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Does Obama's Action Friday, Effectively Side-Stepping the Congress and Granting Amnesty to a Million Illegal Aliens, Warrant the Commencement of Impeachment Proceedings Against Obama in the US House of Representatives?

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  • Sgt Major B 2012/06/17 20:56:28
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    Sgt Major B
    +8
    Article I, section 8 also specifically grants Congress the authority to establish laws for naturalization, not the executive branch.

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  • Elaine Magliacane 2012/06/23 14:56:41
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    Elaine Magliacane
    However they WILL NOT do it... why? Because the Senate wouldn't pass it, and he'll be voted OUT in just 139 days... so their amnesty won't last long... and we'll have their names and addresses making it easier to find them and deport them when SANE leadership is in the WH.
  • Roe 2012/06/23 03:32:31
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    Roe
    After Congress voted down The Dream Act, Obama has no business enacting his own made up laws. He thinks this is a Monarchy. He refuses to enact the laws already on the books, ie, immigration, DOMA, etc., but decides what he will enforce, and what he doesn't like, he just throws out. He has so many crimes and treasonous acts, it would be hard to know what to address first!
  • psiEnergos 2012/06/22 21:45:43
    Absolutely NOT: It's not a "high crime or misdemeanor" and impeachment is una...
    psiEnergos
    I hate to say it (especially as a conservative), but we had a better chance of impeaching him when he violated the War Powers Act than this. While he clearly abused his executive power, It's going to be hard to impeach him in light of previous SCOTUS cases that have set precedent. I don't like the action, I just don't see it warranting impeachment in light of previous cases (it has little chance of succeeding). It was wrong and Congress should seek avenues to challenge the EO (if that's even possible), but they should also use it as a wake up call to come up with some real reforms of their own.
  • Tee Quake 2012/06/22 21:30:20
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    Tee Quake
    +1
    Obama had no business granting AMNESTY to over 800,000 illegal aliens, especially after the US Congress has considered that same provision of the so-caledd "Dream Act" and rejected it. What's going to happen when a signficant portion of the beneficiaries decide they'd rather not serve in the US Military, or, agree to serve but are American-hating members of some jihdist group. If Obama is not thrown out office over this clustertf$#@, forget impeahment, this country is done except for its burial.
  • bob h. 2012/06/20 14:43:07
    Absolutely NOT: It's not a "high crime or misdemeanor" and impeachment is una...
    bob h.
    Call in Ken Starr. That worked out well.
  • Call me Mark willya? 2012/06/18 22:47:32
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    Call me Mark willya?
    Okay, I'm not a lawyer, therefore I'm not qualified to say whether or not it's a crime, HOWEVER! I WOULD like for him to undergo a psychiatric evaluation, because he swings from extremes of right to extremes of wrong on a daily freaking basis.
  • Andrew 2012/06/18 05:13:15
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    Andrew
    +1
    You better believe it, it is illegal what he's doing and the sad part is Obama is getting away with it. Looks like the only ones getting this hope and change are illegal dirtbags while we pretty much just sit back and watch them take over.
  • CuresCancer 2012/06/18 03:46:16
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    CuresCancer
    +1
    Sidestepping isn't the word I would use to describe Obama's blatant violation of the Constitution. It is Congress that decides the status of US residents.

    I'd call it (yet another) impeachable offense.
  • prayer warrior 2012/06/18 03:41:42
    Absolutely NOT: It's not a "high crime or misdemeanor" and impeachment is una...
    prayer warrior
    +2
    He issued an order to get the congress off of their duffs so they will take a look at the issue. Then executive orders are legal almost all of the Presidents have used it one time or another.
  • CuresCa... prayer ... 2012/06/18 03:47:50
    CuresCancer
    Obama admitted last year that he couldn't legally do what he did on Friday.
  • prayer ... CuresCa... 2012/06/18 03:53:29
    prayer warrior
    Well then it will not be legal and go into effect so why the uproar ?
  • CuresCa... prayer ... 2012/06/21 04:57:41
    CuresCancer
    It IS going into effect because ICE does what he says. he said it is effective IMMEDIATELY.

    Because (a) our cowardly Congress isn't doing anything about it, (b) there are already enough problems for Congress to deal with, adding this unnecessary fight to contend with doesn't help the nation., (c) lots more Mexicans are sure to come here now and claim they qualify.
  • prayer ... CuresCa... 2012/06/21 17:44:14
    prayer warrior
    You have to be under 30 and if you are not here you don't qualify. You can't come into the country and say I don't need to be deported.
    You are right congress is too busy trying to defaet Obama and that has been their plan all along screw the country let's get the White House back.
  • CuresCa... prayer ... 2012/06/23 17:15:13
    CuresCancer
    Millions of Mexicans will come here because of this illegal decision. They will get false papers or claim that they had to lay low for five years so there is no record of them.

    ICE is following the instructions given to them by Napolitano and she is taking the lead from Obama, the one who issued the illegal order. So what is the likelihood of any laws being enforced legally when Obama and Napolitano are giving illegal orders. How about two possibilities: slim and none.
  • prayer ... CuresCa... 2012/06/23 20:02:54 (edited)
    prayer warrior
    Ok I hear what you are saying but I thought the order was only for those under 30 and there should be some way of verifying. This is suppose to be for those here and if you are not in this country that is too bad.

    I don't have an answer because I don't know the answer to your question. But if they say this country has 800,000 illegals that are eligable then that should be all that can apply for this whatever you want to call it.
  • Boetica 2012/06/18 03:34:34
    ABSOLUTELY: "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" pursuant to Article 1 of the Const...
    Boetica
    +1
    He is "ruling" by decree. He is not a 'natural born citizen' as required by the Constitution which he swore to uphold. Get rid of him. He is incompetent as well.
  • wildcat 2012/06/18 03:11:32
    Absolutely NOT: It's not a "high crime or misdemeanor" and impeachment is una...
    wildcat
    +3
    Oh Hell No, It was a wise and just decision.
  • sjalan 2012/06/18 02:48:34
    Absolutely NOT: It's not a "high crime or misdemeanor" and impeachment is una...
    sjalan
    +3
    It is a Executive Order that suspends deportations until such time as Congress addresses the issue of immigration in a constructive and meaningful way which will not unjustly impact the children that have been either born here or were brought here by their parents when they were too young to live on their own.
  • Herb sjalan 2012/06/18 02:52:31 (edited)
    Herb
    +3
    he cannot right a law with pen that goes againt imigration laws on the books and laws other congress have passed.
    Firebrand Republican Rep. Steve King announced his intention Friday to file a lawsuit against President Barack Obama, calling unconstitutional the administration's plan to stop deporting some young, illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. as children.

    "This is no longer a debate about immigration policy. The debate is now about the Constitution and the Rule of Law," the Iowa congressman said in a statement. "I am preparing to bring suit against the President and ask for a court to enjoin him from implementing his unconstitutional and unlawful policy."

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    Obama's plan would apply to people under age 30 who entered the country before the age of 16, pose no criminal or security threat, and were successful students or served in the military. They can apply for a two-year deferral from deportation and if accepted would then have the possibility of working legally, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday.

    The president said the policy "is not amnesty" nor "immunity" or "a path to citizenship."

    But King and other Repub...

    he cannot right a law with pen that goes againt imigration laws on the books and laws other congress have passed.
    Firebrand Republican Rep. Steve King announced his intention Friday to file a lawsuit against President Barack Obama, calling unconstitutional the administration's plan to stop deporting some young, illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. as children.

    "This is no longer a debate about immigration policy. The debate is now about the Constitution and the Rule of Law," the Iowa congressman said in a statement. "I am preparing to bring suit against the President and ask for a court to enjoin him from implementing his unconstitutional and unlawful policy."

    – Follow the Ticker on Twitter: @PoliticalTicker

    – Check out the CNN Electoral Map and Calculator and game out your own strategy for November.

    Obama's plan would apply to people under age 30 who entered the country before the age of 16, pose no criminal or security threat, and were successful students or served in the military. They can apply for a two-year deferral from deportation and if accepted would then have the possibility of working legally, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday.

    The president said the policy "is not amnesty" nor "immunity" or "a path to citizenship."

    But King and other Republicans described it as a form of amnesty.

    "Americans should be outraged that President Obama is planning to usurp the Constitutional authority of the United States Congress and grant amnesty by edict to 1 million illegal aliens," he said in an earlier statement. "There is no ambiguity in Congress about whether the DREAM Act's amnesty program should be the law of the land. It has been rejected by Congress, and yet President Obama has decided that he will move forward with it anyway. President Obama, an ex constitutional law professor, whose favorite word is audacity, is prepared to violate the principles of Constitutional Law that he taught."
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  • sjalan Herb 2012/06/18 06:59:33
    sjalan
    +1
    I guess you don't understand exactly what an Executive Order is NOR do you care.
  • Herb sjalan 2012/06/18 21:43:05
    Herb
    i do and some of his are illegal they can be set like law but congress can over dub it.
  • sjalan Herb 2012/06/19 02:50:30
    sjalan
    +1
    As I said, ONLY TWO EO's have ever been determined to be overruled -- EVER.(BOTH were SCOTUS) Congress CAN'T over dub it since it is outside of their purview to invade the Executive Branch EO and THAT was determine by SCOTUS also.
  • Herb sjalan 2012/06/19 17:33:03
    Herb
    but they can make a law against it lol wait obama will not win the election congress and senate will be in control a law will make it null aand void
    but a law suit can and scotus can and its about to got o law suit home many things has obama lost so far under the supreme court and about to loose again lol. what hes doing is illegal by bypassing federal laws on the books he even said he had no power to do this in 2011 only congress does want me to find the quote for you.
  • sjalan Herb 2012/06/20 02:11:23
    sjalan
    LOL> An Executive Order is only removable by the PRESIDENT. Congress cannot override a Presidential EO. You don't get it.

    BUT, A future President can modify EO's. Not that Romney is going to win. He has already been caught with his pants down on this subject and he had NO ANSWERS for the press or in his interview with Bob Scheiffer.

  • Herb sjalan 2012/06/20 02:40:13 (edited)
    Herb
    no but a law suit and supreme court can strike it down, you dont get it lol. not that we hate immigrants it illegals that came here not by our laws, legally.
    go to iran cross thier borders, oh wait two did and were arested as spies we need to shut the border completly down with the with the military on it and stop this crap. shoot ask question later try them as spies.

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  • sjalan Herb 2012/06/20 03:04:14
    sjalan
    ONLY if it is found to be unconstitutional. That is the ONLY thing SCOTUS can act upon.

    The actions taken are not outside the realm of the President to delay and or modify how the justice dept carries out a law congress passed or should I say FAILED TO PASS.

    I would suggest you check out the latest release, your's is a couple of weeks old and reflect information from late May.

    http://www.realclearpolitics....
  • Herb sjalan 2012/06/20 03:20:12
    Herb
    we will see there is going to be law suits we will see bet it gets struck down like obama care lol.
  • sjalan Herb 2012/06/20 03:43:20
    sjalan
    When the core of the Affordable Health Care Act was written it was written around numerous decision by the SCOTUS on the Interstate Commerce Act.
  • Herb sjalan 2012/06/20 17:34:32
    Herb
    watch boys it will get stuck down i will laugh when i right and there is no seperation clause built into the law. if they strike the individual manadate it all has to go watch and see. you tell me in the commerce act it gives the governement this right. if they control this they can control the food you eat etc that was brought up to the court thry wont take that chance and strike it down watch i have been right so far.
  • bob h. Herb 2012/06/20 14:46:15
    bob h.
    Another victim of home schooling.
  • Herb bob h. 2012/06/20 17:33:04
    Herb
    watch boys it will get stuck down i will laugh when i right and there is no seperation clause built into the law. if they strike the individual manadate it all has to go watch and see. i have been right so far bob lol. even my election calls ive been on the money. told that govenor was going to beat the unions and he has.
  • sjalan bob h. 2012/06/21 02:36:53
    sjalan
    Yep, Romney sure is.
  • Boetica sjalan 2012/06/18 03:37:00
    Boetica
    They have done so. The 'DREAM Act' failed, even when the Democrats controlled both houses. You cannot use executive orders to circumvent the responsibilities of the Congress.
  • CuresCa... sjalan 2012/06/18 03:50:12 (edited)
    CuresCancer
    In addition to what Herb said, Obama's action was not an Executive Order. Executive orders cannot go into effect immediately. They require a period of time for comment from the public. But Obama declared his ruling would go into effect immediately.
  • sjalan CuresCa... 2012/06/18 07:06:45
    sjalan
    You really don't know what you're talking about.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    A Presidential Executive Order goes into effect the instant the President signs it. Further there are only TWO which have been overturned since the inception of the country and the Presidential use of Executive Orders.

    Suggest you do a little bit of study before you make false claims on Sodahead.
  • flaca BN-0 2012/06/18 02:28:42
    Absolutely NOT: It's not a "high crime or misdemeanor" and impeachment is una...
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    Was it impeachable when Reagan did an amnesty?
  • Herb flaca BN-0 2012/06/18 02:53:27 (edited)
    Herb
    he did with congress approval obamas not.

    Firebrand Republican Rep. Steve King announced his intention Friday to file a lawsuit against President Barack Obama, calling unconstitutional the administration's plan to stop deporting some young, illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. as children.

    "This is no longer a debate about immigration policy. The debate is now about the Constitution and the Rule of Law," the Iowa congressman said in a statement. "I am preparing to bring suit against the President and ask for a court to enjoin him from implementing his unconstitutional and unlawful policy."

    – Follow the Ticker on Twitter: @PoliticalTicker

    – Check out the CNN Electoral Map and Calculator and game out your own strategy for November.

    Obama's plan would apply to people under age 30 who entered the country before the age of 16, pose no criminal or security threat, and were successful students or served in the military. They can apply for a two-year deferral from deportation and if accepted would then have the possibility of working legally, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday.

    The president said the policy "is not amnesty" nor "immunity" or "a path to citizenship."

    But King and other Republicans described it as a form of amnesty.

    "Americans should be outraged ...
    he did with congress approval obamas not.

    Firebrand Republican Rep. Steve King announced his intention Friday to file a lawsuit against President Barack Obama, calling unconstitutional the administration's plan to stop deporting some young, illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. as children.

    "This is no longer a debate about immigration policy. The debate is now about the Constitution and the Rule of Law," the Iowa congressman said in a statement. "I am preparing to bring suit against the President and ask for a court to enjoin him from implementing his unconstitutional and unlawful policy."

    – Follow the Ticker on Twitter: @PoliticalTicker

    – Check out the CNN Electoral Map and Calculator and game out your own strategy for November.

    Obama's plan would apply to people under age 30 who entered the country before the age of 16, pose no criminal or security threat, and were successful students or served in the military. They can apply for a two-year deferral from deportation and if accepted would then have the possibility of working legally, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday.

    The president said the policy "is not amnesty" nor "immunity" or "a path to citizenship."

    But King and other Republicans described it as a form of amnesty.

    "Americans should be outraged that President Obama is planning to usurp the Constitutional authority of the United States Congress and grant amnesty by edict to 1 million illegal aliens," he said in an earlier statement. "There is no ambiguity in Congress about whether the DREAM Act's amnesty program should be the law of the land. It has been rejected by Congress, and yet President Obama has decided that he will move forward with it anyway. President Obama, an ex constitutional law professor, whose favorite word is audacity, is prepared to violate the principles of Constitutional Law that he taught."
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  • flaca BN-0 Herb 2012/06/18 03:52:02
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    so you're saying then that it was OK with congress on dream acts before, but not now?
    Why is that?
  • Herb flaca BN-0 2012/06/18 21:44:27
    Herb
    casue it didnt work they keep coming to say no and snd them home.
  • Boetica flaca BN-0 2012/06/18 03:39:10
    Boetica
    The Congress was involved in that, and there was an enormous amount of fraud by people who supposedly "share our values". Are you an alien who will benefit from this lawless act? Why don't you get your facts together comrade?

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