
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    Yep, those caribou sure are dangerous predators -- they might nibble your lawn to death.
  • Piperpc jubil8 ... 2010/12/07 17:25:12
    Piperpc
    Sorry jubil8, I meant to direct that comment to Vipor. These people probably don't know, or care, that Palin spent $4000.00 of tax-payer money to promote the killing of wolves from airplanes. She has a dismal record of not being a friend to wildlife or the environment.
  • jubil8 ... Piperpc 2010/12/07 18:48:39
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    I'd forgotten about the aerial hunting campaign (I remember hearing about it in 08). Yes, responsible stewardship of natural resources does not seem to be a concept she relates to.
  • Piperpc jubil8 ... 2010/12/07 19:54:20
    Piperpc
    Yes, she actively fought to overturn the ban on aerial "hunting" of wolves and other carnivores. She sued against protections for polar bears as endangered or even "threatened", as well as blocking efforts to protect the beluga whale; there are only about 300 left in the area in question. She even denied an indigenous tribe priority rights for hunting over "trophy hunters".
  • Vipor_GG Piperpc 2010/12/07 05:14:38
    Vipor_GG
    Like I said in another post. Do you want wolves and cougars in your back yard? Personally it wouldn't bother me. My point is just what I asked. Keep the population at a healthy level or let them starve.
  • Piperpc Vipor_GG 2010/12/07 18:02:02
    Piperpc
    +2
    If I had a home in their territory, I would consider it THEIR backyard too; certainly I would kill in self-defense, but I wouldn't like it. I agree with several things you said in a former post, and certainly that we have screwed up the natural balance of things by killing off natural predators. If a person is going to eat other animals, killing an over-populated species as humanely as possible is less hypocritical than grabbing a neat package at the grocery, then railing against animal cruelty. I don't see how this applies, exactly, to Palin making killing a "yee-haw" moment for a TV show.
  • Vipor_GG Piperpc 2010/12/08 02:41:29
    Vipor_GG
    You do live in Panther territory and they are not exactly doing well. http://www.floridapanthernet....
    They are beautiful animals and I would hate to see them leave.

    I have never seen her show and not really what you would call a fan. I have no problem with Palin killing caribou, moose, elk or what ever as long as 1 it isn't endangered and 2 she eats what she kills 3 she does it in a sporting way and isn't cruel. I haven't really followed Palin very closely, but I have heard of her aerial hunting. I don't like it and think it should not be allowed.

    I hunt, mostly deer, and I kill them as humanely as I know how. I use a 180grain 30-06 and generally make it a head shot. 99% of the time the animal never hears the shot that killed it. There is also no wasted meat and I'm not one to mount the head and hang it on the wall anyway.
  • Piperpc Vipor_GG 2010/12/08 04:31:05
    Piperpc
    +1
    I am aware of the plight of Florida panthers, and it is indeed sad. Far too many have "died by car", and good grief, it's not like they are hard to see. I haven't looked at the site you posted yet, but I have in the past taken what actions I could to fight for these beautiful animals, and will continue to.
    I see no point in repeating why I find Palin's show repugnant. I do appreciate your courteous response.
  • Vipor_GG Piperpc 2010/12/08 05:22:51
    Vipor_GG
    I lived in Florida and traveled it a great deal for 9 years and only every saw 2 in the wild. I can't really comment on the show. The only part I ever saw was an ad where they were fishing near some bears.
  • Piperpc Vipor_GG 2010/12/08 05:59:04
    Piperpc
    +1
    I saw that too, and wondered why she would have her kids, and the camera crew, near a mamma bear with babies in tow. Simply for profit, for a TV show, when she talks about a "momma bear's tenacity" all the time. Not respectful to a mamma bear at all, don't know what plan they had if that bear had reacted as they often do, but I'm pretty sure there wouldn't have been much consideration for the bears. I have not had the pleasure of seeing a panther in the wild, (might not always be a pleasure, I'm aware) but my guy swore he saw one early one morning, crossing the road near Gibsonton. Long ago though.
  • Vipor_GG Piperpc 2010/12/08 13:44:45
    Vipor_GG
    From the inside of my truck it was a huge pleasure to see them. Panther attacks on people are rare if ever, but I wouldn't recommend getting too close. Like most animals they have a natural fear of us, but if threaten could attack.
  • Piperpc Vipor_GG 2010/12/09 17:41:18
    Piperpc
    I haven't heard of a panther attack on a person in FL, but I have a healthy respect for their teeth and claws!
  • busyboots Vipor_GG 2010/12/07 04:51:43
    busyboots
    +1
    Too small minded for that.
  • jubil8 ... busyboots 2010/12/07 05:10:12 (edited)
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    I have often noticed that people are guilty of the very thing they judge others for.
  • Piperpc busyboots 2010/12/07 18:10:33
    Piperpc
    +1
    How you figure, Mr/Ms busyboots? Small minded because I don't like Palin, or because I have respect for other life, and think killing for "fun" is unethical?
  • jubil8 ... Piperpc 2010/12/07 22:15:58 (edited)
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    Funny... I just raved you above, and now SH won't let me rave this. So I'm replying. Yay to you!

    Ok, the rave "took" this time -- 5 hours later.

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