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☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/06/26 20:36:37
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I was just watching Obama latest ad talking about Romney’s
out sourcing. Does he have room to talk
when his Jobs Czar Jeff Immelt shipped thousands of jobs to China? Including the whole divisions of healthcare and medical instruments.

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  • Red Branch 2012/07/03 22:30:51
    No, Leave a comment
    Red Branch
    +1
    Obama always has room to talk, though it is usually out of both sides of his mouth and out of his ass at the same time. The ultimate in triangulation.
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  • ☆stillt... Red Branch 2012/07/03 22:39:15
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    LOMA, but what you have said is true.
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  • mary E 2012/06/28 05:38:22
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    mary E
    +1
    No, he doesn't, but that will not matter to his followers (including much of the press) for they will approve anything he does.

    We may feel it necessary to vote for Romney and some other politicians we don't fully agree with, but we don't whitewash or adulate them.
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  • Ken 2012/06/27 15:29:26
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    Ken
    +2
    Barack Obama, like most lefties, has no understanding of the free-market system. Not only does GE's Immelt outsource jobs, Obama's DOE has made loans to companies which manufacture overseas, e.g. the Fisker "Karma" which is built in Denmark.
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  • ☆stillt... Ken 2012/06/27 15:47:40 (edited)
    ☆stillthe12c☆
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    He also put money into a battery company that is located in Europe. Now some of the research in the battery company is also done here, so I hear.
    Thank You!!
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  • Mike 2012/06/27 12:49:04
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    Mike
    +2
    He's a lying socialist liberal so he's allowed to say whatever he wants
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  • LarryFine 2012/06/27 12:06:32
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    LarryFine
    +2
    Note to Obama:

    Step 1: Create jobs
    Step 2: Talk about outsourcing...
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  • jmc07806-PWCM-JLA 2012/06/27 11:37:19
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    jmc07806-PWCM-JLA
    +3
    He is a butt hole.
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  • Chris - The Rowdy One! #187 2012/06/27 11:31:51
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    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    +3
    He is a Democrat....he can say and do what he wants without anyone calling him on it.
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  • USAF Vet 2012/06/27 08:37:24
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    USAF Vet
    +3
    If Obama ISN’T outsourcing jobs, why does the unemployment rate stay at a constant 8% or higher? I know, it's Bush's fault, yada, yada, yada. Any knowledgeable President (Dem or Rep) could have lowered the unemployment rate by at least 1% after almost four years in office, without blaming his predecessor!
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  • Red Branch USAF Vet 2012/07/03 22:33:22
    Red Branch
    Illegals are coming in full speed ahead and he is granting tons of work visas in addition to his outsourcing.
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  • gregaj7 2012/06/27 05:34:08
    Undecided
    gregaj7
    +2
    Does it matter?
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  • ☆stillt... gregaj7 2012/06/27 06:05:43
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    It shows his hypocrisy.
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  • gregaj7 ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 06:56:44
    gregaj7
    +1
    Yeah, and?
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  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/06/27 03:08:20
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    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +2
    He can talk all he wants! Trouble is telling everyone that more federal dollars being dolled to the States & Local Governments to hire Police, Teachers & Firefighters is not going to bring back the Manufacturing Jobs!

    Neither will a poorly thought out Health Care Plan that does nothing to actually imporove care and bring it inline with what the nations we compete with spend on theirs in relation to total GDP.
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  • Idiot repubs 2012/06/27 02:59:42
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    Idiot repubs
    +3
    Robme only stole money.
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  • *Mahoga... Idiot r... 2012/06/27 03:04:29
    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
    +1
    LOL!!! I had to rave you for the "Robme" name lol.
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  • USAF Vet Idiot r... 2012/06/27 08:24:39
    USAF Vet
    +3
    Hey, $hithead, how did 'Robme' rob you? He worked for a PRIVATE CAPITAL investment firm, used PRIVATE CAPITAL to either make money or stop the hemmorage of money..something you can't understand. Obummer uses PUBLIC MONEY propping up failed, after failed industries. Where you gonna put you money (if you have any)?
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  • Idiot r... USAF Vet 2012/06/27 11:34:39 (edited)
    Idiot repubs
    GS Technologies

    Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they'd been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month.

    What's more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company's underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.
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  • *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T 2012/06/27 02:58:10
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    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
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    He has the right to talk, but the words that come out of his mouth is hypocrisy. Granted that jobs were being outsourced before he came into office, but he failed to change that damage.

    On the flip side Romney doesn't appear to be any different, but only time will tell.
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  • ☆stillt... *Mahoga... 2012/06/27 03:03:45
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +3
    Romney is different, but is he up to the job and who is he going to support, the people or the special interest,
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  • *Mahoga... ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 03:08:06
    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
    +2
    Sorry to break it to you S, but he has special interest written all over him. This is why this election will be difficult. I don't like being force feed with my choices; it's as if I really had no say so on who the candidate would be.
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  • ☆stillt... *Mahoga... 2012/06/27 03:19:10
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +3
    I was really hoping that Huckabee would run as I know that he is a true conservative. I hate having to choose between the lesser of what I think is two evils Huckabee would not support The Patriot Act nor NDAA. I wrote the Romney camp and asked for him to drop his support of these 2 infraction of the Constitution. 3 weeks and not a word.
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  • *Mahoga... ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 03:22:12
    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
    +2
    Romney blew off a kid dying who wanted to know about medical marijuana and the same to a guy in a wheel chair. Same old type of self serving politician.
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  • ☆stillt... *Mahoga... 2012/06/27 03:31:56
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    I heard something about the guy in the wheelchair. I know that it is difficult to answer everybody, but sometimes it is worth the effort to take care of these people first and blow someone else off.
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  • *Mahoga... ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 03:35:42
    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
    +2
    Exactly; you would think that he would be able to comprehend that. Politicians and the DEA really don't care how much people suffer and how important marijuana is.

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  • ☆stillt... *Mahoga... 2012/06/27 03:53:27
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    Medical Marijuana does have some good uses. It would be much better if they handed out pills and liquid form than having people smoke it. I do wish they would do something.
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  • Daniel 2012/06/27 02:55:14 (edited)
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    Daniel
    +1
    OBAMA IS VERY MUCH LIKE HITLER ! HITLER STOLE THE ELECTION IN 35 AND OBAMA WILL DO IT IN 2012
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  • ☆stillt... Daniel 2012/06/27 03:01:50
    ☆stillthe12c☆
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    From what I have heard Obama has fell out of favor with the big boys and they are talking about putting Romney in office. We will find out about their final decision very soon.
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  • *Mahoga... ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 03:05:53
    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
    +1
    That's the problem, when are the American people actually going to choose two candidates not hand picked for them?
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  • Daniel ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 03:07:09
    Daniel
    +1
    ITS TOUGH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TRUTH IS ANYMORE ! IT SEEMS UP IS REALLY DOWN, GOOD IS REALLY BAD AND A STEP FATHER IS ARRESTED FOR THROWING FRIES AT HIS SCREAMING STEP DAUGHTER. HE IS CHARGE WITH A FELONY ! OMG! TELL ME WHERE THAT IS A PROPER RESPONSE TO A PARENT SCOLDING THEIR KID ! A FRIGGING FENONY! SOMETHING IS WRONG , LIKE UP IS REALLY DOWN... DON'T YA AGREE
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  • exhon2009 2012/06/26 21:11:44
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    exhon2009
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    I worked for a division of a fortune 50 company in finance. We relocated an operation to San Diego to be near our Mexican assembly plant. We ended up having to layoff around 400 employees. the alternative was to shut down the operation entirely, in which case we would have layed off an additional 250 people. Additionally, approximately 200 U.S. subcontractor jobs depended on our business. Sometimes you have to outsource to remain competitive. The low value added jobs were outsourced while the high value jobs in engineering, administration and logistics were saved.
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  • ☆stillt... exhon2009 2012/06/26 21:32:39
    ☆stillthe12c☆
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    The Company that I worked for took a different approach. Now we did out source our molding department. But we sent it to an operation that was in another state that di not have the taxes and regulation that Calif has. Nor for the 450 employees that we had left in the operation we had to make cuts there as well. We kept up the same production goals and cut 200 people by designing automated assembly machines. Even this operation we relocate to another state. Management got tired of dealing with the City of Irvine and California.
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  • exhon2009 ☆stillt... 2012/06/26 22:02:57 (edited)
    exhon2009
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    San Diego seemed equally hostile to manufacturing. I don't get it. The jobs we saved were all pretty good paying jobs. Not everyone can work at Sea World. The jobs outsourced were assembly jobs that went to Mexico. They were still company employees, just not U.S.. Again, the alternative was to call it a total loss, shut it down and write off all of the tooling and equipment.
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  • ☆stillt... exhon2009 2012/06/26 22:22:57
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    They did not have the ability to automate? Simple robots are easy to design. We were able to eliminate a lot of people and saving many people jobs by doing this. I was one of the designers that had that goal. It did take us a couple of years to do it.
    there was only 2 of us doing the design work. I only did it part time as I was also the process engineer and Tool Room Supervisor.
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  • exhon2009 ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 01:14:17
    exhon2009
    +2
    Hopefully some of the people affected learned how to program and, or service the robots. That would be a much better paying job.
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  • ☆stillt... exhon2009 2012/06/27 01:40:37
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    We used simple Allen-Bradley controls which are very easy to learn how to program. I think that many of them could have learned how to program them. We had rs232 ports and a lap top. Everyone in maintenance new how to program them and so did some of the people that did the setups. A program for each machine was on the network. File name match the machine number.
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  • littleb... ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 03:18:40
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    I sell CNC Machine Tools in SoCal. It has become more and more difficult for my customers to find competent programmers and job set-up people!

    Other than a company doing it yourself by simplifying things there really are no viable training programs for this. The Stimulus in 09 had Nancy Pelosi porkup $175 Million for Family Planning in a year they got an increase anyway. That money would if utilized well could be yielding results now as manufacturing has in spite of many things slowly been on the rise.
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  • ☆stillt... littleb... 2012/06/27 03:27:20
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I know about the problem. We had CNC equipment and had the same problem. The schools no longer even have shop classes. So you can not even find people that know the basics. I had a worse time trying to find Tool Makers. I needed people that could work on their own as I was designing the tools working as the process Engineer and trying to Supervise the Tool Makers at the same time. To go along with that for over a year I was also trying to Supervise the molding Department.
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  • littleb... ☆stillt... 2012/06/27 03:32:12
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    There you go. It's more important now to have social workers!
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