Does Right-Wing "Stirring up" of Muslims Show a Lack of Respect for Human Life?

Would you allow constitutionally unelected people force you to go to war?

I will not let a mob interfere with someone exercising their Constitutional rights. JMCC you're forgetting that my Republic has been at war with Islam off and on since 1801(Barbary wars), WWI and currently since 1979 (Iran). More importantly al-Qaeda, Hizb ut-Tahrir(Party of Liberation),Hamas and Islamic Jihad have declared war on America. Also a good percentage of Muslims presume that the Secular West is at war with Islam due to this popular hadith; “Prophet Muhammad said; It is expected that the nations will call other nations to share them against you (Muslims) as the eaters call each other to eat from the food in front of them in a large wooden plate A person asked, Will that happen because of our small number on that day? The Prophet said, No. Your number will be great, but you will be rubbish like the rubbish of flood-water. And certainly Allah will remove from the hearts of enemies the fear of you and surely Allah will throw Wahn in your hearts. A person asked, What is Wahn, O Messenger of Allah? The Prophet said, Wahn is to love this world and to hate death.” – Abu Dawud 4284
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Scouts out, sir!

Scouts out ,Trooper!

This is a fun site isn't it?

I have better conversations with my 9 year-old.

Jay Carney, the WH idiot, had to come out and admit this was a planned terrorist attack. The funny part is, soon after Carney told the truth Obama is being interviewed and claims the attack only happen because of a "video." Whoopsie! Lol..Carney and Obama need to keep track of their lies better huh?! I mean, who coordinates their bullsh*t? Somebody please tell the POTUS he can stop lying about why more Americans died on 9/11! That video was released months ago. Obama is only making an ass of himself by claiming that ridiculous video is the reason those Americans were killed on the anniversary of 9/11 and it is disrespectful to the memory of those people.

If the attack on the Libyan mission was the only act of idiocy on behave of the Muslims then you might have been right but it isn't is it?

The attack on the consulate in Libya is was planed at lease a month ago. WASHINGTON — The White House is now calling the assault on the American diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, a “terrorist attack.”

“It is self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack,” the White House press secretary, Jay Carney, told reporters aboard Air Force One on Thursday. “Our embassy was attacked violently and the result was four deaths of American officials.”

Until now, White House officials have not used that language in describing the assault. But with the election less than two months away and President Obama’s record on national security a campaign issue, they have come under criticism from Republican lawmakers who say the administration is playing down a threat for which it was unprepared."[1] "Ayman al-Zawahiri mourned the death of a leading commander from Libya and urged his followers to puncture the “arrogance” of the “evil empire, America”.
This taped missive first appeared on jihadist websites on Monday. On Tuesday, an armed assault claimed the lives of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his colleagues."[2]

1.)http://www.nytimes.com/201...
2.)http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

You may have misread my comment. I was saying that whilst there was something fishy about the attack on the mission in Libya, but that was just one out off hundreds of incidents around the ME.

Didn't misread a thing , it's you who that has no understanding of the Near or Mid-East."Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula[ AQAP] also called for more violent demonstrations against US embassies in the Middle East and Africa, and urged Muslims in the West to attack American interests in their countries of residence.

"The killing of Sheikh Abu Yahya only increased the enthusiasm and determination of the sons of (Libyan independence hero) Omar al-Mukhtar to take revenge upon those who attack our Prophet," AQAP said in a statement, quoted by the US-based monitoring group." http://www.middle-east-online...

The video has been around since June. So, I guess coincendently the rest of the ME waited to voice their outrage towards the video until the exact same day as the obviously planned attack in Libya on the anniversary of 9/11 huh? Wow! What a HUGE coincidence!! Give me a break..lol..

Yes it was around since June. Yet since nothing happened (as Muslims presumably don't search hard YouTube hard enough looking for sleights against their sensibilities), it was translated into Arabic and then posted to all the Arabic news websites...

That happened just before the riots occurred. So you are right - no coincidence, just provocation.

What? A video like that would not need to be searched for and it didn't need to be translated! Do you know how simple a translation of that video is? What? You need scientific equiptment operated by experts to translate that?! lol.. June is not just before the riots occured. Sorry, but you're grasping at straws...

The video was translated and posted to Arabic media websites TWO days before the riots - it had had no viewings to speak of prior to then,

Sorry, but the whole thing smells way too fishy. I mean, Jay Carney comes out admitting it was planned terrorism then Obama is in a televised interview saying the deaths of four Americans IN Libya was incited by the video! He said nothing about terrorism...this was AFTER Carney already said Libya WAS obviously planned terrorism. Either Obama is completely incompetent and clueless OR he was flat out lying, either way it's pathetic.

The attack in Benghazi was almost certainly planned and the film was perfect cover but a coincidence.

The truth is that they would not have needed to wait long for an excuse to protest would they? If it hadn't been this film it would have been the cartoons in France or any number of ridiculous things.

It was the anniversary of 9/11 and this was coordinated! "the film was perfect cover but a coincidence." ROTFL...yeah, okay. You seem like a nice person and the conversation has been interesting and courteous which is rare on SH. I appreciate your civility, but we can just agree to disagree on this.

It's LWNJ causing the problem....

Islam is about as right-wing as you can get.
Ultra conservative.

Not American conservatives.

Are you saying American conservatives aren't conservative?

Duh...I said the left wing nuts you mention are not anything like American Conservatives.

They are not left wing. Muslims are very right-wing. Very conservative.

To the right of our American conservatives.

You are trying to compare apples and organges.

My First Amendment right to Freedom of Speech is non-negotiable! I will not bow to an Islamic mob, unlike President Obama or Secretary of State Clinton! No, apologies ever, period. This what a Muslim mob does to both man and animal.

Those are not muslims. As it punishable within their faith to mock Christ.

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I don't care how it was reported. Christ is a very important prophet in Islam and mockery of any of the prophets is severely punished.

You haven't a clue as to what you're writing. Islam rejects the Christian Trinitarian view that Jesus was God incarnate [that he's the son of God]; That Jesus was ever crucified, then resurrected or that he ever atoned for the sins of mankind. The Quran says that Jesus himself never claimed any of these things, and it furthermore indicates that Jesus will deny having ever claimed divinity at the Last Judgment, and God will vindicate him.[Brill's Encyclopaedia of the Qur'ān ]. So,crucifixion isn't important to Islam. Here's the verse from the Qur'ān; 4.157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- or if your like in Arabic. القرآن، 4،157. قالوا (في التباهي)، "قتلنا المسيح عيسى ابن مريم، والرسول من الله"؛ - ولكن قتلوه لم يكن، ولا صلبوه ولكن ذلك جاء أن يظهر لهم، وأولئك الذين تختلف فيها مليئة الشكوك، مع عدم وجود (بعض) تعرف الحافة، ولكن التخمين فقط لمتابعة، ليؤكد مصداقية من قتلوه لا: -

Muslim outrage is not caused by political views of either conservatives or liberals. Muslims hate the West and its views on free speech, equality of sexes.religious tolerance, etc. I am "right wing" and take my word for it, these animals hate you as much as me.

Actually they don't hate the west - they hate the interference of the West. There is a difference.

I understand what you're saying but I think their definition of "interference" is a lot different from our own.

You might be right, but now the figures are out 600k dead in Iraq, 12000 in collateral dead in Afghanistan, not to count Libya and Sudan plus the cases of extraordinary rendition (which amounts to kidnap and torture) and we start rapidly becoming the bad guys.

Honestly I have no defence to the allegation that the west is "decadent. corrupt and obsessed with money" any more.

A few things:

a) You don't know that the movie was the product of a "right winger."

b) The violence in the Muslim world is NOT about the movie.

c) Instead of blaming this violence on people exercising their freedom of speech, why don't you instead start insisting that the Muslims deal with their anger-management issues?

I completely reject your "let's not do anything to make them angry" stance. Utter cowardice.

"You don't know that the movie was the product of a "right winger." - both the funding, the films make and promoter were all right wingers - sorry.

"The violence in the Muslim world is NOT about the movie." - whilst the act in Benghazi may not have been, the protests throughout the rest of the ME have been.

I do not condone the action of the muslims either, but it would be naive and disingenuous to believe that this film was anything other than deliberate provocation.

Nope, not sure what you are considering 'stirring up' but will assume it is people who are outspoken about the murder of Americans or maybe that 13 min trailer - There is no respect that should be given to those who wish to kill us because we do not bow before their faith.

People who are outraged at the murder of Americans should speak up, but it is an error that Muslims want to kill us because we don;t bow down to their faith, rather because we don't appear to be able to stop interfering in their politics.

I agree that is part of the issue to be sure but it is also heavily faith based and promoted via the Imams (sp) - maybe it is just a tool used but sure the heck looks like promotion of theocracy only. They make a "good" case for hating us because we are infidels not because of our politics. Just my take

Watch it or you'll get a Fatwa!

Hahahaha - Cheers!

I'll keep an eye out.